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Don Vito
06-06-2007, 09:54 AM
Thought this deserves its own thread, Trent Green addition looks to have pushed him out. Not to sure if any other team will take a chance on him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2894921

AlexDown
06-06-2007, 09:59 AM
I posted this in the other thread.

Considering most teams that passed up on BQ in the draft and how there didn't seem like that much of a need for QB this time of the year, I don't see him gettingg much value if any at all.

Jughead10
06-06-2007, 09:59 AM
Its the right move. Cameron's system doesn't fit Culpepper. He also probably doesn't want to hinder Beck's development by having Culpepper stealing reps from him. Its just easier to name Green your starter for this year and let Beck develop as his backup for now.

TheMadLionsFan
06-06-2007, 10:00 AM
interesting developments......they probably won't get more than a fifth rounder for him....

PackerMang
06-06-2007, 10:08 AM
Which team needs a vet QB?

Acreboy
06-06-2007, 10:08 AM
Someone needs a good backup. Which is what Culpepper is without Moss, a good backup.

TheMadLionsFan
06-06-2007, 10:14 AM
Someone needs a good backup. Which is what Culpepper is without Moss, a good backup.


Atlanta comes to mind...

Acreboy
06-06-2007, 10:19 AM
Atlanta comes to mind...it's all about the system too. I think Petrino is going to implement a sort of WCO which I don't think Culpepper is capable of running.

Jughead10
06-06-2007, 10:20 AM
How about the Raiders. Imagine him and Russell on the same team.

BX
06-06-2007, 10:33 AM
How about the Raiders. Imagine him and Russell on the same team.

That's ridiculous. How is that a big deal? They won't ever be on the field at once.

Scout49
06-06-2007, 10:34 AM
I think he goes back to Minnesota or Kansas City and maybe Jacksonville.

Jughead10
06-06-2007, 10:35 AM
That's ridiculous. How is that a big deal? They won't ever be on the field at once.

Doesn't matter. Russell isn't ready to start. And Culpepper is better than anythign else the Raiders have. Hell, if Russell isn't just completely lazy he might be able to learn something from a similar QB in Culpepper.

Chucky
06-06-2007, 10:35 AM
We all know Gruden will be interested in him.

NIN1984
06-06-2007, 10:36 AM
Raiders have McCown to start the season and when Russell is ready he will play, Raiders have no place for Culpepper.

BX
06-06-2007, 10:37 AM
Is Culpepper even capable of playing? I thought his knee was basically made out of silly putty now.

Addict
06-06-2007, 10:37 AM
Raiders have McCown to start the season and when Russell is ready he will play, Raiders have no place for Culpepper.

Well... McCown ain't all that great, so maybe if they can get Culpepper cheap, and Culpepper-Moss used to be a solid combo.

BX
06-06-2007, 10:38 AM
Moss ain't there no mo'

Addict
06-06-2007, 10:42 AM
Moss ain't there no mo'

<a lot of swearing and verbal ugliness>

I forgot about that.

DMWSackMachine
06-06-2007, 10:53 AM
I think Carolina should take a shot at getting him. He would be dynamite with Steve Smith if he ever got right again, and Delhomme is going to be on a very short leash this year after that stink fest that he threw out last season. As far as I know, they don't have a young developmental guy on the team, either. It makes sense to me.

Addict
06-06-2007, 10:54 AM
I think Carolina should take a shot at getting him. He would be dynamite with Steve Smith if he ever got right again, and Delhomme is going to be on a very short leash this year after that stink fest that he threw out last season. As far as I know, they don't have a young developmental guy on the team, either. It makes sense to me.

they already got Carr.

GiantRutgersFan
06-06-2007, 11:26 AM
Minnesota is probably the best fit for him. Maybe the Jaguars?

rchrd
06-06-2007, 11:29 AM
Things didnt end well with Childress I doubt either of them will be able to put that behind them.

bsaza2358
06-06-2007, 11:42 AM
What team could really use a star QB who is still only about 30, used to have a big time arm, but got by on his athleticism? Culpepper has a lot of past results, and the team has to be okay with taking risks on guys for the right price. Possible destinations include: Houston, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Baltimore, Carolina, and Chicago. Thinking about the rest of the league, I can't say for sure that other don't see many teams chomping at the bit to get him in a trade, especially with his contract. I foresee teams trying to sign him once he's released by Miami. I don't think any team will want him so badly that they will trade a draft pick for him.

