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CC.SD
07-07-2007, 12:39 AM
Former high school football standout and NFL prospect in court
7/6/2007 6:51:06 PM

A former Clemson football star, who was recently drafted to play in the NFL, was in court Friday in Horry County on an assault charge. Lake View native Anthony Waters is charged with hitting a man during a confrontation along an Horry County road.

An arrest warrant says Waters was driving down Nichols Highway Tuesday afternoon, July 3rd, when someone riding in a car in front of him threw a rock at his car, breaking the windshield and causing $350 damage.

The warrant says Colby Sarvis, 18, of Nichols threw the rock.

The court papers say that rock-throwing incident led to a confrontation along the side of the road, where Waters and a friend, Brian Rogers, hit Sarvis on his head and body.

Waters and Rogers are both charged with simple assault and battery.

Sarvis is charged with malicious damage to personal property for throwing the rock.

In magistrate court Friday, all three men - Waters, Rogers and Sarvis - were released on $1,000 bond each.

No trial date has been set for any of the defendants.

Waters was an All-Conference linebacker at Clemson. He graduated this year and was taken in the third round of the NFL draft by the San Diego Chargers.

Waters is scheduled to show up at rookie camp for the Chargers on July 23rd.

The Link:
http://www.wpde.com/news/viewarticle.asp?view=5592

Paul
07-07-2007, 12:44 AM
I don't blame him. Lucky the rock didn't do more damage, that idiot could of caused an accident throwing stuff like that at other cars. He deserved an ass whooping.

islandboy843
07-07-2007, 12:50 AM
I call that Self-Defense.

JF4
07-07-2007, 01:11 AM
I would've beat up that kid too.

simms2clayton
07-07-2007, 03:53 AM
LOL...this is hilairious.

The person that throws the rock at someones car doesn't get in trouble at all...what if the rock hit the windshield and the glass broke and a piece went into Waters'/passengers' eye?

I am disapointed in Anthony...he should have killed the idiot.

Green Bay Scat
07-07-2007, 05:34 AM
who the **** throws a rock at a car? dipshit should get his ass kicked, that could cause an accedent. Id say, let him get his ass kicked by Waters would be a good compensation for his stupidity

Moses
07-07-2007, 06:30 AM
Yeesh, I'm surprised the guy that threw the rock isn't in more trouble. Could easily cause an accident doing something like that.

Ravens1991
07-07-2007, 11:40 AM
That knucklehead was asking to get sent to the emergency room anyway he got what was coming to him.

PalmerToCJ
07-07-2007, 12:07 PM
I have no problem with this one, can't say I blame him.

ATLDirtyBirds
07-07-2007, 12:13 PM
I have no problem with this one, can't say I blame him.


Yeah. I would have done the same thing.

mqtirishfan
07-07-2007, 12:30 PM
LOL...this is hilairious.

The person that throws the rock at someones car doesn't get in trouble at all...what if the rock hit the windshield and the glass broke and a piece went into Waters'/passengers' eye?

I am disapointed in Anthony...he should have killed the idiot.

"Sarvis is charged with malicious damage to personal property for throwing the rock."

ShutDwn
07-07-2007, 12:42 PM
The rock should be viewed as an action endangering Water's life and his actions were self defense.

bored of education
07-07-2007, 02:43 PM
I remember hearing a story about kids throwing rocks at cars and one rock approx the size of a small apple killed someone due to velocity and physics etc

umphrey
07-07-2007, 02:49 PM
"I'm gonna need a lawyer, and you're gonna need a doctor"

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-07-2007, 03:00 PM
Hopefully Goodell is as okay with this as we all are.

JT Jag
07-07-2007, 03:27 PM
Honestly, Waters has a rep to protect. He would have gotten laughed at for years to come in the locker room if he HADN'T whooped that guy's ass.

JetMan
07-07-2007, 03:58 PM
This is complete BS.

This punk throws a rock on a major road and unfortantly hits a football players car instead of some old women or so. And then gets his *ss handed to him rightfully so, then calls the cops for protection and to press charges.

