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Titans10
12-13-2006, 12:27 AM
i saw someone post this in the All SEC thread and thought it would be a good idea to make its own thread

If each confrence made an all-star team and they played one another who would win and why?

and if you really want to get into it post your own confences all star team

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2006, 12:31 AM
Hmmm, rough. I think it'd be a battle between the SEC and Big Ten. Big East could make a run. Honestly, and with a little bias, I think the Big Ten could take it. Better QB, Better RB, we have dominant LBs and a very good secondary. Man, it'd be stacked.

doingthisinsteadofwork
12-13-2006, 12:34 AM
Yah its definetely SEC vs. Big 10.
I say SEC.

P-L
12-13-2006, 12:38 AM
Big 10 imo, and that is how I truely feel. They'd have an elite OL (Thomas and Long at OT, Grimes and Jones at OG, and Datish at C), the best college QB in Troy Smith, a scary WR corps with Ginn, Manningham, and Gonzalez and the best all around TE in Matt Spaeth.

A DL of Woodley, Branch, Pitcock, and Spencer would be nasty. The LB corps would include Posluszny, Laurinaitis, and Harris. The only weak spot would be the secondary, although Leon Hall is one of the top corners.

The SEC could probably come close to, or have a better defense than the Big 10, but the offense would be too good. Let's get some other teams posted.
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DChess
12-13-2006, 12:52 AM
big 10, more like if it was michigna and osu then they would beat anybody although michigan has a population that mainly consists of inbred children

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2006, 01:10 AM
Big 10 imo, and that is how I truely feel. They'd have an elite OL (Thomas and Long at OT, Grimes and Jones at OG, and Datish at C), the best college QB in Troy Smith, a scary WR corps with Ginn, Manningham, and Gonzalez and the best all around TE in Matt Spaeth.

A DL of Woodley, Branch, Pitcock, and Spencer would be nasty. The LB corps would include Posluszny, Laurinaitis, and Harris. The only weak spot would be the secondary, although Leon Hall is one of the top corners.

The SEC could probably come close to, or have a better defense than the Big 10, but the offense would be too good. Let's get some other teams posted.
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Even tossing in some of the lower team guys. James Hardy at WR, Malcolm Jenkins at CB. And RB? Imagine P.J. Hill and Mike Hart. Damn...

B-Dawk
12-13-2006, 01:15 AM
Big 10 imo, and that is how I truely feel. They'd have an elite OL (Thomas and Long at OT, Grimes and Jones at OG, and Datish at C), the best college QB in Troy Smith, a scary WR corps with Ginn, Manningham, and Gonzalez and the best all around TE in Matt Spaeth.

A DL of Woodley, Branch, Pitcock, and Spencer would be nasty. The LB corps would include Posluszny, Laurinaitis, and Harris. The only weak spot would be the secondary, although Leon Hall is one of the top corners.

The SEC could probably come close to, or have a better defense than the Big 10, but the offense would be too good. Let's get some other teams posted.
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The Big 10 would also have King and Jenkins at corner not a weak spot at all imo.

soybean
12-13-2006, 01:26 AM
All i know is the PAC-10 gets the kicker advantage, with justin medlock and alex serna. hahah.

snuff
12-13-2006, 01:42 AM
Big-10 for reasons pointed out above.

Mr. Stiller
12-13-2006, 02:20 AM
QB: Troy Smith -> Chad Henne -> Drew Stanton
RB: PJ Hill -> Mike Hart -> Tony Hunt -> Antonio Pittman
FB: Dane Todd -> Brandon Snow
WR: Ted Ginn -> Derrick Williams -> Steve Breaston
WR: James Hardy -> Ernie Wheelwright -> Dorien Bryant
WR: Mario Manningham -> Anthony Gonzalez -> Kerry Reid
TE: Matt Spaeth -> Matt Herian -> Tyler Ecker
LT: Joe Thomas -> Levi Brown -> Mike Otto
LG: Jordan Grimes -> Ryan Keenan
OC: Doug Datish -> Mike Bihl
RG: Mike Jones -> Reuben Riley
RT: Jake Long -> Joe Ainslie -> Charles Myles


4-3:

LDE: LaMarr Woodley -> Jay Moore
LDT: Alan Branch -> Jay Alford
RDT: Quinn Pitcock -> David Patterson
RDE: Anthony Spencer -> Adam Carriker

LOLB: Paul Pozlusny -> Nick Roach
MLB: David Harris -> James Laurainitis
ROLB: Dan Connor -> David Herron

CB: Leon Hall -> Justin King
CB: Marquice Cole -> Alan Ball

FS: Willis Barringer -> Rod Rogers
SS: Joe Stellmacher -> Brian Heinz


I'm sure i forgot some people.

P-L
12-13-2006, 02:36 AM
Big 10 imo, and that is how I truely feel. They'd have an elite OL (Thomas and Long at OT, Grimes and Jones at OG, and Datish at C), the best college QB in Troy Smith, a scary WR corps with Ginn, Manningham, and Gonzalez and the best all around TE in Matt Spaeth.

A DL of Woodley, Branch, Pitcock, and Spencer would be nasty. The LB corps would include Posluszny, Laurinaitis, and Harris. The only weak spot would be the secondary, although Leon Hall is one of the top corners.

The SEC could probably come close to, or have a better defense than the Big 10, but the offense would be too good. Let's get some other teams posted.
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The Big 10 would also have King and Jenkins at corner not a weak spot at all imo.

Well it wouldn't be 'weak' per say, but compared to other teams it wouldn't be a strong point.

snuff
12-13-2006, 02:52 AM
QB: JaMarcus Russell -> Chris Leak
RB: Darren McFadden -> Kenny Irons
FB:
WR: Robert Meachem -> Marcus Monk
WR: EB -> Sidney Rice
WR: Dwayne Bowe -> Dallas Baker
TE: Martrez Milner
LT: Tony Ugoh
LG: Ben Grubbs
OC: ?
RG: Tim Duckworth
RT: Aaron Sears


4-3:

LDE: Charles Johnson
LDT: ?
RDT: Glenn Dorsey
RDE: Quentin Groves

LOLB: Jerod Mayo -> Earl Everett
MLB: Patrick Willis -> Buster Davis
ROLB: philip Wheeler -> Brandon Siler

CB: Ryan Smith -> Fred Bennet
CB: David Irons ->

FS: LaRon Landry -> Johnathan Hefney
SS: Reggie Nelson -> Tra Battle

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On the big10 Mike Hart > PJ Hill
CB should be Malcolm Jenkins
OG should be T.J Downing

Mr. Stiller
12-13-2006, 04:28 AM
QB: JaMarcus Russell -> Chris Leak
RB: Darren McFadden -> Kenny Irons
FB:
WR: Robert Meachem -> Marcus Monk
WR: EB -> Sidney Rice
WR: Dwayne Bowe -> Dallas Baker
TE: Martrez Milner
LT: Tony Ugoh
LG: Ben Grubbs
OC: ?
RG: Tim Duckworth
RT: Aaron Sears


4-3:

LDE: Charles Johnson
LDT: ?
RDT: Glenn Dorsey
RDE: Quentin Groves

LOLB: Jerod Mayo -> Earl Everett
MLB: Patrick Willis -> Buster Davis
ROLB: philip Wheeler -> Brandon Siler

CB: Ryan Smith -> Fred Bennet
CB: David Irons ->

FS: LaRon Landry -> Johnathan Hefney
SS: Reggie Nelson -> Tra Battle

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On the big10 Mike Hart > PJ Hill
CB should be Malcolm Jenkins
OG should be T.J Downing


Le'Ron McClain and Tim Castille at FB.. Ramzee Robinson at CB, Chris White at Center, and Justin Harrell at DT.




I'm just thinking of Big 10 ... that'd be a heck of a conference to run a 3-4...

Carriker/Branch at DE... Haven't thouhgt of a NT yet.

Spencer/Woodley/Gholston outside....

Connor, Harris, Puz, Laurainitis Inside

keylime_5
12-13-2006, 10:47 AM
The Big Ten team would win. I mean who could beat this team?

QB-Troy Smith (heisman winner)
RB-Michael Hart
WR-Mario Manningham
WR-Ted Ginn Jr.
WR-Anthony Gonzalez
TE-Matt Spaeth (mackey winner)
LT-Joe Thomas (outland)
LG-Mike Jones
C-Doug Datish
RG-TJ Downing
RT-Jake Long

LE-Anthony Spencer
DT-Alan Branch
DT-Quinn Pitcock
RE-LaMarr Woodley (Lombardi)
LB-David Harris
LB-James Laurinaitis (Nagurski)
LB-Paul Posluszny (Bednarik)
CB-Leon Hall
CB-Malcolm Jenkins
S-Antonio Smith
S-Anthony Scirroto

That's a really awesome team, and it would have the better defense of any conference not to mention the best offense of any conference all star team by far. Hall and Jenkins might be the 2 best CBs in college football.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
12-13-2006, 11:25 AM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle

Mr. Stiller
12-13-2006, 11:27 AM
The Big Ten team would win. I mean who could beat this team?

QB-Troy Smith (heisman winner)
RB-Michael Hart
WR-Mario Manningham
WR-Ted Ginn Jr.
WR-Anthony Gonzalez
TE-Matt Spaeth (mackey winner)
LT-Joe Thomas (outland)
LG-Mike Jones
C-Doug Datish
RG-TJ Downing
RT-Jake Long

LE-Anthony Spencer
DT-Alan Branch
DT-Quinn Pitcock
RE-LaMarr Woodley (Lombardi)
LB-David Harris
LB-James Laurinaitis (Nagurski)
LB-Paul Posluszny (Bednarik)
CB-Leon Hall
CB-Malcolm Jenkins
S-Antonio Smith
S-Anthony Scirroto

That's a really awesome team, and it would have the better defense of any conference not to mention the best offense of any conference all star team by far. Hall and Jenkins might be the 2 best CBs in college football.


