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SFbear
06-30-2007, 10:54 PM
Stolen from the offical Bears board. I had a hard time deciding myself. I thought these would be the most obvious options.

Yung Flippa
06-30-2007, 11:08 PM
Ronnie Brown or Cadillac Williams
One Of The 2.

Acreboy
06-30-2007, 11:09 PM
Frank Gore easily.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
06-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Ronnie Brown-I don't think the line is good enough in Miami for him to lead out of these 4.

Cadillac-He has injury problems and the line is way over-hyped.

Cedric Benson-Probably has the best OL out of the 4, and I expect him to not be that far behind Frank Gore.

Gore-He was a monster in 06, but can he repeat? Didn't show any injury concerns last season, although the right side of the line is a big concern for him. Still expect him to have the most yards in this bunch.

keylime_5
06-30-2007, 11:20 PM
1-Gore
2-Benson
3-Brown
4-Williams

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
06-30-2007, 11:52 PM
Most yards? Probably Gore. Most talented? Ronnie Brown... for god's sake, help him out Miami!

Geo
07-01-2007, 12:06 AM
1. Frank Gore - Frank the Tank is the 49ers offense. Touches, all-purpose yards, and touchdowns, he leads the 05 class. The loss of Norv Turner does hurt, but the 49ers doen't seem intent on changing much of what he installed. Plus with the acquisitions on offense at wide receiver (Darrell Jackson, Jason Hill, Ashley Lelie, no Antonio Bryant), budding stud Vernon Davis coming into his second year, and 1st round draft pick Joe Staley likely bumping Kwame "My game has more holes than Swiss Cheese" Harris out of the line-up, Gore might actually see less 8-men-in-the-box looks which he nonetheless managed to overcome in 2006 with flying colors.

2. Ronnie Brown - I originally thought that it might take a year for Brown to explode with Cam Cameron as his offensive coordinator/head coach for the long haul, but I think we see Brown blossom into one of the league's best young backs in 2007. Cameron helped LaDainian Tomlinson for the better his first year in San Diego (and Norv Turner was the OC the year before), the team signed Cory Schlesinger as the fullback, and Brown finally has a starting quarterback he can pair with in Trent Green (even if it only for two more years). Green's not a world-beater, but he's a proven veteran who can run an offense, and you can see the effect he's had on his runningbacks for the last 5 or so years.

3. Cedric Benson - He's finally going to get the carries now that Thomas Jones is removed, and his "struggles" in the passing game weren't as advertised imo - more likely hot air meant to cover up the fact that the defense/locker room favored Jones as their ball-carrier. Well that nonsense is over with, as Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith pulled the trigger on trading away Jones and finally giving Benson the chance to carry the running game on his sturdy shoulders. The NFC North is strong on the defensive line interior though, so that hurts Benson's production a tad.

4. Cadillac Williams - He'll have a better year than last year thankfully, with the offensive line welcoming Luke Petitgout and Aaron Sears as well as a second-year pro Davin Joseph. Jeff Garcia is an upgrade at the QB position by default given, who is at camp and Jake the Snake wisely avoiding the trainwreck that is Jon Gruden, which helps Cadillac a great deal. Gruden, for whatever reason, takes Caddy out of the passing game at times. There may be some difficulty in running the ball though, if the interior of the Falcons, Panthers, and the Saints stay healty. Of course, Cadillac staying healthy is critical, as he's played 14 games in each of his first two seasons.

5. Brandon Jacobs - I'd be more concerned about him holding up for a whole season, especially given his size, than for Reuben Droughns and Ahmad Bradshaw stealing carries. If anything, giving him the full load would ensure that his durability would be tested greatly. So it's not a certainty that he breaks 1K, and if he does I don't think it's by much, but I do think he'll put up a good number of touchdowns if not cracking double-digit scores (so fantasy-wise, I suppose he moves up the list a at least one spot). His yards per carry average (4.4) last season despite still operating as a short-yardage specialist is amazing.

