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coolrider8193
12-26-2006, 11:50 PM
Who do you think will win the NFL 2006 offensive Rookie of the Year?

Please provide your reason for voting for a particular player.

Tubby
12-27-2006, 12:15 AM
Everybody knows its only between Young, Drew, and Colston so dont add all the extras

NickBam
12-27-2006, 12:20 AM
Merrill Hoge had a hard on for Reggie Bush for OROY today. I'm going with Vince Young though. If Kerry Collins was still the QB, how many games do the Titans win? 3, maybe?

njx9
12-27-2006, 12:35 AM
interesting that you're back.

bearsfan_51
12-27-2006, 12:42 AM
Everybody knows its only between Young, Drew, and Colston so dont add all the extras
That's true except you're completely wrong. Do you even follow the media? It's either going to be Young or Bush. Devin Hester has a better chance of winning than MJD or Colston, like it or not.

zoinks
12-27-2006, 12:44 AM
Vince Young.

Simply put, he's the best player on the field every time he's out there.

And he's only getting better.

smittyjs
12-27-2006, 12:56 AM
VYisaGod

The Dynasty
12-27-2006, 01:00 AM
Vince Young

Tubby
12-27-2006, 01:10 AM
Everybody knows its only between Young, Drew, and Colston so dont add all the extras
That's true except you're completely wrong. Do you even follow the media? It's either going to be Young or Bush. Devin Hester has a better chance of winning than MJD or Colston, like it or not.

Bush has a chance? I was under the impression that one good game wasnt enough to win OROY

njx9
12-27-2006, 01:19 AM
but mass media attention is (ignoring his reception numbers)

d34ng3l021
12-27-2006, 01:49 AM
What happened to Keak? He would be all over Drew right now.

yourfavestoner
12-27-2006, 01:53 AM
Drew has 15 touchdowns, which is third in the entire league. However, he plays for a small market team which has little shot at making the playoffs.

I wouldn't complain at all if Young won it. Bush, on the other hand...

OzTitan
12-27-2006, 08:31 AM
It will be interesting, because I see it as stats vs impact. Not saying Jones-Drew and Colston haven't made huge impacts, but VY's impact on the Titans as a whole is uncanny for a rookie. The fact he hasn't had stellar stats (even though the last 6 games have been good - 87 QB rating average) almost works in his favour in a way - he is that vital for the Titans and yet is still clearly learning weekly on the fly. There is no way any realistic option at QB for the Titans this season would have been this clutch when needed.

If there was a MVP award for a rookie he'd deserve that for sure, but the actual OROY award being his will depend on how they view his impact vs other's stats. I must say, they can't go wrong either way, great year for rookies. Although I think Bush getting it would be a little rotten.

duckseason
12-27-2006, 08:49 AM
I'd give it to Drew. VY is steadily improving and I think he'll be good, but I have to say that he is getting a tad too much credit for the titans turnaround. They have had an amazing season, but sometimes they are winning despite Young's play. He has shown a flair for the dramatic, but what if they were never in the position to lose in the first place? Overall, he really hasn't played all that well. And I don't intend to come across as saying that VY sucks, because I believe the exact opposite. I think he will be a good QB. He has had a good rookie season. But I think guys like Drew and Colston and McNeill have had outstanding seasons. Granted, QB is the toughest position to play, I just don't think VY has played well enough throughout the season to outshine some of his counterparts. JMO. I think he'll probably take home the hardware though.

keylime_5
12-27-2006, 09:27 AM
You should've put Nick Mangold on that list - he's the best rookie OLineman (arguably of course). But yeah, it's either Young, Drew, or Colston.

Jughead10
12-27-2006, 09:30 AM
You should've put Nick Mangold on that list - he's the best rookie OLineman (arguably of course). But yeah, it's either Young, Drew, or Colston.

I'm not sure Nick Mangold is the best rookie Olineman. Very good, but coming from a team with no rushing game. McNeill on the other hand has anchored the LT spot for a RB that just brok the all time TD record and leagues the lead in rushing.

