Jacksonville Jaguars Discussion [Archive] - Page 9

Billingsley26

01-06-2008, 08:44 PM

Congrats guys. Im a Patriots fans, and I think its gonna be one hell of a game next week. The way to beat NE is by running the ball and perfecting the play action, and getting great pressure with minimal blitzes. Both of which JAX is great at.

I was really impressed with Garrard and how he stayed poised through everything. He could have easily given up, but he battled back and won the game. Very imrpessed with the run game, and just about every facet of your game.

Cant wait for saturday night, and I personally dont think the weather would make any difference. Good luck guys.

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 07:27 AM

I really do help it snows or something like that...it seems we play our best ball in situations like that...

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 12:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeKzW3oZh2Q&feature=related

best jaguars video ever...

Geo

01-07-2008, 12:05 PM

LOL, Chariots of Fire background music. Come on guys, the Jags should have won. :)

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 03:01 PM

I know they should have won...but that run will probably go down into our history for a very long time...and if we should beat the Patriots this weekend that run will forever be remembered...I know it's a little chessey but is still gave me goosebumps...

Geo

01-07-2008, 03:30 PM

I was messing around a bit. You're right, it was a big win. Any win in the playoffs is good stuff.

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 04:49 PM

I know you were messing around...I was just saying...

The Unseen

01-07-2008, 04:50 PM

I have to admit I clicked out of that clip. I've seen the run over and over and over for the past two days anyways.

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 06:50 PM

I wasn't putting Garrard on a pedestal or anything...i just think the video is cool because of the music behind it...and it was a damn good run...

BuckNaked

01-07-2008, 07:15 PM

Just so you guys know, i'm still firmly on the Byron Leftwich bandwagon and I have no plans on getting off anytime soon. :D

Geo

01-07-2008, 07:33 PM

I wasn't putting Garrard on a pedestal or anything...i just think the video is cool because of the music behind it...and it was a damn good run...
It was a good run. If you think about it, Garrard saved his behind by converting that fourth down and getting the team in position to win with a field goal. Garrard didn't have a great overall performance, but he got the win which is most important.

Also, I wondered why the Jags didn't try running the ball on the earlier play, 3rd and 2. I'd like the ball in either Fred Taylor's hands or Maurice Drew's hands in that scenario, myself.

Just so you guys know, i'm still firmly on the Byron Leftwich bandwagon and I have no plans on getting off anytime soon. :D
ROFLeftwich

The Unseen

01-07-2008, 09:03 PM

Also, I wondered why the Jags didn't try running the ball on the earlier play, 3rd and 2. I'd like the ball in either Fred Taylor's hands or Maurice Drew's hands in that scenario, myself.

Garrard said in the press conference that he wanted the QB draw on 3rd and 2, but he was shot down.

And yes, ROLeftwich. And OMDel Rio.

The Unseen

01-07-2008, 09:04 PM

I wasn't putting Garrard on a pedestal or anything...i just think the video is cool because of the music behind it...and it was a damn good run...

Yeah, I know. I was kiddin around. Definitely a top moment in Jaguars history.

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 09:19 PM

It was a good run. If you think about it, Garrard saved his behind by converting that fourth down and getting the team in position to win with a field goal. Garrard didn't have a great overall performance, but he got the win which is most important.

Also, I wondered why the Jags didn't try running the ball on the earlier play, 3rd and 2. I'd like the ball in either Fred Taylor's hands or Maurice Drew's hands in that scenario, myself.

ROFLeftwich

they got away from the run in the whole fourth quarter...I don't know why...Maurice was having a helluva game, I would have put it into his hands on that 3rd and 2...It's interesting that Koetter shot down Garrard when he called for the scramble on 3rd down...maybe a little non-trust issue....??

BuckNaked

01-07-2008, 09:23 PM

I forget, but who else was riding that Leftwich train hard? I believe it was my good friend Unseen, but not positive.

The Unseen

01-07-2008, 09:28 PM

I forget, but who else was riding that Leftwich train hard? I believe it was my good friend Unseen, but not positive.

I always thought he was the better QB. I never was a Leftwich homer, but I would defend him when I got the chance (and trust me, that happened an infinite amount of times on the jaguars.com message board). I was moreso a pro-coaching staff guy, meaning I trusted their decision. When news broke of "the big move," I was completely stunned, but I wasn't mad or anything; I gave a "wait-and-see" approach. I also was somewhat relieved because the controversy was done away with.

BuckNaked

01-07-2008, 09:41 PM

I also was somewhat relieved because the controversy was done away with.

Blasphemy, Lefty would've lead them to a perfect season.

The Unseen

01-07-2008, 10:00 PM

Blasphemy, Lefty would've lead them to a perfect season.

http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/buzz.jpg

"You're mocking me, aren't you?"

BuckNaked

01-07-2008, 10:16 PM

http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/buzz.jpg

"You're mocking me, aren't you?"

Don't underestimate my love for Byron Leftwich. I even got a jersey of him for Christmas once. Top that biznotch.

JagHombre22

01-07-2008, 10:19 PM

http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/buzz.jpg

"You're mocking me, aren't you?"

I would have given you +rep for that quote there but it won't let me until I spread some rep around....oh well

So, Unseen, what do you think of Garrard now that he's played an entire season as a starter...do you think he's the man for the Jags? just curious, reading that you were a Lefty man...

The Unseen

01-08-2008, 05:17 AM

I would have given you +rep for that quote there but it won't let me until I spread some rep around....oh well

So, Unseen, what do you think of Garrard now that he's played an entire season as a starter...do you think he's the man for the Jags? just curious, reading that you were a Lefty man...

He's obviously better than Leftwich was, and has had one the best quarterbacking seasons for the Jaguars in their history. He's 29, so he has at least 4-5 years where he can expected to perform at a high level. I think with more experience and with better receivers, he can only go up.

JagHombre22

01-08-2008, 08:23 AM

He's obviously better than Leftwich was, and has had one the best quarterbacking seasons for the Jaguars in their history. He's 29, so he has at least 4-5 years where he can expected to perform at a high level. I think with more experience and with better receivers, he can only go up.

sure enough...I was just wondering what you thought of him now...

I still think that we need to draft a QB to groom...plus I don't think that Quinn Gray is going to stick around...

The Unseen

01-09-2008, 05:23 AM

sure enough...I was just wondering what you thought of him now...

I still think that we need to draft a QB to groom...plus I don't think that Quinn Gray is going to stick around...

Quinn Gray's probably not gonna stick around, true. I don't remember the number and the reason, but the money to keep Gray would be outrageous for a back-up QB. So then we'd definitely need to draft a QB.

Whether he'd be "groomed" is hard to say. Garrard is not young, but he's not "old" either. He still has a good deal of years left until he'd be expected to regress, so a draft QB for the future this year may have to wait awhile.

JagHombre22

01-09-2008, 09:12 AM

I agree....that the QB that we draft may not be the QB of the future but the QB crop the next couple of seasons is not that good...so I think if we're going to strike for a QB now we need to do it for the future...

leftwich7

01-09-2008, 09:35 PM

Quinn Gray's probably not gonna stick around, true. I don't remember the number and the reason, but the money to keep Gray would be outrageous for a back-up QB. So then we'd definitely need to draft a QB.

Whether he'd be "groomed" is hard to say. Garrard is not young, but he's not "old" either. He still has a good deal of years left until he'd be expected to regress, so a draft QB for the future this year may have to wait awhile.

It is so early to talk about this sort of stuff because the Jags are better suited to look at QB's that will be in the draft two to three years for now. Guys like Mark Sanchez, Ryan Mallett, Justin Roper, Willie Tuitama, Matt Stafford, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford. I have no clue if these guys will be good down the road but you never know.

P.S.-Chad Henne will be a steal

BuckNaked

01-09-2008, 09:36 PM

It is so early to talk about this sort of stuff because the Jags are better suited to look at QB's that will be in the draft two to three years for now. Guys like Mark Sanchez, Ryan Mallett, Justin Roper, Willie Tuitama, Matt Stafford, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford. I have no clue if these guys will be good down the road but you never know.

P.S.-Chad Henne will be a steal

I bet this guy was a Leftwich supporter, haha.

JagHombre22

01-10-2008, 01:32 AM

I bet this guy was a Leftwich supporter, haha.

what gave it away....

and no, I don't think Chad Henne will be a steal...he'll be a second rounder...

The Unseen

01-10-2008, 05:40 AM

I bet this guy was a Leftwich supporter, haha.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

leftwich7

01-10-2008, 10:06 AM

I bet this guy was a Leftwich supporter, haha.

I was a Leftwich supporter but when the team went with Garrard I was cautious in supporting him until Week 3 when the jags won at Denver.

but so what if i liked Leftwich, it doesn't matter now

BuckNaked

01-10-2008, 02:09 PM

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

I do what I can

JagHombre22

01-10-2008, 03:48 PM

I do what I can

and really, that's all we can ask....

BuckNaked

01-10-2008, 07:00 PM

and really, that's all we can ask....

