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The Linebacker
03-02-2011, 10:38 AM
had one more Mock, discussed it with my good friend and kinda created this one...
1. Cam Jordon, DT/DE
2. Martez Wilson, ILB
3. Andy Dalton, QB
4. Curtis Marsh, CB
4. Kris O'Dowd, C
5. Nate Irving, LB
6. Shiloh Keo, SS
7. Josh Thomas, CB
Generally speaking, I think we load up on corner to get the best players out there. We get the 2nd SS to make Greene have to compete. 2 LB's to upgrade the position, Dalton QBotF, O'Dowd to address aging interior, Jordan bc he is a beast.
Unbiased
03-02-2011, 03:22 PM
I really dislike Wilson and O'Dowd. The rest are very solid football players and Marsh is kind of boom/bust. I don't understand, though, the idea of getting a SS to compete with Greene while letting Carey rot at FS.
The Linebacker
03-02-2011, 05:23 PM
Let me clarify. I think Greene can be a solid free safety if we get the FS situation cleared up. So why pick up another SS? Mel Tucker has already stated they want to play a more aggressive defense, with more press (I think that's what I heard in the interview). There are 2 corner backs in the mock. The general idea I had is this, pick the best 3 DB's in general and put them out there. I think Tucker wants to have the true roving FS, which I think most corner can accomplish and I think he wants the SS to press the attack. This is obviously speculation, but its what I think. The reason for another SS is that, like the QB situation when Leftwich and Garrard dueled, the better of the 2 players will play, and I think Greene has another level, which will only help the secondary. There's no way Carey starts back there again.
Also, this mock could drastically change if the CBA gets done before the draft.
Finally, what's wrong with Wilson? I think he could grow into the MLB spot and make the middle of the defense extremely strong. He seems to be a downhill player.
I admit, I put O'Dowd there bc I was just trying to fill the spot and a Center looked good.
SilentJaguar
03-02-2011, 10:55 PM
Wilson's probably more of an SAM than a real 4-3 MIKE.
The Linebacker
03-03-2011, 11:13 AM
And why do you think that? He's got the size to engage the point, the speed to flow sideline to sidelines, good enough tackling skills and flows downhill. I think he would be a perfect MLB. Also, you want size in the middle, because, well, thats where its biggest.
SilentJaguar
03-03-2011, 03:12 PM
He gets washed too easy and lets blockers get into his body too much. Love his size, but if you can't get off blocks, you shouldn't be a MIKE.
The Linebacker
03-03-2011, 07:00 PM
If thats true, then its an extremely valid point. MLB will have to deal w/ OLmen much more frequently. Also, this applies to every LB, they cannot over pursue and get knocked out of the play. This will be something I have to look at. Potentially, he could still be an OLB, for the sheer fact that Daryl is a beast wherever he lines up.
Unbiased
03-04-2011, 01:33 PM
And why do you think that? He's got the size to engage the point, the speed to flow sideline to sidelines, good enough tackling skills and flows downhill. I think he would be a perfect MLB. Also, you want size in the middle, because, well, thats where its biggest.
I don't see many positives other than triangle numbers. Give me the guy who doesn't have the triangle numbers but is a better football player (Greg Jones).
The Linebacker
03-04-2011, 02:55 PM
True, true. Haven't heard much about him (Wilson) either. I wouldn't hate on Greg Jones either. I'm just getting more and more of a feeling that GM Gene is gonna go to left field for this one. Potentially stocking up on corners and letting them duke it out, with the FS coming from that group. Same with LB.
GatorsBullsFan
04-04-2011, 12:49 PM
My Jags Mock Draft:
(16) DE Cameron Jordan
(49) OLB Bruce Carter
(80) QB Andy Dalton
(114) C Stefen Wisniewski
(121) S Tyler Sash
(147) CB Shareece Wright
(182) S Jeron Johnson
Unbiased
04-20-2011, 12:57 AM
My Jags Mock Draft:
(16) DE Cameron Jordan
(49) OLB Bruce Carter
(80) QB Andy Dalton
(114) C Stefen Wisniewski
(121) S Tyler Sash
(147) CB Shareece Wright
(182) S Jeron Johnson
I came here to post my mock sometime before the draft but I want to quote this too, becase I like it a lot. But for my last mock...
1.16 Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State 6'2" 225
2.17 Mason Foster, OLB, Washington 6'1" 245
3.16 Greg Jones, MLB, Michigan State 6' 245
4.17 Mark LeGree, FS, Appalachian State 6' 210
4.24 Jeron Johnson SS, Boise State 5'10" 200
5.16 Cliff Matthews, DE, South Carolina 6'4" 260
6.17 Anthony Gray, DT, Southern Miss 6' 330
The Linebacker
04-21-2011, 12:32 PM
1.16 -- Cameron Jordon, DE, California, 6-4⅛ 287
2.17 -- Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada, 6-4⅝ 233
3.16 -- Greg Jones, LB, Michigan St., 6-⅛ 242
4.17 -- Curtis Marsh, CB, Utah St., 6-0½ 197
4.24 -- John Moffitt, OG, Wisconsin, 6-4¼ 319
5.16 -- Mana Silva, S, Hawaii, 6-1 206
6.17 -- Mario Harvey, LB, Marshall, 5-11 250
or
1.16 -- Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida, 6-5 303
2.17 -- Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh, 6-2⅞ 264
3.16 -- Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho, 6-4⅛ 240
4.17 -- Davon House, CB, New Mexico St., 6-0½ 200
4.24 -- Colin McCarthy, LB, Miami (FL), 6-1⅜ 238
5.16 -- Tyler Beiler, WR, Bridgewater, 6-1 185
6.17 -- Rod Isaac, CB, MTSU, 5-11 196
GatorsBullsFan
04-22-2011, 10:00 AM
First off we'll never draft Jabaal Sheard for the arrest he had and since Gene Smith is so big on Character.
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/18/1576115/pitt-defensive-end-jabaal-sheard-arrested
Linebacker I like your first mock more than your second. Unbiased I like your mock a lot except Im not sure about Anthony Gray in the 6th. Gene Smith in the last few years has seemed to find playmakers in those later rounds like Jennings, Deji Karim, and Zach Miller. I just think he strives in those rounds and Gray seems like a wasted pick. Linebacker I think your first mock is exactly the value that Gene would find in the later rounds even though Im not sure it would be those same people because it always seems to be small school guys except for Jennings. Take the 5th and 6th off your second mock and put them on your first and that could be exactly our draft.
The Linebacker
04-25-2011, 05:56 PM
I had no idea about Sheard. Good find. Here's my final mock.
