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Acreboy
07-08-2007, 01:05 AM
What do you think?

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/positional-rankings/OFF/

Flyboy
07-08-2007, 01:06 AM
Some I agree with, some make me larf. Like most of these lists.

islandboy843
07-08-2007, 01:19 AM
No Tommie Harris at DT. Wow

YAYareaRB
07-08-2007, 01:20 AM
Yessss. Frank Gore #3 RB!

GB12
07-08-2007, 01:21 AM
Why not just do 6 instead of 5 and "next best"? makes no sense I tell ya.

Fred Taylor at :confused:

EdReedUnstoppable
07-08-2007, 01:24 AM
Prisco's rankings are pretty terrible especially his TE and WR rankings. Call me a homer but how do you not have Todd Heap in a rankings of the Top 6 TE's? And what is Andre Johnson doing at #2, where is Roy Williams, where is TERRELL OWENS!?

EdReedUnstoppable
07-08-2007, 01:26 AM
No Tommie Harris at DT. Wow

Prisco didn't do the defensive rankings, but they suck just as bad. I love Dawan Landry and I think if he continues to play at the level he did last year that he will definitely be a Top 5 safety but to put him at #4 ahead of Troy Polamalu is insane.

Clark Judge did the defensive rankings.

nobodyinparticular
07-08-2007, 01:30 AM
Dunta Robinson??? Wow.

ncstateviking
07-08-2007, 01:32 AM
ive said many times polamalu is rediculously overrated.

vilma was too high. i dont even know that he is a top 5 in a 3/4. but he doesnt deserve to be #2 until he performs this season. WR are so deep...if you only pick 5...there will be a few "how are so and so not on the list" no matter who the picks were.

Acreboy
07-08-2007, 01:32 AM
where is TERRELL OWENS!?Dropping the most passes in the NFL?

ChampBailey24
07-08-2007, 01:34 AM
I don't even need to say this, but I can't help myself:

Pete Prisco is one of the worst journalists of all time, dating back to caveman journalism.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 01:53 AM
Steven Jackson at #4?

Ben Watson over Todd Heap?

Where in the blue hell is Terrell Suggs?

Hines
07-08-2007, 02:13 AM
willie is better then fred taylor

casey hampton should be in the top 5 or 6

and troy should be number three at the lowest


but this is me bein a homer

LarryJohnson27
07-08-2007, 02:24 AM
Dawan Landry in front of Polamalu and Bob Sanders?

ChampBailey24
07-08-2007, 02:27 AM
Dawan Landry in front of Polamalu and Bob Sanders?

Yeah, the list is messed. I think Judge just went by who he was most attracted to, and thought he might be able to land a date with some guys by ranking them higher.

familyguy555
07-08-2007, 02:27 AM
Hey Prisco I just heard of this WR named ROY WILLIAMS! Hes better than Andre Johnson

kmartin575
07-08-2007, 03:18 AM
Alex Brown is good but is he top 6 good? I don't think so. Guys like Jared Allen, Derrick Burgess, Robert Mathis, Charles Grant, etc. deserve to be on there over him.

I also despise how 3-4 OLB's get all the glory. The fact that the top 4 OLB's are 3-4 OLB's is rediculous. I will take Julian Peterson over Shaun Phillips anyday. I think 3-4 OLB's should be ranked separately because they really have a completely different job than 4-3 OLB's. Of course a 4-3 OLB isn't going to put up as good of sack totals because they do not rush the passer almost every play like 3-4 OLB's do.

kmartin575
07-08-2007, 03:19 AM
Hey Prisco I just heard of this WR named ROY WILLIAMS! Hes better than Andre Johnson

I disagree. Give me Andre Johnson anyday.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 03:19 AM
Dawan Landry in front of Polamalu and Bob Sanders?

Well Dawan did have a better season then them, but its tough to put a 2nd year player ahead of them.

EdReedUnstoppable
07-08-2007, 03:28 AM
Dropping the most passes in the NFL?

13 TDs, and still had amazing stats even with those Drops......has Andre Johnson ever had 13 TDs nope in fact he has only had 17 in 4 years, TO caught less passes and still had more yards than Andre.