Great country we live in when the innocent are charged for other peoples stupidity. I'll atleast bet that this moron doesn't throw rocks at cars anymore, well he's only 18, I'm sure the rest of us learned at about 3 or 4.

Ravens1991
07-07-2007, 04:15 PM
I remember hearing a story about kids throwing rocks at cars and one rock approx the size of a small apple killed someone due to velocity and physics etc

that is sad. That story makes me sick.

Shere Khan
07-07-2007, 04:32 PM
There was an incident like that here in Ohio where some punk ass kid tossed a huge ass rock over those partitions (which were made precisely for preventing that type of thing) and it hit this guy's windshield, and messed him up pretty bad. He was a preacher too I believe.

I think he's blind now, in addition to other physical damage he sustained.

Hines
07-07-2007, 09:11 PM
i woulda kicked his ass....waters shoulda killed him...i dont blame him...good job waters

mqtirishfan
07-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Honestly, Waters has a rep to protect. He would have gotten laughed at for years to come in the locker room if he HADN'T whooped that guy's ass.


Worst defense of an easily defendable act ever.

MasterShake
07-07-2007, 10:09 PM
A differing, less "awesome" version of the story:

Chargers rookie linebacker Anthony Waters was arrested Friday and is accused of hitting a man with his car after the man threw a rock at him.

The third-round pick from Clemson was allegedly hit "on his head and body" by the victim and another man on the side of the road after Waters drove his car at the two. The rock broke Waters' windshield, according to the police report. Waters and one of the men were charged with assault and battery.


http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/home_NFL.aspx

JT Jag
07-07-2007, 10:24 PM
Honestly, Waters has a rep to protect. He would have gotten laughed at for years to come in the locker room if he HADN'T whooped that guy's ass.Worst defense of an easily defendable act ever.I know, but everything else had been said.

Vikes99ej
07-07-2007, 11:27 PM
I don't like hearing this. I like Waters.

simms2clayton
07-08-2007, 12:11 AM
There was an incident like that here in Ohio where some punk ass kid tossed a huge ass rock over those partitions (which were made precisely for preventing that type of thing) and it hit this guy's windshield, and messed him up pretty bad. He was a preacher too I believe.

I think he's blind now, in addition to other physical damage he sustained.

So? 5 char

TheChampIsHere
07-08-2007, 08:08 AM
yea throwing a rock at a car is some BS and the dude deserved an ass-whooping for it. Probly just some stupid ass kid who just needs to learn a few lessons and what better way than to take a beating from an NFL LB???

But as usual with these things, NFL players have got to be smarter than that. Sure, the dude shouldnta thrown the rock at your car and he deserved what he got but you are NFL player, you have too much to lose and you know the guy is gonna sue you and all kinds of BS when he finds out you are a pro player. You gotta practice more restraint.

Football Fan
07-08-2007, 08:36 AM
Lucky for Waters the kid was 18 not 17, he likely would have gotten an assault on a minor charge and he would have been screwed over worse, because of that idiot.

Hines
07-08-2007, 12:22 PM
idk bout you but the picture on this site in scotts rankings makes me not wanna mess with waters...he looks mean haha

sdpads24
07-08-2007, 12:44 PM
idk bout you but the picture on this site in scotts rankings makes me not wanna mess with waters...he looks mean haha

He talks like a mean guy too. I'm suprised he didn't kill the guy.

Hines
07-08-2007, 12:48 PM
He talks like a mean guy too. I'm suprised he didn't kill the guy.

oh me neither...i know i probably would if i was him

Bills2083
07-08-2007, 04:07 PM
yea throwing a rock at a car is some BS and the dude deserved an ass-whooping for it. Probly just some stupid ass kid who just needs to learn a few lessons and what better way than to take a beating from an NFL LB???

But as usual with these things, NFL players have got to be smarter than that. Sure, the dude shouldnta thrown the rock at your car and he deserved what he got but you are NFL player, you have too much to lose and you know the guy is gonna sue you and all kinds of BS when he finds out you are a pro player. You gotta practice more restraint.