Gribble
12-27-2006, 09:32 AM
Vince Young wins football games.

Beans
12-27-2006, 09:51 AM
You should've put Nick Mangold on that list - he's the best rookie OLineman

Marcus McNeil

coolrider8193
12-27-2006, 09:52 AM
interesting that you're back.

I know you would miss me. But any way it's good to back in the forum.

12-27-2006, 09:54 AM
interesting that you're back.

I know you would miss me. But any way it's good to back in the forum.

Cartman? :?

OzTitan
12-27-2006, 09:55 AM
I'd give it to Drew. VY is steadily improving and I think he'll be good, but I have to say that he is getting a tad too much credit for the titans turnaround. They have had an amazing season, but sometimes they are winning despite Young's play. He has shown a flair for the dramatic, but what if they were never in the position to lose in the first place? Overall, he really hasn't played all that well. And I don't intend to come across as saying that VY sucks, because I believe the exact opposite. I think he will be a good QB. He has had a good rookie season. But I think guys like Drew and Colston and McNeill have had outstanding seasons. Granted, QB is the toughest position to play, I just don't think VY has played well enough throughout the season to outshine some of his counterparts. JMO. I think he'll probably take home the hardware though.

The only game I recall them winning despite VY's play was against the Eagles and Jags (but the Jags game was hardly a fair to say that since he hardly had the ball and the entire offense was similarly a non factor). Otherwise he has been key on many occasions to important scoring drives, and sometimes game winning drives. And i'm not sure if you meant VY is responsible for the Titans being in a position to lose in the first place, but he certainly has not - that goes to the D on a lot of occasions. As I said, I don't see any realistic choice at QB this season that could have come close to doing what VY has done. Even when he isn't winning games on scrambles or late crucial drives, his leadership and personality has helped turn the entire team around. Numerous Titans players said when they saw VY get up fired up after the late hit against the Giants, it sparked the whole team for that amazing comeback. He's the most important single player on the Titans right now maybe outside of Pacman and Mawae.

njx9
12-27-2006, 10:07 AM
interesting that you're back.

I know you would miss me. But any way it's good to back in the forum.

"miss" is an interesting choice of words.

cards: not cartman he was actually CoolRider before.

draftguru151
12-27-2006, 10:34 AM
I wish Cutler would have started more this year because he would have easily gotten it.

12-27-2006, 10:36 AM
I wish Cutler would have started more this year because he would have easily gotten it.

If he continued at his curent pace.

NYmoney
12-27-2006, 10:49 AM
Everybody knows its only between Young, Drew, and Colston so dont add all the extras
That's true except you're completely wrong. Do you even follow the media? It's either going to be Young or Bush. Devin Hester has a better chance of winning than MJD or Colston, like it or not.

Bush has a chance? I was under the impression that one good game wasnt enough to win OROY

one good game is not enough to win OROY, but bush has had more than just one good game. he's been very solid over the last 8 or so. plus, he will get some "feel good Saints" votes. nonetheless, because vy touches the ball so much and wins, he's your OROY.

draftguru151
12-27-2006, 10:52 AM
I was looking at the rookie stats on nfl.com and Vince Young isn't there. :?

Jughead10
12-27-2006, 10:53 AM
I was looking at the rookie stats on nfl.com and Vince Young isn't there. :?

In the win column he is.

draftguru151
12-27-2006, 10:53 AM
I was looking at the rookie stats on nfl.com and Vince Young isn't there. :?

In the win column he is.

Joke?

draftguru151
12-27-2006, 10:55 AM
A lot of players are missing. Reggie Bush, Colston, and Drew are all gone.

zoinks
12-27-2006, 01:17 PM
I was looking at the rookie stats on nfl.com and Vince Young isn't there. :?

You should have looked harder....