Glad to see i'm an appreciated of the captain obvious club, John Madden would be proud.

The Unseen

01-12-2008, 03:47 PM

It's storming bad here...plz go away by gametime, plz. k thnx

Hines

01-12-2008, 04:03 PM

Best of luck tonight. Kick the lil Pansies asses for me please.

The Unseen

01-12-2008, 09:59 PM

Great season, everyone. Lemme keep it on the up-note and have a season Good-Bad-Ugly

Good

David Garrard. Del Rio with the gutsy call, and it pays off. Had a great year.

Fred Taylor. The man beast returned this year. First Pro Bowl, congrats.

Reggie Williams. Haters be quiet: 10 TDs.

Bad

Overall defense. Defense wasn't bad, but it was less than our normal effort. Had injuries, which goes along with this bad.

Division effort. Have to win it to get anywhere. 2-4 again won't cut it (yes I know the last game was meaningless)

Ugly

Pass defense. Mediocre all year, and bit us in the butt when it counted.

yourfavestoner

01-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Too conservative on D. The entire game. Way too conservative.

Its Ya Boy

01-12-2008, 10:48 PM

Mathis played like crap, Northcut dropped a TD pass, i was pissed, there goes the Jags in the super bowl, my friend and i wouldve gone to Arizona if they made it

leftwich7

01-12-2008, 10:49 PM

Its Ya Boy

01-12-2008, 10:51 PM

i guess most jags fan got what they expected, play the pats tough for most of the game and then went blitz and got burned by Stallworth. Overall disappointed only with the D. Garrard played great and the team has some things to be really happy about going into next year. Fix that pass D and hopefully keep Mike Smith around. I really don't think Stroud and Peterson make that much of a difference in this game.

I know peterson wouldnt, however Stroud wouldve at least cause more pressure, i mean for god sakes i thought i was watchin a fatter slower verson of Sam Adams, and thats sayin something(#90 )

HEISMANHERSCHEL

01-13-2008, 03:32 AM

I really enjoyed the game. I would be proud if I were a Jags fan. I thought they played well, and had a shot at winning. That is a lot more than what most teams did against the pats.

Just wanted to offer my encouragement. Maybe not a great time to do so, but oh well. How many people in the national media would have predicted the Jags to go this deep in the playoffs in the first place?

I think there is a good reason for optimism. Havent got to see Garard play much this year, but I thought he looked good.

And one last thing. I have said this many times and been blasted for it. When healthy, I think Fred Taylor is one of the elite backs to play over the last ten years. Seeing as how yall watch him week in and week out, how much longer can I expect to be watching him on sports highlights? I have a bit of a man crush on him.

The Unseen

01-13-2008, 06:04 AM

Too conservative on D. The entire game. Way too conservative.

Mike Smith probably should have called less 3-man fronts, yes. That also may have helped against Maroney's 100-yard performance, something I think we're overlooking here.

But scheme or no, we would not have won this game. Our pass defense has been the achilles heel of this team, and it proved that way tonight. The secondary missed tackles. I think that's crucial, because if they didn't miss tackles, the soft coverage scheme would have worked better; it's one of the basic requirements when you decide to play heavy coverage: TACKLE. The pass rush was non-existant. Yes, that would partially be because of the scheme, but we have not had a good pass rush all year, save Paul Spicer.

Bottom line: we gave the Pats a game with an injury-depleted and talent-depleted unit. We improved on last year by making the playoffs, and winning a road playoff game as a wild card. Next year, we need to improve on that talent, stay a bit more healthy, and win the division. That way we control our own destiny with a home game and not this road game stuff.

JagHombre22

01-13-2008, 07:27 AM

Mike Smith probably should have called less 3-man fronts, yes. That also may have helped against Maroney's 100-yard performance, something I think we're overlooking here.

But scheme or no, we would not have won this game. Our pass defense has been the achilles heel of this team, and it proved that way tonight. The secondary missed tackles. I think that's crucial, because if they didn't miss tackles, the soft coverage scheme would have worked better; it's one of the basic requirements when you decide to play heavy coverage: TACKLE. The pass rush was non-existant. Yes, that would partially be because of the scheme, but we have not had a good pass rush all year, save Paul Spicer.

Bottom line: we gave the Pats a game with an injury-depleted and talent-depleted unit. We improved on last year by making the playoffs, and winning a road playoff game as a wild card. Next year, we need to improve on that talent, stay a bit more healthy, and win the division. That way we control our own destiny with a home game and not this road game stuff.

true....I really think we would not have won this game anyways...Brady didn't make any mistakes, we didn't have the defense to win...even if Northcutt and Jones had caught those TD passes (which would have kept it all knotted up) Brady would have marched right down the field...we couldn't stop him...and eventually they would have won because they have the better weapons...I mean look at what Stallworth did in limited action...it was a great game and I'm really glad we played the way we did because we no doubt quieted some of the doubters but we've got to get better on defense and get another playmaker on offense...

I look for the FO to pull a trade for a top tier WR this offseason and sign a big name defensive FA...probably a DE maybe a CB or SS...but Wayne Weaver has already stated that he wants playmakers on offense and now that the season is over and everyone has seen that we have a good QB that only needs a go to receiver...I think it will happen....

leftwich7

01-13-2008, 11:07 AM

I would really like to see a pass rusher (not a third down rusher) who can get 13 or 14 sacks. In terms of the draft I really like Talib from Kansas but I don't know if he is going to be around

art vandelay

01-13-2008, 11:58 AM

I was disappointed with the (lack of) pressure on Brady. Everyone knows that Brady picks apart zone D's - see the Bills 2 times. Why didn't the Jags blitz more?

JagHombre22

01-13-2008, 12:01 PM

Moss would have had a huge day had we blitzed more...the times we did blitz he picked us apart...that Stallworth completion was on a blitz...

art vandelay

01-13-2008, 12:03 PM

Moss would have had a huge day had we blitzed more...the times we did blitz he picked us apart...that Stallworth completion was on a blitz...

Yeah but it was very close to a sack and probably Brady's riskiest throw all night. At least it forced him out of the pocket.

The Unseen

01-13-2008, 12:31 PM

Just because the blitz may have worked once doesn't mean it would work all the time. If the Patriots adjusted to more frequent blitzing, we would get burned.

TheSchmidt

01-13-2008, 12:50 PM

Would have liked to see more 3rd down blitzes. It seemed that defense was getting the Pats into a lot of 3rd and short plays and just kept the playing the same soft defense. Which Brady obviously kept picking apart.

JagHombre22

01-13-2008, 12:56 PM

really this is a mute point, Brady would have picked us apart no matter what kind of defense we ran....which by the way we did run just about every defensive scheme there is....save the 3-4...

jag

01-13-2008, 02:29 PM

Well that was a fun season. Maybe next year guys.

Babylon

01-13-2008, 02:40 PM

What's the thought on Matt Jones after the New England game?, obviously a talent when healthy and i guess motivated, thought he could have made the catch in the endzone if the ball were a little higher. Did he do enough to win some support and sort of solidify the WR unit?

JagHombre22

01-13-2008, 02:43 PM

Matt Jones will be on the field next season and he'll probably get the ball more with Wilford leaving but no one can say for sure...

I'm still hoping that the FO makes a trade for a top tier WR....

The Unseen

01-13-2008, 03:44 PM

Matt Jones will probably be around next year. Not sure of his role, but yes, a top tier WR plz.

JagHombre22

01-14-2008, 04:56 AM

I don't know his role either...but I hope they don't try to put him in a number 2 role...he's better suited going across the field on slants and fades...

yourfavestoner

01-15-2008, 12:39 AM

I don't know his role either...but I hope they don't try to put him in a number 2 role...he's better suited going across the field on slants and fades...

He caught a nice slant in the Pats game, but I still don't trust him going over the middle. The way you use Matt Jones is like a picture frame: keep him along the sidelines and in the endzone. That's what he's best suited for.

I don't think they'll put him in a number two role, either. I have a feeling that whether or not we trade for a top tier receiver, Mike Walker will be a starter in 08. He is Jimmy Smith reincarnated.

JagHombre22

01-15-2008, 04:04 AM

I feel the same way about Walker but I just think that there will be too much making up to do next season (i.e. learning and trying to get the system down in real game situations...) he will essentially be a rookie next year...

I still think we need to trade for someone...the combination of a top tier WR, Walker, and Williams could be very dangerous...coupled with Northcutt and Jones with Sharon coming in...I think we'll be good....it's just up to the FO to go out and make things happen...

Geo

01-15-2008, 12:17 PM

I really liked (or should I say hated) the Mike Walker pick by the Jags too.

The Unseen

01-15-2008, 05:24 PM

I hope Mike Walker isn't getting overrated, because he does have alot of hype.

JagHombre22

01-15-2008, 08:02 PM

The Unseen

01-15-2008, 08:08 PM

I don't think he's overrated...mainly due to the fact that I think he's not going to be as productive as we all hope he could be...he's going to be a rookie (essentially) and his learning curve in game situations will be behind....so I really don't expect big things from him until his third season...

