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MagnumGator
01-01-2007, 07:46 PM
Jim Tressel: 5-1 record, average score 29-23

Pete Carroll: 2-0 record, average score 30-16

4pAc
01-01-2007, 07:48 PM
now that this happened I am completley sure that gators will lose badly on Jan. 8, so I suggest you dont rub it in right now

dcrls
01-01-2007, 07:55 PM
gotta be tressell

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Carroll provided more of an embarrassment though...Michigan lost any bragging rights they thought they still had

Bengalman999
01-01-2007, 08:15 PM
Carrol's played him twice and Tressel plays him every year and beats him

yodabear
01-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Can we just fire him??????

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 08:58 PM
I get a kick out of all these Michigan fans wanting to all but stone Lloyd Carr for losing but when they thought Michigan was going to the NC game they were riding high on him

snuff
01-01-2007, 08:59 PM
I get a kick out of all these Michigan fans wanting to all but stone Lloyd Carr for losing but when they thought Michigan was going to the NC game they were riding high on himBecause we thought he changed... Which seems to not be true.

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 09:02 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

yodabear
01-01-2007, 09:06 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

He has lost 3 in a row now and 3 in a row against Ohio St.

familyguy555
01-01-2007, 09:06 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

...and got embarrassed by a worse team...

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Nope, Michigan was just overrated more than people thought. When USC comes to play I believe they are the best team in the country. The problem is they always don't come to play.

The game wasn't even close...USC could have kicked a field goal at the end but chose too run out the clock instead and the only reason Michigan got their TD in the 4th quarter was because SC put their 2nd string defense in.

I don't mean to stir the pot, but when I see SC play a great game and people from Michigan try to diminish what they accomplished by making excuses for Michigan that irratates me

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 09:22 PM
oh yeah, and who was that person who doubted me about USC being able to shut down Hart?

snuff
01-01-2007, 09:24 PM
USC isn't that great... They have no run game... tOSU would handle them, Michigan should of played them closer.

Once Michigan finallly figured out how to slow down that pass rush they picked USC apart, and same thing for USC.

In my opinion they are almost identical teams with Michigan having a better running game.

Must say that USC's defense matches up perfectly with Michigan's zone blocking which I mentioned earlier worried me.

RWFender1
01-01-2007, 09:27 PM
apparently Michigan didn't have a better run game in the game....Hart was really a non-factor. I agree, USC needs more of a run game but that will change next year.

believe, michigan played like they wanted to win...losing that game was a huge blow for their championship campaign.

i believe USC could hang with Ohio State..I know tOSU didnt hold Michigan to a field goal going into half time!

Xiomera
01-01-2007, 11:01 PM
Jim Tressel obviously

TCU
01-01-2007, 11:18 PM
Jim Tressel obviously

easily Tressel gets him every year, Michigan just didnt come to play today

Bucky
01-02-2007, 10:29 PM
I vote both and whatever coach Michigan plays in a bowl

NickBam
01-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Carroll provided more of an embarrassment though...Michigan lost any bragging rights they thought they still had

5-1 in the last six years to Ohio State is much more unacceptable and most likely more embarassing to Michigan fans.

elway777
01-03-2007, 12:48 AM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

...and got embarrassed by a worse team...

Dont be ignorant,USC had the same talent level Michigan did on the field just more inexperienced.

NickBam
01-03-2007, 12:49 AM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

...and got embarrassed by a worse team...

Dont be ignorant,USC had the same talent level Michigan did on the field just more inexperienced.

USC probably has the most talent from top to bottom then any other program in the nation.

yourfavestoner
01-03-2007, 04:10 AM
Watching the Rose Bowl, it seemed like I was watching the exact same game from 2004. You'd think Carr would have figured it out by now.

