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steelernation77
07-23-2007, 02:51 PM
Steelers, Polamalu agree to 5-year contract extension
Monday, July 23, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

(Published: 3:40 p.m.)

The Steelers agreed to a contract extension today with safety Troy Polamalu, assuring one of their best players will remain in Pittsburgh for a while longer.

Polamalu signed a five-year contract worth $33 million, making him the highest paid Steelers and highest paid safety in the NFL. He will receive bonuses -- including signing and roster -- of $15,375,000.

Polamalu, who has made every Pro Bowl since he became the Steelers starting strong safety in 2004, had one year left on the contract he signed as a rookie in 2003.

At 5-10, 207 pounds, Polamalu plays a unique brand of safety, lining up in various positions on defense. Coordinator Dick LeBeau has designed many of his defenses to take advantage of Polamalu's ability.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07204/803807-66.stm

princefielder28
07-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Steelers have opened up the checkbook this week and have gotten their future signed and ready to go. Troy deserves this deal, and I like what Steelers management has done this week.

Philliez01
07-23-2007, 02:56 PM
The only thing that would concern me is, doesn't Polamalu have a pretty extensive concussion past? Still, he is a key clog on their D and should be for the forseeable future.

Number 10
07-23-2007, 02:58 PM
You mean he is getting more money that Archuletta? What a Joke!!!! :)

DWilliams2IndyColts
07-23-2007, 03:01 PM
It's a 4 year extension.

leroyisgod
07-23-2007, 03:03 PM
Maybe they should do the same thing for Faneca now.

EdReedUnstoppable
07-23-2007, 03:04 PM
I hope this doesn't make Ed Reed holdout for more dough.

Smokey Joe
07-23-2007, 03:04 PM
This guy is severely overrated, IMO. He is good, but he isn't the top safety in the league because he has long wavy hair.

Moses
07-23-2007, 03:05 PM
This guy is severely overrated, IMO. He is good, but he isn't the top safety in the league because he has long wavy hair.

I agree but not many people share our sentiment. He's a good player but when people start saying he's better than Ed Reed it's pretty over the top...

America
07-23-2007, 03:06 PM
I hope this doesn't make Ed Reed holdout for more dough.

Ed already got his deal. 30 mil or somethin.

EdReedUnstoppable
07-23-2007, 03:09 PM
Ed already got his deal. 30 mil or somethin.

Yeah but Polamalu is making more now, and Ed can't be happy about that.

Smokey Joe
07-23-2007, 03:11 PM
I bet if Polamalu had normal length hair, the casual football fan wouldn't even know who he was cause ESPN and NFL Live wouldn't talk about his hair whenever they showed steeler clips.

steelernation77
07-23-2007, 03:12 PM
I agree but not many people share our sentiment. He's a good player but when people start saying he's better than Ed Reed it's pretty over the top...

The really don't have similar styles of play so its kind of a bad comparison

EdReedUnstoppable
07-23-2007, 03:13 PM
The really don't have similar styles of play so its kind of a bad comparison

I agree, Polamalu is more of the textbook strong safety, he is more of a hard hitter then a finesse type safety like Ed is. But I also think no one should ever say Polamalu is as good as Ed is.

Moses
07-23-2007, 03:15 PM
I agree, Polamalu is more of the textbook strong safety, he is more of a hard hitter then a finesse type safety like Ed is. But I also think no one should ever say Polamalu is as good as Ed is.

I agree that they are different players with varying skillsets however...

Put Ed Reed in the Steelers' system and I bet they get better. The same cannot be said about Troy and the Ravens.

EdReedUnstoppable
07-23-2007, 03:16 PM
I agree that they are different players with varying skillsets however...

Put Ed Reed in the Steelers' system and I bet they get better. The same cannot be said about Troy and the Ravens.


True, I'll agree with that, but I don't agree with anything that Smokey Joe has said thusfar, people would know Troy's name long hair or short hair because everytime you see a Steelers game highlight he is making plays.

steelernation77
07-23-2007, 03:17 PM
I agree, Polamalu is more of the textbook strong safety, he is more of a hard hitter then a finesse type safety like Ed is. But I also think no one should ever say Polamalu is as good as Ed is.

I think that Polamalu has the ability to play center field and defend the pass if he was asked to, but he's required to be an impact player all over the field.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-23-2007, 03:44 PM
It's going to be very interesting to see how Tomlin uses Polamalu in his Cover 2 scheme. Troy has never really been asked to do the deep cover role, not at USC and certainly not in Pittsburgh. This signing indicates that Tomlin obviously thinks he can make Troy fit, and it'll be something I'll watch closely.

ncstateviking
07-23-2007, 03:57 PM
polamalu is so overrated. he is a personailty along with a football player. if it wasnt for the hair and heritage, he would just be another safety and he would be making 10 million less.

Splat
07-23-2007, 04:01 PM
polamalu is so overrated. he is a personailty along with a football player. if it wasnt for the hair and heritage, he would just be another safety and he would be making 10 million less.

That is going a little far is he Ed Reed no but he is top five at his position he can take over a game.