EdReedUnstoppable
07-08-2007, 03:29 AM
Steven Jackson at #4?

Ben Watson over Todd Heap?

Where in the blue hell is Terrell Suggs?

And for 2 years in a row now Bart Scott has been awesome where is he at? And why is Trevor Pryce ranked along with DTs?

Acreboy
07-08-2007, 06:46 AM
I disagree. Give me Andre Johnson anyday.No way is Johnson better than Roy Williams.

Williams dominates games like no one else. Williams is the best WR in the league IMO.

ATLDirtyBirds
07-08-2007, 07:32 AM
Some I agree with, some make me larf. Like most of these lists.


Exactly my thoughts as well.

stephenson86
07-08-2007, 09:44 AM
where is chris hope?

keylime_5
07-08-2007, 10:34 AM
I guess he forgot about Orlando Pace. And I guess he forgot how many sacks Walter Jones gave up last year too.

russie
07-08-2007, 10:35 AM
I don't even need to say this, but I can't help myself:

Pete Prisco is one of the worst journalists of all time, dating back to caveman journalism.

Len Pasquarelli is just as bad. i think the sports media world would be better off if these two jag bags just retired

BamaFalcon59
07-08-2007, 11:10 AM
Fred Taylor at 5 ??

Larry Fitzgerald is overrated. Roy Williams or Anquan Boldin, please.

Shockey over Crumpler is something I will always debate...

Where is Zach Thomas at MLB??

Shawn Phillips? WTF??? All he can do is pass rush. Keith Brooking (now a MLB, but they do have Seymour at DT), Lance Briggs, Bullock, AJ Hawk, Darrick Brooks, Derrick Johnson, etc etc...

DeAngelo Hall at CB? I know some disagree, but you are wrong. lol. McAlister is past his prime and Clements would have been no better than 5-7 before signing that huge contract.

Dawan doesn't belong, yet.

JETS5128
07-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many second year players. If someone only plays one year how can they be a top five player. Mcneil is too high, Mangold is too high, Landry is too high

PalmerToCJ
07-08-2007, 11:43 AM
Fred Taylor at 5????
I'm not sure Jeremi Johnson should be top 5 because really I don't pay attention to other teams FB's but he is better than Greg Jones that I'm sure of. Johnson can block, catch and run.

Steve Smith is the #1 WR, not #4. I have no idea how Andre Johnson is #2, what has he done to deserve a spot over Smith, Harrison and Holt?

The Bengals should have one tackle in the top 6, Levi when he's healthy is easy.

Not sure why Landry is that high, especially over Kerry Rhodes.

skinzzfan25
07-08-2007, 11:59 AM
No Cooley (not surprised, nobody gives him any credit)

Sean Taylor is at least top 6

No Randy Thomas at tackle.... wdf

Portis is better than Fred Taylor, but Westbrook should be above both of them. Taylor shouldn't even be on this list.

ChampBailey24
07-08-2007, 11:59 AM
Len Pasquarelli is just as bad. i think the sports media world would be better off if these two jag bags just retired

I will say one thing about Prisco that is positive, however...

Even if I get hit in the head by something, suffer some major brain trauma, and become braindead, I could still support myself by writing for sportsline, and possibly even steal Prisco's job.

Smokey Joe
07-08-2007, 12:01 PM
those are horrible? Gore at no. 3, Steven Jackson is the 3rd best back in football? And Taylor!?!?!?! The Defense is all bad. wow.

Hines
07-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Fred Taylor at 5????
I'm not sure Jeremi Johnson should be top 5 because really I don't pay attention to other teams FB's but he is better than Greg Jones that I'm sure of. Johnson can block, catch and run.

Steve Smith is the #1 WR, not #4. I have no idea how Andre Johnson is #2, what has he done to deserve a spot over Smith, Harrison and Holt?

The Bengals should have one tackle in the top 6, Levi when he's healthy is easy.