Justin King should be on that list somewhere.

danman253
12-13-2006, 11:32 AM
That SEC OL can't hold a candle to the Big Tens. The Big ten front seven would be all over them.

danman253
12-13-2006, 11:34 AM
QB: Troy Smith -> Chad Henne -> Drew Stanton
RB: PJ Hill -> Mike Hart -> Tony Hunt -> Antonio Pittman
FB: Dane Todd -> Brandon Snow
WR: Ted Ginn -> Derrick Williams -> Steve Breaston
WR: James Hardy -> Ernie Wheelwright -> Dorien Bryant
WR: Mario Manningham -> Anthony Gonzalez -> Kerry Reid
TE: Matt Spaeth -> Matt Herian -> Tyler Ecker
LT: Joe Thomas -> Levi Brown -> Mike Otto
LG: Jordan Grimes -> Ryan Keenan
OC: Doug Datish -> Mike Bihl
RG: Mike Jones -> Reuben Riley
RT: Jake Long -> Joe Ainslie -> Charles Myles


4-3:

LDE: LaMarr Woodley -> Jay Moore
LDT: Alan Branch -> Jay Alford
RDT: Quinn Pitcock -> David Patterson
RDE: Anthony Spencer -> Adam Carriker

LOLB: Paul Pozlusny -> Nick Roach
MLB: David Harris -> James Laurainitis
ROLB: Dan Connor -> David Herron

CB: Leon Hall -> Justin King
CB: Marquice Cole -> Alan Ball

FS: Willis Barringer -> Rod Rogers
SS: Joe Stellmacher -> Brian Heinz


I'm sure i forgot some people.

Ok, i do not know why you have PJ Hill over Mike Hart. I'm sorry but that is one of the insanely dumb things i have seen.

BrownsTown
12-13-2006, 11:52 AM
Big 10, easily.

danman253
12-13-2006, 12:01 PM
QB: Troy Smith, Chad Henne, Drew Stanton
RB: Mike Hart, Tony Hunt, PJ Hill
FB: Stan White, Oli Oluigbo
WR: Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, Anthony Gonzalez, James Hardy, Derrick Williams
TE: Matt Spaeth, Andrew Quarless, Scott Chandler
LT: Joe Thomas, Levi Brown,
LG: Mike Jones, Jordan Grimes
C: Doug Datish, Mark Bihl
RG: TJ Downing, Rueben RIley
RT: Jake Long, Mike Otto

LDE: Lamarr Woodley, Kenny Iwebema(sp?)
DT: Alan Branch, Jay Alford
DT: Quinn Pitcock, David Patterson
RDE: Anthony Spencer, Vernon Gholston
LOLB: Paul Posluszny, Shawn Crable
ILB: David Harris, James Laurinitis
ROLB: Dan Connor, Sean Lee
CB: Leon Hall, Justin King
SS: Anthony Scirrotto, Jamario O'Neal
FS: Rod Rogers, Marcus Paschal
CB: Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis
K: Garrett Rivas
P: Jeremy Kapinos

KR: Ted Ginn
PR: Steve Breaston

TIP
12-13-2006, 12:14 PM
QB- Troy Smith, Chad Henne, Drew Stanton
RB-Michael Hart, Tony Hunt, P.J. Hill
WR-Mario Manningham (4th. Derrick Williams)
WR-Ted Ginn Jr. (5th James HArdy)
WR-Anthony Gonzalez
TE-Matt Spaeth, Scott Chandler, Andrew Quarless
LT-Joe Thomas, Levi BrownLG
LG-Mike Jones, Jordan Grimes
C-Doug Datish, Mark Bihl
RG-TJ Downing, Ruben Riley
RT-Jake Long, Mike Otto

LE-Lamarr Woodley, Kenny Iwebema
DT-Alan Branch, Jay Alford
DT-Quinn Pitcock, Patterson
RE-Anthony Spencer, Tim Shaw
LB-David Harris, James Laurenitis
LB-Dan Connor, Jay Lehman
LB-Paul Posluszny, Sean Lee
CB-Leon Hall, Vontae Davis
CB-Justin King, Malcolm Jenkins
S- Marcus Paschal, Jamario O'Neal
S-Anthony Scirroto, Roderick Rogers

K- Garrett Rivas
P- Jeremy Kapinos


That's a stacked team, especially at LB

TIP
12-13-2006, 12:17 PM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.

soybean
12-13-2006, 12:23 PM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, and McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.

you can put jason hill in there too.

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2006, 12:39 PM
That Big Ten team is unreal.

NickBam
12-13-2006, 12:40 PM
Man, if you think Troy Smith has a lot of time to throw the ball now, just imagine with Long and Thomas blocking for him. He'd pick apart defenses.

danman253
12-13-2006, 12:43 PM
Man, if you think Troy Smith has a lot of time to throw the ball now, just imagine with Long and Thomas blocking for him. He'd pick apart defenses.
QFT.

The big Ten wins this EASILY.

NickBam
12-13-2006, 12:44 PM
Man, if you think Troy Smith has a lot of time to throw the ball now, just imagine with Long and Thomas blocking for him. He'd pick apart defenses.
QFT.

The big Ten wins this EASILY.

SEC speed can't stop this team :lol:

danman253
12-13-2006, 01:01 PM
Since no one has done one for this team yet, I'll do the ACC.

QB: Matt Ryan, Riley Skinner, Will Proctor
RB: James Davis, Brandon Ore, CJ Spiller
FB: Mike Cox, Chris Zellner
WR: Calvin Johnson, Chansi Stuckey, Greg Carr, Brandon Tate, Darius Heyward-Bey
TE: Greg Olsen, Anthony Hill
LT: Barry Richardson, Jordan Gaither
LG: Josh Beekman, Steve Vallos
C: Dustin Fry, Andy Wollenschlager
RG: Nathan Bennett, Andrew Crummey
RT: Stephon Heyer, Andrew Gardner


LDE: Gaines Adams, Chris Ellis
DT: DeMarcus Tyler, Andre Fluellen
DT: Joe Anoai, Kareem Brown
DE: Chris Long, Calais Campbell
OLB: Jon Abbate, Erin henderson
ILB: Buster Davis, Vince Hall
OLB: Xavier Adibi, Lawrence Timmons
CB: John Talley, Josh Wilson
SS: Josh Gattis, Myron Rolle
FS: Kenny Phillips, Aaron ROuse
CB: Marcus Hamilton, Dejuan Tribble
K: Sam Swank
P: Adam Podlesh

KR: Eddie Royal
PR: Brandon Tate

BrownsTown
12-13-2006, 01:50 PM
That Big Ten team is unreal.
That is scary good.

Titans10
12-13-2006, 02:08 PM
damn there is a lot of big ten fans that post in this forum

and i think u all under estimate the sec, the speed on defense would be scary and the offense would be incredible

i wish the SEC could play the Big Ten every year with an all star game that would be the sh!t, to prove each year what confrense is better

NickBam
12-13-2006, 02:12 PM
damn there is a lot of big ten fans that post in this forum

and i think u all under estimate the sec, the speed on defense would be scary and the offense would be incredible

i wish the SEC could play the Big Ten every year with an all star game that would be the sh!t, to prove each year what confrense is better

The battle is won in the trenches and the Big Ten blows all other conferences away in that department this year.

snuff
12-13-2006, 02:19 PM
The big 10 has a first round pick at nearly every position.

Michigan
12-13-2006, 02:34 PM
Since no one has done one for this team yet, I'll do the ACC.

QB: Matt Ryan, Riley Skinner, Will Proctor
RB: James Davis, Brandon Ore, CJ Spiller
FB: Mike Cox, Chris Zellner
WR: Calvin Johnson, Chansi Stuckey, Greg Carr, Brandon Tate, Darius Heyward-Bey
TE: Greg Olsen, Anthony Hill
LT: Barry Richardson, Jordan Gaither
LG: Josh Beekman, Steve Vallos
C: Dustin Fry, Andy Wollenschlager
RG: Nathan Bennett, Andrew Crummey
RT: Stephon Heyer, Andrew Gardner


LDE: Gaines Adams, Chris Ellis
DT: DeMarcus Tyler, Andre Fluellen
DT: Joe Anoai, Kareem Brown
DE: Chris Long, Calais Campbell
OLB: Jon Abbate, Erin henderson
ILB: Buster Davis, Vince Hall
OLB: Xavier Adibi, Lawrence Timmons
CB: John Talley, Brandon Meriweather (Can't think of anyone else and saw time here)
SS: Josh Gattis, Myron Rolle
FS: Kenny Phillips, Aaron ROuse
CB: Marcus Hamilton, Dejuan Tribble
K: Sam Swank
P: Adam Podlesh

KR: Eddie Royal
PR: Brandon Tate

I think both Ohio State and Michigan could give this team a reasonable game (like stay within 2 td's), and a combined team of Mich/OSU would prolly win.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
12-13-2006, 02:41 PM
Since no one has done one for this team yet, I'll do the ACC.

QB: Matt Ryan, Riley Skinner, Will Proctor
RB: James Davis, Brandon Ore, CJ Spiller
FB: Mike Cox, Chris Zellner
WR: Calvin Johnson, Chansi Stuckey, Greg Carr, Brandon Tate, Darius Heyward-Bey
TE: Greg Olsen, Anthony Hill
LT: Barry Richardson, Jordan Gaither
LG: Josh Beekman, Steve Vallos
C: Dustin Fry, Andy Wollenschlager
RG: Nathan Bennett, Andrew Crummey
RT: Stephon Heyer, Andrew Gardner


LDE: Gaines Adams, Chris Ellis
DT: DeMarcus Tyler, Andre Fluellen
DT: Joe Anoai, Kareem Brown
DE: Chris Long, Calais Campbell
OLB: Jon Abbate, Erin henderson
ILB: Buster Davis, Vince Hall
OLB: Xavier Adibi, Lawrence Timmons
CB: John Talley, Brandon Meriweather (Can't think of anyone else and saw time here)
SS: Josh Gattis, Myron Rolle
FS: Kenny Phillips, Aaron ROuse
CB: Marcus Hamilton, Dejuan Tribble
K: Sam Swank
P: Adam Podlesh

KR: Eddie Royal
PR: Brandon Tate

Josh Wilson, maybe?

soybean
12-13-2006, 03:05 PM
homers!

danman253
12-14-2006, 01:28 AM
Since no one has done one for this team yet, I'll do the ACC.

QB: Matt Ryan, Riley Skinner, Will Proctor
RB: James Davis, Brandon Ore, CJ Spiller
FB: Mike Cox, Chris Zellner
WR: Calvin Johnson, Chansi Stuckey, Greg Carr, Brandon Tate, Darius Heyward-Bey
TE: Greg Olsen, Anthony Hill
LT: Barry Richardson, Jordan Gaither
LG: Josh Beekman, Steve Vallos
C: Dustin Fry, Andy Wollenschlager
RG: Nathan Bennett, Andrew Crummey
RT: Stephon Heyer, Andrew Gardner


LDE: Gaines Adams, Chris Ellis
DT: DeMarcus Tyler, Andre Fluellen
DT: Joe Anoai, Kareem Brown
DE: Chris Long, Calais Campbell
OLB: Jon Abbate, Erin henderson
ILB: Buster Davis, Vince Hall
OLB: Xavier Adibi, Lawrence Timmons
CB: John Talley, Brandon Meriweather (Can't think of anyone else and saw time here)
SS: Josh Gattis, Myron Rolle
FS: Kenny Phillips, Aaron ROuse
CB: Marcus Hamilton, Dejuan Tribble
K: Sam Swank
P: Adam Podlesh

KR: Eddie Royal
PR: Brandon Tate

Josh Wilson, maybe?
ok. Will do.