YFS said he is "Jimmy Smith reincarnated." There's plenty of opportunity for overrating there. That, and I've seen alot of posters on That Other Board that think he's a shoo-in to automatically be the next starter, also something YFS said.

JagHombre22

01-15-2008, 09:37 PM

YFS said he is "Jimmy Smith reincarnated." There's plenty of opportunity for overrating there. That, and I've seen alot of posters on That Other Board that think he's a shoo-in to automatically be the next starter, also something YFS said.

he's never played a regular season NFL game for 60 minutes...so I don't know how he could be JSmooth reincarnate...remember, it took Jimmy Smith a good three years in the league before he really even got a shot at starting...1996, I believe...

I understand that he's got the talent and he's physically gifted but I'm going to wait until he actually establishes himself before I go anointing him a starter...

I don't see how he could be a starter with Williams, possibly a WR trade, Northcutt and Jones...if anything this next season I see him splitting time at the slot position...

The Unseen

01-15-2008, 09:44 PM

he's never played a regular season NFL game for 60 minutes...so I don't know how he could be JSmooth reincarnate...remember, it took Jimmy Smith a good three years in the league before he really even got a shot at starting...1996, I believe...

I understand that he's got the talent and he's physically gifted but I'm going to wait until he actually establishes himself before I go anointing him a starter...

I don't see how he could be a starter with Williams, possibly a WR trade, Northcutt and Jones...if anything this next season I see him splitting time at the slot position...

I agree with you; I'm just pointing out what others think.

yourfavestoner

01-16-2008, 03:04 AM

JagHombre22

01-16-2008, 07:49 AM

If we trade for another receiver, he'll be a rotational player. If we don't, he'll start the season off in the slot and will be a starter by midseason.

And I don't think he's going to be Jimmy right off the bat. Jimmy faced a steep learning curve when he came into this league, too, as he essentially missed his first two seasons. In his first season in Jacksonville, he was essentially just some fast guy who returned punts.

I see the talent there, though. And with a whole year to rehab his knee, he's gonna be ever more explosive next year.

What makes you say that? Weaver and Shack Harris have both said that they want more offensive playmakers...which tends to make me believe that if we trade for a WR he will be a playmaker who demands the ball...

I do not think we will get another rotational WR...we have enough of those already and none of them demand the ball...Reggie Williams is our best receiver and he wasn't even starting most of the season...he disappeared in the playoffs and doesn't demand the ball...

I will actually be stunned if we don't trade for a top tier WR....

yourfavestoner

01-16-2008, 01:51 PM

What makes you say that? Weaver and Shack Harris have both said that they want more offensive playmakers...which tends to make me believe that if we trade for a WR he will be a playmaker who demands the ball...

I do not think we will get another rotational WR...we have enough of those already and none of them demand the ball...Reggie Williams is our best receiver and he wasn't even starting most of the season...he disappeared in the playoffs and doesn't demand the ball...

I will actually be stunned if we don't trade for a top tier WR....

I mean that if we trade for a receiver, then Walker will be the one reduced to a rotational role.

JagHombre22

01-16-2008, 03:00 PM

I mean that if we trade for a receiver, then Walker will be the one reduced to a rotational role.

and then you would be correct in saying that...I see him behind Matt Jones and Dennis Northcutt...

BigJohn98

01-16-2008, 06:25 PM

We don't need to trade for a receiver. Bernard Berrian will be a FA.

I'd like for us to go after T-Sizzle and Berrian in FA.

JagHombre22

01-16-2008, 07:48 PM

I like the idea of Berrian...what bothers me about him though is that he sometimes disappears in games...he only had one 100 yard game last season...in his last three games of the season he had 7 catches for 68 yards...I don't know about you but we already have possession receivers...I don't think he is one but for a guy who's supposed to be the number one receiver he sure wasn't productive those last few games...

BigJohn98

01-16-2008, 08:03 PM

Well look at the quarterback(s) for Chicago. I'd say our qb situation is better. We could find a way to get him the ball.

JagHombre22

01-16-2008, 10:42 PM

Well look at the quarterback(s) for Chicago. I'd say our qb situation is better. We could find a way to get him the ball.

I'm just saying he disappeared in some games...but he would definitely be an upgrade over what we currently have now...although I enjoy thinking about all the trade possibilities out there...i.e. Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Chad Johnson...

if the Jaguars really want a top flight WR to be Garrard's go to guy they'll go out and get one of these guys...

yourfavestoner

01-19-2008, 06:37 AM

I'm starting to like the idea of Gibril Wilson playing SS for us if the Giants choose not to resign him.

JagHombre22

01-19-2008, 12:37 PM

I'm starting to like the idea of Gibril Wilson playing SS for us if the Giants choose not to resign him.

I've been keeping my eye on him lately...he's a very intriguing player with good skills...I would be inclined to agree with you...

in other news...Mike Smith is now the clear favorite to get the Falcons job...according to CBSsportsline.com

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10585631

BamaFalcon59

01-19-2008, 01:11 PM

I would not say the clear cut. We will interview Spagnulio before we make a decision. Hoping for Rex Ryan.

Would Smith make a good head coach?

The Unseen

01-19-2008, 08:25 PM

I would not say the clear cut. We will interview Spagnulio before we make a decision. Hoping for Rex Ryan.

Would Smith make a good head coach?

Quoting my response in the coaching changes thread:

"Well Shiver's not gonna like him the way he complained at his schemes against the Patriots, lol.

It's hard to say, but considering the work he's done with the defense while he's been here, he should be able to take that template to improve the Falcons defense. The team as a whole, I don't know."

JagHombre22

01-20-2008, 08:44 AM

when JDR hired him when he became the HC...our defense went from being mediocre at best, to being a top 10 and top 5 defense...I think he'll make a nice head coach...

JagHombre22

01-23-2008, 08:11 PM

so....who's our next DC?

I'll say that I would love to see Rex Ryan get an interview or whatever....but I would not complain if Campo got the upgrade.....

The Unseen

01-23-2008, 09:30 PM

so....who's our next DC?

I'll say that I would love to see Rex Ryan get an interview or whatever....but I would not complain if Campo got the upgrade.....

Same.

And of course the *drools* possibility of Rex Ryan would be the enticement of Terrell Suggs to Jacksonville.

Commence said *drooling*

JagHombre22

01-24-2008, 04:33 AM

I hadn't linked the Ryan and Suggs...but you're right...that could be huge...

leftwich7

01-24-2008, 12:22 PM

I'd hate to sound pessimistic, but i think JDR would like to keep it in house for the new DC

The Unseen

01-24-2008, 05:10 PM

JagHombre22

01-24-2008, 08:02 PM

The Jaguars have hired former Detriot Lions D-coordinator Donnie Henderson for an unspecified role in the Jagaurs defense that is NOT D-coordinator. Del Rio said that the role would be specified later.

An interesting idea is that he would take over Dave Campo's job (assistant head coach/secondary) and Dave Campo would be coordinator.

that's probably what it's going to be...which I wouldn't mind...Campo is a much better coordinator than he was HC...plus he knows the defense better than anybody we could hire from the outside...

an interesting sidenote to this would have to be the whole Shaun Rogers ordeal...could we be gearing up to sign Rogers once he becomes available (like he's being rumored to be...cut)

The Unseen

01-25-2008, 06:14 AM

that's probably what it's going to be...which I wouldn't mind...Campo is a much better coordinator than he was HC...plus he knows the defense better than anybody we could hire from the outside...

an interesting sidenote to this would have to be the whole Shaun Rogers ordeal...could we be gearing up to sign Rogers once he becomes available (like he's being rumored to be...cut)

We have very good DT depth with McDaniel, Landri, and Meier. Not to mention that we still have Henderson and Stroud.

JagHombre22

01-25-2008, 09:00 AM

We have very good DT depth with McDaniel, Landri, and Meier. Not to mention that we still have Henderson and Stroud.

I understand what you're saying...but....

McDaniel hasn't been able to stay healthy, Meier is a good rotational guy but he's getting old, Henderson had his worst statistical year this past season, and Stroud can no longer be counted on staying healthy....and Landri is a younger version of Meier, I don't believe he'll ever be a starting DT....just a rotational guy...

I do believe they might try to resign Grady Jackson...but he's old as dirt as well...

a DT like Shaun Rogers would be welcomed...by you I'm assuming....

leftwich7

01-25-2008, 07:47 PM

I would like to see a run at maybe Jared Allen, a big time pass rusher would be nice or maybe even Marcus Trufant in the secondary

JagHombre22

01-25-2008, 09:03 PM

Marcus Trufant would be a good addition, but if we're going to go after a player like Trufant, why not go after Samuels?

and Jared Allen is likely to be tagged...but maybe Justin Smith or Terrell Suggs will come available?

EDIT: It's also being rumored that the Jaguars and Rams are interested in recently fired Washington Redskins DC Greg Williams...

that would be a stud move, if you ask me...