The Unseen
06-06-2007, 11:42 AM
It's pretty hard to think of any team that would take him when you go through them.

Vikes99ej
06-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Yeah, take the Vikings out of the question. The next QB that we're going to get wears number 12 on Louisville.

Flyboy
06-06-2007, 11:58 AM
Doesn't matter. Russell isn't ready to start. And Culpepper is better than anythign else the Raiders have. Hell, if Russell isn't just completely lazy he might be able to learn something from a similar QB in Culpepper.

Huh? I don't get the notion that Russell is a lazy QB at all.

Acreboy
06-06-2007, 12:00 PM
Huh? I don't get the notion that Russell is a lazy QB at all.Please Flyboy, let ignorance wonder around. Just let this one go.

Everyone and their mom knows Russell isn't lazy. Just let it go.

Jay
06-06-2007, 12:01 PM
I don't see him getting traded like the Dolphins seem to want to do, so a release is most likely. If that happens, I wouldn't be shocked to see Kansas City take a look. I mean, Damon Huard was good, but Culpepper would give them the insurance Brodie Croyle doesn't really give right now. Or maybe he doesn't. He essentially just switches places with Green this way, though...

iloxygenil
06-06-2007, 12:48 PM
it's all about the system too. I think Petrino is going to implement a sort of WCO which I don't think Culpepper is capable of running.

Haha...a sort of WCO is what we just completely got rid of. Petrino's system doesn't fall under that. You'll see when you see his formations that it's not WCO. But lets not even consider that. I don't think we can afford to have Harrington here and Culpepper, why would we bring Miami's drama to ATL? Sure, I'd love to have 3 QBs on the roster with the names of Vick, Culpepper, and Harrington. I don't think we could afford it though. Plus I'm not sure it's worth it.

Iamcanadian
06-06-2007, 12:56 PM
Is Culpepper even capable of playing? I thought his knee was basically made out of silly putty now.

It is and his career is probably over. That's why Saban left town.

CC.SD
06-06-2007, 02:02 PM
He might be a good fit for the Bears if Rexy is allowed to move on after this season. Maybe while they groom a rookie. He'd work for their vertical game. It just depends on if they give Rex a new contract.

draftguru151
06-06-2007, 02:22 PM
It is and his career is probably over. That's why Saban left town.

He's been cleared to play again for the upcoming training camp, seems to be somewhat ok to me.

Vikes99ej
06-06-2007, 02:41 PM
This entire situation just makes me chuckle.

Basileus777
06-06-2007, 03:07 PM
He's been cleared to play again for the upcoming training camp, seems to be somewhat ok to me.

Has he been cleared for contact? Playing in non-contact drills is completely different than being ready to play in a game. Daunte participated in training camp last year and he wasn't healthy.

HawkeyeFan
06-06-2007, 03:07 PM
I'm sure the Rams will take a look at him, or possibly even sign him.

GiantRutgersFan
06-06-2007, 03:16 PM
yea....

Culpeppers career has been very strange. '


2000- 33 TDs 16 INTs, 98 QB rating

2001- 14 TDs 13 INTs, 83 QB rating

2002- 18 TDs 25 INTs, 75 QB rating

2003- 25 TD, 11 INTs, 96 QB rating

2004- 39 TDs, 11 INTs, 110 QB rating

2005- 5 TDs, 12 INTs, injured this year after 7 games


Really, really inconsistent. He also had a huge fumbling problem. seems like he didnt have the mental aspect of it. Cause he had a couple of amazing seasons. Shame he couldnt really get it together

Don Vito
06-06-2007, 03:19 PM
He really is one of the most talented QBs in recent memory, and those years you see him put up good stats were the years he was healthy with a good supporting cast. It really is a shame the way his career has gone to **** in the last 2 years, I was always a Culpepper fan. I hope he catches on with a team and gets another chance, don't know how likely that is though.