Boston
12-15-2006, 07:30 PM
Big 10 imo, and that is how I truely feel. They'd have an elite OL (Thomas and Long at OT, Grimes and Jones at OG, and Datish at C), the best college QB in Troy Smith, a scary WR corps with Ginn, Manningham, and Gonzalez and the best all around TE in Matt Spaeth.

A DL of Woodley, Branch, Pitcock, and Spencer would be nasty. The LB corps would include Posluszny, Laurinaitis, and Harris. The only weak spot would be the secondary, although Leon Hall is one of the top corners.

The SEC could probably come close to, or have a better defense than the Big 10, but the offense would be too good. Let's get some other teams posted.
L

The Big 10 would also have King and Jenkins at corner not a weak spot at all imo.

Well it wouldn't be 'weak' per say, but compared to other teams it wouldn't be a strong point.

Ikegwuono should be the cornerback opposite Hall. One of the main reasons Wisconsin ranks 2nd in the nation against the pass.

SouthernPride396
12-15-2006, 09:02 PM
This thread is basically "Which conference do you support?"

It's pretty impossible to say who would win in an all-star game between the SEC and Big 10.

Imagine if there was an SEC v. Big 10 all-star game though. :shock: It'd easily be one of the biggest games of the year nationwide.

Another thing I haven't seen mentioned is the coaches of the team,s but those are obviously Tressel and Spurrier.

12-15-2006, 09:16 PM
The SEC couldn't stop the Big Ten's passing attack. Troy Smith throwing to Ginn, Manningham and Hardy with protection from Thomas and Long. :shock:

smittyjs
12-15-2006, 09:47 PM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.SEC has a better Wideout core, this is with out some of the other top wideouts also not on the list.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
12-15-2006, 09:54 PM
ACC, easily.

BrownsTown
12-15-2006, 11:12 PM
ACC, easily. :lol:

TIP
12-15-2006, 11:20 PM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.SEC has a better Wideout core, this is with out some of the other top wideouts also not on the list.


Jarret, Smith, Jackson, Hill, McPhoy>>>> Meachem, Rice, Bowe, Baker, Bennett

GB12
12-15-2006, 11:25 PM
Big Ten would own. I would love to see a game between the Big Ten and SEC.

sweetness34
12-15-2006, 11:49 PM
No love for J Leman at LB anywhere? Granted we were 2-10 but good god, he was dynamite this season. He basically single handedly kept our D in the game against Ohio State.

yodabear
12-15-2006, 11:56 PM
Ohio St. is already far and away the best team in the nation and u add the likes of Hart, Manningham, Polznusky, Stanton, Henne, Hill, I could go on and on, to make an all-star team, Big 10 easily. BTW, I am also a Michigan fan, I lost a bet.

Shane P. Hallam
12-16-2006, 12:12 AM
yoda, don't deny your OSU love....

GB12
12-16-2006, 12:14 AM
Ohio St. is already far and away the best team in the nation.

Homer.

Bem1
12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
1-A independents
notre dame, navy, army and temple = unstoppable

danman253
12-16-2006, 02:52 PM
No love for J Leman at LB anywhere? Granted we were 2-10 but good god, he was dynamite this season. He basically single handedly kept our D in the game against Ohio State.

The Big Ten is so stacked at LB that it is hard to put him in. I can't put him in over Harris, Laurinitis, and Puz.

GB12
12-16-2006, 03:07 PM
1-A independents
notre dame, navy, army and temple = unstoppable

more like = the 6th best conference team at best, they would get schooled.

SuperMcGee
12-16-2006, 03:15 PM
1-A independents
notre dame, navy, army and temple = unstoppable

more like = the 6th best conference team at best, they would get schooled.

MAC would beat them. LeFevour + Wolfe + Robinson. All day, baby

12-16-2006, 03:18 PM
1-A independents
notre dame, navy, army and temple = unstoppable

more like = the 6th best conference team at best, they would get schooled.

It would probably just be Notre Dame.

Bem1
12-16-2006, 10:06 PM
you guys realzied it was a joke right?

GB12
12-16-2006, 10:11 PM
you guys realzied it was a joke right?

No...

seriously.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 08:06 AM
QB - Russell - Leak
HB - McFadden - Irons - Keiland Williams (He will be unreal, just watch)
FB - Florida's Full Back forget his name
WR - Bowe, Baker, Bennett, Meachem, Buster Davis, then Trindon Holliday (everyone in the SEC knows how fast and uncatchable he is)
OT - Ugoh
OG - Grubbs
OC - Niswanger (after injury)
OG - Duckworth
OT - Sears

DE - Moses / Groves
DT - Dorsey / Favorite
DT - Harrell / Thomas
DE - McDonald / Pittman
OLB - Everett/ Highsmith
ILB - Olajabutu / Darry Beckwith
OLB - Simpson / Tony Taylor
CB - David Irons / Smith
CB - Wade / Chevis Jackson
FS - Laron Landry / Craig Steltz
SS - Reggie Nelson / Jesse Daniels

PR/KR - Trindon Holliday

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 08:08 AM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.SEC has a better Wideout core, this is with out some of the other top wideouts also not on the list.


Jarret, Smith, Jackson, Hill, McPhoy>>>> Meachem, Rice, Bowe, Baker, Bennett

Sure they may have better stats but who the hell do they play? Maybe 1 or 2 decent defenses all year? Give me a break dude. Jarrett I will agree with but thats it.

danman253
12-18-2006, 09:17 AM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.SEC has a better Wideout core, this is with out some of the other top wideouts also not on the list.


Jarret, Smith, Jackson, Hill, McPhoy>>>> Meachem, Rice, Bowe, Baker, Bennett

Sure they may have better stats but who the hell do they play? Maybe 1 or 2 decent defenses all year? Give me a break dude. Jarrett I will agree with but thats it.

You honestley must be kidding yourself. Watch a Pac-10 game. While I do not agree that that the Pac-1o has better WR, saying that they are not good because of the defenses they play is a lame arguement.

TIP
12-18-2006, 10:59 AM
SEC all the way. On offense, we have the best WR corps BAR NONE. Add in a quarterback with the strongest arm in college football and a sophomore RB who is a Heisman candidate, and you've got a pretty darn good offense. As for the defense, there is no question in my mind that we've got the best in the nation.


QB - JaMarcus Russell / Andre Woodson / Chris Leak
RB - Darren McFadden / Kenny Irons / Felix Jones
WR - Robert Meachem / Dwayne Bowe / Sidney Rice / Dallas Baker / Earl Bennett
TE - Martrez Milner
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG - Ben Grubbs
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Tim Duckworth
RT - Arron Sears


DE - Quentin Groves / Quentin Moses
DT - Glenn Dorsey / Justin Harrell
DT - Ray McDonald / Marcus Thomas
DE - Charles Johnson / Tyson Jackson
OLB - Earl Everett / Will Herring
ILB - Patrick Willis / Quinton Culberson
OLB - Sam Olajubutu / Ali Highsmith
CB - David Irons / Fred Bennett
CB - Ryan Smith / Jonathan Wade
FS - LaRon Landry / Jonathan Hefney
SS - Reggie Nelson / Tra Battle


Pac 10 is better with Jarrett, Smith, Jackson, Jason Hill and Chris McPhoy. If you think THe SEC has a better defense than the Big Ten you are insane.SEC has a better Wideout core, this is with out some of the other top wideouts also not on the list.


Jarret, Smith, Jackson, Hill, McPhoy>>>> Meachem, Rice, Bowe, Baker, Bennett

Sure they may have better stats but who the hell do they play? Maybe 1 or 2 decent defenses all year? Give me a break dude. Jarrett I will agree with but thats it.

You also are an SEC guy...

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 11:03 AM
Then really there is no way to judge who is better. SEC defenses are heads and shoulders above the rest of the country and SEC WRs are still putting up damn good numbers. Pac 10 defenses are inferior and arent piling up stats like they should.

snuff
12-18-2006, 11:43 AM
Then really there is no way to judge who is better. SEC defenses are heads and shoulders above the rest of the country and SEC WRs are still putting up damn good numbers. Pac 10 defenses are inferior and arent piling up stats like they should.Please explain how SEC defenses are head and shoulders above the Michigan, tOSU, PSU, and Wisconsin's defense.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 11:46 AM
Check the stats buddy. If I remember correctly, the SEC has 5 out of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 11:47 AM
Then really there is no way to judge who is better. SEC defenses are heads and shoulders above the rest of the country and SEC WRs are still putting up damn good numbers. Pac 10 defenses are inferior and arent piling up stats like they should.

Head and shoulders better than the Big Ten? Jesus, get a hold of yourself...

snuff
12-18-2006, 11:47 AM
Check the stats buddy. If I remember correctly, the SEC has 5 out of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country.Try 1.

And if you go by points tOSU is 2 and Wisconsin 3, and no the SEC is not 1.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Going by total defense.

snuff
12-18-2006, 12:05 PM
Going by total defense.LSU is 2, Wisconsin 3, Michigan 6, Georgia 9, Florida 10, tOSU 13, and PSU 16.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 12:07 PM
Scoring Defense>Total Defense

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 12:25 PM
Where did you get those rankings? I lost the link I had to the stats.

danman253
12-18-2006, 02:20 PM
Going by total defense.LSU is 2, Wisconsin 3, Michigan 6, Georgia 9, Florida 10, tOSU 13, and PSU 16.


Owned :lol:

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 02:26 PM
Not owned *****, just saying what they were last I heard. Prob a month ago.

danman253
12-18-2006, 02:30 PM
Not owned ***********, just saying what they were last I heard. Prob a month ago.


Naughty language, tsk tsk tsk.

Get updated info and you won't look like a fool.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 02:37 PM
Cant say I look like a fool. Nobody knows who is better unless the teams play so arguing this makes us all look like fools i guess.

danman253
12-18-2006, 02:41 PM
Cant say I look like a fool. Nobody knows who is better unless the teams play so arguing this makes us all look like fools i guess.
Uhh yes i can, u posted faulty information, then when you tried saying it was right, snuff posted facts, thus making you look stupid.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 02:46 PM
Cant say I look like a fool. Nobody knows who is better unless the teams play so arguing this makes us all look like fools i guess.
Uhh yes i can, u posted faulty information, then when you tried saying it was right, snuff posted facts, thus making you look stupid.