The Unseen

01-26-2008, 03:36 PM

With the money we have invested in our top 2 corners, going after a premier corner like Trufant or Samuels is asking for trouble. That should be a draft-day focus. Defensive end and/or wide receiver should be our free agent priorities.

And Gregg Williams would be a nice addition, yes.

JagHombre22

01-26-2008, 04:12 PM

The Unseen

01-26-2008, 05:41 PM

if they were to move Brian Williams than I could definitely see them going after a corner like Samuels or Trufant...

Why would they do that? Reggie Nelson is best served as an FS, or even a CB who would conceivably take his place.

And again, they would probably cost more than they are worth for the Jaguars' purposes.

JagHombre22

01-26-2008, 08:00 PM

Why would they do that? Reggie Nelson is best served as an FS, or even a CB who would conceivably take his place.

And again, they would probably cost more than they are worth for the Jaguars' purposes.

Jack Del Rio has said that there is a possibility of moving Brian Williams and even Reggie...they would do this because Reggie Nelson is probably a better CB than he is FS and Brian Williams is just as good if not better safety than he is at CB...

everyone thinks that moving these players would be bad...if you look at the grand scheme of things, and the players that are available in FA...it can be done, plus our philosophy on defense seems to be changing due to the fact that we have some new defensive coaches...

JagHombre22

01-26-2008, 08:03 PM

NY+Giants=NYG

01-28-2008, 12:57 PM

just heard this rumor...Dave Campo is being linked as the next Defensive Back's coach of the Dallas Cowboy's...just merely speculation, but it's a rumor none the less...

perhaps this is why we hired Donnie Henderson?

I don't know if it's true or not. But I do know that Camp has a son who is in 11th grade and wants to stay in Jacksonville. He turned down the Giants DC job to stay. So i am not sure if he will leave, but it's something I will be watching.

JagHombre22

01-28-2008, 02:50 PM

I don't know if it's true or not. But I do know that Camp has a son who is in 11th grade and wants to stay in Jacksonville. He turned down the Giants DC job to stay. So i am not sure if he will leave, but it's something I will be watching.

when did he turn down the Giants DC Job?

The Dallas Cowboys got permission to speak with him, and JDR granted that permission meaning that JDR isn't all too worried about losing Campo...

Donnie Henderson is more than capable to running the secondary...Campo is the sole person responsible for developing Rashean Mathis into an all pro corner...he will be missed...

NY+Giants=NYG

01-28-2008, 03:01 PM

when did he turn down the Giants DC Job?

The Dallas Cowboys got permission to speak with him, and JDR granted that permission meaning that JDR isn't all too worried about losing Campo...

Donnie Henderson is more than capable to running the secondary...Campo is the sole person responsible for developing Rashean Mathis into an all pro corner...he will be missed...

I was talking to Caps college roommate and best friend yesterday when I saw him, and he told me that. BUt I didn't ask if it was when TC was hired, or just after this year when we fired Tim Lewis. I would guess when we fired Lewis, so this past off season. But I would need to confirm it.

Yeah my dad just handed me an article saying it. So it will be interesting. I owe alot to Coach C. He has hooked me up big time with autographs from Jimmy Johnson, Emmit Smith, Aikmen, and others. He actually passed my resume along to your director of college scouting for training camp intern. I guess now if he does go to dallas, maybe he can try to hook me up again.

JagHombre22

01-28-2008, 07:26 PM

I was talking to Caps college roommate and best friend yesterday when I saw him, and he told me that. BUt I didn't ask if it was when TC was hired, or just after this year when we fired Tim Lewis. I would guess when we fired Lewis, so this past off season. But I would need to confirm it.

Yeah my dad just handed me an article saying it. So it will be interesting. I owe alot to Coach C. He has hooked me up big time with autographs from Jimmy Johnson, Emmit Smith, Aikmen, and others. He actually passed my resume along to your director of college scouting for training camp intern. I guess now if he does go to dallas, maybe he can try to hook me up again.

well, if you have no link it's hearsay...

NY+Giants=NYG

01-29-2008, 09:43 AM

well, if you have no link it's hearsay...

Well talked to the guy not more than 5 seconds ago, and looks like Camp is heading to dallas. He signed the contract last night.

LonghornsLegend

02-03-2008, 01:41 AM

The Unseen

02-03-2008, 05:41 AM

Is it a foregone conclusion that Matt Jones is gone?? I feel like with the right team he could blossom into a servicable #2, but I dont think Wilford and Matt Jones can leave in the same off season right? which guy is staying and whose leaving

Well, I had kinda assumed it was a foregone conclusion, but he had a couple good perfomances near the end of the area. Coupled with the fact that the coaching staff may still see something in him worth keeping him around another year as opposed to cutting him, that makes him a candidate to stay.

Wilford's an interesting question. He was a big first-downs guy for the team, but he hasn't been a star receiver, or have much "potential" to speak of. They may keep both, but you're right that it's unlikely that both go.

So, in short, I dunno. Hope that helps ;)

The Unseen

02-03-2008, 10:24 PM

Congrats Tom Coughlin!

leftwich7

02-04-2008, 12:47 AM

wow... that was a hell of a game

JagHombre22

02-04-2008, 02:08 AM

yea, it was, one of the best....I think this was the start of a very good career for Eli Manning...

JagHombre22

02-04-2008, 02:20 AM

on another note...I am the GM of the Jaguars for the site Mock Draft...and apparently no one else was interested because I'm the only one listed for anything for the Jaguars, but if anyone would like to contribute just let me know and you shall be christened Co-gm or whatever...

JagHombre22

02-05-2008, 12:27 PM

1010XL (Jacksonville sports radio station) Rom Compton is reporting that Jaguars have signed Gregg Williams to be Defensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach

JagHombre22

02-05-2008, 01:33 PM

well, it's official...Jagnation.com has broke that the Jaguars have officially signed Gregg Williams as Defensive Coordinator...

Great Hire!

The Unseen

02-05-2008, 08:23 PM

Very good hire.

Next stop: defensive end.

JagHombre22

02-05-2008, 08:32 PM

yea, I've heard rumors that Jack Del Rio likes Justin Smith....providing that Suggs, and Allen are tagged...

I really think Williams will push for a stud DE in FA...

JagHombre22

02-08-2008, 11:35 PM

alright, well I just picked for the Jags in the Forum Mock and I picked up Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

I believe he fits where we were picking and I was not able to swing a trade to get out of the first..

EDIT: here's all the movement I've made so far in the draft...

I traded the Jags 3rd for Bengals DE Justin Smith

I traded Marcus Stroud to the Denver Broncos for WR Brandon Stokely, DE Engleberger, and a 5th round pick

I selected Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson with the 26th Pick

I traded the Jags #59 and fourth rounder with Mike Pete and Mo Williams and Matt Jones for the 49ers #40 and their #135 (fifth round pick)...trying to target a receiver

traded #135 to the Saints for Jason David...he'll be our new Nickel Back...

that leaves me with the #40, our fifth, sixth and seventh...left

James Hardy was gone when I picked in the second round, I then went to my number two option in Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida...he's got great speed he's a good blocker and he's got great character...

just made a trade...I know I'm going to get raped for this, but I believe it was too good of a trade to pass up...

Chris Hovan, Brian Kelly, Phillip Buchanon, the Bucs third and two fifth round picks

for Rashean Mathis....

The Unseen

02-09-2008, 08:42 PM

JagHombre22

02-10-2008, 07:26 AM

So you got three DEs with a hole at DT? Hmm....

yea, I don't believe there's as much need at DT as there was at DE...Rob Meier and Landri can play both Positions, still have Grady Jackson, I'm actually trying to get back into the third round so I can potentially take a DT...

JagHombre22

02-13-2008, 01:40 PM

Well it's being reported that Greg Jones has signed a new deal with the Jaguars around 3 years and $2.5 million....

LonghornsLegend

02-13-2008, 04:10 PM

Well it's being reported that Greg Jones has signed a new deal with the Jaguars around 3 years and $2.5 million....

Thats what I was coming to ask is how you guys felt about him getting his deal, 5 year 17 million total I believe...Personally ive always been a big fan, and I still remember how upset Del Rio was after he blew out his knee, its obvious he wants him to be apart of his team although I thought I would see him get a few more carries here and there.

JagHombre22

02-13-2008, 04:34 PM

Thats what I was coming to ask is how you guys felt about him getting his deal, 5 year 17 million total I believe...Personally ive always been a big fan, and I still remember how upset Del Rio was after he blew out his knee, its obvious he wants him to be apart of his team although I thought I would see him get a few more carries here and there.

he's a very pivotal role in our running game...he's probably the most underrated blocking FB in the game right now....Del Rio loves this guy and and it's clear that the FO wants Greg to be a Jaguar for the remainder of his career...I feel it's an awesome move...

I see Greg Jones getting alot more carries once Fred Taylor retires, I can almost see Greg Jones moving back to runningback when that happens and Montell Owens taking over at fullback...that way the Jags would have the sideline to sideline runner in MJD and Greg Jones as the bruiser...good first off season move for the Jags...

jag

02-18-2008, 05:55 PM

Hey guys.