1.16 -- Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada, 6-4⅝ 233 (or Jordan, Kerrigan, Locker or Ponder)
2.17 -- Rodney Hudson, OG, FSU, 6-2⅜ 299 (or Hankerson, Dalton, Foster, Moore)
3.16 -- Greg Jones, LB, Michigan St., 6-⅛ 242 (or Jurrell Casey, Edmund Gates, Legree)
4.17 -- Marc Schiechl, DE, Colorado School of Mines, 6-2.2 252 (or Devlin, Cecil Shorts, Marsh)
4.24 -- Colin McCarthy, LB, Miami (FL), 6-1⅜ 238 (Enderle, Rackley, Nate Irving, Davon House)
5.16 -- Mana Silva, S, Hawaii, 6-1 206 (or Anthony Gaitor, Julius Thomas, Lindsey-Woods)
6.17 -- Tyler Beiler, WR, Bridgewater, 6-1 185 (or Lester Jean, Mario Harvey, Josh Thomas)
The Linebacker
04-25-2011, 06:12 PM
I had to copy you GBF, put my final mock in my sig.
GatorsBullsFan
04-25-2011, 07:02 PM
I truly believe we could get Kaepernick with our 2nd round pick and I would hate to skip the chance of getting a premiere pass rusher by reaching for someone I believe we could get with our second round pick
The Linebacker
04-26-2011, 03:27 PM
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Kaepernick currently is a 1st round talent. The ceiling is immense and the base is pretty high already. While I would love the chance to get him in the 2nd, it won't happen in the 2nd for the Jags.
GatorsBullsFan
04-27-2011, 08:34 AM
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Kaepernick currently is a 1st round talent. The ceiling is immense and the base is pretty high already. While I would love the chance to get him in the 2nd, it won't happen in the 2nd for the Jags.
If just three QBs go in the first I still think there would be 2 QBs that go ahead of Kaepernick....I don't think 3 QBs will go in the second round before our pick..
Newton/Gabbert/ and Locker or Ponder will go in the first...I don't think both will go in the first.
So it leaves Locker or Ponder and Dalton going in the second before our pick....I think Kaepernick will be there in the second.
I do love your Greg Jones pick though. I think not taking a DE higher 4.17 in this draft would be a bad thing considering all the talent at DE at the top of this draft.
GatorsBullsFan
04-28-2011, 11:54 PM
Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
New Jaguars Quarterback
http://www.jaguars.com/news/images/t.aspx?Image=/news/images/660x394/10020.jpg&size=367
The Linebacker
04-29-2011, 01:07 AM
Wow, well, I was half right. A QB in the first. To be honest, I didn't even think of Gabbert or so any research on him because I just assumed he wouldn't be available for the Jags.
GatorsBullsFan
04-30-2011, 08:57 AM
So who would of thought by day 3 the Jags still haven't drafted a defensive player?
DoughBoy
05-01-2011, 09:58 AM
You bastards give Rod Issac back right now! Truly though this guy can turn into a very good pick for you guys. Big hitter, size, speed, physical, good tackler... really you could tell he was leaps and bounds better than anyone else on the field for MTSU. Won alot of match ups against Jerrel Jernigan too.
GatorsBullsFan
05-01-2011, 10:08 AM
You bastards give Rod Issac back right now! Truly though this guy can turn into a very good pick for you guys. Big hitter, size, speed, physical, good tackler... really you could tell he was leaps and bounds better than anyone else on the field for MTSU. Won alot of match ups against Jerrel Jernigan too.
I hope so I hadn't heard much about him. I think our whole draft could be a huge eye opener for the rest of the football world that Gene Smith knows what he is doing
GatorsBullsFan
05-04-2011, 02:00 PM
New Blaine Gabbert sig looks AWESOME!!!!
Aurawolf
05-05-2011, 11:13 PM
The guy I am interested in seeing on the field is the Safety from Wyoming, Chris Prosinski, if you get a chance look him up on youtube there is some game tape of the guy, talk about fast.
GatorsBullsFan
05-06-2011, 03:01 PM
People underestimate small school players too much and our GM Gene Smith takes full advantage of that
Unbiased
05-15-2011, 07:16 PM
The guy I am interested in seeing on the field is the Safety from Wyoming, Chris Prosinski, if you get a chance look him up on youtube there is some game tape of the guy, talk about fast.
Yeah, I was really surprised by how good his tape was against Tennessee. I'm really liking all 5 of these draft picks. Interested to see if we make any moves in free agency.
Unbiased
06-18-2011, 12:42 PM
So it's been a while since anyone has posted. What does everyone think of free agency for us? It sounds like Weddle is Gene's #1 target. Morrison sounds likely to come back. Leaving a hole at WLB. Maybe someone like McIntosh from the Redskins. Any thoughts?
GatorsBullsFan
07-20-2011, 03:34 PM
Its tough to say where we'll go at LB..I could truthfully see Durant and Morrison gone and have 2 completely different LBs in there
Unbiased
07-25-2011, 08:23 PM
Okay, now that we're less than a week away, I'm thinking we'll sign/resign:
Adam Podlesh P
Kirk Morrison MLB
Paul Posluszny WLB
Eric Weddle FS
I wouldn't be surprised at a WR like Santana Moss, a DE, or a SS like Quentin Mikell either.
Sounds like we'll be really active according to Peter King.
GatorsBullsFan
07-26-2011, 08:45 AM
Jags Undrafted FAs:
WR Armon Binns 6-3 209 Cincinnati
OT Cameron Bradfield 6-4 302 Grand Valley State
CB Cole Brodie 5-10 188 South Dakota State
LB JoJo Dickson 6-1 245 Idaho
WR Greg Ellingson6-3 197 Florida International
S Matt Estrada 5-10 196 Northern Arizona
TE Tommy Gallarda 6-5 262 Boise State
LB Eric Gordon 6-0 225 Michigan State
G Brandon Harper 6-2 320 Duke
RB DuJuan Harris 5-7 197 Troy
CB T.J. Heath 6-0 179 Jacksonville State
WR Dontrelle Inman 6-3 198 Virginia
CB Jalil Johnson 5-10 184 Jackson State
LB Michael Lockley 6-1 237 Florida Atlantic
LB Scott Lutrus 6-3 241 Connecticut
TE Kyle Miller 6-5 257 Mount Union
RB Richard Murphy 6-1 208 Louisiana State
WR Jamar Newsome 6-1 201 Central Florida
DE Odrick Ray 6-4 276 Tulsa
QB Scott Riddle 6-0 211 Elon
CB Kevin Rutland 6-0 188 Missouri
P Brian Saunders 6-0 203 Virginia Tech
DE Marc Schiechl 6-2 252 Colorado School of Mines
G Troy White 6-5 300 West Virginia Tech
princefielder28
07-26-2011, 08:53 AM
love the signing of Schiechl for you guys!
Aurawolf
07-26-2011, 10:50 PM
Well sounds like we fixed part of the linebackers with Posluszny, now the question is does Morrison stay and we move him to the outside, can he even play outside? Wouldn't be suprised to see us add another lber before FA is over but hope safety is the next thing we target.
GatorsBullsFan
07-27-2011, 09:27 AM
Well sounds like we fixed part of the linebackers with Posluszny, now the question is does Morrison stay and we move him to the outside, can he even play outside? Wouldn't be suprised to see us add another lber before FA is over but hope safety is the next thing we target.