You have the right to defend yourself. If someone throws a rock at your car while your driving, you could become seriously injured, and if you crash, you could injure all those around you. The guy deserves more than an ass-woopin, and I agree with what Waters did here. Hopefully Goodell does too.

TheChampIsHere
07-08-2007, 08:52 PM
You have the right to defend yourself. If someone throws a rock at your car while your driving, you could become seriously injured, and if you crash, you could injure all those around you. The guy deserves more than an ass-woopin, and I agree with what Waters did here. Hopefully Goodell does too.

I dont disagree, he deserved it, and if someone threw a rock at my windshield Id react the same way. But were talking about the whole athletes being held to a higher standard thing here and even though I dont necessarily agree that they should be, as an athlete in this day and age you have to realize you will be and that if you do anything wrong you are a target. Fact is Waters didnt need to go beat this guy up to defend himself, he could have just kept driving and been OK, and the way some of you guys are talking like his life was in mortal danger is not a sensible rationale, he was obviously OK if he immediately ran the kid down and beat his ass. As a pro athlete with as much to lose as he does and everything else that goes along with it, you have to be smart and show restraint in a situation like that where someone tests you. Just because someone deserves an ass-whooping doesnt mean you have to be the one to do it, even though you obviously want to because youre mad...I think you get what my point is....It goes across the board....If youre Pac-Man Jones, you shouldnt go to a strip club at 3 in the morning with thousands of dollars and with an entourage, even if it is legal and hes allowed to do it its just not smart for a man in his position to do it...For all the players who have been caught for petty crimes, the crime is not the big deal IMO when were talking about a marijuana possesion charge or giving a drink to a minor, carrying a pistol, whatever....but as a pro athlete you gotta be a little smarter than that and stop doing some things you used to do, and it aint easy to change your lifestyle like that when its what youre used to, but if you dont it gets harder to stay out of trouble when you become such a high profile person and its not worth the risk anymore.

KILLERSANTA
07-08-2007, 08:59 PM
He should of threw paper back.....Paper always beats rock!

Bills2083
07-08-2007, 10:27 PM
I dont disagree, he deserved it, and if someone threw a rock at my windshield Id react the same way. But were talking about the whole athletes being held to a higher standard thing here and even though I dont necessarily agree that they should be, as an athlete in this day and age you have to realize you will be and that if you do anything wrong you are a target. Fact is Waters didnt need to go beat this guy up to defend himself, he could have just kept driving and been OK, and the way some of you guys are talking like his life was in mortal danger is not a sensible rationale, he was obviously OK if he immediately ran the kid down and beat his ass. As a pro athlete with as much to lose as he does and everything else that goes along with it, you have to be smart and show restraint in a situation like that where someone tests you. Just because someone deserves an ass-whooping doesnt mean you have to be the one to do it, even though you obviously want to because youre mad...I think you get what my point is....It goes across the board....If youre Pac-Man Jones, you shouldnt go to a strip club at 3 in the morning with thousands of dollars and with an entourage, even if it is legal and hes allowed to do it its just not smart for a man in his position to do it...For all the players who have been caught for petty crimes, the crime is not the big deal IMO when were talking about a marijuana possesion charge or giving a drink to a minor, carrying a pistol, whatever....but as a pro athlete you gotta be a little smarter than that and stop doing some things you used to do, and it aint easy to change your lifestyle like that when its what youre used to, but if you dont it gets harder to stay out of trouble when you become such a high profile person and its not worth the risk anymore.

That is completely different from what Waters was doing. Waters was just driving and Pacman was going to a strip club with an entourage at 3:00AM.

Are you saying that Waters shouldn't defend himself, or that the NFL should change their policy of the law?

If the NFL punishes Waters for this, they really need to change the system, because every person in the right mind is going to defend themselves when attacked. It's like a 6th sense.