.

The Unseen

02-18-2008, 06:02 PM

Hey guys.

.

What is up?

Me? Glad you asked. I've thrown up nine times today, eight times by noon. I've been in the ER for about six hours; it's apparently a bug going around and it bit me rly rly hard.

not. fun.

jag

02-18-2008, 06:21 PM

What is up?

Me? Glad you asked. I've thrown up nine times today, eight times by noon. I've been in the ER for about six hours; it's apparently a bug going around and it bit me rly rly hard.

not. fun.

I would eat your cancer unseen, you know I care about you.

The Unseen

02-18-2008, 06:30 PM

I would eat your cancer unseen, you know I care about you.

Cancer? You wouldn't eat cancer if it was dipped in chocolate sauce.

jag

02-18-2008, 06:33 PM

Cancer? You wouldn't eat cancer if it was dipped in chocolate sauce.

Totally would, but it would have to be damn nice sauce.

BigJohn98

02-18-2008, 06:54 PM

Lito Sheppard is being shopped by Philly. Would you take a chance?

JagHombre22

02-19-2008, 12:41 AM

for a second round pick...yes...but I'd try for a third and perhaps stroud first...

sorry to hear about your misadventures, Unseen....it sucks...

yourfavestoner

02-20-2008, 09:47 PM

Lito Sheppard is being shopped by Philly. Would you take a chance?

No. I have a feeling his knee is really messed up. Why else would Philly be looking to trade a good, young corner who is playing at a very affordable salary?

JagHombre22

02-21-2008, 03:07 AM

No. I have a feeling his knee is really messed up. Why else would Philly be looking to trade a good, young corner who is playing at a very affordable salary?

I heard the Eagles didn't really want to trade him in the first place...and that this is all a rumor...

BigJohn98

02-23-2008, 09:03 AM

According to the T-U, we are interested in trading for Troy Williamson. I hope we do not.

The Unseen

02-24-2008, 05:41 AM

According to the T-U, we are interested in trading for Troy Williamson. I hope we do not.

Agreed. We don't need another drospie bust WR.

BigJohn98

02-24-2008, 09:04 PM

Ok, here's a scenario. We address defensive end in Free Agency. Jonathan Stewert somehow slips past the Texans and the Seahawks, but Calais Campbell is available as well, what do you do if you are Shack Harris?

JagHombre22

02-24-2008, 10:27 PM

obviously the need for a pass rush out weighs the BAP scenario...but with Shack Harris you never know...

I would like to think that that Shack would realize that Campbell had the potential to be a great player...and that our need at DE is very much larger than RB...which I see as not a need...

as far as Williamson is concerned...if he can be had for a seventh round pick or if he gets cut and we could sign him on the very cheap...why not? He's got world class speed...why not give the spot some competition, and who knows...Williamson could revive his career somewhere other than minnesota and be that 1000 yard receiver the Vikings drafted to be in the first place...

The Unseen

02-25-2008, 05:01 PM

This is hopelessly random, but there was a stupid thread posted on jaguars.com/mb (go figure...), and someone (Chooch) posted this there:

These are actual comments made on students' report cards by teachers in the New York city public school system. All teachers were reprimanded but, boy, are these funny!
1. Since my last report, your child has reached rock bottom and has started to dig.
2. I would not allow this student to breed.
3. Your child has delusions of adequacy.
4. Your son is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
5. Your son sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.
6. The student has a 'full six-pack' but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together.
7. This child has been working with glue too much.
8. When your daughter's IQ reaches 50, she should sell.
9. The gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming.
10. If this student were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a week.
11. It's impossible to believe the sperm that created this child beat out 1,000,000 others.
12. The wheel is turning but the hamster is definitely dead.

JagHombre22

02-28-2008, 10:13 AM

Jagnation.com is reporting that the Jaguars have put DT Marcus Stroud on the trading block....Drew Rosenhaus has confirmed

BigJohn98

02-28-2008, 05:15 PM

Jagnation.com is reporting that the Jaguars have put DT Marcus Stroud on the trading block....Drew Rosenhaus has confirmed

Stroud for Chad Johnson?

JagHombre22

02-28-2008, 06:34 PM

Rosenhaus is stroud's agent...

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 10:14 AM

Jaguars and Jerry Porter are all but a done deal, according to radio stations.

Well, this is interesting. It's a good acquisition, but along with Troy Williamson, it definitely means that Ernest Wilford's gone, it may mean Matt Jones is gone, and it may mean that the coaching staff doesn't think Mike Walker is what's he's all cracked up to be.

jag

02-29-2008, 01:10 PM

It's an alright move. It still leaves us without a true number 1, but whatever Jack thinks is best is fine with me.

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 03:08 PM

Reports are also that Wilford has been signed by the Dolphins, and we have signed Cleo Lemon.

Adios, E-Dub. You were always a fan favorite and a class act.

And hello another black quarterback, lol. It's like a friggin social experiment. But reports are that we were driving hard for Todd Collins, so we're not totally racist ;)

Bearsfan123

02-29-2008, 04:55 PM

Do any Jacksonville fans believe Matt Jones could be traded? Or will it be just blowing smoke? (I remember last season he didn't get alot of playing time, nor was he happy)

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 04:56 PM

Do any Jacksonville fans believe Matt Jones could be traded? Or will it be just blowing smoke? (I remember last season he didn't get alot of playing time, nor was he happy)

He might get released...trading, probably not.

Bearsfan123

02-29-2008, 05:10 PM

He might get released...trading, probably not.

You guys did trade for Troy Williamson so im sure you guys could get something for Jones. Personally Id like the Bears to offer a 5th or maybe even a 4th for him.

But you think he might get released? Really? is he that bad?

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 07:47 PM

You guys did trade for Troy Williamson so im sure you guys could get something for Jones. Personally Id like the Bears to offer a 5th or maybe even a 4th for him.

But you think he might get released? Really? is he that bad?

Well...I guess anything's possible.

So what I'm trying to say is that I have no real clue. I could see arguments for all possibilities: trade, release, keep.

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 08:11 PM

Via PFT:

FLORENCE A JAG?
Chargers cornerback Drayton Florence is looking for a new team. On Friday, he visited with the Bucs. But now he's on his way to Jacksonville, and he's expected to join the Jaguars.
Per Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, a deal with the Jags is "all but done (http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/weblog/index.html)."
Meanwhile, former Chargers running back Michael Turner remains in Atlanta, and his agent is negotiating with the teams about a contract.

The Unseen

02-29-2008, 08:28 PM

Haha, free agency is wonderful, ain't it?

REPORTS OF FLORENCE TO JAGS PREMATURE
In response to a report from the San Diego Union-Tribune that cornerback Drayton Florence has a deal "all but done" with the Jags, a league source tells us that a deal is not imminent, or close.
Florence will visit with the Jags on Saturday, and he might work out a deal with them. But we're told that he's scheduling other visits and talking with other teams and isn't poised to sign with the Jaguars, or anyone.
With Asante Samuel signed and Marcus Trufant and Nnamdi Asomougha wearing the franchise tag, Florence is arguably the best free-agent option on the market at the position.

JagHombre22

02-29-2008, 09:34 PM

The Unseen

03-01-2008, 02:39 PM

I think Florence will get a deal done with the Jags tomorrow...I just hope he doesn't command anywhere near what Asante Samuel got...I'd prefer about 15 mil guaranteed...

I also think that if he is signed it could signal Brian William's days at CB over...new days starting at Safety...

You were correct, sir. Except he was for 12 mil in bonus money, which is obviously better.

I don't agree about Brian Williams, though. I think Brian has the chance to lose his starting spot and become the nickel corner, but I think we'll pursue a traditional safety in free agency or the draft.

Number 10

03-01-2008, 03:15 PM

Stroud to the Bills for a 3rd and 5th round pick

JagHombre22

03-01-2008, 03:24 PM

I think we got great value for Stroud and it positions us to move up in the draft and get a playmaking DE or DT...

Florence is a great signing...I do think there will be open competition for the #2 cornerback spot...but I think it is William's to lose..

JT Jag

03-01-2008, 09:14 PM

Troy Williamson. Jerry Porter. Drayton Florence. Heck, even Cleo Lemon.

All of them meet a big need.

All of the position players have the potential to be outstanding players for us down the road.

JagHombre22

03-01-2008, 10:17 PM

Jerry Porter and Drayton Florence are big time signings for us..they instantly upgrade their respective positions...

defensiveback23

03-02-2008, 10:49 PM

Just wanted to stop in and congratulate you guys on the Florence signing. He certainly had his ups and downs with us but overall I will definitely miss him. He really has great tools to work with but rarely produced the way a guy with his talent could. That's not to say he is not a good player because he consistently played on a pretty high level. He can cover very well in man to man and is great supporting the run. He also has a little bit of tendency to come up big in important situations, something he has in common with Mathis if I'm not mistaken, and needless to say they'll make a great tandem. Florence is also reputed to be a great guy and hopefully he can blossom into a great corner with your team.

bigbluedefense

03-03-2008, 08:09 PM

The Unseen

03-03-2008, 09:22 PM

Thanks for the kind words, defensiveback

We just signed Sammy Knight away from you guys. Can you tell me anything about him? Stats say he was pretty good, but those that know me know that i hate stats and think theyre useless (for the most part) in football.