Turtlepower
07-23-2007, 04:10 PM
It is all about when someone contract expires. Polamalu is a top 5 safety in the NFL and was a significant part to the Super Bowl Steelers a couple years ago. Most people would agree that Ed Reed is better, so wait for his contract to nearly expire and we'll see who is the highest paid safety.

Contr0versy
07-23-2007, 04:18 PM
This guy is severely overrated, IMO. He is good, but he isn't the top safety in the league because he has long wavy hair.Basically.

diabsoule
07-23-2007, 04:49 PM
So, the Steelers finally have opened up the checkbook and paid one of their player's deserved money. And while a lot of fans argue over who the better safety is, the Pittsburgh Steelers obviously think Polamalu is better and have rewarded him as such. While my personally opinion is that Ed Reed is better than Polamalu that puts Polamalu 2nd, which is still not bad at all.

Everybody's contracts are becoming bigger and bigger and this year it shows that with Dwight Freeney's contract and now P's contract. If Ed Reed was to renew his contract this year or next year I'm sure he'd be the highest paid safety. It's all about securing a player who you feel is absolutely irreplaceable to your team and the Steeler's felt that about Polamalu so they gave him top money.

Turtlepower
07-23-2007, 04:55 PM
I'm sure Alan Faneca is pissed.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
07-23-2007, 05:01 PM
things just keep going up and up. i wonder where or when it will end.

PACKmanN
07-23-2007, 05:25 PM
If its 5 years 33 million thats not a bad deal considering what players are getting paid today. He could have easily made over 50 million in the open market.

yourfavestoner
07-23-2007, 05:27 PM
It's going to be very interesting to see how Tomlin uses Polamalu in his Cover 2 scheme. Troy has never really been asked to do the deep cover role, not at USC and certainly not in Pittsburgh. This signing indicates that Tomlin obviously thinks he can make Troy fit, and it'll be something I'll watch closely.

I'm thinking he'll be used more in a John Lynch/Bob Sanders type of role.

kmartin575
07-23-2007, 05:37 PM
I agree but not many people share our sentiment. He's a good player but when people start saying he's better than Ed Reed it's pretty over the top...

Well KC Joyner did have Ed Reed as the most overrated safety in the NFL.

CC.SD
07-23-2007, 06:36 PM
I agree, Polamalu is more of the textbook strong safety, he is more of a hard hitter then a finesse type safety like Ed is. But I also think no one should ever say Polamalu is as good as Ed is.

I don't know, Reed hits like a Mack truck when he wants to. Ask Koren Robinson.

remix 6
07-23-2007, 06:41 PM
that cant be more than Reed

Reed got a 6 year $40 mill

Polamalu got 5 year $33 mill

Reed makes slightly more

skinzzfan25
07-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Taylor's contract is up in two years I believe. Snyder has a pretty penny saved for him lol.

Moses
07-23-2007, 06:43 PM
that cant be more than Reed

Reed got a 6 year $40 mill

Polamalu got 5 year $33 mill

Reed makes slightly more

Polamalu's deal is 4 years $30.19 million with $15.38 million guaranteed.

remix 6
07-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Polamalu's deal is 4 years $30.19 million with $15.38 million guaranteed.

well it says 5 years $33 on the front page.

Moses
07-23-2007, 07:23 PM
well it says 5 years $33 on the front page.

It's 4 years per ESPN.

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 07:57 PM
It's going to be very interesting to see how Tomlin uses Polamalu in his Cover 2 scheme. Troy has never really been asked to do the deep cover role, not at USC and certainly not in Pittsburgh. This signing indicates that Tomlin obviously thinks he can make Troy fit, and it'll be something I'll watch closely.

Does anyone realize we're sticking 3-4. And as for the cover 2. Troy may not be a perfect cover safety. He's more like a LB/SS. We use him as a rover. I Hate to hear how he's "Overrated" because he has long hair.... or stupid stuff like that.

Yea I hear Madden talk about it, but you guys using that as the reason he's overrated? Thats a joke. Learn football.

Apparently every steeler is overrated. Troy is the best SS in the NFL. Ed Reed is the best FS. They play two different positions.. On 2 different teams.. with 2 completely different set of responsibilities.

I'm sure Troy wouldn't be as good on the ravens doing Ed Reeds job. But I'm just as sure that Ed Reed wouldn't be just as good being the Steelers SS/Rover.


I'm not going to deny that I think Ed Reed is the best "Safety" in the league. But I won't say 1 other person is better than Polamalu. He's definitely the most Versatile Safety in the league. He can cover solidly, he's a big hitter, and he's able to blitz/play the run like no body can.


But saying he's overrated is ridiculous. Sheesh.

steelernation77
07-23-2007, 08:01 PM
polamalu is so overrated. he is a personailty along with a football player. if it wasnt for the hair and heritage, he would just be another safety and he would be making 10 million less.