Leinart: 2606 total yards, 56.8% completions, 13 TD's, 12 INT's.
Young: 2495 total yards, 52.6% completions, 18 TD's, 11 INTs
MJD: 2013 combined yards, 17 TD's
Gradkowski: 1832 total yards, 54% compltions, 9 TD, 9 INT
Reggie Bush: 1490 total yards, 8 TD
Marques Colston: 1038 yards, 8 TD

Vince Young is right in the mix, statistically speaking....and he's had a MUCH greater impact on his team than any other rookie in the league.

elway777
12-27-2006, 01:20 PM
Marcus Mcneil SHOULD win it.

CC.SD
12-27-2006, 01:23 PM
You should've put Nick Mangold on that list - he's the best rookie OLineman (arguably of course). But yeah, it's either Young, Drew, or Colston.

One day Marcus McNeill thought he stepped in some gum, but when he looked it was just Nick Mangold.

jackalope
12-27-2006, 02:49 PM
i said Drew. Bush shouldn't be up there. if he wins it'll be a joke.

The Unseen
12-27-2006, 02:53 PM
The Tennessee Titans are currently winning football games.

Fixed it for you.

SterlingSharpe
12-27-2006, 03:04 PM
Vince Young ahead of Marcus McNeil.

I still can't believe Marcus slipped that far in the draft, yet we're gonna see Robert Gallery, I mean Tony Mandarich, I mean Joe Thomas go top 5 in 2007. Might as well draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan again.
SOME People never learn...

njx9
12-27-2006, 03:09 PM
Vince Young ahead of Marcus McNeil.

I still can't believe Marcus slipped that far in the draft, yet we're gonna see Robert Gallery, I mean Tony Mandarich, I mean Joe Thomas go top 5 in 2007. Might as well draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan again.
SOME People never learn...

yeah, boy, who would be concerned about his spinal cord and let that affect his draft status. and who the hell is michael jordan if you think joe thomas is sam bowie? terrible analogy.

12-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Vince Young ahead of Marcus McNeil.

I still can't believe Marcus slipped that far in the draft, yet we're gonna see Robert Gallery, I mean Tony Mandarich, I mean Joe Thomas go top 5 in 2007. Might as well draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan again.
SOME People never learn...

He has major health concerns that made him fall and saying Joe Thomas will be a major bust really makes no sense. He is probably one of the safest picks in this draft. I'd really love to hear your reasoning for him being a bust.

12-27-2006, 03:11 PM
Vince Young ahead of Marcus McNeil.

I still can't believe Marcus slipped that far in the draft, yet we're gonna see Robert Gallery, I mean Tony Mandarich, I mean Joe Thomas go top 5 in 2007. Might as well draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan again.
SOME People never learn...

yeah, boy, who would be concerned about his spinal cord and let that affect his draft status. and who the hell is michael jordan if you think joe thomas is sam bowie? terrible analogy.

Levi Brown maybe?

princefielder28
12-27-2006, 03:17 PM
Vince Young w/o a doubt; the only reason Tenn is in playoff contention

SterlingSharpe
12-27-2006, 03:28 PM
My reasoning is because I remember being a HUGE sceptic of Robert Gallery 3 years ago as an NFL franchise LEFT TACKLE. Joe Thomas is next.

Tony Mandarich, Robert Gallery, and now Thomas. All Big Ten, overhyped, non-nimble, left tackles.

Take a look at the truly great OTs of today, and last year....
Walter Jones, Ogden, Roaf, Pace, Willie Anderson, Tarik Glenn, McNeil, Chris Samuels.... those are your Pro Bowlers... those are the guys who are top 5 worthy picks. You notice any difference between THEM and Thomas and Gallery? Just the facts please.

Where are those of you who said that Gallery would be an immediate All Pro?
Are you guys telling me Joe Thomas will be a Pro Bowler within 2 or 3 seasons? I will go on record and say he will be closer to a bust than a Pro Bowler after two seasons.

It's easy to say someone's gonna be great and then when they fail, they're nowhere to be found. Where are all the Chrles Rogers lovers from 2003? They EXISTED then.

12-27-2006, 03:30 PM
Non-nimble? :lol: Joe Thomas is a great athlete.