Well Im thinking were going to grab another LB and a Safety
Unbiased
07-28-2011, 08:25 AM
Podlesh agrees to sign with the Bears. He got a lot of criticism his 1st 3 years for being a 4th round pick as a punter but he really improved tremendously last year. There was really nothing to gain by letting him go. Gene has done a great job adding guys like Mike Thomas, Kassim Osgood, Deji Karim, and Scotty McGee. now we just opened up a floodwall on special teams.
Still hoping we finish off the defense though.
Unbiased
07-28-2011, 02:41 PM
Linebackers are fixed. Interested to see what we do in the secondary. Now that they're done with Session, I wonder if the Dawan Landry talks will pick up.
GatorsBullsFan
07-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Report: Jaguars Agree to Terms With Blaine Gabbert
So almost all of our rookies are signed except Rackley I think
Unbiased
07-28-2011, 06:50 PM
Report: Jaguars Agree to Terms With Blaine Gabbert
So almost all of our rookies are signed except Rackley I think
jaguars.com said in the gabbert article that rackley just signed too.
Unbiased
08-03-2011, 10:15 AM
Can't wait until preseason games start. I don't live near Jacksonville, so I'll get to see Gabbert play on tv against Atlanta. Also want to see how the DEs and WRs play. I think we'll learn a ton about those two positions after this year. We could either be totally set or we could have to get a lot of replacements. Up in the air at this point.
Aurawolf
08-11-2011, 10:43 PM
I am with holding judgement until the next preseason game. If we don't see some improvement this is going to be a long season.
Unbiased
08-19-2011, 02:41 PM
I'm recording the game tonight. I'll watch live and then play it back and take notes. Want to see your guys' thoughts as well.
Aurawolf
08-19-2011, 10:54 PM
Well I have to say it was nice seeing a Kampmanless D-line put that kind of pressure on a good Oline like Atlanta. Ryan looked hurried out there alot during the first quater. To the bad our Oline is just bad, we need Britton back because a tackle dummy is better then Whimp. We might have a legit series of wideouts with Hill, Thomas and Shorts and of course David is still David.
Unbiased
08-21-2011, 07:29 PM
Alualu and Mincey played great. Blaine and David struggled. David just keeps reminding me why I'm so sick of him. The miscommunication between Poz and Coleman on that long TD sucks but I guess things like that will happen with new players and it's better to get it out in preseason.
Unbiased
08-21-2011, 07:57 PM
Here's a quick preseason mock. I mainly wanted to do this to figure out which players I should keep an eye out for this year in CFB. I'll just say 8-8 again, not necessarily a prediction, just to keep it basic.
1.16 Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas 6'5" 271
- Probably Roth's replacement and then a long term replacement for Kampman
2.16 Ben Jones, C, Georgia 6'3" 315
- Meester's replacement. Spitz can remain a backup
3.16 Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana 6'3" 210
- Replacement for Mathis. He'll be 32 next year, don't think he gets resigned.
4.16 Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State 6'5" 220
- Adds a new dimension to the WR corps. Nice big target for Gabbert
5.16 David Pickard, OT, Southern Illinois 6'5" 306
- It's critical that we get a swing tackle for next year
6.16 Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, DT, Baylor 6'2" 335
- Backup for Knighton. The more fresh bodies we can rotate in our d-line, the more effective everyone can be.
7.16 Brian McNally, DE, New Hampshire 6'3" 266
- Just another guy up front
SolidGold
09-06-2011, 02:08 PM
Are they releasing Garrard today?
murdamal86
09-13-2011, 10:56 AM
It wasn't pretty but i'll take 1-0 over 0-1
Unbiased
09-19-2011, 02:20 PM
That game was ugly. If the defense wasn't field goals, it would have been even uglier.
I'd expect Gabbert to get the start on Sunday at Carolina, but we'll see.
JagWired32
09-30-2011, 12:33 PM
Should be interesting to see how our defense plays against a top flight offense like New Orleans. We better let Gabbert air it out too.
Unbiased
10-04-2011, 01:43 PM
So I'll finally be able to see a game on tv this week. (I live in Ohio). I really hope Kampman plays. If he does, Whitworth will be a big test for him.
GatorsBullsFan
10-10-2011, 08:29 AM
Here's a quick preseason mock. I mainly wanted to do this to figure out which players I should keep an eye out for this year in CFB. I'll just say 8-8 again, not necessarily a prediction, just to keep it basic.
1.16 Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas 6'5" 271
- Probably Roth's replacement and then a long term replacement for Kampman
2.16 Ben Jones, C, Georgia 6'3" 315
- Meester's replacement. Spitz can remain a backup
3.16 Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana 6'3" 210
- Replacement for Mathis. He'll be 32 next year, don't think he gets resigned.
4.16 Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State 6'5" 220
- Adds a new dimension to the WR corps. Nice big target for Gabbert
5.16 David Pickard, OT, Southern Illinois 6'5" 306
- It's critical that we get a swing tackle for next year
6.16 Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, DT, Baylor 6'2" 335
- Backup for Knighton. The more fresh bodies we can rotate in our d-line, the more effective everyone can be.
7.16 Brian McNally, DE, New Hampshire 6'3" 266
- Just another guy up front
Definitely going to need to change that around now
Unbiased
10-10-2011, 03:14 PM
Yeah no kidding. I do mocks all the time before class starts. I should post one just to get my sanity back.
Unbiased
10-10-2011, 10:02 PM
Okay, here's my updated mock, because I'm in "Watch Blaine grow up" mode right now.
Free Agency:
Mario Williams - Just a dream, but he'd obviously be our featured defender. Kampman gets the boot.
Brandon Carr - Replacement for Mathis
Robert Meachem - Solid #2 who is actually built to play on the outside.
Draft:
1. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina - Bookend to Mario, last piece of the D-line.
2. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers - #1 receiver for Gabbert. Plays extremely tough.
3. Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State - Big right guard. Nwaneri and Rackley will compete for LG and C spots. I think Britton will head back to RT.
4. Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin - Good backup for Gabbert. I think Gene's the type to trust Gabbert enough to avoid a veteran backup.
5. Traded to NYJ for Lowery
6. Bryan Anger, P, Cal - Should replace whoever we sign this week after we cut Turk.
7. Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State - Provides more depth at LB since we're only carrying 5 at the moment.
murdamal86
10-13-2011, 02:35 PM
There's no way to take us serious if we don't take a WR in the first round. It's so obvious that we need to address that position (along with DE)
GatorsBullsFan
10-16-2011, 10:12 AM
There's no way to take us serious if we don't take a WR in the first round. It's so obvious that we need to address that position (along with DE)
Its so tough taking WRs in the first round...its so hard to predict...Plus I think Gene has had the better luck with the D-Line. I think we could get just as good of a WR in the second round
GatorsBullsFan
10-16-2011, 10:14 AM
We could have a top 3 pick this year...would be the first time in a long time
Unbiased
10-16-2011, 07:03 PM
We're going to get embarrassed on Monday Night Football next week.