GiantRutgersFan
06-06-2007, 03:23 PM
He really is one of the most talented QBs in recent memory, and those years you see him put up good stats were the years he was healthy with a good supporting cast. It really is a shame the way his career has gone to **** in the last 2 years, I was always a Culpepper fan. I hope he catches on with a team and gets another chance, don't know how likely that is though.

He was healthy and had a good team in 2001 and 2002 and he was mediocre (through 11 games in 2001). He was healthy (but not a great cast) in 2005 as well for those 7 games.


but yea, he definitly had the talent. the stats dont indicate it, but the fumbles this guy had were pretty crazy. he had 23 fumbles in 2002. lol.

Scotty D
06-06-2007, 04:47 PM
Its to bad he won't go to Minnesota because its the only team where he could probably start. If and Randy and him are on good terms NE makes a lot of sense. Does San Diego have a vet on the roster? All I know of is Charlie Whitehurst.

Modano
06-06-2007, 05:04 PM
His 2004 season was simply amazing...

Don Vito
06-06-2007, 05:18 PM
His 2004 season was simply amazing...

Yea the only thing was it was overshadowed by Manning's amazing season. I would love to see Culpepper get it together and be able to play again, he is (was) so much fun to watch.

Paranoidmoonduck
06-06-2007, 05:38 PM
If I were Atlanta I'd take a long and hard look at Culpepper, but that's just me.

Geo
06-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Things didnt end well with Childress I doubt either of them will be able to put that behind them.
I doubt Childress is in any rush to get a guy who acted like a complete and utter turd in his experience with him, nevermind when he already has a promising young quarterback in T-Jack.

Yeah, take the Vikings out of the question. The next QB that we're going to get wears number 12 on Louisville.
The Vikes should get Jim Sorgi imo. He would kill in Minny.

princefielder28
06-06-2007, 06:07 PM
Yeah, take the Vikings out of the question. The next QB that we're going to get wears number 12 on Louisville.

Brohm is the bomb!

Crazy_Chris
06-06-2007, 06:22 PM
Its sad to see how far C-pep has fallen there was a time not that long ago that he was one of the top 3 QB's in the league. Now his careeer could very well be over. I hope some team takes a chance on him and i hope he can have a spectacular comeback. I just don't see too many teams even thinking about bringing him in, Kansas City seems to make sense though

Stash
06-06-2007, 09:27 PM
I saw a quote on ESPN a little while ago where Culpepper said he didn't want to be traded because he had already been through a similar scenario in Minnesota. I don't know if that means he wants to be released or if he wants to stay and compete; but I would assume it is the first one.

IMO his best suitor would be ATL (if Vick gets in trouble) because they would definitely need a QB and they could probably sign Culpepper dirt cheap.

draftguru151
06-06-2007, 09:32 PM
I saw a quote on ESPN a little while ago where Culpepper said he didn't want to be traded because he had already been through a similar scenario in Minnesota. I don't know if that means he wants to be released or if he wants to stay and compete; but I would assume it is the first one.

IMO his best suitor would be ATL (if Vick gets in trouble) because they would definitely need a QB and they could probably sign Culpepper dirt cheap.

He's already said he wants to stay and compete for the job, not really up to him though.

bored of education
06-06-2007, 10:24 PM
Culpepper=LIONS!!

keylime_5
06-06-2007, 10:32 PM
Atlanta or St.Louis (linehan ties) are the only 2 possilbilities I can see. Maybe Oakland. Maybe he'll not get signed until midseason when someone's starter gets hurt.

Moses
06-06-2007, 10:34 PM
It's crazy how fast his career went into a down spiral after Randy Moss left him.

http://www.10000takes.com/MossCulpeper.jpg

Vikes99ej
06-06-2007, 10:38 PM
Culpepper would be helping our team out if he hadn't opened up his mouth and started crying like a baby. Even though Childress does have that effect on people.

jkb528
06-06-2007, 11:47 PM
I'd love to see the numbers he could put up in Martz's system in Detroit if he was completely healthy. With all those Moss/Calvin Johnson comparisons, it'd be very interesting.

draftguru151
06-07-2007, 12:08 AM
3 teams interested, not named, but Minnesota, Atlanta, and Chicago aren't interested.

senormysterioso
06-07-2007, 12:21 AM
I'll bet it's random teams nobody thinks needs a quarterback like Washington, New England, and Dallas

yodabear
06-07-2007, 12:53 AM
3 teams interested, not named, but Minnesota, Atlanta, and Chicago aren't interested.