Not sure why Landry is that high, especially over Kerry Rhodes.



i think the only reason why he has andre johnson number 2 is that he may be thinkin if he had a consistant line and qb then he will be puttin up monster numbers and people would think hes good...i mean he is goood with a whole bunch of physical tools that teams like and what i like but hes not a game changer like smith...if he would be on this list he should be at like 6, not two

VY10
07-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Sorry for all you haters out there but Andre Johnson is awesome and I would take him over Roy Williams any day. (And I'm a horns fan and love roy williams)

And I agree with Dunta Robinson too. He's our only legit guy in the secondary and I've seen him make some sweet plays.

Of course Demeco is awesome too.

russie
07-08-2007, 12:14 PM
I will say one thing about Prisco that is positive, however...

Even if I get hit in the head by something, suffer some major brain trauma, and become braindead, I could still support myself by writing for sportsline, and possibly even steal Prisco's job.

worst part is prisco is their senior writer, and alot of len's stuff is their insider stuff you have to pay for

XxXdragonXxX
07-08-2007, 12:15 PM
Ummmm....

Fred Taylor over Shaun Alexander....or how about Brian Westbrook.....I don't think he's even the best RB on his own team, Maurice Drew.


WTF?

Ravens1991
07-08-2007, 12:24 PM
did Walter Jones have a sucky season compared to his usual? I dont get a ton of Seattle games but I remember hearing that.

Dawan is way to high.

I am shocked to see Shaun Phillips on there I wasnt expecting him.

Ravens1991
07-08-2007, 12:24 PM
Ummmm....

Fred Taylor over Shaun Alexander....or how about Brian Westbrook.....I don't think he's even the best RB on his own team, Maurice Drew.


WTF?

Probably because Alexander injury he was not listed

Hines
07-08-2007, 12:24 PM
im thinking on making a top 6 team

i bet its better then his...who wants to help me

XxXdragonXxX
07-08-2007, 12:27 PM
did Walter Jones have a sucky season compared to his usual? I dont get a ton of Seattle games but I remember hearing that.

Dawan is way to high.

I am shocked to see Shaun Phillips on there I wasnt expecting him.

Yes, he did have a crappy season compared to his usual.....however, he was the only guy on the Seahawks line that started all 16 games at the same position. And he was playing with high ankle sprain, as well as knee and shoulder injuries that required offseason surgery. Lack of continuity on the line and injuries certainly played a part in his worse than normal play.

XxXdragonXxX
07-08-2007, 12:28 PM
Probably because Alexander injury he was not listed


But still, there are a bunch of guys that are better than Taylor.

Hines
07-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Yes, he did have a crappy season compared to his usual.....however, he was the only guy on the Seahawks line that started all 16 games at the same position. And he was playing with high ankle sprain, as well as knee and shoulder injuries that required offseason surgery. Lack of continuity on the line and injuries certainly played a part in his worse than normal play.

while pace,odgen,and jones should be on there,i dont think they should be that hight anymore since they are being close to retiring and losing a step...the young guns should be taking over soon..but in the prime,i would take all three over anyone..

Mr. Stiller
07-08-2007, 12:48 PM
I'd Argue that:

Wille Parker is a Top 5 RB, better than Fred Taylor, or Gore.
Todd Heap > Winslow, Crumpler, Watson.
Faneca > Mankins, Waters, Dielman. Even at 30.
Casey Hampton is tied for best NT with Jamal Williams. Should get some rep here.
Troy Polamalu, at worst is the #3 Safety in the league, and #1 SS. Bad season or not, they put a lot of guys with bad seasons in the rankings.

Things I'm Glad about:

Kreider actually getting some recognition.. though he's a one trick pony and thats why he's only #4

Next year Prisco will be talking about Heath Miller as a top 5 TE.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 01:14 PM
I'd Argue that:

Wille Parker is a Top 5 RB, better than Fred Taylor, or Gore.
Todd Heap > Winslow, Crumpler, Watson.
Faneca > Mankins, Waters, Dielman. Even at 30.
Casey Hampton is tied for best NT with Jamal Williams. Should get some rep here.
Troy Polamalu, at worst is the #3 Safety in the league, and #1 SS. Bad season or not, they put a lot of guys with bad seasons in the rankings.