And arguing with me over something that neither of us an prove makes you look just as stupid.

danman253
12-18-2006, 02:49 PM
Cant say I look like a fool. Nobody knows who is better unless the teams play so arguing this makes us all look like fools i guess.
Uhh yes i can, u posted faulty information, then when you tried saying it was right, snuff posted facts, thus making you look stupid.

And arguing with me over something that neither of us an prove makes you look just as stupid.

:lol: yeah okay sport.

BuckeyeNation27
12-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Cant say I look like a fool. Nobody knows who is better unless the teams play so arguing this makes us all look like fools i guess.
Uhh yes i can, u posted faulty information, then when you tried saying it was right, snuff posted facts, thus making you look stupid.

And arguing with me over something that neither of us an prove makes you look just as stupid.Actually they're arguing with you over something that can be proved.....and it was proved......and you were wrong.




At first I thought this was just a bunch of biased homers picking the Big10 to win this mythical game. I think the Big10 is down this year and I think the SEC is a little better (Yes I said a little better.....the SEC fans need to get over themselves and stop thinking they're 60 times better than any other conference). But if you're building an all star team you're taking the best of the best, and the Big10 has the 2 "best" teams in the country. You could win this argument with an OSU/Michigan combo team. When you throw in studs like the LBs from PSU then it's not really homerish to vote for the Big10.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:12 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
12-18-2006, 03:23 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.

Only a total homer would say Florida is better than Michigan. You have to have been living under a rock for 2 months if you think that's why Florida's in the title game. Also, with the 1 and 3 vs. 2 and 4 thing, I dont know what you're getting at, but it shows the Big 10's better. Not to mention they also have #7 in the BCS compared to #9 as next in the SEC.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:24 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.

Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. I don't see how this was about WRs when you were bringing up fake/old total defense rankings.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:28 PM
The defense thing was about the level of talent on defenses in the SEC compared to the Pac 10. You should prob read the beginning before you post if you dont know whats going on. And when UF plays teams like LSU, AU, Arkansas, Tenn, UGA and only loses 1 game yea I would say they could be better. UM had their chance and they lost. Too bad.

And no posting about the number of bowl teams and ranked teams in your arguement? Didnt think so.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:29 PM
The defense thing was about the level of talent on defenses in the SEC compared to the Pac 10. You should prob read the beginning before you post if you dont know whats going on. And when UF plays teams like LSU, AU, Arkansas, Tenn, UGA and only loses 1 game yea I would say they could be better. UM had their chance and they lost. Too bad.

And no posting about the number of bowl teams and ranked teams in your arguement? Didnt think so.

This all started due to you saying the SEC defense is "head and shoulders" above any other conferences.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:30 PM
It started when I said that the Pac 10s WRs werent better than the SECs WRs.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:33 PM
Check the stats buddy. If I remember correctly, the SEC has 5 out of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country.

You were wrong, admit your mistakes and move on with your life.

BuckeyeNation27
12-18-2006, 03:33 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.Actually you were arguing that the SEC had 5 of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country. They don't. You were wrong.

Not like it means anything though....Any SEC defense looks tough going up against the pathetic units you call SEC offenses.

12-18-2006, 03:34 PM
The Big Ten would have the best QB, WR and OL. Our offense would pwn all.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:35 PM
The Big Ten would have the best QB, WR and OL. Our offense would pwn all.

QFT.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:36 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.Actually you were arguing that the SEC had 5 of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country. They don't. You were wrong.

Not like it means anything though....Any SEC defense looks tough going up against the pathetic units you call SEC offenses.

Penn State and Wisconsin will see how pathetic those SEC offenses are in a few weeks. McFadden will KILL Wisconsins defense by himself. Ainge and Meachem will expoit Penn State and that garbage secondary.

Who do you guys pick in the Sugar Bowl by the way, please say ND.

BuckeyeNation27
12-18-2006, 03:38 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.You mean like when I said the SEC is the best conference this year?

The reason the SEC is the best conference this year is because of depth. But depth has nothing to do with picking an all star team....so your edge nulified.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:39 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.Actually you were arguing that the SEC had 5 of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country. They don't. You were wrong.

Not like it means anything though....Any SEC defense looks tough going up against the pathetic units you call SEC offenses.

Penn State and Wisconsin will see how pathetic those SEC offenses are in a few weeks. McFadden will KILL Wisconsins defense by himself. Ainge and Meachem will expoit Penn State and that garbage secondary.

Who do you guys pick in the Sugar Bowl by the way, please say ND.

ND is going to get lit up, everyone knows that.

BuckeyeNation27
12-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Actually we were arguing over WRs from the Pac 10 and WRs from the SEC, which in no way, shape or form can be proved.

And dont you think if Michigan was the 2nd best team in the nation they would be playing OSU instead of an SEC team in Florida? Big 10 has 1 and 3, SEC has 2 and 4. There ya go. Not to mention the SEC has more bowl teams and more ranked teams.Actually you were arguing that the SEC had 5 of the top 6 or 7 defenses in the country. They don't. You were wrong.

Not like it means anything though....Any SEC defense looks tough going up against the pathetic units you call SEC offenses.

Penn State and Wisconsin will see how pathetic those SEC offenses are in a few weeks. McFadden will KILL Wisconsins defense by himself. Ainge and Meachem will expoit Penn State and that garbage secondary.

Who do you guys pick in the Sugar Bowl by the way, please say ND.Penn State and Wisconsin suck. Big deal. Penn State's D will play well against Tenn, but their offense will blow goats. Wisconsin is the definition of overrated.

That doesn't change the fact that SEC offenses are weak. You can't put a group together that could compete with the Big10 on offense.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Well yea I guess you can say thats true. I also never said the SEC All Star team would beat the Big Ten team, I just posted my opinions on who the SEC team would be. I dont think I said the SEC team would win anyways.

12-18-2006, 03:41 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:43 PM
Well the other Big Ten homer Nickbam seems to think Wisconsin and Penn State will win...

"Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. "

We all know UF will not win the NC. It will be a better game that you all think it will be but OSU will win.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:44 PM
Well the other Big Ten homer Nickbam seems to think Wisconsin and Penn State will win...

"Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. "

We all know UF will not win the NC. It will be a better game that you all think it will be but OSU will win.

Nice try putting words in my mouth. I said we'll see what happens. Where exactly does it say "oh yeah Penn State and Wisky are gonna win!!!!!!111!!!11!!!".

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:44 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:45 PM
Well the other Big Ten homer Nickbam seems to think Wisconsin and Penn State will win...

"Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. "

We all know UF will not win the NC. It will be a better game that you all think it will be but OSU will win.

Nice try putting words in my mouth. I said we'll see what happens. Where exactly does it say "oh yeah Penn State and Wisky are gonna win!!!!!!111!!!11!!!".

Why would you even bring those games up if you didnt think they woudl win? Thats just pointless. O i guess when you see your other Big Ten people saying Wisconsin and Penn State suck you have to agree with them so you dont look like an outcast. Its cool buddy, follow the crowd.

12-18-2006, 03:45 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:46 PM
Well the other Big Ten homer Nickbam seems to think Wisconsin and Penn State will win...

"Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. "

We all know UF will not win the NC. It will be a better game that you all think it will be but OSU will win.

Nice try putting words in my mouth. I said we'll see what happens. Where exactly does it say "oh yeah Penn State and Wisky are gonna win!!!!!!111!!!11!!!".

Why would you even bring those games up if you didnt think they woudl win? Thats just pointless.

Um... because its SEC Vs. Big Ten.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:47 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

12-18-2006, 03:50 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:51 PM
Well the other Big Ten homer Nickbam seems to think Wisconsin and Penn State will win...

"Well I guess we'll see who wins between Ohio State/Florida, Tennessee/Penn State and Wisconsin/Arkansas. "

We all know UF will not win the NC. It will be a better game that you all think it will be but OSU will win.

Nice try putting words in my mouth. I said we'll see what happens. Where exactly does it say "oh yeah Penn State and Wisky are gonna win!!!!!!111!!!11!!!".

Why would you even bring those games up if you didnt think they woudl win? Thats just pointless. O i guess when you see your other Big Ten people saying Wisconsin and Penn State suck you have to agree with them so you dont look like an outcast. Its cool buddy, follow the crowd.

And wasn't mighty Auburn supposed to beat Wisconsin last year? I think Tennessee will beat Penn State, but Wisconsin and Arkansas is going to be a hell of a game.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 03:55 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

12-18-2006, 03:57 PM
Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

I agree Ginn will do nothing in the NFL, but we're talking about these guys as college players, and Ginn and Gonzalez are great college recievers.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 03:58 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

Why do you continue to make things up? No one said Hardy is God.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:01 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

Why do you continue to make things up? No one said Hardy is God.

I never said you actually said he was God. Do you idiots up north not know what sarcasm is?

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:02 PM
Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

I agree Ginn will do nothing in the NFL, but we're talking about these guys as college players, and Ginn and Gonzalez are great college recievers.

The only reason he is good in college is because of Smith. Bad routes, inconsistancy = a bad WR. Without Troy, Ginn is nothing but a return guy that occasionally lines up at WR.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:03 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

Why do you continue to make things up? No one said Hardy is God.

I never said you actually said he was God. Do you idiots up north not know what sarcasm is?

Nope.

12-18-2006, 04:05 PM
Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

I agree Ginn will do nothing in the NFL, but we're talking about these guys as college players, and Ginn and Gonzalez are great college recievers.

The only reason he is good in college is because of Smith. Bad routes, inconsistancy = a bad WR. Without Troy, Ginn is nothing but a return guy that occasionally lines up at WR.

Guess what? Smith would be the Big Ten team's QB so even if your point was true, it doesn't matter.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:05 PM
I certainly wouldnt say the Big 10 has the best WRs. The SEC has quite a few damn good WRs.

And nah, this is entertaining. Rather just keep you douche bags going with your Big 10 is superior crap.

Mario Manningham, Ted Ginn, James Hardy and Anthony Gonzalez are all great college recievers.

Robert Meachem, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, Sydney Rice, Earl Bennett and Dallas Baker are all pretty damn good too.

Rice and Meacham are the only ones on the same level as those 4 Big Ten recievers.

Have you even watched an LSU game? Bowe is an absolute stud and will be a 1st rounder and Davis is great as well.

Yes I do, and Bowe will not be a first rounder unless a team reaches for need. Davis is good but Ginn, Manningham, Hardy and Gonzalez are all better.

Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

Why do you continue to make things up? No one said Hardy is God.

I never said you actually said he was God. Do you idiots up north not know what sarcasm is?

Nope.

Sucks to be you then. Sarcasm is great!