Rams fans, don't yell at me cuz I thought they may have made a move for Pepp last year, which I was wrong, and thank god I was, but I think we could be one of these three teams. Due to the strong ties with Linehan.

eacantdraft
06-07-2007, 07:17 AM
Miami sure has wasted many 2nd round draft picks on other team's reject QB's over the years. AJ Feely, Dante Culpepper. And I'm not high on John Beck either.

bsaza2358
06-07-2007, 09:06 AM
Miami has wasted a lot of draft picks on a lot of different positions. QB is just the tip of the iceberg. They have done some things well, but their constant struggles to repair that OLine have been terrible.

draftguru151
06-07-2007, 09:11 AM
Miami sure has wasted many 2nd round draft picks on other team's reject QB's over the years. AJ Feely, Dante Culpepper. And I'm not high on John Beck either.

Well I feel 100 times better about Beck now. Also neither of those guys were rejects. Joey Harrington was a reject. Trent Green even. Feely was a back up that played well and got traded, happens a decent amount, just didn't work out because we don't run a WCO, and Culpepper was a semi reject just because of the injury, but was still ridiculously talented.

The funny thing is all 3 of those moves were by 3 different people, Spielman, Saban, and Mueller/Cameron.

brat316
06-07-2007, 09:21 AM
Where is Pepper headed out, maybe Oakland, to die off. Most people's careers go downhill when they join the Blackhole. Except Burgess, Maybe Pepper can help Russell, 5th or 6th round pick and taking a pay cut from 5.5 million doesnt sound bad for AL Davis

Moses
06-07-2007, 10:13 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10217364

Oh man. They're choosing Green Bay as the most likely destination for Culpepper.

Don Vito
06-07-2007, 11:26 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10217364

Oh man. They're choosing Green Bay as the most likely destination for Culpepper.

I guess it kinds of make sense, especially if they don't think Rodgers is ready yet if something happens to Favre.

Sveen
06-08-2007, 03:00 AM
I can see him ending up in Jacksonville or Green Bay.

Dam8610
06-08-2007, 03:39 AM
I guess it kinds of make sense, especially if they don't think Rodgers is ready yet if something happens to Favre.

If Rodgers isn't ready yet, he never will be.

Sveen
06-08-2007, 05:42 AM
True. He might end up as a career backup.

brat316
06-08-2007, 09:17 AM
looks that way right now, Oakland is where he needs to go, i dont really see him starting anywhere but Oakland, or detorit. Unless Jacksonville, doesnt like Byron.

ATL might be a place, Vick is in trouble, but they say the feds are taking their time with the case.

Mr. Stiller
06-08-2007, 09:28 AM
If Rodgers isn't ready yet, he never will be.

I don't think they believe in Rodgers to ever hand the Packers over to him.

Chief49er
06-08-2007, 10:17 AM
Thought this deserves its own thread, Trent Green addition looks to have pushed him out. Not to sure if any other team will take a chance on him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2894921

Atlanta here he comes!

Flyboy
06-08-2007, 10:42 AM
I don't think they believe in Rodgers to ever hand the Packers over to him.

Yeah, everything that the team has done after they drafted seems to suggest this.

Splat
06-08-2007, 10:59 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.html

The Dolphins' final mini camp of the spring opened Friday morning with five quarterbacks on the field, including 2007 second-round pick John Beck, the recently traded for Trent Green and the not-traded-or-released-yet Daunte Culpepper.

Culpepper this week began campaigning for his release after being told the Dolphins planned to trade him elsewhere.

Because he's under contract, on the roster and medically cleared to practice, the Dolphins must let him participate in mini camp and risk him suffering an injury, thus staying on the Dolphins payroll.

While the team went through early practice stretching, Culpepper remained on the sideline doing agility drills.

For the morning practice, helmets were worn but no pads.

Scar
06-08-2007, 11:23 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10217364

Oh man. They're choosing Green Bay as the most likely destination for Culpepper.

LOL at the commentary on the Jets as a potential landing spot.