TheChampIsHere
07-09-2007, 05:41 AM
no, Waters didnt need to go beat the **** out of the guy who a threw a rock at him. It was some punk kid, not a threat to him. The rock hit the windshield, he was fine, he coulda drove off, or chased down the kid and then called the police or something along those lines. But what it came down to was he was pissed that the kid had thrown a rock at him and shattered his windshield (as he rightly should be) and he had a strong urge to go beat the dudes ass and thats what he did. The fact that you are trying to call it self-defense is laughable. Yeah, he was justified to do it, but he was in no danger, he did it because he wanted to get the guy back for throwing a rock at his car. Now, he has to deal with the consequences, because hes an NFL player and this is going to be more scrutinized than it should be. The guy is gonna try to sue him, the NFL is gonna look into it, he could face a suspension, the Chargers could end up cutting him. How is it similar to Pac-Man? Well, theres nothing really wrong in itself with going to the strip club at 3AM with an entourage but he has to understand that being the player he is, trouble is likely to come, if anything goes down the press is gonna be all over it, people are gonna want to connect him to it for various reasons. And stuff went down and he has to deal with the consequences, suspension, possibly being traded, loss of money, etc....No, the situations are not the same, but there are similarities, but the point is a lot of NFL players do things that arent so terrible (going to strip clubs at late night, beating up a dude who throws a rock at you, smoking weed, public intoxication, etc etc, and the point is its not horrible things theyre doing but the way things are, **** is gonna come down on them when they get in any kind of trouble, so they have to show restraint and hold back from what seems like reasonable behavior if they can get in trouble for it cuz when you are a pro player it just aint worth it.

ks_perfection
07-09-2007, 10:29 AM
Im sure self-defense is what his lawyer will argue it was. That he had to do something because he didn't know if the guy would keep throwing more rocks at him.

CC.SD
07-09-2007, 10:29 AM
no, Waters didnt need to go beat the **** out of the guy who a threw a rock at him. It was some punk kid, not a threat to him. The rock hit the windshield, he was fine, he coulda drove off, or chased down the kid and then called the police or something along those lines. But what it came down to was he was pissed that the kid had thrown a rock at him and shattered his windshield (as he rightly should be) and he had a strong urge to go beat the dudes ass and thats what he did. The fact that you are trying to call it self-defense is laughable. Yeah, he was justified to do it, but he was in no danger, he did it because he wanted to get the guy back for throwing a rock at his car. Now, he has to deal with the consequences, because hes an NFL player and this is going to be more scrutinized than it should be. The guy is gonna try to sue him, the NFL is gonna look into it, he could face a suspension, the Chargers could end up cutting him. How is it similar to Pac-Man? Well, theres nothing really wrong in itself with going to the strip club at 3AM with an entourage but he has to understand that being the player he is, trouble is likely to come, if anything goes down the press is gonna be all over it, people are gonna want to connect him to it for various reasons. And stuff went down and he has to deal with the consequences, suspension, possibly being traded, loss of money, etc....No, the situations are not the same, but there are similarities, but the point is a lot of NFL players do things that arent so terrible (going to strip clubs at late night, beating up a dude who throws a rock at you, smoking weed, public intoxication, etc etc, and the point is its not horrible things theyre doing but the way things are, **** is gonna come down on them when they get in any kind of trouble, so they have to show restraint and hold back from what seems like reasonable behavior if they can get in trouble for it cuz when you are a pro player it just aint worth it.

What kind of Raider fan are you?

LionSmack
07-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Not saying Waters wasn't justified but let's get one thing straight.

Self-defense is when someone is trying to injure you and you injure them in the direct process of trying to stop it.

Someone throws a rock at you or your car, it hits you, then after that's over with you chase them down and hit them back, that's not self-defense, it's retaliation.

Again, did the kid deserve it? Hell yes. But Waters will not be able to argue self-defense.

Man_Of_Steel
07-09-2007, 12:10 PM
If you instigate a fight with Waters your an idiot.

TheChampIsHere
07-10-2007, 01:26 AM
What kind of Raider fan are you?


lol...the truth is I dont care if a player beats up a dude who beats up someone who throws rocks at him or goes to strip clubs or smokes weed but Goodell is cracking down on it hard and when you are a pro athlete youve got a target on your chest and its just stupid to put yourself in those situations.

