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PackerLegend
07-25-2007, 05:29 PM
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I will start off by saying Matt Kenseth is winning the Nextel Cup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fischbowl
07-25-2007, 05:31 PM
Martin Truex>>>>>>Matt Kenseth

Truex wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.

Philliez01
07-25-2007, 05:36 PM
I tried an Auto Racing Thread a few days back (IRL, Champ Car, NASCAR, etc.) but it didn't really catch on.

I am a Carl Long and Jeff Gordon fan. Gordon brought me into the sport when I was younger and Carl Long represents what NASCAR used to be. Hard - working, working out of his own garage, deserving of a ride but since he's passed puberty; he can't get a rid. NA$CAR is getting bad when it comes to the Almighty Dollar.

PackerLegend
07-25-2007, 05:40 PM
I dont like Gordon much i think alot of people hate him for some reason.

Philliez01
07-25-2007, 05:42 PM
I dont like Gordon much i think alot of people hate him for some reason.

Well most old fans hate or dislike him for a few reasons.

-At one point it was just a cultural thing down South. Seeing a young guy from California dominate the sport over guys like Earnhardt, Wallace, Labonte, Bodine, etc. who worked for countless years made them dislike. You still hear cheers when Jeff wrecks and it is pretty sickening. Gordon revolutionized the sport, albeit it took more time to get the Kahnes, Edwards, Sorensons into it.

-When he first started winning, he dominated. He is a good guy, but he became sort-of like the "Yankees" of NASCAR. The Rainbow Warriors were just the elite crew, Ray Evernham was the villain.

Canadian_kid16
07-25-2007, 05:45 PM
I hate Gordon :P

PackerLegend
07-25-2007, 06:38 PM
I hate Gordon :P

i guess its just a trendy thing nowadays

fischbowl
07-25-2007, 06:51 PM
I hate Gordon :P

i concur my friend.

Beans
07-25-2007, 07:15 PM
I hate Gordon :P

hi-five

harvick ftw

diabsoule
07-25-2007, 07:19 PM
I just got into NASCAR this year. My favorite drivers are Jeff Burton and Clint Bowyer. Favorite team is Richard Childress.

I can not stand Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart or Hendrick racing.

Jensen
07-25-2007, 07:24 PM
I can not stand Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart or Hendrick racing.

I'm with you on that part, they're my 3 least favorite drivers.

Beans
07-25-2007, 07:37 PM
I just got into NASCAR this year. My favorite drivers are Jeff Burton and Clint Bowyer. Favorite team is Richard Childress.

Alriiiiight

another hi-five

Philliez01
07-25-2007, 07:37 PM
i guess its just a trendy thing nowadays

It's been trendy for the past 12 or so seasons ;)

PACKmanN
07-25-2007, 07:43 PM
how hard is it to go left, left, left, left and so on. Ken Griffery Jr. is so right.

PackerLegend
07-25-2007, 07:46 PM
how hard is it to go left, left, left, left and so on. Ken Griffery Jr. is so right.

what about road courses? u have to go right

Philliez01
07-25-2007, 07:50 PM
how hard is it to go left, left, left, left and so on. Ken Griffery Jr. is so right.

Yes, we all know that everyone drives heavy pieces of machinery on 20+ degree banked turns with 43 other drivers seperated (at times) by feet going 180+.

Also, it's pretty challenging if you have a loose or tight race car to turn.

GoinDeepWithCJ
07-25-2007, 07:53 PM
I dont like Gordon much i think alot of people hate him for some reason.

Most fans that hate Jeff Gordon hate him because he is a California kid, even though he was born in Indiana. They don't like it that their southern based sport was doimnated for about the last 12 years by a guy that is not a true southerner.

I personally like Jeff, along with Kasey Kahne, Casey Mears, Kevin Harvick, Mark Martin.

I don't like Earnhardt Jr., to me he gets so much more credit than he really deserves. He has some of the best equipment, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a great driver. He is a good driver imo, but I can't see him making that jump to the elite level.

One driver who I respect but don't like is Matt Kenseth. He is a great driver, but there is something about him that just rubs me the wrong way.

neko4
07-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Hey!
Nascar on the radio is funny
Its kinda like closing your eyes and sitting by the interstate as someone announces what cars are doing

22,895
07-26-2007, 02:10 PM
Gordon baby best driver out there! Jeff is gonna win it this year.

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:12 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

S4L
07-26-2007, 02:15 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

That's a rash generalization. That would be like someone come into this forum and say they can't understand why someone would watch college kids run around with an oblong leather ball for three hours.

But hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

JCutlery
07-26-2007, 02:17 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

Dude, I don't like NASCAR either. But, if you don't like the sport, don't come in here and criticize it. Just don't post here, period. It's the same as people coming into the hockey discussion and saying "hockey sucks!". It's unnecessary.

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:17 PM
That's a rash generalization. That would be like someone come into this forum and say they can't understand why someone would watch college kids run around with an oblong leather ball for three hours.

But hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

See, the difference is that NASCAR IS guys driving around a donut track for 500 laps. Football ISN'T guys running around with a football.

