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hornybastard
07-30-2007, 03:21 PM
Ok since Bill died I think we all should just put our opinions out their and just say who we think the Greatest NFL Head Coach is of All-Time/

bearsfan_51
07-30-2007, 03:27 PM
In no particular order:

Halas
Lombardi
George Allen
Joe Gibbs
Bill Walsh
Chuck Noll
Bill Bellicheck
Don Shula
Dave Wannstedt

SubNoize
07-30-2007, 03:31 PM
in no order as well:

Madden
Landry
Lombardi
Noll
Walsh
Halas
Shula

CC.SD
07-30-2007, 03:31 PM
Vince Lombardi. Done, over.

hornybastard
07-30-2007, 03:31 PM
1. Vince Lombardi
2. Bill Walsh
3. Chuck Noll
4. Don Shula
5.Tom Landry
6. Paul Brown
7. George Halas
8. Joe Gibbs
9. John Madden
10 George Allen

SubNoize
07-30-2007, 03:33 PM
Vince Lombardi. Done, over.

it's not that simple he's up there, but not the best, he just happens to have his name on the trophy.

22,895
07-30-2007, 03:35 PM
Vince Lombardi. Done, over.

Wow great Football knowledge you bring to the table. ROFL!

ncst8fan83
07-30-2007, 03:35 PM
Don Shula[/thread].....

YAYareaRB
07-30-2007, 03:41 PM
For me, being a offensive type guy.. Bill Walsh is #1.. He single handedly changed the way defenders played by instituting the WCO. It was a great while before defenses caught up with his teachings and it's STILL difficult to stop. He left behind a great coaching 'family tree' which consists of many current Head Coaches today.

RIP

Eaglez.Fan
07-30-2007, 03:51 PM
No doubt, Bill Walsh is number one for me. After that it's wide open.

Turtlepower
07-30-2007, 04:01 PM
Jim Fassell. This is not even an argument.

amag
07-30-2007, 04:05 PM
Joe Torrie

McBain
07-30-2007, 04:45 PM
Jim Fassell. This is not even an argument.

are you kidding me? try Norv Turner, dude.

SubNoize
07-30-2007, 04:52 PM
are you kidding me? try Norv Turner, dude.

the mighty joe bugel says "hello"

draftguru151
07-30-2007, 04:58 PM
In no particular order:

Halas
Lombardi
George Allen
Joe Gibbs
Bill Walsh
Chuck Noll
Bill Bellicheck
Don Shula
Dave Wannstedt

Without a doubt.

neko4
07-30-2007, 05:13 PM
Lombardi
Walsh
Bellicheck
Gibbs
Noll
Shula
Allen
Landry
Madden
Stram

Others:
Seifert?
Holmgren?
Shannahan?
Billick?
Vermil?
Marty?

skinzzfan25
07-30-2007, 05:28 PM
Until Marty wins a title, he's not part of the "elite."

Watchman
07-30-2007, 05:53 PM
the mighty joe bugel says "hello"

Richie Kotite would like a word.

Turtlepower
07-30-2007, 06:04 PM
Bill Parcells anyone???

255979119
07-30-2007, 06:30 PM
Butch Davis for me

BuckNaked
07-30-2007, 06:37 PM
You guys are forgetting Mike Tice. Only a great innovative mind like him would have the balls to scalp tickets when you're on a head coach's salary.

PACKmanN
07-30-2007, 06:50 PM
Mike Martz is not in the elite but he did make the Rams an power house on offense.

wiscbadgerfootball
07-30-2007, 06:53 PM
Vince Lombardi.. the truth and the only truth

HoopsDemon12
07-30-2007, 07:01 PM
Am i the only person that thinks tony dungy is a great coach? i mean look what he turned that defence and franchise into... i know he had great assistants though

iowatreat54
07-30-2007, 07:10 PM
DIIIIIITKA...seriously tho, he is

Hawk
07-30-2007, 07:15 PM
Vince Lombardi
Bill Walsh
Chuck Noll
Don Shula
Mike Sherman
Tom Landry
George Allen
Joe Gibbs
Tom Coughlin
Bill Belichick
Bill Parcells
Art Shell

wiscbadgerfootball
07-30-2007, 07:51 PM
Mike Sherman


lol you like him don't ya?

Hawk
07-30-2007, 08:41 PM
lol you like him don't ya?

what can I say, the man was pure genius

locseti
07-30-2007, 09:08 PM
Art Shell

OK now we're going overboard.

Walsh is the GOAT, for not only his offensive genuis, but for the bonds he formed with his players - His players wanted to win for him because of what he meant to them. Some of those niner teams weren't that talented.

kalbears13
07-30-2007, 09:13 PM
For me, being a offensive type guy.. Bill Walsh is #1.. He single handedly changed the way defenders played by instituting the WCO. It was a great while before defenses caught up with his teachings and it's STILL difficult to stop. He left behind a great coaching 'family tree' which consists of many current Head Coaches today.

RIP

sounds like you copied some of that from sportscenter.

McBain
07-30-2007, 09:28 PM
the mighty joe bugel says "hello"

tell him hello back.