GatorsBullsFan
10-18-2011, 10:22 AM
We're going to get embarrassed on Monday Night Football next week.
It will be fun to watch...Gabbert will show the world watch
JagWired32
10-20-2011, 10:07 PM
Im pumped as well. I hope Gabbert continues to improve like he has been each week. I want him to show that we have something special down here, because we do. I hope MSW has a big game for Gabbert's sake.
JagWired32
10-20-2011, 10:09 PM
There's no way to take us serious if we don't take a WR in the first round. It's so obvious that we need to address that position (along with DE)
Dude, this draft has some nice WR's. I agree that WR is a huge need, but i think Sanu would be pretty good and we could pickup another solid guy in FA like Meachem like he stated. We need to get a stud DE, this team is lacking that big time.
GatorsBullsFan
10-22-2011, 10:11 AM
WR and DE seem to be the big ones and depth at O-Line
We're going to get embarrassed on Monday Night Football next week.
Likely. But I do think Sims-Walker will help our chances. He's a decent redzone threat. And we've been struggling to score when we've gotten down near there. Blaine needs a guy who he can throw it up to and can go up and fight for it. Walker has showed he can be that guy for us in the not so distant past. Maybe he can step for us.
WR and DE seem to be the big ones and depth at O-Line
WR - Do doubt. We need a playmaker on the outside that other teams will respect.
DE - I like Mincey, Chick, and Roth (all of them have played well for us). I think Lane is a decent backup. I'm still not sure about Kampman's future with us. But my guess is he won't be able to return to his former self. So I could see us targeting a DE at some point in the draft.
O-Line - We'll probably look to add veteran depth through free agency. Someone to compete with our current guys. But I wouldn't rule out us drafting a guy either.
JagWired32
10-22-2011, 05:04 PM
Likely. But I do think Sims-Walker will help our chances. He's a decent redzone threat. And we've been struggling to score when we've gotten down near there. Blaine needs a guy who he can throw it up to and can go up and fight for it. Walker has showed he can be that guy for us in the not so distant past. Maybe he can step for us.
I think he will step up and be a solid part of our passing offense early. He has good size, and when he tries he is a very good WR. With him getting cut from St. Louis, it should wake him up a bit.
Dallas357
10-25-2011, 09:13 PM
what's so bad about our defensive ends? teal glasses are on, but I like mincey and chick with kampman
we really have a shot at getting mario? He'd come here? i know we have the money.
mario, blackmon, corner in the 2nd. omg! omg! omg!
Unbiased
10-26-2011, 09:08 AM
If you're talking about my mock, it's just an ideal scenario for me. I have no reason to think we'll get Mario. It's just wishful thinking. But I do think we need to get a young DE in there, especially if they want to continue using Kampman in a limited role. I don't want to resign Roth. Mincey will get a nice multi-year deal and Chick will continue being the DPR.
JagWired32
10-29-2011, 02:40 PM
I hope we sign Mincey long-term and he gets a solid deal, he deserves it, he makes our line look alot better and is pretty solid against the run and gets pressure when he is in.
We really need to get a top DE like ive said, i obviously want a WR with our 1st, but if there is a good DE there and we would have to reach for a WR, id rather take that DE.
JagWired32
10-30-2011, 10:36 AM
Gameday! Huge game today for us, we win and we are back in the playoff race, we lose, and more than likely we are out of it.
murdamal86
11-03-2011, 11:30 AM
And then we do THAT against he Texans. Team is hard to watch but I think next year we should be close to a 10 win team
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 07:16 PM
Hullo peoples. Since the season is out of reach, I'm starting to get back into the mock draft mode. I'll be posting a roster breakdown shortly with my top 5 perceived needs to open it.
RWills
12-03-2011, 07:45 PM
Obviously WR is a clear need and Gene Smith will probably pass on both Floyd and Blackmon...so someone like Sandu, Randle(LSU) or Kendall Wright in round 2.
Round 1...Claiborne, Couples or trade down
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 08:15 PM
Not a bad initial impression. I don't know if he'll definitely pass on Blackmon, but definitely Floyd.
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 08:29 PM
*double post* Can't figure out how to delete this.
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 08:32 PM
Wuzzup guys. I've been zoned out on the whole draft scene since the season started but I'm ready to get back into it. Here's my take.
Order of Needs
1. WR
2. CB
3. DE
4. OG/C
5. Everything else
Here's a site you guys can look at to determine the Jags draft spot. http://www.fannation.com/users/view_user_profile/800490 . Just scroll down and look on the left of the screen. He has a SoS article he does every week. Currently he has the Jags drafting 4th. I could get "better" (draft higher) or "worse" (draft lower). I tend to think it'll probably stay about the same. With that in mind, here's my break down of the roster.
Methodology – Position, prognosis, draft need on a 1-9 scale, 1 being DIRE NEED, 9 being no way.
QB – Gabbert, McCown, LeFevour
Observations – Gabbert has all of the tools, he just lacks extensive experience. People seem to forget that he just turned 22, came out as a true junior and only had 2 years of starting experience under his belt. We were told when he was drafted that he was a project that needed a year to sit and learn. Its obvious that he needs practice and reps. Increase the talent around him (line and receiver play) and he will get better. I tend to think he's thinking to much, less than he's scared. He has the chance to still be something special. McCown will be here next year, maybe. Whoever is the new coach will determine that. If the offensive scheme changes greatly, we could see a change in the veteran backup. LeFevour is a nonfactor. He'll get a chance to show something to the GM Gene at practice, maybe get himself a practice squad spot.
Prognosis – Gabbert will be given the reigns next year, without question. A veteran will be here, whether its McCown or another veteran that fits the new coaching staff's offensive style.
Draft need – 6
RB – Jones-Drew, Jennings, Karim, Harris, Murphy
Observations – Well, MoJo is the offense this season and even though he just got paid, they should pay him again. Jennings absence is so glaring that it hurts. Having him back will be huge. Karim has utterly disappointed this year. No kick return wow moments and he loses yards on runs waaaaay to often. His screen passes aren't bad though. Looks timid. Harris has a chance to really show what he's got for the remainder of the season, as he was elevated to the 53-man roster by Interim HC Tucker because of how well he has been practicing. He's in direct competition with Karim. Murphy showed well during the preseason, so we'll see how he comes back from injury. He's got a legitimate chance to make the roster.
Prognosis –The run game, which has been good this year, will benefit from Jennings return. The rest of the squad will come from those already on the team.
Draft need – 8
FB – Jones, Owens, Bolen
Observations – Jones is blocking on a Pro Bowl level, after this week, I fully expect MoJo to be #1 in the NFL in yards. If the offense changes to a more spread out offense, Jones could potentially get the axe, as, at this point, he is just a blocker. Owens is a Pro Bowl ST player and provides good occasional RB presence when needed (better than Karim). Bolen could be the heir to Jones if Jones ever gets released.