You seem to have a huge grudge against the Steelers. Every time the Steelers or a Steeler player is brought up, you always chide in with some negative remark. I would expect this from a Brown, Bengal, or Raven fan, but I'm just curious where this hate comes from with a Vikings fan. Is it that the Steel Curtain overshadowed the Purple People Eaters? That we helped continue your streak of Super Bowl losses? Is it that we took over the Metro Dome a couple years ago? What's your deal?

Moses
07-23-2007, 08:27 PM
Does anyone realize we're sticking 3-4. And as for the cover 2. Troy may not be a perfect cover safety. He's more like a LB/SS. We use him as a rover. I Hate to hear how he's "Overrated" because he has long hair.... or stupid stuff like that.

Yea I hear Madden talk about it, but you guys using that as the reason he's overrated? Thats a joke. Learn football.

Apparently every steeler is overrated. Troy is the best SS in the NFL. Ed Reed is the best FS. They play two different positions.. On 2 different teams.. with 2 completely different set of responsibilities.

I'm sure Troy wouldn't be as good on the ravens doing Ed Reeds job. But I'm just as sure that Ed Reed wouldn't be just as good being the Steelers SS/Rover.


I'm not going to deny that I think Ed Reed is the best "Safety" in the league. But I won't say 1 other person is better than Polamalu. He's definitely the most Versatile Safety in the league. He can cover solidly, he's a big hitter, and he's able to blitz/play the run like no body can.


But saying he's overrated is ridiculous. Sheesh.

The hair thing is because he stands out on film because of it. Guys with more generic looks are harder to spot and notice.

How is Polamalu more versatile than Reed? I don't get that sentiment at all. Reed is better in coverage by a wider margin than Polamalu is better close to the line of scrimmage. Hence, Reed is more versatile.

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 08:34 PM
The hair thing is because he stands out on film because of it. Guys with more generic looks are harder to spot and notice.

How is Polamalu more versatile than Reed? I don't get that sentiment at all. Reed is better in coverage by a wider margin than Polamalu is better close to the line of scrimmage. Hence, Reed is more versatile.

Reed is better in coverage.. Polamalu is better against the run and blitzing.

We're comparing apples to oranges. Your argument is bad though...

Reed is better in coverage... Polamalu is better at the Line of Scrimmage... therefore Reed is better? I said Polamalu is more versatile, he can cover, but he can also play a LB like role at the line of scrimmage.

ver·sa·tile (vûr'sə-təl, -tīl') pronunciation
adj.

1. Capable of doing many things competently.
2. Having varied uses or serving many functions: “The most versatile of vegetables is the tomato” (Craig Claiborne).
3. Variable or inconstant; changeable: a versatile temperament.
4. Biology. Capable of moving freely in all directions, as the antenna of an insect, the toe of an owl, or the loosely attached anther of a flower.

Reed is coverage only really... Polamalu is more "Versatile"

BamaFalcon59
07-23-2007, 08:35 PM
well it says 5 years $33 on the front page.

I think that includes the one year remaining on the contract.

BamaFalcon59
07-23-2007, 08:35 PM
[QUOTE=Mr. Stiller;527189]Troy is the best SS in the NFL.
[QUOTE]

That, IMO, would be Adrian Wilson. I'd also say Wilson is the superior rover.

mikehop05
07-23-2007, 08:40 PM
I think that includes the one year remaining on the contract.

yeah its 33mil over the next 5 years... 1 year is his current contract the other 4 are this new one

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 08:41 PM
[QUOTE=Mr. Stiller;527189]Troy is the best SS in the NFL.
[QUOTE]

That, IMO, would be Adrian Wilson. I'd also say Wilson is the superior rover.

thats a matter of opinion. I find that Troy is a key cog on our defense. I wouldn't have traded Troy for Ed Reed or Adrian Wilson.

However, I hate seeing that every Steeler player is overrated. Especially when the excuse is "He gets noticed because of his long hair"..

It's not because of his ability or his great plays. Remember the Indy play he got ripped off of? That would've ended the game there. He's made tons of other plays like that. He does it all the time. Yet now he's overrated.

mikehop05
07-23-2007, 08:44 PM
you can't really compare troy to other safties as far as coverage and whatnot goes

the roles he plays are not the tradition safety roles, he is not usually in traditional safety places, i mean the guy is blitzing just as much as he is covering so to compare him to reed would be pointless

EdReedUnstoppable
07-23-2007, 08:50 PM
I don't know, Reed hits like a Mack truck when he wants to. Ask Koren Robinson.


No no I know he hits like a mack truck, but I'm saying Ed is asked to be a more finesse coverage getting INTs constantly kinda safety instead of the big hittin run support guy. Ed Reed can support the run with the best fo them, no doubt about that.

BamaFalcon59
07-23-2007, 08:54 PM
I think Polamalu, as a traditional safety, is overrated. He is not one. Some people seemingly fail to realize that. But, when used properly he can be deadly. He has such good speed and is a hawk to the ball.

IMO, when I first realised he could be seriously exposed was the Ravens game last year. Not sure which one, but he looked lost on some big pass plays for touchdowns and just got beat. He shouldn't have those responsibilities, though. As a Rover he can make the most plays. Fortunately it looks like ya'll found a gem in Anothony Smith. My friend raves about him.