Thoughts on Sammy Knight?

He's a very good run defender, but is mostly a pass-coverage liability. However, with the Giants' pass rush, that may not be as much of a problem. The other issue is his age, but that's a bit obvious.

DraftMichaelHuff

03-04-2008, 12:04 AM

Have any of you guys heard anything else about Mo Williams. For months leading up to free agency all i wanted from Atlanta was Michael Turner and Maurice Williams to be brought in as RG and then draft Jake Long at LT to give us a real smashmouth mentaility.

Funnily enough we have signed Turner and negotiated with Williams. Id love to get Williams but im finding it hard to get some info on how close he is to signing anywhere. Its also possible he might re-sign. What are your thoughts?

JagHombre22

03-04-2008, 07:39 PM

I've heard that he's still talking to the Jags about resigning...but no doubt he wants to get paid...he's a dual threat in which he can start at Tackle or Guard for about 80% of teams in the league....

he's a better guard than tackle in my opinion...and I hope the Jags resign him but Mike Smith knows how good he is so it's a definite possibility that he signs with the Falcons....

yourfavestoner

03-05-2008, 03:39 AM

We just signed Sammy Knight away from you guys. Can you tell me anything about him? Stats say he was pretty good, but those that know me know that i hate stats and think theyre useless (for the most part) in football.

Thoughts on Sammy Knight?

I hope you guys don't plan on using him to cover Witten, Cooley, and LJ Smith, cause that's definitely his biggest weakness.

The Unseen

03-06-2008, 10:48 AM

JagHombre22

03-06-2008, 03:03 PM

There's a rumor out that the Jaguars are trying to trade for Jason Taylor. Apparently the asking price is a 2nd and 4th round pick.

I don't like that asking price...and I'm not sure what I think of the move, either. We need longer-term stability at DE than that.

There's a rumor that Suggs may not be a Raven due to contract malcontent. I'd definitely trade for him, even for a first-rounder.

eh, I think Taylor is better than suggs right now...granted that Taylor only has maybe two more years in the tank but he would immediately make the defense a feared one again and he would instantly upgrade that line...

I would do a second and a fourth only because we desperately need pass rush help...we can still draft a DT or DE in the first round....

jag

03-08-2008, 10:09 AM

Larry Fitzgerald anyone?

The Unseen

03-08-2008, 03:35 PM

Larry Fitzgerald anyone?

Too much and too late.

JagHombre22

03-09-2008, 01:48 PM

I think it's safe to say that the FO will not be trading for any big name WR's....I'd look to the middle of the draft for a WR to be drafted...

BigJohn98

03-12-2008, 06:21 PM

I played basketball with Richard Collier today. I'm so cool.

JagHombre22

03-12-2008, 08:57 PM

I had dinner at Joes Crab Shack this past weekend with Mike Tice...that makes me cool too!

yourfavestoner

03-13-2008, 03:15 PM

I was on the same plane as Rashean Mathis last year. I was leaving Jacksonville and going back to LAX.

The Unseen

03-13-2008, 04:54 PM

I went to training camp and got some of their autographs...

nyaahahahahha

jag

03-13-2008, 09:12 PM

I watched a Jaguars game once.

JagHombre22

03-14-2008, 05:07 AM

I went to Jacksonville once....

BigJohn98

03-14-2008, 08:58 PM

I love lamp...

bigbluedefense

03-14-2008, 09:03 PM

I hope you guys don't plan on using him to cover Witten, Cooley, and LJ Smith, cause that's definitely his biggest weakness.

well, he can't be any worse than James Butler, who couldn't tackle, took horrible angles, and couldn't cover a ham sandwich. But yeah, he doesn't necessarily address a need either, because I feel one of our bigger needs is a SS who can cover the TE.

We'll see what happens. Its an ok signing in my eyes, but we still need another body back there. If its ok, can you break down his game? Can always use another opinion.

jag

03-16-2008, 12:32 AM

You ever eat alot, and then realize your really hungry?

The Unseen

03-16-2008, 06:36 AM

You ever eat alot, and then realize your really hungry?

Not really. I usually eat alot, and then eat more and more even when my stomach is busting at the seams.

JagHombre22

03-16-2008, 07:38 AM

yea, usually when I eat alot I figure out that I'm not hungry anymore....but that's just me...

jag

03-16-2008, 03:13 PM

I'll start eating, but then I'll just get progressively more hungry. Thank god for Chinese food, I don't know what I'd do without it.

JagHombre22

03-16-2008, 05:28 PM

Chinese food gives me the shits....but that's just me as well....

jag

03-18-2008, 08:01 PM

Chinese food gives me the shits....but that's just me as well....

...ya, thats just you.

JagHombre22

03-18-2008, 08:18 PM

...ya, thats just you.

don't lie, you know the Wok and Roll down the street gives it to you as well...

jag

03-18-2008, 08:36 PM

don't lie, you know the Wok and Roll down the street gives it to you as well...

nah man thats chipotle. Still can't keep my hands off it though.

JagHombre22

03-18-2008, 08:45 PM

nah man thats chipotle. Still can't keep my hands off it though.

preach......

yourfavestoner

03-21-2008, 01:04 AM

well, he can't be any worse than James Butler, who couldn't tackle, took horrible angles, and couldn't cover a ham sandwich. But yeah, he doesn't necessarily address a need either, because I feel one of our bigger needs is a SS who can cover the TE.

We'll see what happens. Its an ok signing in my eyes, but we still need another body back there. If its ok, can you break down his game? Can always use another opinion.

I actually think he's perfect for the role you guys signed him for. He's a guy that uses his experience and his instinct to make up for his diminishing athleticism. He's pretty good in the box and stopping the run. Like I said, as long as you don't have him in coverage responsibilities against good pass catching tight ends, then he should be a serviceable role player for you guys in the secondary.

JagHombre22

03-23-2008, 11:11 AM

The Unseen

03-23-2008, 12:28 PM

ok...if Andre Caldwell was available at #58 (our second rounder) and he was the best available player...would you pick him?

considering we take either Phillip Merling or Kentwan Balmer in the first...

Ooh, tuffy.

Um...I'm leaning no, but I'd think hard about it.

JT Jag

03-23-2008, 12:36 PM

ok...if Andre Caldwell was available at #58 (our second rounder) and he was the best available player...would you pick him?

considering we take either Phillip Merling or Kentwan Balmer in the first...I'd take another D-lineman.

And another in the third, too.

THEN we can start thinking about WRs or whatnot.

JagHombre22

03-23-2008, 11:20 PM

Many think of Caldwell as a iffy first rounder early second rounder....if we get a upper echelon DE or DT (as Merling and Balmer or Laws) and Caldwell was available, he'd probably be my choice as I don't think there will be a OT or DE/DT worth the second round pick over a skill set like Caldwell's....

sometimes drafting for need doesn't work so well, you end up passing on big time talent...

IowaJag

04-04-2008, 02:37 PM

Ive been wondering what the team would do if it could trade back from 26 to around 35, and use thoes extra picks to move from 58 to around 40/45. It looks like at 35 we could snag Laws, and in the mid 40's get ether a CB who has slipped, Lawrence Jackson, or Flacco, Brohm, Henne...

Ill keep dreaming.

JagHombre22

04-04-2008, 02:54 PM

I don't think we'd pick a QB in the second round unless it was Henne or Brohm...

but I definitely think we could trade down a couple of spots....

JagHombre22

04-07-2008, 12:47 PM

David Garrard's Contract Extension...

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10765720

congrats David!

MicktheGreat

04-08-2008, 05:04 PM

So...I'm participating in a mock-draft on another website, and the team that I got was the Jags. I know you guys had some needs on the DL -- both for a pass-rushing DE and another DT (since you guys lost Marcus Stroud).

Here's how the draft has gone so far...
Round 1 (Pick 26) -- DE Quentin Groves, AUBURN
Round 2 (Pick 58) -- DT Ahtyba Rubin, IOWA STATE

Unfortunately, the players that I was targeting in both rounds (DE Philip Merling & DT Red Bryant) got picked just before me in both rounds (ARGH!). However, I still feel pretty good about the draft thus far. Groves is one of the best pass-rushers in this draft, which was obviously a weak-spot in the Jags' DEF last season. And I think Rubin's one of the more underrated players in this draft -- a big, run-stuffing DT who, with Henderson, can eat up a lot of space and will allow the DEs to get after the QB.

Here are my questions:
On defense, I know that Safety might be a concern since Sammy Knight left. But what about MLB/OLB or CB???

On offense, I know the Jags brought in a couple of WRs, but could they be looking to add another in the draft? Also, I know that the Jags have a great 1-2 punch with Freddy & MJD; however, there are some solid RBs available at this point, as well as a number of good TEs. Also, I know nothing about the Jags' OL.