Prognosis – Great group. No need here.
Draft need – 9
TE – Lewis, Miller, Potter, Onobun, Cloherty, Rucker
Observations – Lewis has really, well, sucked this year. He spent too much time chopping and kicking and too little time catching. Having Gabbert's lasers thrown at him probably didn't help either, but I count at least 5 dropped TD's this year. He needs to refocus, he's still good though. Miller, the injured man. He needs to get himself healthy and stay that way. He's shown flashes as a play maker, but again, its injuries. The rest of the guys are fills ins. Potter a blocker, don't know anything about the other three besides that they are journeymen at best.
Prognosis – Lewis needs to refocus and Miller needs to get healthy, if both come to fruition, this is a strong group, otherwise someone to push Lewis wouldn't hurt.
Draft need – 5
WR – Thomas, Dillard, Shorts, West, Osgood, Robiskie, Sims-Walker, Zachery, Charly
Observations – Thomas has had a very average season so far, but still he has been the best out there. Dillard is playing pretty well. I've always loved his ability and think he's in for big things now that he is in the starting line-up. Shorts had his first catch this past week and I think his problems generally stem from the competition jump and lack of repetitions. He's got talent and will probably improve big time down the stretch. West has flashed, but not enough, he'll be fighting for a roster spot. Osgood is a ST ace, but offers nothing more, he'll probably stick around, seeing as how much ST suffered when he and Owens were injured. Robiskie did nothing before he landed on IR, so, he'll have to probe himself. MSW was waived/injured this week, but I think that he could be brought back next year at a veteran minimum. I don't have any info on Zachery and Charly, though that probably doesn't matter.
Prognosis – This group will get much better with an offseason, without question, but it needs a #1 and a speedster. Thomas, Dillard and Shorts will be the core of the WR group going into the future. Change will come here, through FA and the Draft.
Draft need – 1
OT – Monroe, Britton, Bradfield, Whimper, Baldridge, Haslam
Observations – Monroe started off a little shaky, but has been solid all year. Britton has been injured all year, Bradfield filled in admirably during the Steelers game and has a legit shot to make it as the #1 backup. The only thing holding Bradfield back is lack of reps/experience at RT. He'll battle Haslam for the #1 OT backup spot. Whimper has been a revolving door, he's gone next year. Baldridge has something you can't teach, size. He has a chance to compete.
Prognosis – Monroe is playing well. It all hinges on Britton's health. A back injury is a tough injury to overcome, especially for a big man, so there's some real worry here. If he's healthy, this is a strong group next year, stronger than this year. *EDIT* Britton's IR reason was due to a surgery infection, not a more seriously hurt back, great news, he should be back next year *EDIT* Bradfield could be the next Collier.
Draft need – 3 if Britton is done. 7 if Britton is healthy.
OG – Nwaneri, Rackley, Spitz, Bussey
Observations – Nwaneri has been solid this year and will either be a starting guard or the starting center next year. Rackley started off horribly, but has gotten much better as the season has gone on, he'll be a starter next year. Spitz has been hurt on and off all year, we'll see what happens with him, he could be kept around for veteran depth. Bussey is a PS player.
Prognosis – Rackley will start, Nwaneri will start, but it could be at C. A guard will be drafted I think. This group will be better next year.
Draft need – 5
C – Meester, Estes
Observations – Meester has been solid all year and this might be his best year in the last few. Still, though, he is getting older and the Jags need to have an idea as to who is replacing him in the future. Estes has been around for a while, but I think that Nwaneri is replacing him down the line.
Prognosis – Meester is playing well, even at his age. If Estes isn't the future, Nwaneri is, if Nwaneri stays at G, a C will be drafted.
Draft need – 6
DT – Knighton, Alualu, Collins, Mosley, Douzable, Irvin, Smith
Observations – Knighton is a Pro Bowl caliber player and when he got hurt (for the first time in his football career), the center of the defense suffered. Alualu is a good DT, but has struggled with a knee injury since last year. I tend to think he'll have a clean up procedure during the offseason in an attempt to get him up to 100%. Collins and Mosley offer good depth as run stuffers and Douzable has the versatility to play all along the line (Mincey-ish). Irvin was decent at Georgia and he'll have a chance to compete. Smith has been on IR for two years. He was compared to Alualu, so if he could ever become healthy, there's a chance he could still crack the top 4 DT rotation, there's also cause for concern that he could be done. Smith's health could change the draft need.
Prognosis – Very, very good group. If the Jags selected another high end DT, I wouldn't complain. The group needs its Meier (great compliment to Stroud, Henderson).
Draft need – 6
DE – Mincey, Chick, Kampman, Roth, Selvie, Morgan, Lane, Schiechl
Observations – Mincey has exploded this year and deserves a contract extension. He's pure hard work. Mincey can also switch to DT on pass rush situations, giving him ultimate versatility. Chick was a great PS find and looks to be the DPR the Jaguars have always been looking for. Kampman could be done, but his attitude is so good, who knows. Roth was a surprise this year and should have a good chance of making the roster next year. Selvie is a late season acquisition and I haven't seen much out of him, he could fight for a spot next year. Morgan flashed last year but needs to increase his size in order to offer more versatility. Lane will be in the running for a starting DE spot next year, he showed improvement during the offseason. Schiechl is a small school talent who was placed on IR to protect him (almost certain), that year in an NFL training program should help him compete for a spot next year.
Prognosis – Lots of hard workers here, however, there is no premier pass rusher here. Next year a premier pass rusher could be drafted or found in free agency, but I doubt the latter.
Draft need – 3
LB – Smith, Posluszny, Session, Allen, Bosworth, Lockley, Bentley, Franklin
Observations –
Prognosis – Smith is awesome, has been for years. His play is even better with competent teammates. Poz has been the MLB missing since Peterson, maybe even better. Session, once he got healthy and started becoming comfortable with the system, made plays. He's a hitter. Allen is the all-around backup, very average though. Lockley has a chance to improve and end up climbing the backup depth chart. Bosworth is a decent player who can't stay healthy. Bentley and Frankling are in the running for next year.
Draft need – 5
CB – Mathis, Cox, Middleton, Coleman, Youboty, Rutland, Heath, Trent, Isaac
Observations – Mathis was have his best season in years, but is on IR. Cox really came on this season, but is also on IR. Middleton played well in his stint as a starter, but is also on IR. Youboty was a midseason pickup and has a good game against the Texans. We'll see how he does down the stretch. Coleman is the starting nickelback and has been great in that role. He has a chance to make next year's squad. Heath and Rutland are UDFA's, but the team seems to be high on Rutland, who's actually gotten some decent PT. He'll start this week vs. the Chargers, so we'll see. Isaac went onto IR and didn't really show anything. Trent is a nonfactor.