Dam8610
07-23-2007, 09:04 PM
Does anyone realize we're sticking 3-4.

Do you realize that that decision isn't permanent, and the Steelers drafted two players in the first two rounds that could be potential future stalwarts of a Tampa 2 defense in Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley? Isn't LeBeau's contract up at year's end?

Moses
07-23-2007, 09:37 PM
Reed is better in coverage.. Polamalu is better against the run and blitzing.

We're comparing apples to oranges. Your argument is bad though...

Reed is better in coverage... Polamalu is better at the Line of Scrimmage... therefore Reed is better? I said Polamalu is more versatile, he can cover, but he can also play a LB like role at the line of scrimmage.

ver·sa·tile (vûr'sə-təl, -tīl') pronunciation
adj.

1. Capable of doing many things competently.
2. Having varied uses or serving many functions: “The most versatile of vegetables is the tomato” (Craig Claiborne).
3. Variable or inconstant; changeable: a versatile temperament.
4. Biology. Capable of moving freely in all directions, as the antenna of an insect, the toe of an owl, or the loosely attached anther of a flower.

Reed is coverage only really... Polamalu is more "Versatile"

Reed is coverage only? That is laughable. Reed is a better all-around player.

He's better in man coverage. He's better in zone coverage. He's better at making reads. He has more range. He has a better nose for the football. He has a better knack for making game-changing plays. Both are great tacklers. Polamalu may be slightly better at the line of scrimmage and blitzing. Reed is clearly more versatile.

PACKmanN
07-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Reed is better in coverage.. Polamalu is better against the run and blitzing.

We're comparing apples to oranges. Your argument is bad though...

Reed is better in coverage... Polamalu is better at the Line of Scrimmage... therefore Reed is better? I said Polamalu is more versatile, he can cover, but he can also play a LB like role at the line of scrimmage.

ver·sa·tile (vûr'sə-təl, -tīl') pronunciation
adj.

1. Capable of doing many things competently.
2. Having varied uses or serving many functions: “The most versatile of vegetables is the tomato” (Craig Claiborne).
3. Variable or inconstant; changeable: a versatile temperament.
4. Biology. Capable of moving freely in all directions, as the antenna of an insect, the toe of an owl, or the loosely attached anther of a flower.

Reed is coverage only really... Polamalu is more "Versatile"

IMO if Reed job was to blitz more he would be better vs the run and blitzing. He never given the chance to run around like Polamalu has because Polamalu had Chris Hope covering behind and it shown this year.

P-L
07-23-2007, 09:42 PM
I agree but not many people share our sentiment. He's a good player but when people start saying he's better than Ed Reed it's pretty over the top...

I don't know if I would call him severely overrated, but I don't rank him as high as a lot of other people do.

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
I think Polamalu, as a traditional safety, is overrated. He is not one. Some people seemingly fail to realize that. But, when used properly he can be deadly. He has such good speed and is a hawk to the ball.

IMO, when I first realised he could be seriously exposed was the Ravens game last year. Not sure which one, but he looked lost on some big pass plays for touchdowns and just got beat. He shouldn't have those responsibilities, though. As a Rover he can make the most plays. Fortunately it looks like ya'll found a gem in Anothony Smith. My friend raves about him.

I'm not saying Anthony Smith will be the next Ed Reed. But he's amazing in coverage... and He hits like a Mack truck.

I remember watching him kill JR Reid in the pre-season, then TJ Houshmanzadeh in the regular season.

I think if Smith is ready to play in the Centerfield... Troy can successfully play Rover.

http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/2007/05/12/14/07_MC_SmithAnthony_76521.jpg

ncstateviking
07-23-2007, 10:54 PM
You seem to have a huge grudge against the Steelers. Every time the Steelers or a Steeler player is brought up, you always chide in with some negative remark. I would expect this from a Brown, Bengal, or Raven fan, but I'm just curious where this hate comes from with a Vikings fan. Is it that the Steel Curtain overshadowed the Purple People Eaters? That we helped continue your streak of Super Bowl losses? Is it that we took over the Metro Dome a couple years ago? What's your deal?

im a jets fan not a vikings fan. and i dont particularly have a grudge against the steelers. but they win one superbowl and people want to start acting like the steelers players are special.

they arent. no one of the steelers roster is anything more than good. they all have a purpose and a job that they do well and hide their faults with. they arent at an "elite" level though.

polamalu is good at running around free lancing. wow. so would alot of other people. he is one of the best safetys vs the run...but overall he is just in the good range.

hines ward is a good complete player. he blocks, he catches, he runs his routes well. but he isnt explosive. he isnt scary. and he cant take over the game. he is really good. but should be a great number 2 WR.

its how it is about every steeler to me.

neko4
07-23-2007, 11:20 PM
Finnally someone who deserves the money, yeah he's a bit overated but atleast he deserves it somewhat unlike Freeney

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 11:23 PM
im a jets fan not a vikings fan. and i dont particularly have a grudge against the steelers. but they win one superbowl and people want to start acting like the steelers players are special.

they arent. no one of the steelers roster is anything more than good. they all have a purpose and a job that they do well and hide their faults with. they arent at an "elite" level though.

polamalu is good at running around free lancing. wow. so would alot of other people. he is one of the best safetys vs the run...but overall he is just in the good range.

hines ward is a good complete player. he blocks, he catches, he runs his routes well. but he isnt explosive. he isnt scary. and he cant take over the game. he is really good. but should be a great number 2 WR.

its how it is about every steeler to me.