Things I'm Glad about:

Kreider actually getting some recognition.. though he's a one trick pony and thats why he's only #4

Next year Prisco will be talking about Heath Miller as a top 5 TE.

Not likely, he's not as dynamic as a Heap, Shockey, Winslow, Gates, etc....

Yung Flippa
07-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Where is Terell Suggs & Todd Heap?

BaLLiN
07-08-2007, 01:55 PM
No Mack Strong at FB, Westbrook should be #5 RB and Parker or Addai at #6, Roy Williams should be in the top 6 for WRs, DeAngelo Hall should be #4 CB

For the most part it looks like he just looked at the pro bowl rosters.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 01:58 PM
Where is Terell Suggs & Todd Heap?

Personally I think CBS Sportsline hates Arizona State............

Mr. Stiller
07-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Not likely, he's not as dynamic as a Heap, Shockey, Winslow, Gates, etc....

With Arians new scheme it's very possible he could. I'm not saying he's a shoe in. Winslow still has to prove himself to me.

Gates/Gonzalez are the two he has to beat out.

Last season he wasn't granted the opportunity to be a dual-threat because our OLine sucked. With Spaeth, He'll be allowed to be a receiver more often and he could very well make the pro-bowl.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeff&id=2924356

PACKmanN
07-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Fred Taylor over Clinton Portis lol.

Smooth Criminal
07-08-2007, 02:58 PM
These rankings are based almost soley on what the players did last year. Otherwise there would be no way that you could ever consider putting a guy like Dawan Landry about Pro Bowl safeties.

Smooth Criminal
07-08-2007, 03:02 PM
Heath Miller could have a huge year. We have seen him make so big plays and we have been hearing about him being used as a reciever more. I don't know about top 5 in the league because there are still guys like Gates, Gonzo, Shockey, Heap, and Crumpler that have been good for many years but I think Miller will be top 10 in most people's minds by the end of the season.

cardsalltheway
07-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Well Dawan did have a better season then them, but its tough to put a 2nd year player ahead of them.

I sure hope he'd have a better season than a guy who only played in four regular season games.

Hines
07-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Heath Miller could have a huge year. We have seen him make so big plays and we have been hearing about him being used as a reciever more. I don't know about top 5 in the league because there are still guys like Gates, Gonzo, Shockey, Heap, and Crumpler that have been good for many years but I think Miller will be top 10 in most people's minds by the end of the season.

even though he hasnt been used much,i think he is a top 10 in peoples minds...all he lacks is speed,if he had that hed be top 5..hes a heap clone imo

Shiver
07-08-2007, 03:08 PM
Pete Prisco's mancrush on Fred Taylor is almost as bad as Jason Whitlock's mancrush for Jeff George.

PalmerToCJ
07-08-2007, 03:53 PM
I would really really like to hear him justify at least putting Landry over Kerry Rhodes... Rhodes put up better numbers with a much lesser supporting cast.

princefielder28
07-08-2007, 03:58 PM
Fred Talor as the 5th best back?????

Good to see Kampman get some props

Average OT LB
07-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Pete Prisco's mancrush on Fred Taylor is almost as bad as Jason Whitlock's mancrush for Jeff George.

the fred taylor thing was quite the shock, what a silly name to throw up there. As for jason whitlock, Jeff george isnt the only mancrush he has, donnie edwards is one of his favorites as well...

TitleTown088
07-08-2007, 04:15 PM
The fact that Pete Prisco ranks himself in the top 5.7 billion people on planet earth makes this list unreliable.

255979119
07-08-2007, 04:17 PM
Doesn't Prisco's father run CBS Sportsline?