Prognosis – The injuries are a concern, but could end up helping the Jags in the long run. Mathis could have lost his market value after a knee injury, so he could be had for cheaper. The UDFA's can get extensive PT and basically a tryout for next year's squad. If either Rutland or Heath step up, the Jaguars could really benefit. However, as the league goes further and further to a passing league, CB's will always be needed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jags go after a #1 CB.
Draft need – 3
S – Lowery, Landry, Prosinski, Estrada, Greene, Whitehead
Observations – What a difference a year makes. Landry was brought in and GM Gene made the best move of the offseason and found Lowery for a 5th rounder. The secondary has been great all year. Night and Day from years past. Amazing. Prosinski has played in dime packages as an extra safety and has played on ST and has shown athleticism and decent tackling. He projects to next year's backup FS. Greene, the team's original SS is on IR and will probably make the team as a back up next year to Landry. Estrada, a UDFA, has a change to compete for a ST spot next year. Whitehead has physical ability, but has been on IR since he came to the Jaguars.
Prognosis – Landry is the starting SS and Lowery the starting FS. Lowery needs to be locked up to a longer term contract. Besides maybe some competition, this is a strong group.
Draft need – 6
ST – Harris, Scobee, Cain
Observations – Scobee has been great this year and deserves a contract. He loves the golf and the community, so I doubt he pulls a Podlesh. He needs to be resigned. Harris has done a pretty good job, screw wasting a draft pick on the position and just keep Harris here. Cain has not messed up yet, so he'll still be here.
Prognosis – Nothing will change here, with the exception of camp legs or a street free agent to replace Harris.
Draft need – 9
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 08:41 PM
With all of that out of the way. I think there a few ways the Jags can go in the first round.
1. Justin Blackmon
2. Matt Kalil
3. Morris Claiborne
4. Trade Down
Honestly, it all depends on what the Jags could get for a trade down. If moving up 6 spots to draft a QB takes a relatively high second pick and a 1st round swap, then I wonder if the Jags could get something, ANYTHING like what Atlanta paid for Jones. If that was the case, a trade down would be awesome. Think about it, trade from 4 to say 18, get a 1st, 2nd, 4th, and a 1st next year. That'd leave the Jags with a 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7 (I think). Then load up on WR, as it seems to be very deep this year. There's potentially a chance Jeffery could be available in the middle of the round, which would be a nice consolation prize. Otherwise, I'd like Blackmon. If Britton is done (pure speculation on my part), then I could see Kalil, but I have this feeling that Bradfield could really step up next year. Whimper is not the future. Claiborne could be a great addition too.
The Linebacker
12-03-2011, 08:47 PM
2012 Free Agents
Luke McCown
Brock Bolen (restricted)
Zach Potter
Guy Whimper
Jeremy Mincey
Matt Roth
Leger Douzable
Nate Collins
CJ Mosley
Russell Allen (restricted)
Rashean Mathis
Dwight Lowery
Will Middleton
Courtney Greene
Josh Scobee
There could definitely be more or less, as I only used FFtoobox's list.
murdamal86
12-06-2011, 08:37 AM
*sighs*
Still shaking my head
The Linebacker
12-06-2011, 07:04 PM
Last night was rough, but that game would have been much closer if the injuries on defense hadn't finally caught up to the team. Before the game began, No Roth, Kampman, Session, Middleton, Mathis, Cox, Lane, D'A Smith, Greene. Now a few of those are unknown quantities, but still, with the injuries across the board, their expected value was definitely missed. Then during the game we lost Lowery and Chick. I don't see how any team can play through that. Top 3 corners out, 4 of top 5 ends out, backup SS out, etc. etc. No way a nonexistant pass rush covers for a UDFA at corner, a street free agent at the other corner and a rookie at free safety. Not to mention a DT playing DE in Douzable.
The Linebacker
12-10-2011, 01:21 AM
SUPER AWESOME FUN TIME TRADE DOWN DRAFT!
I always like to channel my inner Stigma every once in a while. GM Gene says he always looks to draft value with need. IE, fit the highest rated guy at a position lower than he should be drafted while looking to trade back and recoup value. Hasn't happened so far in GM Gene's tenure, but let's pretend he gets ultra-"Patrioty" this year. Let's get to it.
1. TRADE -- someone wants one of the top tier QB's. Let's say Seattle, so they can get Barkley ahead of Washington. Jags get 1, 2, 5 from Seattle.
1S -Let's say Detriot wants an OT who has fallen. Jags get #1, #2, #6
1D - Cordy Glen, OG
Jags surprise people and take the massive moutain, Cordy Glen, G, Georgia. Glen comes in and immediately starts at RG. Rackley stays at LG, Meester at C, Nwaneri replaces the worst performer of the two.
2. Kendall Wright, WR
Jags take WR in the second. Wright is a producer who has speed to burn.
2S - Mohamed Sanu, WR
Jags come back and immediately take another WR, giving them the big, strong receiver they lack.
2D - Melvin Ingram, DE
Jags get a DE that will probably fill the void by the most likely going to be cut Kampman.
3 - Shaun Prater, CB/KR
Here's a guy who could upgrade the CB depth while providing kick return ability.
4 - Nigel Bradham, OLB
Jags draft the nasty OLB they have been looking for. He'll end up playing when Session inevitably gets hurt for a game or two next year. Provides great depth.
5S - Ryan Broyles, WR
Jags take a flyer on an IR candidate hoping he can contribute next year.
6 -Dominique Davis, QB
Jags get a developmental QB with upside.
6D - DaJohn Harris, DT
Picked solely because his name is nearly identical to DaJuan Harris.
The Linebacker
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Alright no shows. Here's another thing I was thinking about. Who will the Jags get to satisfy the WR position. If we've learned anything for GM Gene so far in his GMing Career, we know the he targets his signings and tries to get them signed immediately out of the gates. This is followed by signing vets at positions of need so that he can go into the draft thinking BAP. So what free agents do you think he could sign? I think he gets two bigger named WRs.
WR FA List (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/fa/wr.html)
I'd love to see a big receiver paired with a burner, or just an overall #1 signed, maybe two #1s. How about...
Dwayne Bowe (http://www.nfl.com/player/dwaynebowe/2495558/profile) -- 27 years old, 6-2, 221 pounds, Nearly averaging 1000 yards, 70 catches a season, COLLEGE MEASURABLES (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=10811&draftyear=2007&genpos=WR)
Stevie Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/player/stevejohnson/768/profile) -- 25 years old, 6-2, 210, last two years averaging ~70 catches a season, 1000 yards an 8 touchdowns. College Measurables (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/pyrnotes.php?pyid=33872&draftyear=2008&genpos=WR)
Marques Colston (http://www.nfl.com/player/marquescolston/2495821/profile) -- 28 years old, 6'4, 225, 1,000 yard a season WR (with Brees), averaging around 8 TD's a season, the biggest of the WR's listed here College Measurables (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=32697&draftyear=2006&genpos=)
Robert Meachem (http://www.nfl.com/player/robertmeachem/2495676/profile) -- 27 years old, 6-2, 210, averaging 16 yards a catch as a third and fourth receiver, producing 5 or more touchdowns per season, definite long play threat, college measurables (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=17473&draftyear=2007&genpos=)
1 or even two of those guys would make my day.