That makes a lot of sense.. We historically have had the best LB's in the league.. some of the best DL's. RB's.

We're completely overrated. In a tough division.. we only manage to have a losing season.. what twice in the past 15 years? miss the playoffs... 4 times I believe. We're horribly overrated.

..How is it that we're always one of the best teams in the league but we're only mediocre talent wise? How is that physically possible? We have no talent but we're consistently good.

We have a bunch of "Role Players".. that is ridiculous. Every team has role players. I find it hard to believe that we're always so tough to beat, and that we're historically one of the best teams in the league year in and year out, yet we never have any Great or Elite players.. just a bunch of overachievers..

.. Wow.

As for winning 1 superbowl. Do you realize what we acheived the past 3 years?

We had a 15-1 season, led by a Rookie QB, a 2nd year UDFA RB, and a stout defense.

Then we had ended up 7-5. won every single game... On the road. To win the superbowl. It's not because we "just won" the superbowl.. it's how we did it. Only 6th seed to ever make it to the super bowl let alone win it.

This is just a joke. I'm not sitting here saying we're top 5 at everything.. but good lord.

Casey Hampton is elite. Troy is a Top 3 safety at worst (I have him tied at 2 with Dawkins), I think Willie Parker is coming into his own, Ward is up there in age and was more "Complete" than flat-out amazing.. but he will do great as a #2 as Holmes takes over.

CC.SD
07-23-2007, 11:35 PM
I agree, it's pretty stupid to bash the Steelers.

One thing they will never have though, is an appearance in the Superbowl in 1994. w00t.

Caddy
07-23-2007, 11:36 PM
That makes a lot of sense.. We historically have had the best LB's in the league.. some of the best DL's. RB's.

We're completely overrated. In a tough division.. we only manage to have a losing season.. what twice in the past 15 years? miss the playoffs... 4 times I believe. We're horribly overrated.

..How is it that we're always one of the best teams in the league but we're only mediocre talent wise? How is that physically possible? We have no talent but we're consistently good.

We have a bunch of "Role Players".. that is ridiculous. Every team has role players. I find it hard to believe that we're always so tough to beat, and that we're historically one of the best teams in the league year in and year out, yet we never have any Great or Elite players.. just a bunch of overachievers..

.. Wow.

As for winning 1 superbowl. Do you realize what we acheived the past 3 years?

We had a 15-1 season, led by a Rookie QB, a 2nd year UDFA RB, and a stout defense.

Then we had ended up 7-5. won every single game... On the road. To win the superbowl. It's not because we "just won" the superbowl.. it's how we did it. Only 6th seed to ever make it to the super bowl let alone win it.

This is just a joke. I'm not sitting here saying we're top 5 at everything.. but good lord.

Casey Hampton is elite. Troy is a Top 3 safety at worst (I have him tied at 2 with Dawkins), I think Willie Parker is coming into his own, Ward is up there in age and was more "Complete" than flat-out amazing.. but he will do great as a #2 as Holmes takes over.

It is a shame that Cowher left though.

Dam8610
07-23-2007, 11:43 PM
Finnally someone who deserves the money, yeah he's a bit overated but atleast he deserves it somewhat unlike Freeney

Who said anything about Freeney? What's your grudge against him?

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 11:49 PM
It is a shame that Cowher left though.

True, but Cowher was gone after the superbowl.. Watch any game in 2006.. he never made an adjustment.. just sat there and let it play out.

If that was any other season, Cowher would have them fired up and we would've played a lot better.

Though I think Tomlin is a great addition. I see Cowher as a major motivator. Tomlin is half-motivator, half-x's/o's guy. So I like the addition.


Don't forget, when Cowher was hired in 92, he was an unknown DC for the KC Chiefs that was largely unproven as well. and he still made the playoffs his first season.

Hines
07-24-2007, 01:19 AM
im a jets fan not a vikings fan. and i dont particularly have a grudge against the steelers. but they win one superbowl and people want to start acting like the steelers players are special.

they arent. no one of the steelers roster is anything more than good. they all have a purpose and a job that they do well and hide their faults with. they arent at an "elite" level though.

polamalu is good at running around free lancing. wow. so would alot of other people. he is one of the best safetys vs the run...but overall he is just in the good range.

hines ward is a good complete player. he blocks, he catches, he runs his routes well. but he isnt explosive. he isnt scary. and he cant take over the game. he is really good. but should be a great number 2 WR.

its how it is about every steeler to me.



hahaha that made me laugh im sorry....so your saying that the jets have a better o and d then the steelers since every steeler is "overrated"