Primetime21
07-01-2007, 01:02 AM
1.Gore
2. Benson
3. Brown
4. Caddy

Almost the exact opposite of what they did there rookie year. Wierd.

reese
07-01-2007, 01:16 AM
i wonder if benson even holds his job the entire year

Acreboy
07-01-2007, 01:35 AM
i wonder if benson even holds his job the entire yearwho else would even challenge him?

reese
07-01-2007, 01:39 AM
idk i almost didnt even post that...but i just dont think he is very good...peterson is solid but idk..i think they will end up running by commitee with benson/peterson/wolfe/and probley some hester...i really just dont think benson will ever set himself apart enuf to be a 25 carry a game back

Flyboy
07-01-2007, 01:42 AM
Gore plz...

reese
07-01-2007, 01:59 AM
i think gore leads but id say ronnie brown gets a close 2nd...or at least i hope so

awfullyquiet
07-01-2007, 03:35 AM
i wonder if benson even holds his job the entire year

if he's not injured. he's running.
he has the talent. it's not that hard to run behind chicago's OL... jones will know that this year.

gore will take it this year barring injuries.
then CB
then RB
then Caddie.
Poor caddie though.
He's on the sidelines too much anyway. he's a playmaker, he deserves to be on the field.

Caddy
07-01-2007, 03:44 AM
I'm pretty sure it will be Caddy :)

Smooth Criminal
07-01-2007, 08:15 AM
The easy choice says Gore but I think it will be Benson. He will get the starting job and all of the carries and finally be the playmaker the bears drafted him to be.

draftguru151
07-01-2007, 09:32 AM
I think Gore will get it but Benson will be very close. I don't think Gore will get that 5.4 ypc and the loss of Norv Turner will hurt him more than people realize. I think Benson will definitely get the carries and should have the chance to put up 1300+ yards.

Brown should get in the 1200 yard area if Cameron gives him the carries. The line should be much better as a whole if everyone can stay healthy and we don't have new guards every week like last year. The addition of Cory Schlesinger will really help Brown as well.

Caddy should get over 1000 yards if the OL continues to improve, maybe in the 1100 yard area. Him getting hurt is the only thing that should stop him from 1000. Jacobs should get in the 800 yard area.

OhioState
07-01-2007, 11:18 AM
i voted for gore although i am looking forward as to how successfully Benson can take over for TJ.

princefielder28
07-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Frank Gore in a run away

etk
07-01-2007, 01:04 PM
They will all rush for a lot of yards, barring injury, but Gore is the most proven and should get more yardage if he limits his fumbles (more carries). I could see any of them winning, however, based on different circumstances.

MasterShake
07-01-2007, 01:56 PM
I think Gore will get it but Benson will be very close. I don't think Gore will get that 5.4 ypc and the loss of Norv Turner will hurt him more than people realize.

Food for thought.

Gore ran for 4.8 YPC his rookie season for a total of 127 carries for 608 yards.

He did this with a fairly weak and rotating O-line (due to injuries) AND two busted shoulders (which is the reason his carries were limited). Also he did not have Norv as his coordinator that year.

I don't think Gores 5.4 YPC is an anomaly, I think that is just what Gore will put up with a decent O-line and being healthy. I see him hovering around the 5 YPC area for as long as he is healthy, because Nolan has invested heavily in his O-line each of his first 3 seasons.

draftguru151
07-01-2007, 02:11 PM
I can definitely see him getting around 5.0 ypc, I still think he will get a good amount of yard, but San Fransisco will miss Norv Turner unless the new OC does a good job with play calling and scheming. I'm not very familiar with Hostler so he may do a great job, but I still miss Norv calling plays in Miami.

skinzzfan25
07-01-2007, 02:27 PM
I chose Benson.

I believe without Norv, Gore will fall shorter than everybody makes him out to be. The one thing Turner can do somewhat right, is create a well balanced offense. Nobody fears Alex Smith as a legit threat. Thus stacking more in the box. I know Gore has gotten it done like that before, but I question his durability if he's going to be doing that multiple seasons.

Benson has the better Oline, better all around team, and better QB.