3. New York Jets -- Chad Pennington will be 31 by training camp, an aging veteran with a relatively weak arm (and a couple of shoulder surgeries to boot)....Culpepper would join a talented roster and sit behind a quarterback who has proven fragile throughout his career.

Is Culpepper not a 31 y/o-ish aging veteran with an extremely weak knee who has proven too fragile to play AT ALL? What's the theory here? Between Chad and Daunte, they figure one might be healthy enough to run out there any given week?

bsaza2358
06-08-2007, 11:30 AM
Um, Culpepper is 29 and coming off a terrible season and still recovering from ACL repair. Is Culpepper really going to provide much leadership and support as a veteran backup? Also, doesn't this stunt the growth of supposed QB of the future Kellen Clemens?

AlexDown
06-08-2007, 11:40 AM
Does anyone know how many Miami Culpepper Jerseys have been sold?

NIN1984
06-08-2007, 11:48 AM
I heard Jags are very happy with Leftwich right now he looks good a camp he lost weight, he is the starter. They don't really need Culpepper

LionSmack
06-08-2007, 01:03 PM
From KFFL:

Dolphins | Culpepper to block any trade
Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:35:56 -0700

Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper will refuse to restructure his contract, which would essentially block the team from trading him. Culpepper is set to earn $5.5 million in base salary in 2007. "They're going to do what's best for them. Obviously, I'm going to do in my opinion what's best for me," Culpepper said. "I'm going to work out every day I'm here and continue to get myself healthier and physically better the best way I can." Culpepper has been barred from practice with the exception of one-on-one drills.


No way Miami can trade him now. He will be cut and I bet you he tries as hard as he can to stay in Florida.

I also bet he will not sign for a bargain contract this year, instead he will wait until his knee is 100% again, and demand top dollars for a long-term deal in 2008. I think Tampa is a very good bet after Garcia shows last year was his last hurrah and Simms' window to be a legit NFL QB finally closes.

brat316
06-08-2007, 01:30 PM
Detorit is where he will end up

LionSmack
06-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Detorit is where he will end up

No way. This will not ever ever happen. Not now, not next year.

Geo
06-08-2007, 05:21 PM
It's crazy how fast his career went into a down spiral after Randy Moss left him.

http://www.10000takes.com/MossCulpeper.jpg
That's because Moss made him.

senormysterioso
06-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Duante has always been more deer in the headlights than eye of the tiger

Flyboy
06-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Culpepper showed up at the Dolphins minicamp practice Friday. According to a report in the Miami Herald, Culpepper said the Dolphins told him during a meeting in front of the whole team he had no future with the team and would not be able to practice with the team, other than individual drills.
Culpepper left the field midway through the practice, escorted by Stu Weinstein, the Dolphins security chief.



http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txdolphinsculpepper&prov=st&type=lgns

draftguru151
06-08-2007, 07:41 PM
Well the Dolphins sure are being first class about this. Just cut him already.

VY10
06-08-2007, 07:50 PM
Well the Dolphins sure are being first class about this. Just cut him already.

Agreed. They like to fart around when it comes to dealing with QBs.

Phrost
06-08-2007, 07:51 PM
What a mind job, two years ago if you would have asked me if I would rather have Trent Green or Daunte Culpepper. I would have laughed in your face.

brat316
06-08-2007, 11:41 PM
What do they see in a 37 yr old qb, I bet they are going to make Green play 69.9 percent of plays and leave the rest to Beck and Lemon, just to mess with the Chiefs for making them wait so long.

They might as well let Beck of Lemon play the season so Miami sucks again and maybe they will a good WR in the top 10 this time.

BlindSite
06-09-2007, 01:33 AM
What do they see in a 37 yr old qb, I bet they are going to make Green play 69.9 percent of plays and leave the rest to Beck and Lemon, just to mess with the Chiefs for making them wait so long.

They might as well let Beck of Lemon play the season so Miami sucks again and maybe they will a good WR in the top 10 this time.

They're better of using Green now and letting Beck learn until he's ready to start, clearly neither Beck nor Lemon is NFL ready.

Man_Of_Steel
06-09-2007, 12:47 PM
I could se him ending up in Detriot, or very possibly Dallas. They have virtually nothing behing Romo and Jones could pay Culpepper what he wants.