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:18 PM
Dude, I don't like NASCAR either. But, if you don't like the sport, don't come in here and criticize it. Just don't post here, period. It's the same as people coming into the hockey discussion and saying "hockey sucks!". It's unnecessary.

Where did I say it sucked? I just said what I thought about it.

22,895
07-26-2007, 02:18 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

So basically you don't like NASCAR which is fine,but I know there are lots of people in other countries that would say "why would you watch a bunch of men tackling each other with a bunch of screaming fans." I mean some people like other sports than others just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people can't like it.

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:19 PM
So basically you don't like NASCAR which is fine,but I know there are lots of people in other countries that would say "why would you watch a bunch of men tackling each other with a bunch of screaming fans." I mean some people like other sports than others just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people can't like it.

Where did I say other people can't like it? NASCAR is like track & field in cars with a few pitstops. Football is not a bunch of men tackling each other with a bunch of screaming fans.

JCutlery
07-26-2007, 02:21 PM
Where did I say it sucked? I just said what I thought about it.

I never said that. I said it's the same as saying "hockey sucks" in the NHL discussion. And it is.

draftguru151
07-26-2007, 02:21 PM
See, the difference is that NASCAR IS guys driving around a donut track for 500 laps. Football ISN'T guys running around with a football.

It really isn't. The same generalization you are using is pretty much what he used for football.

22,895
07-26-2007, 02:22 PM
Where did I say it sucked? I just said what I thought about it.

You implied it.

cardsalltheway
07-26-2007, 02:22 PM
Gordon baby best driver out there! Jeff is gonna win it this year.

Fan of Gordon, USC and the Cowboys? I'm surprised you're not a Yankee fan.

22,895
07-26-2007, 02:25 PM
Fan of Gordon, USC and the Cowboys? I'm surprised you're not a Yankee fan.

Nah I'm just fans of where I was born and where I lived all my life. (and my dad is a fan of those teams so I just inherited)

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:47 PM
It really isn't. The same generalization you are using is pretty much what he used for football.

So explain what NASCAR really is?

draftguru151
07-26-2007, 02:48 PM
Do you really think all they do is drive around in a circle for 500 miles?

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:52 PM
Do you really think all they do is drive around in a circle for 500 miles?

Well they have to stop and allow their pit crews to do maintenance every now and then...

diabsoule
07-26-2007, 02:52 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

I had a little more faith in you Moses. You are right in saying that it does sum up the Southern states. BUT that was years ago. Now, NASCAR has fans everywhere and some of the most rabid, die-hard fans are from the North. I have a buddy of mine down here in Louisiana who is from Massachusetts and he is the biggest NASCAR fan I have ever met. NASCAR is just one of those sports that is gaining in popularity and you can not pigeonhole the fans by saying they are from a specific region. At least not anymore.

Moses
07-26-2007, 02:54 PM
I had a little more faith in you Moses. You are right in saying that it does sum up the Southern states. BUT that was years ago. Now, NASCAR has fans everywhere and some of the most rabid, die-hard fans are from the North. I have a buddy of mine down here in Louisiana who is from Massachusetts and he is the biggest NASCAR fan I have ever met. NASCAR is just one of those sports that is gaining in popularity and you can not pigeonhole the fans by saying they are from a specific region. At least not anymore.

Oh, don't get me wrong. It is growing wildly in popularity. Hell, even Canadians are joining in full force. I'm just saying that it's a sport built upon southern culture and values and I would guess it's still most popular down there.

Philliez01
07-26-2007, 03:47 PM
Eh, all Moses is really saying it isn't his cup of tea I assume.

Anyway, with the Chase closing in; who do you guys having the 'ship won? Hendrick is the most dominant team right now in CoT races and regular cars so I still have JG winning it. Hamlin is my other driver as coming down the stretch; he should enjoy some success.

I have Hamlin winning the Brickyard.

bwillie26
07-26-2007, 08:04 PM
NASCAR basically sums up the southern states. Seems completely ridiculous to me and I don't see how it is exciting at all to see somebody drive 500 laps in 3 hours or whatever around a donut track.

What an idiotic generalization. 'Basically sums up the souther states'? So you are saying that southern states know more about the science of a car than the rest of the country? Fan-freaking-tastic!

I guess you watch a football game and wonder "why do those the guy with the ball always run towards the other men? Why don't they run around them?" If you look at it from an outsiders perspective, like you do, you have no common understanding. Just like in football, if you watched it just a few times you would wonder why the WR comes in motion, why LB's are shifting, why the QB is making audibles.

Now go back and watch NASCAR and see a car that is ill-handling. How exactly would you fix it? Tell the driver to just do better? Wish it was that simple, eh? How many rounds on the track bar would you go up or down? How about the tire pressures? Which would you adjust? How about a spring rubber in the shocks? Maybe pull out the fender to give you a bit more downforce? This isn't even discussing the massive amount of changes they will make before a race if a car isn't handling well.

Maybe when they go to a super speedway when the only time a break is used is when you are trying to get down pit road, the drivers should be more entertaining. I mean, what is entertaining about going 200mph at full throttle around a 2 mile track while you are inches and feet apart for an entire race.