MNRunLeft
07-01-2007, 04:00 PM
Benson has the better Oline, better all around team, and better QB.

I actually think that SF will have the better offensive team this season. Yes the Bears have a better offensive line, but SF did improve theirs in the offseason.

When you look at in division teams that both RB's will have to face I think Gore will have a much easier time. Benson has to face the Vikings and that run defense twice a year and Green Bay has also improved their defensive front by adding Hawk last season and Harrell this season through the draft.

Grosman is not a better QB than Alex Smith. Grosman was the least consitant QB in the NFL last season and will have a lot to prove this season if he hopes to keep his job. Smith really improved from his terrible rookie season and theres no reason to think the wont keep improving as the Niners give him more weapons offensively.

HoopsDemon12
07-01-2007, 04:09 PM
who else would even challenge him?

garret wolfe;)

stephenson86
07-01-2007, 05:57 PM
benson will be a red zone monster, he may not get the most yards but i have him down for in the region of 16 - 20 TD's he is a red zone monster

reese
07-01-2007, 06:15 PM
cardsalltheway...u negged me becuz i dont think a guy who was a top 5 pick can hold his job? even tho he has been there for 2 years now and has barely played?

Geo
07-02-2007, 05:06 PM
Benson was second on the depth chart to a veteran 1,000-yard rusher who caught the ball well.

ricky bobby
07-02-2007, 05:36 PM
I went with Benson. He was impressive towards the end of the year last year. They got rid of Jones, Grossman is still Grossman, so you know Benson will get his carries. That's not to say that Gore won't have a great season.

1. Cedric Benson
2. Frank Gore
3. Brandon Jacobs
4. Ronnie Brown
5. Cadillac Williams

San Diego Chicken
07-02-2007, 05:47 PM
I voted for Gore, but I think Benson could have a Larry Johnson in 05 type season. Same situation, power back gets off of a slow start because he was in the doghouse, but then dominates when he inherits the starting job, maybe because of the fresh legs.

doingthisinsteadofwork
07-02-2007, 05:51 PM
Benson.(10)

SFbear
07-02-2007, 06:10 PM
I voted for Gore, but I think Benson could have a Larry Johnson in 05 type season. Same situation, power back gets off of a slow start because he was in the doghouse, but then dominates when he inherits the starting job, maybe because of the fresh legs.

Yeah the parallels are pretty striking especially since Thomas Jones was very similar to a Priest Holmes type of back and was brought in when the Bears were trying to emulate the KC offense. Bears also have an aging yet still solid oline in place.

yo123
07-02-2007, 08:37 PM
Guys dont try to get cute, Gore will have the most yards, Vernon should improve and take some of the pressure off him along with the signing of Darrell Jackson.

In order

1. Gore
2. Benson
3. Brown
4. Williams

reese
07-02-2007, 08:43 PM
did i miss somethin about benson? why is everyone so high on him?

yo123
07-02-2007, 08:47 PM
did i miss somethin about benson? why is everyone so high on him?



No thomas Jones+a ton of talent+good offensive line= good production

reese
07-02-2007, 08:48 PM
No thomas Jones+a ton of talent+good offensive line= good production


oh that must be it..i dont see a ton of talent

yo123
07-02-2007, 08:51 PM
oh that must be it..i dont see a ton of talent



Well, he was the number 5 pick... so obviously someone did. didnt get a lot of touches because of thomas Jones but he produced when given the chance

reese
07-02-2007, 08:54 PM
Well, he was the number 5 pick... so obviously someone did. didnt get a lot of touches because of thomas Jones but he produced when given the chance

u kno i could make an endless list of top 5 picks that never did anything....to me they drafted him to be the started 2 years ago and he never could win the job. they didnt draft him to sit on the bench for 2 years so he must not be as talented as they originally thought...i never have been a fan of him anyway...never really impressed me in college

Krazyone57
07-02-2007, 08:55 PM
*takes a Wild Guess*

Gore http://www.senocular.com/smilies/thumbsup.gif

just because he on my Fantasy....