I'd personally take Stevie Johnson and Meachem.
Who would you take?
KLima878
12-20-2011, 09:41 AM
Out of those listed I'd take Johnson. He just seems to get open more. Bowe has some good talent but can also disapear at times for games at a time. They need consistentcy for Gabbert to help him grow
The Linebacker
12-21-2011, 10:23 PM
I'd take any two of them really. Also, V jackson and desean jackson are avaiable too. not sure whether either of those two fit the GM Gene team first mentality mold. Stevie Johnson and Meachem for me.
descendency
12-22-2011, 11:10 PM
Just curious: As a jags fan, would you tank the next game to block the Colts from getting Andrew Luck or the windfall they would get by trading the #1 pick?
KLima878
12-23-2011, 08:52 AM
Just curious: As a jags fan, would you tank the next game to block the Colts from getting Andrew Luck or the windfall they would get by trading the #1 pick?
May not have to tank. Have you seen all the guys on the IR? They may lose outright. Honestly sad to say but I wouldn't mind two more losses. The team isn't going anywhere.
I'm in favor of benching MJD the last game too. Why give him more touches and more of a pounding that's not needed
kearsney
12-24-2011, 12:53 AM
I cannot see the Eagles resigning D Jackson so he should be available and he would provide deep speed and significantly immediately upgrade the WR corps and special teams as a punt returner.
His attitude this year is directly tied to the fact that the Eagles have refused to ante up the dough for a new contract. I think he will be fine in a new environment.
The Linebacker
12-25-2011, 12:48 AM
Lame. I wouldn't bench MoJo. He wants the rushing title, so lets get it to him. The Jags have never had a rushing champ. We could use some good news.
I worry about Jackson. He talks too much. Just very.... nonJaguars. I don't think he'll be on the radar, but he is a good player, and if GM Gene could over look the me first mentality (he won't) he would be a good pickup.
KLima878
12-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Lame. I wouldn't bench MoJo. He wants the rushing title, so lets get it to him. The Jags have never had a rushing champ. We could use some good news.
Adrian Peterson called and says hi. Not me, I'm in favor of benching him. He over 350 touches with is usually not good news for a RB the next year. rather have him for next year, than have a rushing tittle that means nothing in the long run.
Don't get me wrong it would great to have MJD win the title but not at the cost of shortening his career.
The Linebacker
12-28-2011, 12:02 PM
I understand where you are coming from, but I still disagree. Injuries happen in generally a freaky manner. If he's gonna get hurt, he'll get hurt. Let him win one for the gipper (Weaver) and give this franchise something to hang its hat on this season.
JagWired32
12-29-2011, 03:04 PM
Out of that old list, i dont think we would be able to land 2. I think a realistic option would be Robert Meachem though.
JagWired32
12-29-2011, 03:05 PM
Out of those listed I'd take Johnson. He just seems to get open more. Bowe has some good talent but can also disapear at times for games at a time. They need consistentcy for Gabbert to help him grow
I agree, Johnson would be a great guy, but everything im hearing is if they dont get an extension done he will be tagged. I dont see him being available. I would love Dwayne Bowe, not sure he would want to come here though...who knows.
JagWired32
12-29-2011, 03:06 PM
I understand where you are coming from, but I still disagree. Injuries happen in generally a freaky manner. If he's gonna get hurt, he'll get hurt. Let him win one for the gipper (Weaver) and give this franchise something to hang its hat on this season.
I agree. I also think Mojo would get pretty pissed off if we did sit him.
GatorsBullsFan
01-02-2012, 06:46 PM
I agree, Johnson would be a great guy, but everything im hearing is if they dont get an extension done he will be tagged. I dont see him being available. I would love Dwayne Bowe, not sure he would want to come here though...who knows.
Bowe is from Florida...good chance he would want to come here if he doesn't get franchised tagged or extended by KC
The Linebacker
01-04-2012, 03:30 PM
Serious question, Do you really think being from Florida matters? I mean, if I was an NFL player, I'd follow the money and successful franchises. Wouldn't you?
The Linebacker
01-04-2012, 03:32 PM
Although, if he's smart, Florida would be a great move.... No income tax! Woooo!
GatorsBullsFan
01-09-2012, 12:19 PM
I do think close to home has something to do with his decision but I also think that we might take a WR in the draft that could lead us going with someone else a little less costly
The Linebacker
01-09-2012, 02:04 PM
Well, just remember, if we take a WR in the draft, it will be after Free Agency. We can't guarantee a home run in FA nor can we guarantee one in the Draft. We should just hope for the Jaguars drafting and signing good WR's all around.
Bosanac01
01-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Congrats on your new HC.
The Linebacker
01-11-2012, 05:55 AM
Thanks, I think its a pretty good hire, to be honest. He's had success and has dealt with adversity (Bills). Hes also had sustained success with Atlanta. Now I can't speculate on the Falcons playoff game, but one game doesn't make a man. Its hard to beat a team when you can't run against them though.
KLima878
01-17-2012, 08:54 AM
After watching this weekends games it made me think about the draft and seeing how the Giants were able to preasure rodgers all day and how the Broncos never really preasured Brady at all. If Quinton Coples can be the elite pass rucher I would like to see the Jags take him if Blackmon is gone.
I dont know much about Coples beside that he is a good athlete with all the tolls but takes plays off. is that correct?
The Linebacker
01-19-2012, 05:24 PM
I have no idea about Coples, I've heard he compares to Harvey..... ermmmmmmm... no thanks if thats true.
KLima878
03-16-2012, 07:33 AM
I'm liking the offseason so far. We may have overpaid a little for Robinson but hey thats the way the market was trending. I really like his game and should fit nice as long as we get another good WR opposite him. Henne is a good backup with starter potential and is only 26 years old. Resigning Mincey and Lowery was nice too, they both stepped up their game last year.
With Tampa signing VJax I can only assume they want draft Blackmon which leave just the Browns and Rams to worry about. Would be sweet to see Blackmon and Robinson on the outside with M80 in the slot.
The Linebacker
03-18-2012, 10:54 PM
Laurent Robinson offers something that the Jags haven't had in a while, size (6'2") AND speed (4.3). The price was high because of the market. I'll take him, draft another two speed guys, then let everyone fight it out for the starting role.
With Osgood gone, a WR slot can finally be used on a guy who is a real WR and not a ST ace.
Now with the news/rumors that the Jaguars are interested in Mark Anderson, the Jaguars could potentially be going after their other starting DE. Chick, Morgan and Lane hopefully come back healthy and we have end up having a good 5 man rotation.