Basically, what positions could you see the Jags addressing with their two 3rd round picks (remember: I've already drafted a DE & DT)???

JagHombre22

04-10-2008, 08:56 PM

you should think about CB and SS...but I'd go BAP if you can...

IMO...you took Rubin way too early...

The Unseen

04-15-2008, 02:30 PM

Skedjulez!

Sep. 7at Tennessee1:00 p.m.
Sep. 14vs Buffalo1:00 p.m.
Sep. 21at Indianapolis4:15 p.m.
Sep. 28vs Houston1:00 p.m.
Oct. 5vs Pittsburgh8:15 p.m.
Oct. 12at Denver4:05 p.m.
Oct. 19Bye
Oct. 26vs Cleveland4:05 p.m.
Nov. 2at Cincinnati1:00 p.m.
Nov. 9at Detroit1:00 p.m.
Nov. 16vs Tennessee1:00 p.m.
Nov. 23vs Minnesota1:00 p.m.
Dec. 1at Houston8:30 p.m.
Dec. 7at Chicago1:00 p.m.
Dec. 14vs Green Bay1:00 p.m.
Dec. 18vs Indianapolis8:15 p.m.
Dec. 28at Baltimore1:00 p.m.

That's hawt.

JagHombre22

04-15-2008, 09:18 PM

it's a pretty badass schedule....probably one if not the best schedule the Jaguars have ever had....this would be a good season to go to a Jaguars game....

yourfavestoner

04-17-2008, 08:53 PM

Blahhhhhhhhh

jag

04-23-2008, 09:54 PM

hey guys, hey

JagHombre22

04-25-2008, 04:23 PM

hey guys, hey

hey there....

hope Jason Taylor ends up in teal for 2009....

regoob2

04-25-2008, 05:46 PM

Hey what would it take to get Khalif Barnes in a trade? thanks.

JagHombre22

04-26-2008, 05:46 AM

Hey what would it take to get Khalif Barnes in a trade? thanks.

probably a solid late second or early third...he's a really good tackle...

jag

05-04-2008, 09:31 PM

Dude, my girlfriend got us tickets to see the Twins and the BoSoxs this sunday. The seats are right behind homeplate too.

Best GF eva.

Unseen can confirm this too.

JagHombre22

05-04-2008, 10:05 PM

Dude, my girlfriend got us tickets to see the Twins and the BoSoxs this sunday. The seats are right behind homeplate too.

Best GF eva.

Unseen can confirm this too.

wait? You and Unseen have the same girlfriend?

The Unseen

05-05-2008, 06:34 AM

Dude, my girlfriend got us tickets to see the Twins and the BoSoxs this sunday. The seats are right behind homeplate too.

Best GF eva.

Unseen can confirm this too.

uh...

uh...

no comment.

JT Jag

05-24-2008, 11:49 PM

Dude, my girlfriend got us tickets to see the Twins and the BoSoxs this sunday. The seats are right behind homeplate too.

Best GF eva.

Unseen can confirm this too.Oh, almost forgot. When it turns out she's pregnant, it WASN'T ME.

jag

05-25-2008, 08:00 PM

Oh, almost forgot. When it turns out she's pregnant, it WASN'T ME.

I gotcha back, don't worry.

yourfavestoner

05-30-2008, 01:09 AM

The board is very boring lately...

The Unseen

06-03-2008, 08:23 AM

The board is very boring lately...

It's the deadest of the dead zone. Not very fun.

JT Jag

07-06-2008, 10:15 PM

Biz-ump yo.

JT Jag

07-10-2008, 11:11 AM

Matt Jones: Great White (Line) Hope.

yourfavestoner

07-10-2008, 11:17 AM

Matt Jones: Great White (Line) Hope.

Ahahahahahaha. +rep for making me actually laugh out loud.

The Unseen

07-10-2008, 08:23 PM

So the dead zone kinda un-died today. Matt Jones is doin' it, Wayne Weaver ain't sellin' it, and Brian Williams ain't goin' to jail for it. That's it.

bigbluedefense

07-10-2008, 08:36 PM

Mike Walker ftw.

yourfavestoner

07-11-2008, 03:00 AM

Mike Walker ftw.

I <3 Mike Walker.

jag

07-11-2008, 01:44 PM

I'm wearing my Matt Jones jersey today. Gotta represent.

yourfavestoner

07-13-2008, 01:33 PM

I'm wearing my Matt Jones jersey today. Gotta represent.

where the **** have you been?

jag

07-13-2008, 11:23 PM

I kinda retired from posting and just came on here to read what people where saying. But, now that the season is coming and training camp is right around the corner, I'm considering coming out of retirement.

My agent Unseen can elaborate further if need be.

but ya, i'm gonna start posting more now that the season is about here.

smittyjs

07-14-2008, 04:11 PM

i can't believe Jones got caught with my coke, what a *****.....

eaglesfan_45

08-09-2008, 08:39 PM

The Unseen

08-09-2008, 10:29 PM

If I were you guys, I would be worried about Derrick Harvey, he needs to sign. He will make 0 impact this year, b/c of the fact he has missed TC and is going to miss pre-season time. He needs to sign before he falls further behind. Broderick Bunkley did the same thing his rookie year and for half the season he wasn't on the active roster.

You're probably right. Quentin Groves has looked good from what I've heard, so it may not be a total loss. I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of the both of them coming into this year anyways - I expect next year and the following to be their successes.

Anyways, I don't have a Good-Bad-Ugly since I didn't see the second quarter and most of the third quarter. I'll do that for next week, though. From what I know, MJD and Greg Jones did well, Mike Walker had the dropsies, and the Jags had the fumblesies.

LonghornsLegend

08-10-2008, 03:18 PM

The Unseen

08-13-2008, 11:29 AM

Can somebody clarify who saw the game how Chauncey Washington looked out there? Stat sheet looked pretty good, and he always had some talent, wondering if he looked like he really had something or just average.

Yeah, I can't tell you anything other than what the stat sheet said, as I barely saw him play. All I know really is that he had a fumble, which doesn't mean he was terrible, but it's not a good thing either.

The Unseen

08-16-2008, 09:14 PM

This'll be easy.

Good

Brian Witherspoon

Bad/Ugly

Everyone else

Tony Boselli (of all people) said it best: the Miami Dolphins wanted to be on the field, but the Jaguars didn't. JDR was peeved to say the least when coming off the field, and didn't let the starters play in the second half to let the feeling sink. So in that way, it's positive to know that this may be the Jaguars getting the crap out of their system. Not to mention the fact that both our starting WRs are out. But at a basic glance, it's not a good sign for the upcoming season.

Hines

08-16-2008, 09:17 PM

The Unseen

08-16-2008, 09:33 PM

Any word from the Harvey front? Is it true that if he doesnt sign once the season starts, he will have to miss the entire year? Also, what are your starting recievers looking like? Is Williamson showing promise, or is he still ******** bricks?

The bottom line for Harvey seems to be that the Jaguars have a standing offer and they are not budging. So we'll see how that works.

For WR: our starters are out (Reggie Williams and Jerry Porter) basically until the start of the season, Troy Williamson has looked good in camp and hasn't really done much in games, Mike Walker has shown flashes but has had the dropsies in games, and Matt Jones is also positive in camp with minimal game showing. Now Marcedes Lewis isn't a WR, but by the looks of it he may be moving up to one of our best pass catchers, if not the best if the WR pool stays muddy.

Hines

08-16-2008, 09:37 PM

The Unseen

08-16-2008, 09:55 PM

I like Mike Walker a lot. I hope he starts this year or next. I am not a huge fan of Porter or Williamson. I am a huge fan of Lewis and I think he will have a big year for you guys.

Is Florence going to take Williams spot as a starter?

Yes actually. He will start at CB and Brian Williams will be the starting SS. Interesting move, we'll see how that works. However, Brian will play nickelback when the Jaguars go in nickel and Gerald Sensabaugh will play SS. Some good flexibility.

Hines

08-16-2008, 10:14 PM

I thought the rumors were false about Williams moving to saftey?

Unbiased

08-16-2008, 10:29 PM

I thought the rumors were false about Williams moving to saftey?

Del Rio has flat out said Williams is the starting SS.

As for Harvey, I believe Harvey wants money in between Ellis's and Rivers's contracts. The Jags would have liked to trade up to 9 or 10 instead of 8, but the Ravens were the only team in that area who would trade down to 26. So the jags think Harvey is really worth about what mayo got. I think the FO will "give in" before the season starts.

Forgive me if this is incorrect, this is what I have gathered on www.jaguars.com

The Unseen

08-19-2008, 06:47 PM

Del Rio has flat out said Williams is the starting SS.

As for Harvey, I believe Harvey wants money in between Ellis's and Rivers's contracts. The Jags would have liked to trade up to 9 or 10 instead of 8, but the Ravens were the only team in that area who would trade down to 26. So the jags think Harvey is really worth about what mayo got. I think the FO will "give in" before the season starts.