Maybe when they go to a short track like Bristol where traffic is more clogged than NYC during rush hour, they should be more entertaining than going 100mph on inclined banking you can barely walk up.

The people who think of NASCAR as a redneck sport are nothing short of idiots who try to poke fun of something they don't understand.

Maybe they should go back to MMA to boo fights like Sherk and Franca because they don't understand the beauty of how a transition game fight works. I mean, at least MMA isn't "redneck", right? Too bad most people don't understand that either.

Beans
07-26-2007, 08:52 PM
What an idiotic generalization. 'Basically sums up the souther states'? So you are saying that southern states know more about the science of a car than the rest of the country? Fan-freaking-tastic!

I guess you watch a football game and wonder "why do those the guy with the ball always run towards the other men? Why don't they run around them?" If you look at it from an outsiders perspective, like you do, you have no common understanding. Just like in football, if you watched it just a few times you would wonder why the WR comes in motion, why LB's are shifting, why the QB is making audibles.

Now go back and watch NASCAR and see a car that is ill-handling. How exactly would you fix it? Tell the driver to just do better? Wish it was that simple, eh? How many rounds on the track bar would you go up or down? How about the tire pressures? Which would you adjust? How about a spring rubber in the shocks? Maybe pull out the fender to give you a bit more downforce? This isn't even discussing the massive amount of changes they will make before a race if a car isn't handling well.

Maybe when they go to a super speedway when the only time a break is used is when you are trying to get down pit road, the drivers should be more entertaining. I mean, what is entertaining about going 200mph at full throttle around a 2 mile track while you are inches and feet apart for an entire race.

Maybe when they go to a short track like Bristol where traffic is more clogged than NYC during rush hour, they should be more entertaining than going 100mph on inclined banking you can barely walk up.

The people who think of NASCAR as a redneck sport are nothing short of idiots who try to poke fun of something they don't understand.

Maybe they should go back to MMA to boo fights like Sherk and Franca because they don't understand the beauty of how a transition game fight works. I mean, at least MMA isn't "redneck", right? Too bad most people don't understand that either.

And don't forget, there's so much more than this even, like gas mileage... so much more stuff. It's really an intricate sport.

Anyway, I'm calling Bowyer in a surprise win at Indy.

22,895
07-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Kyle Busch is gonna win The Brickyard.

22,895
07-29-2007, 04:47 PM
Tony Stewart wins again at Indy.

Beans
07-29-2007, 05:04 PM
Meh, Harvick coulda had him again if not for that damage.

PackerLegend
07-29-2007, 07:48 PM
you see all the guys climbing the fence? wonder how long until one of them falls.

Canadian_kid16
07-29-2007, 07:52 PM
damn it, Harvick came so close!

O well, he won Daytona, so thats all that matters :D

22,895
08-06-2007, 02:26 AM
Kurt Busch dominated Pocono and Kyle Busch made a nice comeback after his car was horrible for that whole race. Kyle Busch= Champion in the future

Jeff Gordon=5 time Champion

Also, In other news Paris Hilton and Kasey Kahne "talked". A few days back.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-06-2007, 11:47 AM
Hey guys I have a question for you. Anyway, a couple days back I got a NASCAR game for my computer(Nascar Racing 2003 Season, very fun, supposedly the most realistic NASCAR simulation out there), and when I go to race, there's practice, then qualifying, then happy hour, then race. My question is, what's happy hour? It's been buggin' me, and I figured you guys would know.

22,895
08-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Hey guys I have a question for you. Anyway, a couple days back I got a NASCAR game for my computer(Nascar Racing 2003 Season, very fun, supposedly the most realistic NASCAR simulation out there), and when I go to race, there's practice, then qualifying, then happy hour, then race. My question is, what's happy hour? It's been buggin' me, and I figured you guys would know.

Happy Hour is just another practice so you can tweak you're car when you do the race. In real life you have the practice before qualifying so you can make adjustments for just riding two laps. Then Happy Hour comes and thats when you make adjustment's to you're car that way it can go for the whole race. I hope I explained it well enough. My Brain is whoozy from my Football practice.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Happy Hour is just another practice so you can tweak you're car when you do the race. In real life you have the practice before qualifying so you can make adjustments for just riding two laps. Then Happy Hour comes and thats when you make adjustment's to you're car that way it can go for the whole race. I hope I explained it well enough. My Brain is whoozy from my Football practice.

Ohhh okay, thank you very much.

Philliez01
08-06-2007, 12:08 PM
NR2003 is the greatest NASCAR game ever. Bar none. Too bad EA is effing up the games horribly, as Sierra had something down. But from what I heard, online servers should be going down soon.

22,895
08-06-2007, 05:51 PM
Breaking news. Kyle Busch is gonna replace J.J. Yeley.

Kyle Busch, who drives the No. 5 Chevrolet for Hendrick Motorsports and lost his spot on the team to Dale Earnhardt Jr., will drive the No. 18 for Joe Gibbs Racing in 2008, ESPN's Angelique Chengelis reports.

The 22-year-old Busch will replace J.J. Yeley, who currently drives the No. 18 car for Gibbs and is now shopping for a job.


Gibbs is a strong team like Hendrick now.