Ultimately, I pray to God that the Jaguars find a trade down partner. The top of the draft is weak, but the late 1st-3rd is deep and the Jaguars could fill many holes if they had picks in that range.
Ideally we trade down to later 1, acquire an extra 2nd and 3rd and end up with a 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Then we could package the later picks to maneuver around to get targeted guys.
1. Whitney Mercilus, DE
2a. Stephen Hill, WR
2b. Trumaine Johnson, CB
3a. Josh Norman, CB
3b. T.Y. Hilton, WR
4. Jake Bequette, DE
5. Brandon Brooks, OG
6. Josh Chapman, DT
7. Chris Owusu, WR
Unbiased
03-19-2012, 09:44 AM
Here's what I think is going to happen.
I'll say we sign Mark Anderson and that will pretty much be it. He will be our pass rushing specialist, not a starting player. That's always been the big mistake with him. Look at his rookie year and this past year when he didn't have to start. After his great rookie year, the Bears made him a starter and his effectiveness greatly declined. Then after more mediocre year, the Patriots signed him to be a situational pass rusher and he thrived again. That's the key with Anderson.
Draft. We'd love to trade down but think about if that's realistic. Assuming the Niners get Manning and the Dolphins get Smith, the Browns and Chiefs might be the only teams interested in Tannehill. If the Chiefs want to leapfrog the Browns, they're trading to #3, not #7. But with almost every team having a QB at that point, I'd expect the Browns to take someone else at #4, and then they could trade up from #22 to #10 to leapfrog the Chiefs. It's still possible that an Alex Smith signing wouldn't stop the Dolphins from being interested in Tannehill. That would be the factor that keeps us in the trade down hunt.
So just assuming we don't get a great trade down opportunity and thus, get stuck at 7, I still think we take Mercilus. The best pass rusher by far last year. Gene probably has a lot of confidence in Mel Tucker and Joe Cullen to get his potential out. He can stay on the strongside like he did in college and it gives us 3 legitimate pass rushers on the outside. Hopefully, Alualu develops his pass rushing skills on the inside.
Second round, Gene takes Chris Givens from Wake Forest. Whereas fans are probably more interested in Jeffery, scouts might be higher on Givens, a guy who is very similar to Greg Jennings. He'll be the Z receiver, probably starting week one.
I haven't given much thought to the other rounds yet.
KLima878
03-20-2012, 07:53 AM
I would love to trade down. If guys like Claiborne or Blackmon are gone move down if possible. Maybe a team like KC will want to jump infront of Miami to take Tannehill @7. Other than that I dont see a team wanting to trade up to get him. If the Browns pass on him Miami wont trade up since no other team would take him.
KLima878
03-20-2012, 10:40 AM
would love to see Scott's latest mock happen!!
The Linebacker
03-20-2012, 04:29 PM
So, who else needs a QB now? Browns, Dolphins, Bills?, KC?, Could there be surprise teams out there? Dallas maybe? Cardinals?
KLima878
03-22-2012, 07:48 AM
I really dont see anyone trading up to get a QB now. Hopefully the Jags can find a team that wants a certain player at 7. Trade back to like 12 and draft Floyd. Doubt it will happen but a man can hope.
King Carls 5 Year Plan
03-22-2012, 02:28 PM
there is less than .5% chance that the Chiefs trade up for Tannehill. the Chiefs had Cassel and Stanzi under contract and then they just signed Brady Quinn. Pioli isn't one to keep 4 QBs. plus, he is connected at the hip to the growth (or lack there of) of Matt Cassel. by drafting a QB in the 1st, he would be admitting he was wrong about Cassel and that WILL NOT happen. Pioli has done a good job this offseason of addressing the Chiefs needs. staying at #11 and drafting BPA (DeCastro is my personal fav) or trading back would be ideal.
who knows, maybe a team will want to trade up to get Richardson if he slips past Cleveland and Tampa.
villagewarrior
03-23-2012, 02:08 PM
What do you Jaguar fans think about Courtney Upshaw at 7? It seems people are placing below Ingram and Perry but I think Upshaw is the better player. Would you be upset with Upshaw or is there maybe another position the Jags may go with?
The Linebacker
03-24-2012, 09:49 AM
Upshaw as what, a DE? Is he good enough to be a hand on the ground 4-3 end who is ranked 7th OVERALL? Because the Jags are set at LB if he isn't an end.
Unbiased
04-22-2012, 07:05 PM
I wanted to get this up in case I’m not able to post another mock before the draft because I have 3 exams this week.
I’m going to assume that Luck, Griffin, Kalil, Richardson, Claiborne, and Blackmon are all gone. I’m also going to assume that the Dolphins are the only team really interested in Tannehill because Mike Sherman knows him very well and is comfortable with him, so they don’t feel that they would need to trade up. So that being said, here’s my final (probably) mock…
1.7 Fletcher Cox, DE, Mississippi State
I’ve really warmed up to this idea. Cox has great tape, even though he played the best conference (not to mention best division) in college football. He also has the measurable (4.79 40 despite being 298 lbs and put up 30 reps on the bench press). He will be the strongside end on early downs and slide inside when Knighton comes out on passing downs. So who takes Cox’s spot on those downs?
2. 38 Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
Here’s the answer. Branch reminds me of Mark Anderson. He can get double digit sacks if he’s put in the right role, but he’s not an every down DE. He has identical size of Kampman (who will hypothetically get cut after this draft). Branch has a great shuttle time and is very athletic overall.
3.70 Marvin Jones, WR, Cal
Jones put 3 solid years together as a starter at Cal with mediocre QB play. Great YPC average. Willing to block and also effective at it. Makes difficult sideline catches routinely. Polished and mature enough to start outside as a rookie, especially with coaching from Sullivan.
4. 101 T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
Fast playmaker who put up great numbers as a wideout and a returner. Clearcut message to Thomas that if he doesn’t show up in camp workouts and preseason games, we have no problem getting rid of him.
5.142 Miles Burris, OLB, San Diego State
Burris can give us quality depth behind Daryl Smith, something we already have on the other side with Allen. With Session’s injury history, Allen will probably see the starting lineup for some of the season, leaving our depth very thin.
6. 176 Drew Butler, P, Georgia
Might as well fix this area once and for all.
7.228 Noah Keller, MLB, Ohio
I don’t know. Why not.
The Linebacker
04-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Great job. Doubt we take a punter though. I think the final 2 picks lean toward secondary if the draft falls that way. My 2 cents. Again, great job.
On a side note, I'm loving all of this trade down speculation. Broncos? Eagles!? I'll take whatever. Rounds 2-4 are packed with talent at need positions.
The Linebacker
05-19-2012, 11:40 PM
Wow, how the draft went completely the opposite way that I was thinking.
Unbiased, well done on the Branch selection and the punter idea!
The Linebacker
05-19-2012, 11:42 PM
So, for the 2013 draft. I'm thinking a Seminoles first 2 rounds.
1. Xavier Rhodes, CB
2. Bjoren Werner, DE
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