TheChampIsHere
07-24-2007, 02:24 AM
good signing def smart to lock him up

ncstateviking
07-24-2007, 10:23 AM
jesus christ...i have a new problem with the steelers...there fans are idiots.

first off...im not saying the steelers are all role players. they are infact very good at most every position. my problem is when people try putting the steelers on all kinds of lists for top players. which they dont belong. i have hampton as my #6 DT...not bad at all. but he doesnt deserve more than top 10. people wanted to put hines ward and willie parker as top 50 players in the NFL...are you kidding me? they are both good. hines ward would be much more than a role player...he would be an asset to any team. but there are 20 recievers i would rather have. parker is a...ok...back. he is able to accell in a running offense with great blocking. he has good speed and surprising toughness. but if you dont think there are 15 backs who could have done better with his carries on the steelers last year your crazy. polamalu is very very overrated. he is great at what he does. but there really arent other people allowed to do what he does. that makes him stand out. if every safety had his freedom...he would just be above average and stout vs the run.
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so they arent role players...but they arent elite top 5 players either. its not bashing the steelers. that is a proven formula. the pats have rules the decade using that method. i would love a team with the 7th best player at his position at every position. that team would win the superbowl easy. i dont have a problem with the steelers...pittsburg is actually a cool city...i used to live near it. but you steelers fans are blinding yourself into believing team success was do to individual talent. it wast.

im not comparing the jets and steelers at all really whoever brought that up. the jets actually have a similar team with no superstars and no glaring weakness. the only arguement i would make along those lines is kerry rhodes is a much better safety than polamalu.

and why are you bringing up history? im talking about some of the current players on the current steelers. how does that have anything to do with what the steelers have become "known for" throughout history. yeah...the steelers are one of the most prestigous historic teams in NFL history...but you know what...troy still blow...so congrats.

steelernation77
07-24-2007, 10:41 AM
jesus christ...i have a new problem with the steelers...there fans are idiots.

first off...im not saying the steelers are all role players. they are infact very good at most every position. my problem is when people try putting the steelers on all kinds of lists for top players. which they dont belong. i have hampton as my #6 DT...not bad at all. but he doesnt deserve more than top 10. people wanted to put hines ward and willie parker as top 50 players in the NFL...are you kidding me? they are both good. hines ward would be much more than a role player...he would be an asset to any team. but there are 20 recievers i would rather have. parker is a...ok...back. he is able to accell in a running offense with great blocking. he has good speed and surprising toughness. but if you dont think there are 15 backs who could have done better with his carries on the steelers last year your crazy. polamalu is very very overrated. he is great at what he does. but there really arent other people allowed to do what he does. that makes him stand out. if every safety had his freedom...he would just be above average and stout vs the run.
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so they arent role players...but they arent elite top 5 players either. its not bashing the steelers. that is a proven formula. the pats have rules the decade using that method. i would love a team with the 7th best player at his position at every position. that team would win the superbowl easy. i dont have a problem with the steelers...pittsburg is actually a cool city...i used to live near it. but you steelers fans are blinding yourself into believing team success was do to individual talent. it wast.

im not comparing the jets and steelers at all really whoever brought that up. the jets actually have a similar team with no superstars and no glaring weakness. the only arguement i would make along those lines is kerry rhodes is a much better safety than polamalu.

and why are you bringing up history? im talking about some of the current players on the current steelers. how does that have anything to do with what the steelers have become "known for" throughout history. yeah...the steelers are one of the most prestigous historic teams in NFL history...but you know what...troy still blow...so congrats.

we're all idiots yet, pittsburgh, the city you claim to have lived by, you can't even spell correctly? I've heard your sentiments on Willie Parker before, and of course I think you're very mistaken. Willie had to get most of his yards by himself last year, the Steelers' line play was very weak. I realize you're not going to concede on any of your positions, so I don't feel like it's worth wasting any more of my time on it.

CC.SD
07-24-2007, 10:59 AM
I wish Troy had been a Charger. We had just released Hot Rod, and he was sitting right there. and then we traded down for Sammy Davis. Yuck.

Hines
07-24-2007, 12:24 PM
jesus christ...i have a new problem with the steelers...there fans are idiots.

first off...im not saying the steelers are all role players. they are infact very good at most every position. my problem is when people try putting the steelers on all kinds of lists for top players. which they dont belong. i have hampton as my #6 DT...not bad at all. but he doesnt deserve more than top 10. people wanted to put hines ward and willie parker as top 50 players in the NFL...are you kidding me? they are both good. hines ward would be much more than a role player...he would be an asset to any team. but there are 20 recievers i would rather have. parker is a...ok...back. he is able to accell in a running offense with great blocking. he has good speed and surprising toughness. but if you dont think there are 15 backs who could have done better with his carries on the steelers last year your crazy. polamalu is very very overrated. he is great at what he does. but there really arent other people allowed to do what he does. that makes him stand out. if every safety had his freedom...he would just be above average and stout vs the run.
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so they arent role players...but they arent elite top 5 players either. its not bashing the steelers. that is a proven formula. the pats have rules the decade using that method. i would love a team with the 7th best player at his position at every position. that team would win the superbowl easy. i dont have a problem with the steelers...pittsburg is actually a cool city...i used to live near it. but you steelers fans are blinding yourself into believing team success was do to individual talent. it wast.