12-18-2006, 04:07 PM
Must suck to be you too saintsfan, intelligence and logic are pretty nice as well.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:08 PM
Must suck to be you too saintsfan, intelligence and logic are pretty nice as well.

Making arguments with points is nice too. You guys got that in the dirrty south?

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:10 PM
Nah, I enjoy life too much to be serious all the damn time. Long boring life you must lead.

By the way, there is no way anyone can say Ginn is better than Bowe. He has put up far better stats than Ginn, and hell Gonzales too.

Bowe - 25 TDs in 3 years
Ginn - 15 TDs in 3 years
Gonzales - 13 TDs in 3 years

How you like them stats bitches?

12-18-2006, 04:11 PM
Nah, I enjoy life too much to be serious all the damn time. Long boring life you must lead.

By the way, there is no way anyone can say Ginn is better than Bowe. He has put up far better stats than Ginn, and hell Gonzales too.

Bowe - 25 TDs in 3 years
Ginn - 15 TDs in 3 years
Gonzales - 13 TDs in 3 years

Completely ignore the fact that Ginn and Gonzalez are only juniors. :roll:

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:12 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:12 PM
Nah, I enjoy life too much to be serious all the damn time. Long boring life you must lead.

By the way, there is no way anyone can say Ginn is better than Bowe. He has put up far better stats than Ginn, and hell Gonzales too.

Bowe - 25 TDs in 3 years
Ginn - 15 TDs in 3 years
Gonzales - 13 TDs in 3 years

Gonzalez has been buried in the depth chart behind Santonio Holmes and Ted Ginn. He has made big catches throughout his career. Thats real nice if Bowe had more touchdown grabs than Ginn and Gonzo. That doesn't necessiarly means hes better. However, putting NFL potential/where they'll be drafted it would seemingly be:

1. Ginn
2. Bowe
3. Gonzalez (he is a first day pick, even though you don't see this)

TIP
12-18-2006, 04:14 PM
Saintfan 912= Homer

12-18-2006, 04:14 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:14 PM
But I guess playing behind great WRs like Clayton, Henderson and Skyler Green wont get you too much PT on a National Championship team.

12-18-2006, 04:16 PM
But I guess playing behind great WRs like Clayton, Henderson and Skyler Green wont get you too much PT on a National Championship team.

Bowe started his sophmore year so another point that makes zero sense. Looks like the SEC has its very own Cleveland31.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:16 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:17 PM
But I guess playing behind great WRs like Clayton, Henderson and Skyler Green wont get you too much PT on a National Championship team.

Bowe started his sophmore year so another point that makes zero sense. Looks like the SEC has its very own Cleveland31.

Ginn didnt start last year? He has 50 receptions that beg to differ with that statement.

12-18-2006, 04:18 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

He was moving back and forth from offense to defense and wasn't a starter.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:19 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

He was moving back and forth from offense to defense and wasn't a starter.

He must not have done a damn thing on defense if there are no tackles, ints or anything that has to do with defense on his record.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:20 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

He was moving back and forth from offense to defense and wasn't a starter.

Ginn didn't even burst onto to the scene until the end of the year.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:21 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

He was moving back and forth from offense to defense and wasn't a starter.

Ginn didn't even burst onto to the scene until the end of the year.

Neither did Bowe, not til the end of his sophmore year. Same thing buddy. Bowe was behind Buster last season and the season before that.

12-18-2006, 04:24 PM
And the fact that Bowe didnt play a down til his Sophmore year.

You realize you didn't include his freshman year in that right? So that point makes zero sense. Ginn didn't even freakin' play the position until last year and Gonzalez just became a starter this year.


He obviously did when he had 25 receptions his freshman year. I guess not having the same competion at WR as Bowe did means nothing.

He was moving back and forth from offense to defense and wasn't a starter.

He must not have done a damn thing on defense if there are no tackles, ints or anything that has to do with defense on his record.

It is widely known he was orginally recruited to play corner for OSU.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:25 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:27 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

So... what are you going to do when Ted Ginn is a Top 15 pick and Bowe is getting 2nd round money?

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:29 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

So... what are you going to do when Ted Ginn is a Top 15 pick and Bowe is getting 2nd round money?

Ill say cool, then when Ginn is out of the league in 3 years and Bowe is starting for whoever picks him Ill come back here and laugh at all you idiots.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:30 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

So... what are you going to do when Ted Ginn is a Top 15 pick and Bowe is getting 2nd round money?

Ill say cool, then when Ginn is out of the league in 3 years and Bowe is starting for whoever picks him Ill come back here and laugh at all you idiots.

Well, Ginn won't be out of this league with his ability to return kicks and punts, but okay.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:32 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

So... what are you going to do when Ted Ginn is a Top 15 pick and Bowe is getting 2nd round money?

Ill say cool, then when Ginn is out of the league in 3 years and Bowe is starting for whoever picks him Ill come back here and laugh at all you idiots.

Well, Ginn won't be out of this league with his ability to return kicks and punts, but okay.

Hes no Dante Hall man. He wont stay in the league just cause he can return kicks. Look at Skyler Green. He was one of the best kick/punt returners to ever come out of college and he was cut last week by the Cowgirls.

12-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Devin Hester went 2nd round just because he can return kicks. They are valuable players and Ginn is a very good return man.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 04:34 PM
Which he never did. Whats your damn point dude? He never played there. If he did, he sure did suck at it.

So... what are you going to do when Ted Ginn is a Top 15 pick and Bowe is getting 2nd round money?

Ill say cool, then when Ginn is out of the league in 3 years and Bowe is starting for whoever picks him Ill come back here and laugh at all you idiots.

Well, Ginn won't be out of this league with his ability to return kicks and punts, but okay.

Hes no Dante Hall man. He wont stay in the league just cause he can return kicks. Look at Skyler Green. He was one of the best kick/punt returners to ever come out of college and he was cut last week by the Cowgirls.

Ted Ginn is a better receiver than Skyler Green. Green's senior year he had 32 catches for 268 yards and no scores. The Cowboys should've know he was no good at WR.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Because LSU was loaded at WR with Bowe, Davis, Doucet and the fastest man in the country Xavier Carter.

smittyjs
12-18-2006, 04:43 PM
Ted Ginn won't be out of the league in 3 years

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 04:45 PM
Ted Ginn won't be out of the league in 3 years

Man, you have some great arguements backing that point up.

snuff
12-18-2006, 04:51 PM
Ted Ginn won't be out of the league in 3 years

Man, you have some great arguements backing that point up.Because his contract will be longer than 3 years, and cutting him wont be worth it? how about that?

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:03 PM
He will be drafted in the 15-20 range and those contracts are typically signed for 3 -4 years.

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:19 PM
He will be drafted in the 15-20 range and those contracts are typically signed for 3 -4 years.Which would mean he would last at least 3 or 4 years.... You are saying he will only last two years... And to think someone would get rid of him after 2 years is idiotic, because teams love to try to turn athletes into players.

He would also most likely have a job doing punt returns or kick returns somewhere.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:21 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:23 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:28 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.

12-18-2006, 05:29 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.

The Colts have Terrence Wilkins and TJ Rushing on their roster pretty much solely for kick return duties. A lot of teams keep return specialists and Ginn is definitely on the same level as Hall. He hasn't done crap since his one great year.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:32 PM
Wilkins can still run routes at a pro level though, which means he is still a servicable WR. Ginn cant even do it at a college level.

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:34 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.Just what this forum needed another idiot....

Eggs seriously... keep your friends away from here.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:35 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.Just what this forum needed another idiot....

Eggs seriously... keep your friends away from here.

Great comeback guy. That one hit me real hard. IF you dont have points to your arguements then dont post. Keep your ******** thoughts to yourself.

12-18-2006, 05:37 PM
Wilkins can still run routes at a pro level though, which means he is still a servicable WR. Ginn cant even do it at a college level.

Then why did we sign Ricky Proehl just so he wouldn't see playing time?

steelersfan43
12-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.Just what this forum needed another idiot....

Eggs seriously... keep your friends away from here.

Great comeback guy. That one hit me real hard. IF you dont have points to your arguements then dont post. Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself.

:lol:

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.Just what this forum needed another idiot....

Eggs seriously... keep your friends away from here.

Great comeback guy. That one hit me real hard. IF you dont have points to your arguements then dont post. Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself.Seriously it wasn't really a huge attempt, it was more of just a straight forward "your an idiot" with a little shot at another forum 12 year old that I like to hassle.

It was just to set the grounds on where we stand. More to come later at live at 6.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:42 PM
Damn, another strong hit. 12 year old huh? In all actuality I am a senior at LSU and just love coming on here to give my opinions. I could really care less if you like them or not, just like you all Big Ten guys could care less if I like your opinions. Its just how life is. You will learn one day buddy, may not be today or tomorrow, but you will learn someday.

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:46 PM
If you don't think people care about other peoples opinions and you don't care about your ego then why are you posting?

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 05:48 PM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some gay crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.

snuff
12-18-2006, 05:56 PM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some cool crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.Yeah, I am a tOSU homer. You got me. Maybe your wrong and everyone is right, although that is doubtful since your a senior. I like how living all the way across the country, most likely watching 2 tOSU games a year, you seem to know more than 30 people from the north that have watched every tOSU game in 3 years, and all the gm's and coaches on NFL teams that think Ginn is good enough to play in the NFL.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 06:06 PM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some cool crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.Yeah, I am a tOSU homer. You got me. Maybe your wrong and everyone is right, although that is doubtful since your a senior. I like how living all the way across the country, most likely watching 2 tOSU games a year, you seem to know more than 30 people from the north that have watched every tOSU game in 3 years, and all the gm's and coaches on NFL teams that think Ginn is good enough to play in the NFL.

And I have watched every OSU game this year except for the Bowling Green and Cincy games. Ginn didnt look all that impressive at all. Gonzales was the real #1 WR on that team, or at least he should have been. But of course, all you guys are right, the SEC is always wrong. The SEC is inferior, the Big Ten is God's conference where all players go on to be Hall of Famers and later Saints (and not the football Saints, the heavenly Saints since they are all so unbelievably awesome and Saintly).

snuff
12-18-2006, 06:09 PM
Now you got it...

Outside the fact that 90% of SEC fans would disagree with you.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 06:11 PM
Bring them in here and let me see them disagree with me.

snuff
12-18-2006, 06:14 PM
There your friends not mine... And truly I don't care I just want to argue, as its not like I even listen to anyone on here.

saintsfan912
12-18-2006, 06:20 PM
Excatly my point. If you dont listen to anyone, why should anyone listen to you?

snuff
12-18-2006, 06:43 PM
Excatly my point. If you dont listen to anyone, why should anyone listen to you?
I do listen to people with valid points, aka people that agree with me.
I don't know if people listen to me or not, I don't care.
If they do listen to me it more for the sarcasm and jokes, unless its a Michigan football discusion.
And because people respect me, well a few.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 07:12 PM
Devin Hester is on the Bears to return kicks. He may have played some nickelback, but he can't cover to save his life at this point. Pretty sure Allen Rossum doesn't see the field too much outside of returning kicks.