Michigan never made any adjustments against USC's blitz happy scheme. No three step drops. No quick passes. No screens. It seemed like they were trying to hit the home run ball on every play. As a result, Henne spent most of the game on his back, just like Navarre did.

keylime_5
01-03-2007, 09:45 AM
Michigan always brings more intensity to the Ohio State game than the USC game.......and Pete has never beaten Carr in Ann Arbor, only in Los Angeles (pasadena, same thing)

diabsoule
01-03-2007, 09:47 AM
I think Pete Carroll does as the statistics point towards it. I think Lloyd Carr might need to go as a Michigan coach.

P-L
01-03-2007, 11:27 AM
Michigan always brings more intensity to the Ohio State game than the USC game.......and Pete has never beaten Carr in Ann Arbor, only in Los Angeles (pasadena, same thing)

Exactly, when Pete Carroll proves he doesn't need a "home game" to beat Michigan then we can talk about him owning Carr. But as of now, Tressell owns Carr.

soybean
01-03-2007, 03:26 PM
You know what's funny, cleveland31 made the exact same thread after the Ohio State game, and he was bashed, the thread was locked and it had to do with his banning.

But... I guess, people think he's right that

(your opinion) Carr should be fired.

soybean
01-03-2007, 03:27 PM
p.s. i dont agree that he should be fired.

soybean
01-03-2007, 03:31 PM
Michigan always brings more intensity to the Ohio State game than the USC game.......and Pete has never beaten Carr in Ann Arbor, only in Los Angeles (pasadena, same thing)

Exactly, when Pete Carroll proves he doesn't need a "home game" to beat Michigan then we can talk about him owning Carr. But as of now, Tressell owns Carr.

cmon do you really think if they played in michigan, navarre, braylon, and chris perry could have ousted leinart bush and mike williams?

T.Smith
01-04-2007, 01:53 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

He has lost 3 in a row now and 3 in a row against Ohio St.
No, his TEAM lost them games, his playcalling is not what killed Michigan, he actually calls some pretty good games.

RWFender1
01-04-2007, 02:17 PM
exactly...i mean look at tOSU game....can you blame the play calling from coaches on a game like that where Michigan lost by 3 points?

If it was ASU's coach who was punting on 4th down with 2 minutes left the answer is yes...but Carr did a great job

keylime_5
01-04-2007, 02:54 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

He has lost 3 in a row now and 3 in a row against Ohio St.
No, his TEAM lost them games, his playcalling is not what killed Michigan, he actually calls some pretty good games.

That may be true, but nonetheless Jim Tressel has outcoached Carr pretty much everytime they played almost

danman253
01-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Tressell by a mile.

yodabear
01-04-2007, 08:57 PM
He's not allowed to lose a bowl game? He still had a damn good season

He has lost 3 in a row now and 3 in a row against Ohio St.
No, his TEAM lost them games, his playcalling is not what killed Michigan, he actually calls some pretty good games.

That may be true, but nonetheless Jim Tressel has outcoached Carr pretty much everytime they played almost

Exactly

Salami
01-18-2007, 08:45 PM
PETE CAROLL

snuff
01-18-2007, 09:04 PM
Jet Lag. He is 1-7 when traveling to the west coast since 98 and the one win was vs 0-12 hawaii.

bigmac076
01-18-2007, 09:50 PM
:evil: this is an evil thread :evil:

Dr Kenny
01-23-2007, 05:49 PM
Tressell

OSU fired Cooper because Carr owned him and so they got a coach that could beat Michigan

Nothing is worse for a Michigan fan that losing to the Buckeyes 5 times in the last 6 years.

2001 Michigan 20 Ohio State 26 Ann Arbor
2002 Michigan 9 Ohio State 14 Columbus
2003 Michigan 35 Ohio State 21 Ann Arbor
2004 Michigan 21 Ohio State 37 Columbus
2005 Michigan 21 Ohio State 25 Ann Arbor
2006 Michigan 39 Ohio State 42 Columbus

04-06 Troy Smith owned them as well!!!

OSU wasn't supposed to win the 2004 meeting!!

And don't forget about the come back in 2005 in Ann Arbor by the Buckeyes

Tressell by a mile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!