Lionsmack, well put. I dont disagree that he retalliated but in no way is any judge or any rational person gonna buy self defense for this case, it was clearly retalliation.

nobodyinparticular
07-10-2007, 02:18 AM
You have the right to defend yourself. If someone throws a rock at your car while your driving, you could become seriously injured, and if you crash, you could injure all those around you. The guy deserves more than an ass-woopin, and I agree with what Waters did here. Hopefully Goodell does too.

I love the insights of all the 15 year olds.

Yes, in the law, you have the right to defend yourself. But that is only as long as there is a danger or "perceived" danger to yourself. When that danger passes, it is then assault. I.E. You cannot "get even" with a guy after a passing moment such as the rock being thrown at the windshield. After the rock was thrown, the danger passed. It's just the same way that someone will get charged for 2nd degree murder when the confrontation started out in self-defense.

Example 1: You are walking down the street, you pass a dark alley. A guy jumps you and pulls you into the alley. You, the giant 6'7 280 15 year old football player that you are, take the guy easily. You throw him against the wall, rendering him unconscious. The threat has passed. Yet out of anger you continue to beat the poor man to a bloody pulp, finishing him off with a curb stomp or two. That will get you quite a few years in prison. If you walk away when he is unconscious, you are fine, but right when you pass that point, you are assaulting him.

Example 2: You are walking down the street and you pass the same dark alley. The same guy jumps you, but instead of throwing him against a brick wall, you bring the bricks to him--your fists. Heavy punch after heavy punch, but he's still fighting back. Finally you deliver a nasty right hook that would make Rocky Balboa jealous and you knock him out. But he is suffering from internal bleeding and dies from injuries sustained in the fight. But the whole time he was fighting against you. The DA may try to come with a manslaughter charge against you, but any 2-bit lawyer could get the charges dismissed. Why? Because he was still attacking you, thus you had a right to defend yourself.

In Waters' case, there was no danger past the initial incident of throwing the rock. Because of that, Waters had better hope he gets a nice signing bonus to pay his lawyer fees. Otherwise he could be looking at some real time in jail.

CC.SD
07-14-2007, 03:22 PM
I love the insights of all the 15 year olds.

Yes, in the law, you have the right to defend yourself. But that is only as long as there is a danger or "perceived" danger to yourself. When that danger passes, it is then assault. I.E. You cannot "get even" with a guy after a passing moment such as the rock being thrown at the windshield. After the rock was thrown, the danger passed. It's just the same way that someone will get charged for 2nd degree murder when the confrontation started out in self-defense.

Example 1: You are walking down the street, you pass a dark alley. A guy jumps you and pulls you into the alley. You, the giant 6'7 280 15 year old football player that you are, take the guy easily. You throw him against the wall, rendering him unconscious. The threat has passed. Yet out of anger you continue to beat the poor man to a bloody pulp, finishing him off with a curb stomp or two. That will get you quite a few years in prison. If you walk away when he is unconscious, you are fine, but right when you pass that point, you are assaulting him.

Example 2: You are walking down the street and you pass the same dark alley. The same guy jumps you, but instead of throwing him against a brick wall, you bring the bricks to him--your fists. Heavy punch after heavy punch, but he's still fighting back. Finally you deliver a nasty right hook that would make Rocky Balboa jealous and you knock him out. But he is suffering from internal bleeding and dies from injuries sustained in the fight. But the whole time he was fighting against you. The DA may try to come with a manslaughter charge against you, but any 2-bit lawyer could get the charges dismissed. Why? Because he was still attacking you, thus you had a right to defend yourself.

In Waters' case, there was no danger past the initial incident of throwing the rock. Because of that, Waters had better hope he gets a nice signing bonus to pay his lawyer fees. Otherwise he could be looking at some real time in jail.

No judge is going to throw someone in jail because a drunk guy threw a rock at a moving car, and he hit him for it. ESPECIALLY not a professional athlete, you know how these things work.

myinnerself
07-15-2007, 12:39 PM
I just think it's funny that that kid absolutely picked the WORST guy to throw a rock at. Can you imagine how scared the kid was when Waters stepped out of the car? Holy crap.

locseti
07-15-2007, 01:24 PM
I woulda bap'd him too.