SouthernPride396
12-18-2006, 07:57 PM
Saintsfan......

SEC fans are outnumbered roughly 4:1 on this board, so it's biased enough already. You aren't scoring us any points. You've got to pick your battles, and this isn't one you can win. Nobody can win this argument because there is no way to choose between the SEC and Big 10.

NickBam
12-18-2006, 08:17 PM
Saintsfan......

SEC fans are outnumbered roughly 4:1 on this board, so it's biased enough already. You aren't scoring us any points. You've got to pick your battles, and this isn't one you can win. Nobody can win this argument because there is no way to choose between the SEC and Big 10.

SEC has more depth with the teams in its conference, the Big Ten can put together a better All-Star team. The End.

danman253
12-19-2006, 03:01 AM
saintsfan thinks snuff is an OSU fan :lol:.

Also Bowe can't touch Manningham.

BuckeyeNation27
12-19-2006, 07:36 AM
Ginn is highly overrated. Too inconsistant and doesnt run good routes at all. Gonzales and his damn bubble are good but not sure if he is even 1st DAY talent. Manningham has hellacious double moves, he is pretty damn good. Dont know much about Hardy but Im sure if yall say hes God then he must be God.

I agree Ginn will do nothing in the NFL, but we're talking about these guys as college players, and Ginn and Gonzalez are great college recievers.

The only reason he is good in college is because of Smith. Bad routes, inconsistancy = a bad WR. Without Troy, Ginn is nothing but a return guy that occasionally lines up at WR. :lol: :lol: :lol:

But I have to listen to retards on the draft board tell me that Smith sucks, his receivers make him look good.

BuckeyeNation27
12-19-2006, 07:39 AM
Ted Ginn won't be out of the league in 3 years

Man, you have some great arguements backing that point up.your arguments for why he will be out of the league in 3 years are rock solid though. :roll:

BuckeyeNation27
12-19-2006, 07:42 AM
I said he will be out in 3 years, which means after his contract is up he will be gone. He cant run routes, is inconsistant and drops balls when the pressure is on. Not a recipe for a good athlete, much less a good WR.What ever I don't care if he sucks at WR. If he doesn't work out at WR people will try to move him to CB or KR.... He wont be gone in 3 years.

Your missing the point dude. I said teams dont keep KR/PR unless they are Dante Hall and Ginn will never be close to Dante Hall. And there is no way in hell Ginn will ever play CB. If he cant run routes in college what makes you think he will be able to man a zone in the pros? Come on man,think about things before you post. It makes you look like an idiot.I 'd just like to know why Ginn will stop running good routes. Hopefully it's after the NC game......but I just don't understand why he would stop as soon as he get's to Sundays.


Oh wait......you're one of those idiots who heard 3 years ago that he can't run routes or catch, so you still think that's true. Now I get it.

BuckeyeNation27
12-19-2006, 07:57 AM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some cool crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.Yeah, I am a tOSU homer. You got me. Maybe your wrong and everyone is right, although that is doubtful since your a senior. I like how living all the way across the country, most likely watching 2 tOSU games a year, you seem to know more than 30 people from the north that have watched every tOSU game in 3 years, and all the gm's and coaches on NFL teams that think Ginn is good enough to play in the NFL.

And I have watched every OSU game this year except for the Bowling Green and Cincy games. Ginn didnt look all that impressive at all. Gonzales was the real #1 WR on that team, or at least he should have been. But of course, all you guys are right, the SEC is always wrong. The SEC is inferior, the Big Ten is God's conference where all players go on to be Hall of Famers and later Saints (and not the football Saints, the heavenly Saints since they are all so unbelievably awesome and Saintly).I'll call bullsh!t on that one. You watched Ohio State @ Northwestern at 7 instead of LSU vs Alabama at 6:45? I highly doubt a senior at LSU who isn't an OSU fan watched almost every OSU game.

danman253
12-19-2006, 10:43 AM
This thread is funny :lol:

saintsfan912
12-19-2006, 11:13 PM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some cool crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.Yeah, I am a tOSU homer. You got me. Maybe your wrong and everyone is right, although that is doubtful since your a senior. I like how living all the way across the country, most likely watching 2 tOSU games a year, you seem to know more than 30 people from the north that have watched every tOSU game in 3 years, and all the gm's and coaches on NFL teams that think Ginn is good enough to play in the NFL.

And I have watched every OSU game this year except for the Bowling Green and Cincy games. Ginn didnt look all that impressive at all. Gonzales was the real #1 WR on that team, or at least he should have been. But of course, all you guys are right, the SEC is always wrong. The SEC is inferior, the Big Ten is God's conference where all players go on to be Hall of Famers and later Saints (and not the football Saints, the heavenly Saints since they are all so unbelievably awesome and Saintly).I'll call bullsh!t on that one. You watched Ohio State @ Northwestern at 7 instead of LSU vs Alabama at 6:45? I highly doubt a senior at LSU who isn't an OSU fan watched almost every OSU game.

Dude have you heard of TIVO?

BuckeyeNation27
12-20-2006, 07:40 AM
Its obvious all you Big Ten homers could care less about what an SEC guy has to say. Everytime I make a valid point you guys come back with some cool crap that has nothing to do with the point. There is no changing the minds of people like you. Its quite sad.Yeah, I am a tOSU homer. You got me. Maybe your wrong and everyone is right, although that is doubtful since your a senior. I like how living all the way across the country, most likely watching 2 tOSU games a year, you seem to know more than 30 people from the north that have watched every tOSU game in 3 years, and all the gm's and coaches on NFL teams that think Ginn is good enough to play in the NFL.

And I have watched every OSU game this year except for the Bowling Green and Cincy games. Ginn didnt look all that impressive at all. Gonzales was the real #1 WR on that team, or at least he should have been. But of course, all you guys are right, the SEC is always wrong. The SEC is inferior, the Big Ten is God's conference where all players go on to be Hall of Famers and later Saints (and not the football Saints, the heavenly Saints since they are all so unbelievably awesome and Saintly).I'll call bullsh!t on that one. You watched Ohio State @ Northwestern at 7 instead of LSU vs Alabama at 6:45? I highly doubt a senior at LSU who isn't an OSU fan watched almost every OSU game.

Dude have you heard of TIVO?Why would you watch every OSU game as a student of LSU? You're either a liar or a loser.....go get a hooker.

saintsfan912
12-20-2006, 09:02 PM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.

sodar21
12-20-2006, 10:21 PM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.
Aren't you the incest lovers?

TH3
12-20-2006, 10:30 PM
the Pac 10 and BIg 12 over being underrated here

danman253
12-21-2006, 02:13 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

BuckeyeNation27
12-21-2006, 07:33 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.didn't feel like counting Ohio State in that one?

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 09:21 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

Dude, incest is in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Not Louisiana.

And I never said anything about winningest programs, I said fans. And the best fans come from the SOUTH, everyone knows that.

danman253
12-21-2006, 09:55 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

Dude, incest is in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Not Louisiana.

And I never said anything about winningest programs, I said fans. And the best fans come from the SOUTH, everyone knows that.

Yeah okay.

And no, the North has better fans.

P-L
12-21-2006, 10:04 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.didn't feel like counting Ohio State in that one?
Probably because Ohio State isn't in the top 5 of all-time. He'd have to count Nebraska, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Texas. I'm sure he just said Michigan and Notre Dame because everyone knows they are #1 and #2.

danman253
12-21-2006, 10:10 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.didn't feel like counting Ohio State in that one?

Ohio State is not top 5 in all-time wins, FYI.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 10:51 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

Dude, incest is in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Not Louisiana.

And I never said anything about winningest programs, I said fans. And the best fans come from the SOUTH, everyone knows that.

Yeah okay.

And no, the North has better fans.

Once again, another thing neither of us can prove. All opinions. We'll see how many Notre Dame fans show up in New Orleans next week. I'll be there, and I can guarentee you that there probably wont even be 10,000 Notre Dame fans there. And guess what? They are from the north. Stupid yankees.

TIP
12-21-2006, 11:04 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

Dude, incest is in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Not Louisiana.

And I never said anything about winningest programs, I said fans. And the best fans come from the SOUTH, everyone knows that.

Yeah okay.

And no, the North has better fans.

Once again, another thing neither of us can prove. All opinions. We'll see how many Notre Dame fans show up in New Orleans next week. I'll be there, and I can guarentee you that there probably wont even be 10,000 Notre Dame fans there. And guess what? They are from the north. Stupid yankees.

Civil War part II? Are we seriously deciding which side of the Mason Dixon line has better fans?

sodar21
12-21-2006, 11:12 AM
I am just a football fan. I am so very sorry that you losers up north are so engulfed in Big Ten football that you cant open your eyes to other games. Its ok. We all know where the real football fans come from, THE SOUTH! Now shut up and go fondle you mother.


:roll:

Says the man who comes from an area known for incest.

Also in case you haven't noticed, the two winningest programs in the nation come from here: Michiagn and ND.

Dude, incest is in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Not Louisiana.

And I never said anything about winningest programs, I said fans. And the best fans come from the SOUTH, everyone knows that.

Yeah okay.

And no, the North has better fans.

Once again, another thing neither of us can prove. All opinions. We'll see how many Notre Dame fans show up in New Orleans next week. I'll be there, and I can guarentee you that there probably wont even be 10,000 Notre Dame fans there. And guess what? They are from the north. Stupid yankees.
Whats with this inferiority complex? It happened 140 years ago. Time to move on.

And the game is in Louisiana so if LSU does not make hte vast majority of the seats in this virtual home game it will be sad.

P-L
12-21-2006, 11:19 AM
^ Exactly. LSU fans are going to buy tickets much quicker than Notre Dame fans because it's in Louisiana. I promise if the game was in Indiana it'd be 75% Notre Dame fans. It's just how that works.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 12:24 PM
Actually retards, each school has a set amount to sell. Not sure about the number but its the same for both teams. Then the Bowl itself sells the rest. Even then, I dont see many ND fans making the trip to NO.

TIP
12-21-2006, 12:31 PM
Actually retards, each school has a set amount to sell. Not sure about the number but its the same for both teams. Then the Bowl itself sells the rest. Even then, I dont see many ND fans making the trip to NO.