yo123
07-02-2007, 08:57 PM
u kno i could make an endless list of top 5 picks that never did anything....to me they drafted him to be the started 2 years ago and he never could win the job. they didnt draft him to sit on the bench for 2 years so he must not be as talented as they originally thought...i never have been a fan of him anyway...never really impressed me in college



he didnt impress you in college? He was the 6th all time leading rusher and ran for 1000 yards 4 years straight.

reese
07-02-2007, 08:59 PM
he didnt impress you in college? He was the 6th all time leading rusher and ran for 1000 yards 4 years straight.

i kno his stats...but i actually like to watch football and was never impressd watchin him play

no love
07-03-2007, 12:14 AM
1. Gore he has the same o-line and offense as last year. If the o-line stays healthy this year and with the additions on offense he could have an even better year...
2. Caddy - He had an amazing rookie season. If Garcia can have a decent season, Gruden can utilize him like Charlie Garner. He is perfect for their system.
3. Brown - He may be the most physically gifted, but it's a brand new offense and a weak offensive line. Maybe 5 years from now. But not right now.
4. Benson - He has not shown anything near the production of these other guys, I don't think his instincts are anywhere near Gore or Caddy, he has shown to be impatient and seems to rely to much on his physical abilities.

JK17
07-03-2007, 12:23 AM
1. Frank Gore has to be first, you really can't make an argument otherwise. Well you could, it just wouldn't be that great. Gore's already broken out, and been in league with "the big backs"...the others are still unproven or inconsistnet.

2. Cedric Benson is my second guy. I like his situation and I like his skills. He should be able to get the two spot with a strong commitment to the run game.

3. Ronnie Brown will do a lot better with Cameron calling the plays, and a generally improving offense. Green should be able to do a better job of keeping a balanced attack then Harrington/Culppeper/Lemon could last year, and he's a talented guy.

4. Caddilac Williams. I like him, but I don't know how much the additions to the O-line will translate if he doesn't get the ball at the right times. That said, I wouldn't be suprised to see him as early as second, I think he can do a lot, and would love to see him break out.

bored of education
07-03-2007, 07:11 AM
Benson
Gore
Caddy
brown

Michigan
07-03-2007, 07:27 AM
Benson
Gore
Caddy
brown

agreed. (10)

bored of education
07-03-2007, 07:28 AM
agreed. (10)

The Irony. Nice sig lol

Caddy
07-03-2007, 07:36 AM
Well, he was the number 5 pick... so obviously someone did. didnt get a lot of touches because of thomas Jones but he produced when given the chance

4th pick, not 5th.

BamaFalcon59
07-03-2007, 10:23 AM
Too much Caddy hate. Short memories.

Kid has TALENT. Not saying he will lead all of these players, because I like the others a lot too, but he deserves more credit.

IMO...(rushing)

Frank Gore (10)- 1,100 yards, 5.0 ypc, 7 TD
Has a great season, but is injured for 5-6 games

Cadillac Williams (14)- 1,200 yards, 4.3 ypc, 4 TD
Back to good production with an improved OL, but still has a few injuries and not a big scorer

Ronnie Brown (15)- 1,300 yards, 4.1 ypc, 9 TD
Starts to use his huge potential, but ypc is low due to struggling OL. Becomes a workhorse and piles up numbers.

Cedric Benson (12)- 800 yards, 4.2 ypc, 11 TD
Struggles in his first year. Piles up touchdowns in only 12 games. Not a workhorse yet.

Just gut feelings.

High Roller
07-03-2007, 11:20 AM
Frank the Tank

NY+Giants=NYG
07-03-2007, 11:23 AM
As a darkhorse and a very, long shot, I'd go with Brandon Jacobs for the fun of it. I wonder what the odds of that would be... 100-1?

High Roller
07-03-2007, 11:35 AM
Funny...just noticed 3/4 of the selections were selected in the top 5 and the one winning the vote by a mile was selected in the 3rd. Thank you Nolan!

ricky bobby
07-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Funny...just noticed 3/4 of the selections were selected in the top 5 and the one winning the vote by a mile was selected in the 3rd. Thank you Nolan!
Brandon Jacobs was selected in the 4rth and he's going to be a starter.