SterlingSharpe
12-27-2006, 03:33 PM
We'll see how great of an athlete he is against NFL DE's and pass rush LBers....... I'm just glad my team, Packers, don't have a top 5 or 10 pick this time. I still ache over the 1989 pick of Mandarich over Barry and Deion, and Derrick Thomas.... NEVER take the blocker ahead of the special skill player. NEVER.

12-27-2006, 03:37 PM
We'll see how great of an athlete he is against NFL DE's and pass rush LBers....... I'm just glad my team, Packers, don't have a top 5 or 10 pick this time. I still ache over the 1989 pick of Mandarich over Barry and Deion, and Derrick Thomas.... NEVER take the blocker ahead of the special skill player. NEVER.

Stupid comment. The OL is the most important part of football easily. Look at the Cardinals, we have great skill position players, but the OL sucks, so the team sucks.

CC.SD
12-27-2006, 03:49 PM
My reasoning is because I remember being a HUGE sceptic of Robert Gallery 3 years ago as an NFL franchise LEFT TACKLE. Joe Thomas is next.

Tony Mandarich, Robert Gallery, and now Thomas. All Big Ten, overhyped, non-nimble, left tackles.

Take a look at the truly great OTs of today, and last year....
Walter Jones, Ogden, Roaf, Pace, Willie Anderson, Tarik Glenn, McNeil, Chris Samuels.... those are your Pro Bowlers... those are the guys who are top 5 worthy picks. You notice any difference between THEM and Thomas and Gallery? Just the facts please.

.

I guess the lesson to be learned here is that if you're considering drafting a tackle in the top 5, make sure he is black.

12-27-2006, 03:52 PM
My reasoning is because I remember being a HUGE sceptic of Robert Gallery 3 years ago as an NFL franchise LEFT TACKLE. Joe Thomas is next.

Tony Mandarich, Robert Gallery, and now Thomas. All Big Ten, overhyped, non-nimble, left tackles.

Take a look at the truly great OTs of today, and last year....
Walter Jones, Ogden, Roaf, Pace, Willie Anderson, Tarik Glenn, McNeil, Chris Samuels.... those are your Pro Bowlers... those are the guys who are top 5 worthy picks. You notice any difference between THEM and Thomas and Gallery? Just the facts please.

.

I guess the lesson to be learned here is that if you're considering drafting a tackle in the top 5, make sure he is black.

:lol: :lol:

njx9
12-27-2006, 04:01 PM
wow... outlandish statements with no real back-up data... ridiculous claims... god syndrome...

i'm bored. let me know when you're off the "joe thomas sucks and shouldn't play a down in the NFL because i know he sucks" soap box.

zoinks
12-27-2006, 04:38 PM
wow... outlandish statements with no real back-up data... ridiculous claims... god syndrome...

i'm bored. let me know when you're off the "joe thomas sucks and shouldn't play a down in the NFL because i know he sucks" soap box.

I think that's the same soapbox the Vince Young bashers were using.... but since nobody was using it anymore, they just scratched out VY's name and wrote in Joe Thomas.

bearsfan_51
12-27-2006, 05:09 PM
Everybody knows its only between Young, Drew, and Colston so dont add all the extras
That's true except you're completely wrong. Do you even follow the media? It's either going to be Young or Bush. Devin Hester has a better chance of winning than MJD or Colston, like it or not.

Bush has a chance? I was under the impression that one good game wasnt enough to win OROY
Not if you have a media hype machine the size of a freight train behind you.

Listen to any media broadcast sometime. It's between Young and Bush, with Young far ahead at this point.

12-27-2006, 05:12 PM
wow... outlandish statements with no real back-up data... ridiculous claims... god syndrome...

i'm bored. let me know when you're off the "joe thomas sucks and shouldn't play a down in the NFL because i know he sucks" soap box.

I think that's the same soapbox the Vince Young bashers were using.... but since nobody was using it anymore, they just scratched out VY's name and wrote in Joe Thomas.

What? People actually had reasoning to say that VY wouldn't do well in the NFL. You can't say he hasn't been a bad pick yet anyways. A lot of players start out great and then nothing.