Exactly Tonto...ND fans aren't willing ot make the trip. LSU fans are cause it's practically a home game. We already knew the schools had a set amount to sell, the geography aspect is the sole factor. Now calm down cupcake

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 12:32 PM
Why not travel? LSU fans sure had plans to go to Miami or Pasadena. Just face it, fans in the South travel with their teams no matter what. Its just how it is.

TIP
12-21-2006, 12:46 PM
Why not travel? LSU fans sure had plans to go to Miami or Pasadena. Just face it, fans in the South travel with their teams no matter what. Its just how it is.

Money...It's expensive to go from Indiana to Louisiana.

ummm...Pasadena? You wanna bet money on that? and Louisian to Miami is A HELLUVA LOT CLOSER than South Bend to New Orleans.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 12:49 PM
Bet money on what? And Louisiana to Pasadena is just as far as Indiana to New Orleans. I mean I can understand why they wouldnt want to come. No bowl wins in what 15 years or so? Thats pathetic.

TI: Does it suck that bad to be a Notre Dame fan? It seems like it.

TIP
12-21-2006, 12:52 PM
Bet money on what? And Louisiana to Pasadena is just as far as Indiana to New Orleans. I mean I can understand why they wouldnt want to come. No bowl wins in what 15 years or so? Thats pathetic.

TI: Does it suck that bad to be a Notre Dame fan? It seems like it.

Clearly you cannot read I said MIAMI TO NEW ORLEANS IS FARTHER THAN INDIANA TO LOUISIANA

I'm not a ND fan Champ :D

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 12:54 PM
That was my point in asking how ****** it was to be a fan of the most overrated University in the nation. I can imagine it is very pathetic to cheer for a team that hasnt won a bowl game in that long but continues to be ranked in the preseason even though they suck balls.

TIP
12-21-2006, 12:56 PM
That was my point in asking how *********** it was to be a fan of the most overrated University in the nation. I can imagine it is very pathetic to cheer for a team that hasnt won a bowl game in that long but continues to be ranked in the preseason even though they suck balls.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm not a NOTRE DAME FAN!

I'm a Penn State Fan...WOW!!!!!
I think we need to take saintsfan out back behind the woodshed

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:00 PM
You definately said you were a ND fan, you must have just edited the post.

And dude, what are you betting on?

TIP
12-21-2006, 01:02 PM
You definately said you were a ND fan, you must have just edited the post.

And dude, what are you betting on?
I know I did, I just realized it...I edited though really quick...suprised you caught it. But, still I am definately not a ND fan.

TIP
12-21-2006, 01:02 PM
ummm...Pasadena? You wanna bet money on that? and Louisian to Miami is A HELLUVA LOT CLOSER than South Bend to New Orleans.You said South fans would travel to Miami or Pasadena. I said Pasadena would be harder...then I said that its easier for LSU fans to got to Miami than it would be for ND fans to go to New Orleans

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:02 PM
What are we betting on kid?

TIP
12-21-2006, 01:04 PM
What are we betting on kid?

THere is no bet...I was just saying that its easier for LSU fans to travel to lets say the Orange Bowl...than for ND fans to go to the Sugr BOwl...Pasadena would be a push...so theres no way to really tell unless they played there.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:05 PM
LSU fans, including me, pre-ordered 42,000 fricking tickets to the Rose Bowl. How can you say that theres no way to tell?

sodar21
12-21-2006, 01:10 PM
LSU fans, including me, pre-ordered 42,000 fricking tickets to the Rose Bowl. How can you say that theres no way to tell?
The stadium ticket isn't the main expense or have you never travelled to a bowl game before?

Notre Dame and LSU only split some of the tickets for the Sugar Bowl. The rest are sold by other means and LSU will and should have the home field advantage.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:13 PM
Actually I went to the Peach Bowl last year and the Capital One Bowl a few years back. So yes, I have traveled. Not to mention road trips to Arkansas, Auburn and Tennessee this season. So I know the expenses but they arent that high. Not for real fans its not.

Notre Dame and LSU each had the same allotment of tickets to sell. And if LSU fans ordered that many tickets than obviously they could afford to travel.

danman253
12-21-2006, 01:31 PM
You definately said you were a ND fan, you must have just edited the post.

And dude, what are you betting on?You are a moron. He is a PSU fan, he made an ND post.

Another new user i hate, lets give him the cleveland treatment!

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:35 PM
"I know I did, I just realized it...I edited though really quick...suprised you caught it. But, still I am definately not a ND fan."

Obviously I posted before he edited his post. He said it. How bout you read everything before you post.

I didnt come on this board to make friends and I could give a **** less if you and your homer friends like me or not. I have plenty of them in Louisiana and dont need you guys to validate my opinons of football. Sorry buddy but the world doesnt revolve around you and your gay ass Buckeyes.

sodar21
12-21-2006, 01:36 PM
"I know I did, I just realized it...I edited though really quick...suprised you caught it. But, still I am definately not a ND fan."

Obviously I posted before he edited his post. He said it. How bout you read everything before you post.

I didnt come on this board to make friends and I could give a *********** less if you and your homer friends like me or not. I have plenty of them in Louisiana and dont need you guys to validate my opinons of football. Sorry buddy but the world doesnt revolve around you and your cool ass Buckeyes.
The guy above is a Michigan fan. You need to relax.

12-21-2006, 01:37 PM
"I know I did, I just realized it...I edited though really quick...suprised you caught it. But, still I am definately not a ND fan."

Obviously I posted before he edited his post. He said it. How bout you read everything before you post.

I didnt come on this board to make friends and I could give a *********** less if you and your homer friends like me or not. I have plenty of them in Louisiana and dont need you guys to validate my opinons of football. Sorry buddy but the world doesnt revolve around you and your cool ass Buckeyes.

He's not a buckeye fan. Learn to read. And you're calling people homers? :lol:

danman253
12-21-2006, 01:41 PM
this guy is funny :lol:

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 01:44 PM
Ah, sorry. I dont read gay little things under avatars. I see it now. Just replace Buckeye with Wolverine in all my posts.

TIP
12-21-2006, 01:49 PM
Can we take him out back behind the woodshed?

12-21-2006, 01:54 PM
Ah, sorry. I dont read cool little things under avatars. I see it now. Just replace Buckeye with Wolverine in all my posts.

That proves you obviously have a bias against the Big Ten.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 05:34 PM
It just proves that UM and OSU fans are all the same. All think that your teams are the best at everything. Nobody else matters except OSU and UM even when your teams suck. (not saying they suck this year by no means)

12-21-2006, 05:36 PM
It just proves that UM and OSU fans are all the same. All think that your teams are the best at everything. Nobody else matters except OSU and UM even when your teams suck. (not saying they suck this year by no means)

The Michigan fans on this site are the complete opposite of that and the Ohio State fans in this thread haven't been bad either.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 05:46 PM
This isnt the only site I have come across UM and OSU fans. All of you think OSu and UM are the best teams ever. If yall dont then say so but thats the general consensus of all OSU and UM fans that I have come across.

12-21-2006, 05:47 PM
This isnt the only site I have come across UM and OSU fans. All of you think OSu and UM are the best teams ever. If yall dont then say so but thats the general consensus of all OSU and UM fans that I have come across.

Well Michigan does have the best winning percentage in college football history so they're justified.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 05:51 PM
This isnt the only site I have come across UM and OSU fans. All of you think OSu and UM are the best teams ever. If yall dont then say so but thats the general consensus of all OSU and UM fans that I have come across.

Well Michigan does have the best winning percentage in college football history so they're justified.

Dude, I could care less about History. 90% of that was before you and I were born so who the hell cares?

12-21-2006, 05:54 PM
This isnt the only site I have come across UM and OSU fans. All of you think OSu and UM are the best teams ever. If yall dont then say so but thats the general consensus of all OSU and UM fans that I have come across.

Well Michigan does have the best winning percentage in college football history so they're justified.

Dude, I could care less about History. 90% of that was before you and I were born so who the hell cares?

Just because it was before we were alive doesn't mean it doesn't matter. That's like saying that LT is the best RB ever because all the other guys who were actually better played before you were born so they don't matter.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 05:58 PM
I didnt say they didnt matter. I just said I could care less.

TIP
12-21-2006, 05:58 PM
This isnt the only site I have come across UM and OSU fans. All of you think OSu and UM are the best teams ever. If yall dont then say so but thats the general consensus of all OSU and UM fans that I have come across.

Well Michigan does have the best winning percentage in college football history so they're justified.

Dude, I could care less about History. 90% of that was before you and I were born so who the hell cares?

You said that people think UM is the best team ever...really only ND has any shot at them to contest. So yea...Cards is right

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 06:01 PM
I mean every year after year they think they are the best. It is very impressive that they have the highest winning % ever, no doubt. I just dont think that applies to this year, last year, the year before that or next year.

12-21-2006, 06:02 PM
I mean every year after year they think they are the best. It is very impressive that they have the highest winning % ever, no doubt. I just dont think that applies to this year, last year, the year before that or next year.

Well Michigan and OSU are the two best teams in the NCAA this year so they have the right to brag.

TIP
12-21-2006, 06:02 PM
I mean every year after year they think they are the best. It is very impressive that they have the highest winning % ever, no doubt. I just dont think that applies to this year, last year, the year before that or next year.Last year was a slip up...but the year before that they made the rose bowl, and they are always in the top 15 pretty much every year...I hate michigan, but they are prolly the best

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 06:05 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.

TIP
12-21-2006, 06:07 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.They weren't...hence why I said SLIP UP. meaning like a break in the chain of consistently very good teams... i guess we have to spell everything out for you.

draftguru151
12-21-2006, 06:07 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.

Or they had injuries to key players. :?

snuff
12-21-2006, 06:08 PM
Michigan had the longest streak in the top25 like 15 years before last year...

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 06:08 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.They weren't...hence why I said SLIP UP. meaning like a break in the chain of consistently very good teams... i guess we have to spell everything out for you.

Man, these insults really hurt me. Excuse me for tonite, I am off to find some tang for the night. You guys have fun in front of your computer screen.

saintsfan912
12-21-2006, 06:09 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.

Or they had injuries to key players. :?

Injuries happen to everyone. If LSU doesnt have their top 2 HBs tear their ACL they woudl have a better running game but neither has recovered so the running game suffered. Not to mention the knee injury to their best Olineman Rudy Niswanger.

12-21-2006, 06:10 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.

Michigan would beat Florida in a bowl game and Michigan would have a better chance against OSU. I don't care what the BCS says.

snuff
12-21-2006, 06:10 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.They weren't...hence why I said SLIP UP. meaning like a break in the chain of consistently very good teams... i guess we have to spell everything out for you.