PackerLegend
07-30-2007, 09:39 PM
what can I say, the man was pure genius

you must have missed all of Shermans drafts. He got a few guys but he sucked as GM.

255979119
07-30-2007, 11:40 PM
you must have missed all of Shermans drafts. He got a few guys but he sucked as GM.

I never thought he should have been fired as HC. But they definately needed a change at GM.

YAYareaRB
07-30-2007, 11:42 PM
sounds like you copied some of that from sportscenter.

Naaaah.. Straight off top bro. I'm feeling the loss right now.

flave1969
07-31-2007, 01:44 AM
1. Vince Lombardi
2. Chuck Noll
3. Bill Walsh
4. Joe Gibbs
5. Don Shula
6. Tom Landry
7. George Allen
8. Hank Stram
9. Bill Parcells
10. Bill Belicheck

princefielder28
07-31-2007, 08:40 AM
I never thought he should have been fired as HC. But they definately needed a change at GM.

Sherman deserved to be fired. He was terrible at making adjustments throughout the game and his teams suffered due to that.

kalbears13
07-31-2007, 12:37 PM
Naaaah.. Straight off top bro. I'm feeling the loss right now.

They used some of the same words on sportscenter but I believe that you thought of it yourself.

bigbluedefense
07-31-2007, 07:03 PM
Depends on what you view as a great head coach. What makes a great head coach? To me, a great coach is an innovator. A man who changed the game with his idealogy. He also has to be a motivator. Let's face it, plenty of coaches can draw up plays. I never seen a play designed to NOT work. But the real great head coaches are the ones who can motivate their men to be more than they thought they were, and squeeze the most potential out of them. Being a winner is obviously part of the equation, but is the most overrated aspect of coaching. You are NOT determined by how many championships you won, thats not a fair way to look at coaching.

I love the Xs and Os of the game. Trust me. Ive studied the evolution of defenses and offenses and what not, and most of the coaches that brought about the changes. Some of the greatest minds in the game simply don't get the respect they deserve.

Anyway, in no particular order...


Vince Lombardi
Tom Landry
Bill Parcells
George Halas
Chuck Knoll
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Paul Brown

Those are the guys, who truely innovated and changed the game. The honorable mention guys like Holmgren, Bellichick, Shannahan, etc, theyre guys who had much success with a particular craft, but they don't introduce any innovation to the sport. Thats why in my opinion, you cannot classify them with the names above. Tony Dungy would be on that list of innovators if he was more successful, but for now I put him in the honorable mentions list.

keylime_5
07-31-2007, 08:04 PM
Paul Brown. All the great coaching trees go back to him. He invented the I-Formation and the Facemask, and was the head coach of the Browns' dynasty from the mid 1940s to the mid 1950s. He invented the Bengals and the Browns. He also won a NC at Ohio State in the 40s. Talk about a perfect coach :) !!!

JoeMontainya
08-01-2007, 06:35 PM
Butch Davis has to be up there because he actually got the Browns to the playoffs with Tim Couch as a QB.

Jimmy Johnson > Joe Gibbs IMO.

SubNoize
08-01-2007, 06:39 PM
tell him hello back.

guy is a hell of a line coach, but gives kotite a run for worst head coach ever.

JT Jag
08-01-2007, 07:01 PM
In no order:

Vince Lombardi
Don Shula
Paul Brown
Chuck Knoll
George Allen
Tom Landry
George Halas
Bill Parcells
Tony Dungy
Joe Gibbs
Bill Belichick
Bill Walsh

Hines
08-01-2007, 07:15 PM
if you have tony dungy on a list you have to have bill cowher on imo...


where do you guys place him on your top lists..i have him in the top 15

bigbluedefense
08-02-2007, 10:28 AM
if you have tony dungy on a list you have to have bill cowher on imo...


where do you guys place him on your top lists..i have him in the top 15

Yeah, I can agree with that. He wasn't an innovator by any means, but he was just a plain damn good coach. He would be this generations Marty Schottenheimer however if he didn't win that Superbowl. He's a great coach, but his playoff success and decision making isn't top notch. Alot of ppl forget that since he won the superbowl, but its still true.


Id definately say top 15 though. Can't argue that.

Hines
08-02-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I can agree with that. He wasn't an innovator by any means, but he was just a plain damn good coach. He would be this generations Marty Schottenheimer however if he didn't win that Superbowl. He's a great coach, but his playoff success and decision making isn't top notch. Alot of ppl forget that since he won the superbowl, but its still true.


Id definately say top 15 though. Can't argue that.


and also since he won that ring i think he won himself a hof spot too even though it may take him a little while to get there though since hes not a first ballot type of guy at first

bigbluedefense
08-02-2007, 12:50 PM
and also since he won that ring i think he won himself a hof spot too even though it may take him a little while to get there though since hes not a first ballot type of guy at first

Hmm, I don't know. I think he might be first ballot. His fame is at an all time high right now. And the media loves him.

Hines
08-02-2007, 01:15 PM
Hmm, I don't know. I think he might be first ballot. His fame is at an all time high right now. And the media loves him.

ya thats true but even though i love the man to death and i admit i cried when he retired,i just dont think hes first ballot..if he won at least one more rings then i would say hes a first ballot.(damn neil odonell)..