im not comparing the jets and steelers at all really whoever brought that up. the jets actually have a similar team with no superstars and no glaring weakness. the only arguement i would make along those lines is kerry rhodes is a much better safety than polamalu.

and why are you bringing up history? im talking about some of the current players on the current steelers. how does that have anything to do with what the steelers have become "known for" throughout history. yeah...the steelers are one of the most prestigous historic teams in NFL history...but you know what...troy still blow...so congrats.



all i have to say is
troy>rhodes

Vikes99ej
07-24-2007, 03:23 PM
After these last two huge deals (Redding and Polamalu), I am now sure that the amount of money a player is paid has no relation to the player's ability.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:05 PM
jesus christ...i have a new problem with the steelers...there fans are idiots.

first off...im not saying the steelers are all role players. they are infact very good at most every position. my problem is when people try putting the steelers on all kinds of lists for top players. which they dont belong. i have hampton as my #6 DT...not bad at all. but he doesnt deserve more than top 10. people wanted to put hines ward and willie parker as top 50 players in the NFL...are you kidding me? they are both good. hines ward would be much more than a role player...he would be an asset to any team. but there are 20 recievers i would rather have. parker is a...ok...back. he is able to accell in a running offense with great blocking. he has good speed and surprising toughness. but if you dont think there are 15 backs who could have done better with his carries on the steelers last year your crazy. polamalu is very very overrated. he is great at what he does. but there really arent other people allowed to do what he does. that makes him stand out. if every safety had his freedom...he would just be above average and stout vs the run.
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so they arent role players...but they arent elite top 5 players either. its not bashing the steelers. that is a proven formula. the pats have rules the decade using that method. i would love a team with the 7th best player at his position at every position. that team would win the superbowl easy. i dont have a problem with the steelers...pittsburg is actually a cool city...i used to live near it. but you steelers fans are blinding yourself into believing team success was do to individual talent. it wast.

im not comparing the jets and steelers at all really whoever brought that up. the jets actually have a similar team with no superstars and no glaring weakness. the only arguement i would make along those lines is kerry rhodes is a much better safety than polamalu.

and why are you bringing up history? im talking about some of the current players on the current steelers. how does that have anything to do with what the steelers have become "known for" throughout history. yeah...the steelers are one of the most prestigous historic teams in NFL history...but you know what...troy still blow...so congrats.

I'll just continue to shake my head at the lack of knowledge you just presented.

ncstateviking
07-24-2007, 05:44 PM
ok...you say a lack of knowledge...

would you take troy over reed, dawkins, taylor, rhodes, wilson, sanders etc.

i certainly hope not.

would you take ward over holt, smith, harrison, CJ, fitz, williams, evans, walker etc etc?

i certainly hope not.

would you take willie over LJ, LT, SJ, JA, FG, SA, brown, etc?

you would be crazy if you would.

all the steelers players are a notch below great. they make a really good sometimes great team though. i dont know why all you are taking it so offensively. so your favorite players arent special. i would rather have a superbowl ring and no pro bowler than 8 pro bowlers and no ring. damn.

Hines
07-24-2007, 05:47 PM
ok...you say a lack of knowledge...

would you take troy over reed, dawkins, taylor, rhodes, wilson, sanders etc.

i certainly hope not.

would you take ward over holt, smith, harrison, CJ, fitz, williams, evans, walker etc etc?

i certainly hope not.

would you take willie over LJ, LT, SJ, JA, FG, SA, brown, etc?

you would be crazy if you would.

all the steelers players are a notch below great. they make a really good sometimes great team though. i dont know why all you are taking it so offensively. so your favorite players arent special. i would rather have a superbowl ring and no pro bowler than 8 pro bowlers and no ring. damn.

i would take troy over taylor,rhodes,sanders,wilson but by a smidge

id take ward over a few number 1's

and i would take willie over alexander..dunno who ja is...ronnie brown...

willie is the 5th best running back..maybe the fourth

quit your hating man damn tis getting old

brat316
07-24-2007, 05:49 PM
okay parker is not a good as LJ, LT, but he is in the league with SJ, FG,

Dawkins, Reed, Troy, Wilson, Sanders, Taylor

Ward would be after CJ and Walker he is better then Evans i think its a tie between him and Williams.

your rankings are crazy

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:50 PM
ok...you say a lack of knowledge...

would you take troy over reed, dawkins, taylor, rhodes, wilson, sanders etc.

i certainly hope not. not over reed, dawkins.. but certainly over Taylor, Rhodes Wilson and sanders.

would you take ward over holt, smith, harrison, CJ, fitz, williams, evans, walker etc etc?