Man, these insults really hurt me. Excuse me for tonite, I am off to find some tang for the night. You guys have fun in front of your computer screen.Yeah, you got me... I should be out partying at 6pm like I did in HS or like my parents so I can make it back to bed at 10pm... I mean if your not out of your house by 6pm to party your a loser.

12-21-2006, 06:16 PM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.They weren't...hence why I said SLIP UP. meaning like a break in the chain of consistently very good teams... i guess we have to spell everything out for you.

Man, these insults really hurt me. Excuse me for tonite, I am off to find some tang for the night. You guys have fun in front of your computer screen.

Wow you're cool. :roll: We're losers because we don't go out to party at 7 o clock at night. :lol: Even if it was later, some of us actually have jobs we have to get up for in the morning.

TIP
12-22-2006, 12:48 AM
A slip up huh? Got to love the excuses. Maybe they werent that good last year, ever think of that? And it looks like UF is the 2nd best team in the nation at this moment. We'll see in 2 weeks who #1 and 2 are.They weren't...hence why I said SLIP UP. meaning like a break in the chain of consistently very good teams... i guess we have to spell everything out for you.

Man, these insults really hurt me. Excuse me for tonite, I am off to find some tang for the night. You guys have fun in front of your computer screen.

ten bucks this kid spent his night playin his 360...that or trying to get with some really fat chick

danman253
12-22-2006, 12:58 AM
After seeing how insanely ******** saintsfan is (and saying he is getting "tang" is 15 year old slang for playing 360 for 3 hours and then telling his friends about it), i must say my sig is very true.

giantfAn
12-22-2006, 01:24 AM
QB: Troy Smith -> Chad Henne -> Drew Stanton
RB: PJ Hill -> Mike Hart -> Tony Hunt -> Antonio Pittman
FB: Dane Todd -> Brandon Snow
WR: Ted Ginn -> Derrick Williams -> Steve Breaston
WR: James Hardy -> Ernie Wheelwright -> Dorien Bryant
WR: Mario Manningham -> Anthony Gonzalez -> Kerry Reid
TE: Matt Spaeth -> Matt Herian -> Tyler Ecker
LT: Joe Thomas -> Levi Brown -> Mike Otto
LG: Jordan Grimes -> Ryan Keenan
OC: Doug Datish -> Mike Bihl
RG: Mike Jones -> Reuben Riley
RT: Jake Long -> Joe Ainslie -> Charles Myles


4-3:

LDE: LaMarr Woodley -> Jay Moore
LDT: Alan Branch -> Jay Alford
RDT: Quinn Pitcock -> David Patterson
RDE: Anthony Spencer -> Adam Carriker

LOLB: Paul Pozlusny -> Nick Roach
MLB: David Harris -> James Laurainitis
ROLB: Dan Connor -> David Herron

CB: Leon Hall -> Justin King
CB: Marquice Cole -> Alan Ball

FS: Willis Barringer -> Rod Rogers
SS: Joe Stellmacher -> Brian Heinz


I'm sure i forgot some people.

Ok, i do not know why you have PJ Hill over Mike Hart. I'm sorry but that is one of the insanely dumb things i have seen.just cause you suck michigans chode doesnt mean everyone else wants to.

BerninWI
12-22-2006, 01:32 AM
Big ten wins.

QB- Troy Smith
RB- Mike Hart...Antonio Pittman
WR- Mario Manningham...James Hardy
WR- Ted Ginn...Anthony Gonzalez
TE- Matt Spaeth...Travis Beckum
OL- Joe Thomas
OG- Mike Jones
C- Doug Datish
OG- TJ Downing
OL- Jake Long

DE- Lamarr Woodley
DT- Quinn Pitcock
DT- Alan Branch
DE- Anthony Spencer
LB- Paul Poszluszny
LB- James Laurinaitis...David Harris
LB- Dan Connor
CB- Malcolm Jenkins...Leon Hall
CB- Jack Ikegwuonu...Vontae Davis
S- Anthony Scirroto
S- Roderick Rogers

danman253
12-22-2006, 01:53 AM
QB: Troy Smith -> Chad Henne -> Drew Stanton
RB: PJ Hill -> Mike Hart -> Tony Hunt -> Antonio Pittman
FB: Dane Todd -> Brandon Snow
WR: Ted Ginn -> Derrick Williams -> Steve Breaston
WR: James Hardy -> Ernie Wheelwright -> Dorien Bryant
WR: Mario Manningham -> Anthony Gonzalez -> Kerry Reid
TE: Matt Spaeth -> Matt Herian -> Tyler Ecker
LT: Joe Thomas -> Levi Brown -> Mike Otto
LG: Jordan Grimes -> Ryan Keenan
OC: Doug Datish -> Mike Bihl
RG: Mike Jones -> Reuben Riley
RT: Jake Long -> Joe Ainslie -> Charles Myles


4-3:

LDE: LaMarr Woodley -> Jay Moore
LDT: Alan Branch -> Jay Alford
RDT: Quinn Pitcock -> David Patterson
RDE: Anthony Spencer -> Adam Carriker

LOLB: Paul Pozlusny -> Nick Roach
MLB: David Harris -> James Laurainitis
ROLB: Dan Connor -> David Herron

CB: Leon Hall -> Justin King
CB: Marquice Cole -> Alan Ball

FS: Willis Barringer -> Rod Rogers
SS: Joe Stellmacher -> Brian Heinz


I'm sure i forgot some people.

Ok, i do not know why you have PJ Hill over Mike Hart. I'm sorry but that is one of the insanely dumb things i have seen.just cause you suck michigans chode doesnt mean everyone else wants to.

Nice choice of words there, you feel like you got a big sack now?

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 10:18 AM
hey SC fan, there is no point in argueing with these guys. They are all Big Ten homers that sit in front of their computers their whole lives.

And by the way, Tang is an expression because I didnt want to say *****. Hey, I'm young and still having fun. Sorry that you are all old and cant do it anymore. Dont be jealous. I wasnt trying to insult anyone with that post last night, just telling you that I couldnt defend myself for the rest of the night so there was no point in attacking me anymore.

NickBam
12-22-2006, 10:28 AM
hey SC fan, there is no point in argueing with these guys. They are all Big Ten homers that sit in front of their computers their whole lives.

And by the way, Tang is an expression because I didnt want to say ***********. Hey, I'm young and still having fun. Sorry that you are all old and cant do it anymore. Dont be jealous. I wasnt trying to insult anyone with that post last night, just telling you that I couldnt defend myself for the rest of the night so there was no point in attacking me anymore.

Coming from the kid who had nearly 100 posts in his first day here. :roll:

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 10:30 AM
Because we had a rain out at work and there was nothing else to do on a wasted day.

NickBam
12-22-2006, 10:30 AM
Because we had a rain out at work and there was nothing else to do on a wasted day.

Why don't you try to get some tang, playa?

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 10:32 AM
Cant really go out drinking on a Monday morning dude. That was just a ******** thing to say. You know, you must feel really big and bad, trying to insult a guy over the internet. You should feel very proud of yourself, haha.

NickBam
12-22-2006, 10:33 AM
Cant really go out drinking on a Monday morning dude. That was just a dumb thing to say. You know, you must feel really big and bad, trying to insult a guy over the internet. You should feel very proud of yourself, haha.

Yet you insult people for "spending their time in front of their computer", especially in this forum. Real big man, you're probably so cool.

Didn't you say you were a senior at LSU?

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 10:35 AM
Yea, whats your point? Its a known fact that people from Louisiana like to go out and party, its just what we do down here. Im sorry people up north dont understand that.

NickBam
12-22-2006, 10:39 AM
Yea, whats your point? Its a known fact that people from Louisiana like to go out and party, its just what we do down here. Im sorry people up north dont understand that.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your right, I hate drinking sooo much. Theres nothing I hate more than having a good time. My point is what kind of person around the age of 22 still says tang? Maybe its a "south" thing. Getting ***** just sounds better. It's also very cool to attempt to brag about "going out" and "getting some" on a message board.

You are my idol.

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 10:44 AM
Yea, whats your point? Its a known fact that people from Louisiana like to go out and party, its just what we do down here. Im sorry people up north dont understand that.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your right, I hate drinking sooo much. Theres nothing I hate more than having a good time. My point is what kind of person around the age of 22 still says tang? Maybe its a "south" thing. Getting *********** just sounds better. It's also very cool to attempt to brag about "going out" and "getting some" on a message board.

You are my idol.

Like I said, there was no braggin, just stating there was no point in argueing for the rest of the night because I wasnt going to be there to defend myself. Was in no way bragging or insulting anyone, just telling you guys why i wouldnt be able to defend myself anymore.

TIP
12-22-2006, 11:16 AM
hey SC fan, there is no point in argueing with these guys. They are all Big Ten homers that sit in front of their computers their whole lives.

And by the way, Tang is an expression because I didnt want to say ***********. Hey, I'm young and still having fun. Sorry that you are all old and cant do it anymore. Dont be jealous. I wasnt trying to insult anyone with that post last night, just telling you that I couldnt defend myself for the rest of the night so there was no point in attacking me anymore.

And you think no one else did? I'm sure the majority of these posters did (me included) the difference is we don't go out at 7...which I'm sure you didn't.

saintsfan912
12-22-2006, 11:22 AM
The only reason I went out at 7 was because this girl i know was having a graduation party at a local bar. Started at 7 so that is the reason. Yall didnt take long to hate me, its pretty impressive.

duckseason
12-22-2006, 11:26 AM
The only reason I went out at 7 was because this girl i know was having a graduation party at a local bar. Started at 7 so that is the reason. Yall didnt take long to hate me, its pretty impressive.
So did you end up getting some tang, or did you get stuck with some of that weak-ass generic orange drink?

TIP
12-22-2006, 11:27 AM
The only reason I went out at 7 was because this girl i know was having a graduation party at a local bar. Started at 7 so that is the reason. Yall didnt take long to hate me, its pretty impressive.
Well, you do seem to be completely ******** and full of s***

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
12-22-2006, 11:33 AM
The only reason I went out at 7 was because this girl i know was having a graduation party at a local bar. Started at 7 so that is the reason. Yall didnt take long to hate me, its pretty impressive.
So did you end up getting some tang, or did you get stuck with some of that weak-ass generic orange drink?

:lol: :lol:

danman253
12-22-2006, 12:05 PM
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giantfAn
12-22-2006, 06:24 PM
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danman253
12-22-2006, 06:31 PM
There is a simple solution to the saints912 virus...

http://img144.exs.cx/img144/2796/BanHim.jpggo away.


Nice how you try and treat me on like a new user...

also nice personal vendetta on me, i guess you don't have a life, seeing as how you have a vendetta on a guy on a internet forum.