Forgive me if this is incorrect, this is what I have gathered on www.jaguars.com (http://www.jaguars.com)

You're right.

so, anyways...it's gonna be hurricane time here in J-ville Thursday via the latest track. If my info is correct, Fay would only be the second hurricane in recorded history to make landfall in the area, first being Dora in 1964.

leroyisgod

08-20-2008, 11:33 AM

Did Harvey sign yet?

Cribbs>Hester

08-20-2008, 01:24 PM

Did Harvey sign yet?

They just raised their offer to 23 million with 17.2 guaranteed today, so maybe he'll sign in the next few days. He wants to be closer to the Sedrick Ellis range though 49 Million with 19.5 guaranteed, so then again maybe not.

I think he'll be happy with the guaranteed money, but he'll want a chance to earn more than 23 million in incentives. With the money Mayo and McLevin got 23 mil is an unfair raise from those two selections. I'm willing to bet Rivers got around 23 million or more too. Jacksonville should offer 30 mill and the 17.2 guaranteed or they may be without Harvey for a long time.

yourfavestoner

08-22-2008, 01:57 AM

Is it just me, or are the majority of users on the Jaguars.com messageboard functionally r etarded..

The Unseen

08-22-2008, 09:18 PM

Is it just me, or are the majority of users on the Jaguars.com messageboard functionally r etarded..

Irrationality's just too fun, I guess.

The Unseen

08-23-2008, 09:53 PM

Better than last week.

Good

Reggie Nelson. Beast.

Mike Pete. Same.

Dennis Northcutt. Nice moves.

Bad

O-line. Looked porous at times.

Pass defense. Same.

Ugly

Tampa Bay LB's injury. Name slipping me...hope he's alright.

And speaking of injury, MJD had a sprained ankle, but JDR said it wasn't serious and he was taken out of the game for precaution.

Unbiased

08-23-2008, 10:54 PM

I want to know your guys' opinions on the Jags offseason moves after the 2008 season.

Reggie Williams
Mike Peterson
Khalif Barnes

Who gets signed and who gets released?

Also, are there any other key players whose contracts are up after this season?

BamaFalcon59

08-23-2008, 11:02 PM

You're probably right. Quentin Groves has looked good from what I've heard, so it may not be a total loss. I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of the both of them coming into this year anyways - I expect next year and the following to be their successes.

Anyways, I don't have a Good-Bad-Ugly since I didn't see the second quarter and most of the third quarter. I'll do that for next week, though. From what I know, MJD and Greg Jones did well, Mike Walker had the dropsies, and the Jags had the fumblesies.

He dropped passes against Atlanta, too. I loved his production, size, and speed out of college, though.

swagger

08-24-2008, 04:56 PM

Vintage Troy:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/91/fullj.d1e2fd689366f0843dfb275b99a0e6a8/d1e2fd689366f0843dfb275b99a0e6a8-getty-.jpg

BTW, what is Matt Jones' status (and maybe not just on the field; e.g. attitude, relationship with team and coaches, etc.)? Is he going to make the tema?

Strongside

08-27-2008, 10:26 AM

Harvey finally signed

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80a4f945&template=without-video&confirm=true

$33.4 million and includes $17.177 million guaranteed.

jjmt2500

08-31-2008, 01:50 PM

Way to go Fred Taylor... It looks like the Jags are going to be this years Bengals... Ya'll should be very proud...

The Unseen

08-31-2008, 07:00 PM

Way to go Fred Taylor... It looks like the Jags are going to be this years Bengals... Ya'll should be very proud...

He wasn't arrested, he was ticketed by a power-hungry cop.

Next.

Geo

08-31-2008, 07:02 PM

Freddy T was enjoying the last weekend before the season in Miami, let the man have his fun.

yourfavestoner

09-01-2008, 05:31 PM

Way to go Fred Taylor... It looks like the Jags are going to be this years Bengals... Ya'll should be very proud...

We've been Bengals south for awhile now. Being in a small market, we just don't get the media attention that other teams do. Can't say that I'm proud of it, but I'm certainly not disappointed or ashamed of it. As somebody who's been through it, I can honestly tell you that getting arrested for committing a victimless crime isn't a big deal at all.

jjmt2500

09-01-2008, 07:09 PM

We've been Bengals south for awhile now. Being in a small market, we just don't get the media attention that other teams do. Can't say that I'm proud of it, but I'm certainly not disappointed or ashamed of it. As somebody who's been through it, I can honestly tell you that getting arrested for committing a victimless crime isn't a big deal at all.

Thats true about the media attention. I had know clue that ya'll have had 10 arrests over the last 2 years. I would be worried about it. Arrests brought down a once good Bengals team.

scottyboy

09-02-2008, 10:04 AM

you signed Will James you lucky and smart bastids!

The Unseen

09-07-2008, 03:15 PM

ewww.

Good

Brian Witherspoon. Future star.

Matt Jones. Is that a good thing, though?

Bad

Garrard. Seriously, he played poorly. His O-line sucked, but he didn't play well.

Run D. Chris Johnson is good. Jaguars D deserves blame, though

Ugly

Scobee. He makes me furious.

O-line. 7 sacks, no run blocking. Although, some of it was because of...

Injuries. Terrible luck there.

We lost to the Titans in the opener last year. Difference this year? We want to be BETTER than last year, not same. Not to mention the Bills looked good. And oh, btw, that game is on a fast track to blackout.

ShutDwn

09-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Garrard needs to THROW THE BALL AWAY!

He has gotten way to used to escaping guys, it doesn't happen that often David. He takes so many unnecessary sacks when he had time to just throw out of bounds.

I saw this numerous times, but what was worst was the fumble at the end of the half. He was way too calm about Vanden bosch. I know the oline wasn't doing well, but he has to stop the negative plays.

jag

09-08-2008, 08:28 PM

That was terrible. Thats all I can say.

The Unseen

09-08-2008, 08:53 PM

yourfavestoner

09-10-2008, 11:40 AM

Stroud is going to eat us alive this week.

The Unseen

09-11-2008, 01:43 PM

Stroud is going to eat us alive this week.

that'll be embarrassing. and the media and dumb fans will be all liek "omgz Jax made a bad trade." I'm waiting for it.

yourfavestoner

09-12-2008, 02:45 PM

that'll be embarrassing. and the media and dumb fans will be all liek "omgz Jax made a bad trade." I'm waiting for it.

You're too smart to live in Jacksonville, Unseen.

CC.SD

09-12-2008, 06:14 PM

that'll be embarrassing. and the media and dumb fans will be all liek "omgz Jax made a bad trade." I'm waiting for it.

omgz Jax so stewpid they got rid of Tom COUGHLIN lol sewperbowl winning coach!!!

The Unseen

09-13-2008, 06:54 PM

You're too smart to live in Jacksonville, Unseen.

That's why I live in St. Augustine. On the perimeter of the insanity.

The Unseen

09-14-2008, 03:06 PM

This game is far too hard to quantify, but I'll just say this:

Good

14 games left

Ugly

0-2

The Unseen

09-21-2008, 06:15 PM

oh yeahhhh

Good

Running game. Finally!

Matt Jones. Somebody get him some coke for celebration, plz.

Lots of bad and ugly things in this game, but it's our first win. TIME FOR DA KOOL-AID!

The Unseen

09-28-2008, 03:12 PM

Nice-ness.

Good

David Garrard. He's baaaack. He was his usual accurate self.

Josh Scobee. He's always been a good kicker. Now he's a winnar.

Matt Jones. TEH SAVIER! Also WTG Mike Walker

Bad

Running game. They prepared for it, and the O-line shewed it's backup self

Injuries. Mathis and Nelson better be good, or Big Ben is gunna murder us.

Ugly

(Pass) defense. Fairly atrocious today. But that's the consequence of not having your top 2 pass defenders and Justin Durant.

So next week defines our season. Win, and we're in the fight. Lose, and we're fighting the Texans for third.

TitleTown088

09-30-2008, 11:49 PM

What can you guys tell me about DE Petteway? The Packers just signed him.

The Unseen

10-02-2008, 05:20 PM

What can you guys tell me about DE Petteway? The Packers just signed him.

As I recall he did well for a backup in limited action. I don't recall much, however.

On a non-football note, he was the guy in the car with Richard Collier when Collier was shot. But you probably already knew that.

The Unseen

10-03-2008, 08:46 PM

According to the T-U, both Nelson and Florence are out for the Steelers.

dratness

The Unseen

10-05-2008, 10:33 PM

So next week defines our season. Win, and we're in the fight. Lose, and we're fighting the Texans for third.

Check that, the Colts for third.

Good

Mike Walker. 6 catches 107 yards

Rashean Mathis. The man eats Squeeler for breakfast.

Ugly

Will James. They should not have started him at corner. Period.

Defensive chokage. It's almost incomprehensible how terrible our pass D is in late games. All 5 games have been blown by our D, and two of them our offense was able to respond.

Well, next week will be interesting. I mildly like our chances...wait what am I talking about? Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall against our defense? barf.