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Notables missing from lists:

Clinton Portis - Yes, he was hurt for most of last season, but he's better than Fred Taylor (then again, that's just Prisco showing the Jags homer in himself).
Jeff Saturday - Seriously, not a Top 5 C?
Orlando Pace - Again, hurt last year, but arguably the best active LT of the past decade (Roaf is retired now).
Aaron Schobel - He's always overlooked. At the very least, he's better than Will Smith and Alex Brown.
Tommie Harris - Seymour should be listed at DE, and at the very least, he's vastly superior to Trevor Pryce, who also plays mostly DE.
Zach Thomas - I'd take him at least for next year over Pierce at least, probably Vilma too given the scheme he's trapped in, which doesn't suit him at all.
Asante Samuel - Better than any of the last 3 CBs listed. (including "Next Best")
Bob Sanders - Better than any of the last 4 Ss listed. (including "Next Best")

TitleTown088
07-08-2007, 04:22 PM
Doesn't Prisco's father run CBS Sportsline?

No, I'm pretty sure he runs Hades.

255979119
07-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Notables missing from lists:

Clinton Portis - Yes, he was hurt for most of last season, but he's better than Fred Taylor (then again, that's just Prisco showing the Jags homer in himself).
Jeff Saturday - Seriously, not a Top 5 C?
Orlando Pace - Again, hurt last year, but arguably the best active LT of the past decade (Roaf is retired now).
Aaron Schobel - He's always overlooked. At the very least, he's better than Will Smith and Alex Brown.
Tommie Harris - Seymour should be listed at DE, and at the very least, he's vastly superior to Trevor Pryce, who also plays mostly DE.
Zach Thomas - I'd take him at least for next year over Pierce at least, probably Vilma too given the scheme he's trapped in, which doesn't suit him at all.
Asante Samuel - Better than any of the last 3 CBs listed. (including "Next Best")
Bob Sanders - Better than any of the last 4 Ss listed. (including "Next Best")

Sanders is better than Landry

Saturday IMO is the best center in the league

I agree with what you said about Harris and Seymour

Thomas never gets any credit

Samuel is good but not top 5 yet. I was looking for Nnamdi Asomugha over Dunta.

yodabear
07-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Steven Jackson at #4?

Ben Watson over Todd Heap?

Where in the blue hell is Terrell Suggs?

That is where he should be. I agree with the top 4, but Taylor should not be on the top 5 running backs. Alexander should be #5. 3 of the top 5 running backs in the NFL are in the NFC west in my book.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 04:47 PM
That is where he should be. I agree with the top 4, but Taylor should not be on the top 5 running backs. Alexander should be #5. 3 of the top 5 running backs in the NFL are in the NFC west in my book.

Steven Jackson > Frank Gore

Its not a contest, Jackson is a dual threat ala the mold of Roger Craig and Marshall Faulk.

255979119
07-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Any RB with Jackson's size, power and hands should be behind only LT.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 04:55 PM
Notables missing from lists:

Clinton Portis - Yes, he was hurt for most of last season, but he's better than Fred Taylor (then again, that's just Prisco showing the Jags homer in himself).
Jeff Saturday - Seriously, not a Top 5 C?
Orlando Pace - Again, hurt last year, but arguably the best active LT of the past decade (Roaf is retired now).
Aaron Schobel - He's always overlooked. At the very least, he's better than Will Smith and Alex Brown.
Tommie Harris - Seymour should be listed at DE, and at the very least, he's vastly superior to Trevor Pryce, who also plays mostly DE.
Zach Thomas - I'd take him at least for next year over Pierce at least, probably Vilma too given the scheme he's trapped in, which doesn't suit him at all.
Asante Samuel - Better than any of the last 3 CBs listed. (including "Next Best")
Bob Sanders - Better than any of the last 4 Ss listed. (including "Next Best")

Portis - is becoming injury plagued since leaving Denver, so him being left out is reasonable.

Saturday - probably should be top 3 but may be a product of that system so hence his exclusion. Realistically he should be there.

Pace - missed most of the season and that was a determining factor in the list.

Schobel - plays for a bad team, that will always hurt you.

Harris - again hurt for a portion of the season, see Pace reasoning.

Thomas - he isn't Jason Taylor, so no one in the media knows him.

Samual - good corner, top 10, but can be exploited easily at times.

Sanders - again stay healthy then he can be mention.

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Sanders is better than Landry

At least. I'd have him ahead of everyone but Reed and Dawkins. I'm a fan of Wilson, but no one else on that list turned a mediocre defense into a championship defense merely by their presence alone. I think Reed and Dawkins could, but they've yet to have the oppurtunity to prove it.