Did I say Ward was top 10? I said he was the most complete WR.. not the best. Not one of those guys touch his blocking except Fitz and possibly Walker.

i certainly hope not.

would you take willie over LJ, LT, SJ, JA, FG, SA, brown, etc?

you would be crazy if you would. Over JA, FG, SA and Brown I would.

all the steelers players are a notch below great. they make a really good sometimes great team though. i dont know why all you are taking it so offensively. so your favorite players arent special. i would rather have a superbowl ring and no pro bowler than 8 pro bowlers and no ring. damn.

you're basically saying we always field a great team, but we don't have great talent.. it doesn't make sense.

ncstateviking
07-24-2007, 06:12 PM
i dont remember which people say which things...i know alot of steelers fans were saying ward belonged on the top 50 NFL players list when that topic was up though...so i consider it relevent. and even before you said it i said ward was an amazingly complete WR.

i will concede faneca is an elite guard based on his dominance in run blocking alone. he leaves some to be desired in the pass protection...but wow can he open a hole.

and if you want to consider hampton elite...i will just notch that one up as personal preference. he is in the top 5 of 34 NT and i was hoping the jets would even make a move to get him if you guys switched to a 4 front.

but parker over JA, brown, and gore is being a steelers homer. the same as putting troy over wilson and co. wilson will be considered better than reed as soon as the cards put a winning season together.

you have a good team, had a great coach, and had a system that made alot of players look better than they were. i dont see why you guys are getting so butthurt over it. like i said...wins are the only thing that matters.

#1chiefs_fan
07-25-2007, 11:44 AM
very well spent...

Iamcanadian
07-26-2007, 09:06 AM
I agree that they are different players with varying skillsets however...

Put Ed Reed in the Steelers' system and I bet they get better. The same cannot be said about Troy and the Ravens.

Where do people come up with this garbage??? These 2 guys play completely different styles and are dominating game changers for their teams. Bill Cowher liked very physical DB's and Polamalu fit his defense to a tee. Cowher wouldn't want a SS like Ed Reed on his team. He'd move him to FS. If you want a very physical SS, teams would take Polamalu or Roy Williams over Ed Reed. If your defense calls for a SS to be better in pass coverage, you'd take Ed Reed. It just depends on your team's style of defense.

Moses
07-26-2007, 10:21 AM
Where do people come up with this garbage??? These 2 guys play completely different styles and are dominating game changers for their teams. Bill Cowher liked very physical DB's and Polamalu fit his defense to a tee. Cowher wouldn't want a SS like Ed Reed on his team. He'd move him to FS. If you want a very physical SS, teams would take Polamalu or Roy Williams over Ed Reed. If your defense calls for a SS to be better in pass coverage, you'd take Ed Reed. It just depends on your team's style of defense.

Reed a physical player who can play both in-the-box and in deep coverage. He excels everywhere. I don't know a team in the league who would take Polamalu over Reed to play either safety position. He is the better player.

bearsfan_51
07-26-2007, 01:05 PM
jesus christ...i have a new problem with the steelers...there fans are idiots.
Priceless.....

Iamcanadian
07-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Reed a physical player who can play both in-the-box and in deep coverage. He excels everywhere. I don't know a team in the league who would take Polamalu over Reed to play either safety position. He is the better player.

Did you take a poll or are you just spitting out your own opinion. I guarantee you, Cowher wouldn't have traded Polamula for Reed and Dallas probably wouldn't trade Williams for Reed. All 3 are the best SS's and there isn't much not to like about all three.

Moses
07-27-2007, 09:45 AM
Did you take a poll or are you just spitting out your own opinion. I guarantee you, Cowher wouldn't have traded Polamula for Reed and Dallas probably wouldn't trade Williams for Reed. All 3 are the best SS's and there isn't much not to like about all three.

You don't think Dallas would rather have Ed Reed than Roy Williams? That is laughable. Williams is subpar in coverage and I would bet my life savings that any coach would rather have Reed than Williams. How is Williams even a top 3 SS? Adrian Wilson is clearly a better player.

Polamalu is a good player but he's not on the same level as Ed Reed. Why would the Steelers not want a player that is better at the SS position in any system?

Staubach12
07-27-2007, 09:49 AM
Brace yourself. My opinion is a bit far-fetched.

Polamalu is good, don't get me wrong. I'd take him on my team. He has great closing speed, and he can play the pass and the run. However, we get tricked by our eyes. When we see his big hair we say, "Wow, he's always around the ball." However, the fact is that many safeties are around the ball as much and even more than Polamalu, but we can't tell who it is immediately because they don't have the hair. A bit overrated, and definately doesn't deserve to be the top paid safety.

Smooth Criminal
07-27-2007, 01:59 PM
All him being the highest paid safety proves is that he is the latest person to get a contract. Just wait till a safety lesser than him gets a new deal and it will be even bigger. Just like Nate Clements isn't the best corner and Cory Redding isn't the best DT.

Polamalu is very good. I don't think he is as good as Ed Reed but he is also a few years younger. I think they will ened up having similar careers by the end of both of their times.

And no. I wouldn't trade Troy for Ed Reed. I still rank Reed as the top safety and Troy behind him as the #2 but i wouldn't make the trade. I don't think Reed can do all of the things that the Steelers like to do with Troy as well as he can. But as for being a safety Reed is still the best in the game.