49erfanatic
07-03-2007, 11:45 AM
At the risk of sounding like a homer, barring injury Frank Gore will beat out Benson, Caddy, and Brown in rushing. The arguement about his YPC going down i think has already been disproved, but if it hasn't yet try this, Gore rushed for 9.8 yard per carry his freshmen year of college. If it wasn't for a college career filled with injuries, Gore would have been the first back taken. Also, Gore last year ran for nearly 1700 yards behind a banged up offensive line. Larry Allen (the team's best run blocker) missed 5 games, while Jonas Jennings and Eric Heitman each missed three. Not to mention RG Justin Smiley played nearly all year with a torn labrum. Nolan has said that he wants to get Gore 20 to 25 touches a game. After Gore, I'm going to go with Benson at two and Caddy with a close third. These would flip flop if John Gruden wasn't such an idiot. But as it is, Benson is on a better team with a better coach who will actually give Benson the ball. Ronnie Brown is at four. I think Cam Cameron calling plays could actually hurt Brown's rushing totalls. I think there were plenty of chances to get LT more carries last season, which Cameron failed to do (especially in the AFC divisional playoff game against the Pats).

draftguru151
07-03-2007, 12:04 PM
Brandon Jacobs was selected in the 4rth and he's going to be a starter.

Jacobs isn't in the poll. :/

SFbear
07-03-2007, 12:41 PM
Brandon Jacobs was selected in the 4rth and he's going to be a starter.

Isn't he going to be splitting carries with Droughns.

yo123
07-03-2007, 03:19 PM
Isn't he going to be splitting carries with Droughns.



Reuben "3.4 yards per carry" Droughns? Nah, he'll get the same amount of carries a normal backup gets.

23trufant
07-03-2007, 03:35 PM
I think teams are going to focus in alot on Gore this season and make Alex Smith beat them. Ronnie Brown's Oline is sub-par, and Im not a huge fan of Benson though I think he can be solid. So... Im going with Williams.

Shiver
07-03-2007, 05:22 PM
I actually almost took Cedric Benson. I think he will put up 1,400 yards, easily. Gore's injuries made it close, though it's too hard to not pick him.

Geaux Saints
07-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Brandon Jacobs was selected in the 4rth and he's going to be a starter.

Until someone goes at him low and tears his knee off... probly by week 4-5

Sniper
07-04-2007, 04:31 AM
Brandon Jacobs was selected in the 4rth and he's going to be a starter.

Ahead of Reuben Droughns. I'm sure that will be a memorable achievement in Jacobs' career.

ricky bobby
07-04-2007, 08:30 AM
Ahead of Reuben Droughns. I'm sure that will be a memorable achievement in Jacobs' career.
And over whom are the other 4 RBs starting over? Yeah, that's right. Guys nobody has ever heard of.

NY+Giants=NYG
07-06-2007, 10:34 AM
Jacobs isn't in the poll. :/

Yeah but interesting choice of a dark horse candidate. If he manages to get to a significant amoung of carries over Droughns, and does well, who knows he may suprise people. But since he hasn't started a game, he is a long shot bet, but a choice none the less.

TheChampIsHere
07-10-2007, 03:22 AM
you gotta have the smart money on Gore, he was a beast last year and comes back to the same offense and will be the horse again, while Cadillac and Ronnie play behind shaky OLs and Benson is unproven.

BamaFalcon59
07-10-2007, 12:48 PM
And over whom are the other 4 RBs starting over? Yeah, that's right. Guys nobody has ever heard of.

Well, assuming they start...

Maurice Jones Drew- Fred Taylor (Pro-bowler/ 9,500 plus rush yards/ 1,100 rush yards last year/ 64 career TD/ 11,000 plus total yards)

DeAngelo Williams- DeShaun Foster (average runningback. Injury prone.)