Saturday IMO is the best center in the league

I agree, but I can also see the case for Kreutz. Still, I can't see a legit reason to rank him lower than 2.

Thomas never gets any credit

I agree, but the 4 listed ahead of Pierce are equal to or better then him IMO.

Samuel is good but not top 5 yet. I was looking for Nnamdi Asomugha over Dunta.

I think you're selling Samuel a bit short, but Scrabble is another name that belongs on the list.

yodabear
07-08-2007, 05:01 PM
Any RB with Jackson's size, power and hands should be behind only LT.

Nah, LJ is in front of him. U can flip-flop Jackson and Gore, and either way I wouldn't have a problem, I am a Rams after all. But he is defntly in the top 4 with LT, LJ, and Gore.

255979119
07-08-2007, 05:03 PM
Nah, LJ is in front of him. U can flip-flop Jackson and Gore, and either way I wouldn't have a problem, I am a Rams after all. But he is defntly in the top 4 with LT, LJ, and Gore.

LJ does not have the versatility of Jackson. LJ is probably the best pure runner in the league though.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 05:09 PM
LJ does not have the versatility of Jackson. LJ is probably the best pure runner in the league though.

True, but he also could be the next Jamal Anderson with the workload he's been carrying.

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Portis - is becoming injury plagued since leaving Denver, so him being left out is reasonable.

Other than last year, he played 31 of a possible 32 games for the Redskins, so where you're getting injury prone from is a mystery.

Pace - missed most of the season and that was a determining factor in the list.

Prior to that, he was one of the most reliable and best LTs in the NFL for nearly a decade.

Schobel - plays for a bad team, that will always hurt you.

That doesn't make him any less of a player or my point any less valid.

Harris - again hurt for a portion of the season, see Pace reasoning.

He's still the best UT in the NFL. Kris Jenkins doesn't deserve to be on the list because of injuries. Harris missed 7 games including the playoffs due to injury last year. That's not a valid reason to leave him off IMO.

Samuel - good corner, top 10, but can be exploited easily at times.

Exploited easily? No more than some of the CBs on the list. Rashean Mathis, for example, is quite prone to playing overagressively and getting burned as a result.

Sanders - again stay healthy then he can be mention.

He raised the level of play on his defense from mediocre to championship caliber merely by his presence in the lineup. That, IMO, makes him a Top 5 safety at least.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 05:20 PM
Other than last year, he played 31 of a possible 32 games for the Redskins, so where you're getting injury prone from is a mystery.



Prior to that, he was one of the most reliable and best LTs in the NFL for nearly a decade.



That doesn't make him any less of a player or my point any less valid.



He's still the best UT in the NFL. Kris Jenkins doesn't deserve to be on the list because of injuries. Harris missed 7 games including the playoffs due to injury last year. That's not a valid reason to leave him off IMO.



Exploited easily? No more than some of the CBs on the list. Rashean Mathis, for example, is quite prone to playing overagressively and getting burned as a result.



He raised the level of play on his defense from mediocre to championship caliber merely by his presence in the lineup. That, IMO, makes him a Top 5 safety at least.


And your opinion, and mine for that matter, means dick when this list was made.

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 05:32 PM
And your opinion, and mine for that matter, means dick when this list was made.

Well if that's the attitude you have, why did you even bother to respond to my first post?

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 05:34 PM
Well if that's the attitude you have, why did you even bother to respond to my first post?

Because I stated my reasons, then you rebutted them and so on and so on. Instead of getting into a heated debate about it I choose to just end it before it got out of hand.

Smooth Criminal
07-08-2007, 05:40 PM
The fact that Landry is on ther above guys like Sanders, Polamalu, and Taylor is just sickening. He played one season on a team stacked with defenders. I'll take a guy like Sanders who completely revitalized his defense, a guy like Polamalu that has been great for several years, and a guy like Taylor who has also been a great safety for years, over a guy with one season under his belt.

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Because I stated my reasons, then you rebutted them and so on and so on. Instead of getting into a heated debate about it I choose to just end it before it got out of hand.

I still don't understand why you made the original post if you didn't want a debate, but whatever. Consider it dropped.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 05:51 PM
I still don't understand why you made the original post if you didn't want a debate, but whatever. Consider it dropped.

I made the post and stated my reasons, and that was it, I was done. Its an obviously flawed list to begin with so arguing over it makes no sense at all so hence my hesitance to debate/argue over it.

XxXdragonXxX
07-08-2007, 06:52 PM
No Mack Strong at FB


I actually agree with him not ranking Mack. He was not very good at all last year, he'll be losing snaps to Leonard Weaver on 3rd downs this year.


I did however just notice that he left Julian Peterson off his OLB list...

yo123
07-08-2007, 06:59 PM
I cant believe im looking at Fred Taylor with a #5 next to his name.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 07:09 PM
I cant believe im looking at Fred Taylor with a #5 next to his name.

It is still 2007 right?

Hines
07-08-2007, 07:11 PM
I actually agree with him not ranking Mack. He was not very good at all last year, he'll be losing snaps to Leonard Weaver on 3rd downs this year.


I did however just notice that he left Julian Peterson off his OLB list...

but still mack is one of the best


and peterson is left off probably cuz hes injury prone,if he wasnt then he would be number 2 or 3

Dam8610
07-08-2007, 07:13 PM
I made the post and stated my reasons, and that was it, I was done. Its an obviously flawed list to begin with so arguing over it makes no sense at all so hence my hesitance to debate/argue over it.

You disagreed with my opinion, gave your opinion as to why, but then didn't expect a debate to start? Odd.

skinzzfan25
07-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Portis - is becoming injury plagued since leaving Denver, so him being left out is reasonable.

How is he injury plagued? Besides the shoulder incident, and a little wear and tear he hasn't been hurt at all. Missed one game the first two season in Washington. He has sore knees from time to time, but with the offseason he will be fresh.

yo123
07-08-2007, 07:15 PM
How is he injury plagued? Besides the shoulder incident, and a little wear and tear he hasn't been hurt at all. Missed one game the first two season in Washington. He has sore knees from time to time, but with the offseason he will be fresh.


Hes played 16 games in 2 of his 5 years. He's injury prone.

BigDawg819
07-08-2007, 07:22 PM
You disagreed with my opinion, gave your opinion as to why, but then didn't expect a debate to start? Odd.

Actually read what I type; I stated my opinion and that was it. Plain and simple. I knew a debate was coming and bowed out of it before it started because I knew it would eventually end badly or someone would try to keep picking to start an argument, which you seem to be trying to do with me. Its a ridiculously biased and laughable list at various positions and to argue over it is pointless!

The Unseen
07-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Pete Prisco's mancrush on Fred Taylor is almost as bad as Jason Whitlock's mancrush for Jeff George.

Yeah...

Prisco embarrasses me sometimes, being that he pumps a bunch of Jags alot of the time, sometimes unwarranted (as you see here).

Vikes99ej
07-08-2007, 08:45 PM
DT rankings are absolutely fantastic.

XxXdragonXxX
07-08-2007, 10:18 PM
but still mack is one of the best


and peterson is left off probably cuz hes injury prone,if he wasnt then he would be number 2 or 3

Fred Taylor is injury prone, so is Donovan McNabb, that didn't keep them off the list.

Personally I don't see Peterson being injury prone anyway. He had 1 major injury, othe than that he's played 13, 14, 16, 16, 15 and 16 games the rest of his career.

bearsfan_51
07-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Haha...Alex Brown is the 6th best DE in the league, but is losing his starting position. But Tommie Harris isn't a top 6 DT and Trevor Pryce is?

People get paid to write this ********?

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Hes played 16 games in 2 of his 5 years. He's injury prone.

And before last year, in his other seasons he played 13 and 15. So injury prone.

Ravens1991
07-09-2007, 10:51 AM
my guess for Pace and Harris not being on the list is because they missed a good portion of the season, because Harris deserves to be higher then Pryce.