Reggie Bush- Deuce McAllister (very good runningback. Good power, deceptive speed. 4 time 1,000 plus yard rusher)

Jerious Norwood- Warrick Dunn (Pro-bowler/ 9,000 plus rush yards/ 1,000 plus rush yards last year/ 13,000 plus career yards/ 58 career TD)

Addai and Maroney have minimal competition, but 3 of the other 4 have pretty good running mates.

neko4
07-10-2007, 04:25 PM
I voted for Caddy, but I know it'll be GOre. When he's healthy Caddy is the 2nd best RB in the class. Brown might have the most all-purpose yards, but Cedric will have more rush yards than Brown

LonghornsLegend
07-10-2007, 05:07 PM
when all are healthy, its hard to put a clear cut #1 as far as physically or talented...alot say Gore, Caddy is hard to not put there as well seeing what he did as a healthy rookie, and brown is very gifted, but most of this relies on the O line, and playcalling each team tends to go with

D-Unit
07-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I'm pretty sure Marshawn Lynch is gonna take it. Watch out NFL, Lynch is gonna blow the place up!!!

Geo
07-24-2007, 01:15 AM
I've been giving this some more thought in the last week or so, and have edited and added to my original post, as follows (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=487829#post487829):

1. Frank Gore - Frank the Tank is the 49ers offense. Touches, all-purpose yards, and touchdowns, he leads the 05 class. The loss of Norv Turner does hurt, but the 49ers doen't seem intent on changing much of what he installed. Plus with the acquisitions on offense at wide receiver (Darrell Jackson, Jason Hill, Ashley Lelie, no Antonio Bryant), budding stud Vernon Davis coming into his second year, and 1st round draft pick Joe Staley likely bumping Kwame "My game has more holes than Swiss Cheese" Harris out of the line-up, Gore might actually see less 8-men-in-the-box looks which he nonetheless managed to overcome in 2006 with flying colors.

2. Ronnie Brown - I originally thought that it might take a year for Brown to explode with Cam Cameron as his offensive coordinator/head coach for the long haul, but I think we see Brown blossom into one of the league's best young backs in 2007. Cameron helped LaDainian Tomlinson for the better his first year in San Diego (and Norv Turner was the OC the year before), the team signed Cory Schlesinger as the fullback, and Brown finally has a starting quarterback he can pair with in Trent Green (even if it only for two more years). Green's not a world-beater, but he's a proven veteran who can run an offense, and you can see the effect he's had on his runningbacks for the last 5 or so years.

3. Cedric Benson - He's finally going to get the carries now that Thomas Jones is removed, and his "struggles" in the passing game weren't as advertised imo - more likely hot air meant to cover up the fact that the defense/locker room favored Jones as their ball-carrier. Well that nonsense is over with, as Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith pulled the trigger on trading away Jones and finally giving Benson the chance to carry the running game on his sturdy shoulders. The NFC North is strong on the defensive line interior though, so that hurts Benson's production a tad.

4. Cadillac Williams - He'll have a better year than last year thankfully, with the offensive line welcoming Luke Petitgout and Aaron Sears as well as a second-year pro Davin Joseph. Jeff Garcia is an upgrade at the QB position by default given, who is at camp and Jake the Snake wisely avoiding the trainwreck that is Jon Gruden, which helps Cadillac a great deal. Gruden, for whatever reason, takes Caddy out of the passing game at times. There may be some difficulty in running the ball though, if the interior of the Falcons, Panthers, and the Saints stay healty. Of course, Cadillac staying healthy is critical, as he's played 14 games in each of his first two seasons.

5. Brandon Jacobs - I'd be more concerned about him holding up for a whole season, especially given his size, than for Reuben Droughns and Ahmad Bradshaw stealing carries. If anything, giving him the full load would ensure that his durability would be tested greatly. So it's not a certainty that he breaks 1K, and if he does I don't think it's by much, but I do think he'll put up a good number of touchdowns if not cracking double-digit scores (so fantasy-wise, I suppose he moves up the list a at least one spot). His yards per carry average (4.4) last season despite still operating as a short-yardage specialist is amazing.

Brent
07-24-2007, 08:49 AM
Yea homerism!

DaBears9654
07-24-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm obviously rooting for Benson, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Gore.