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NGSeiler
08-10-2007, 10:52 PM
So with one preseason game in the books, I thought I would post some thoughts on the first half...


Starting off with a penalty on special teams was not the first impression I was hoping the unit would make. That being said, I thought Derek Stanley showed some flashes as a return man, but it's going to be hard for a WR/KR to make this roster with a lot of talent at the receiver spot and Dante Hall basically a lock to return on special teams.
Bulger looked on the money except for the interception, which was basically a pop fly tip. But other than that he was accurate and made good decisions, and I don't think he took any major hits.
Adam Carriker looked like the real deal tonight. He could have done a better job collapsing the pocket against the pass, but he was all over the place defending the run. He got the better of Matt Birk more than once and generally held his ground very well. He seemed to be around the ball quite a bit.
About a week ago, Torry Holt said his knee was at 70%. Either he's now healed completely or he's good at hiding the remaining discomfort, because he was sharp tonight. His first catch - a 13-yarder against Cedric Griffin - was a nice crisp route near the sidelines that looked about as textbook as you could get.
Ron Bartell looked shaky as a starting cornerback tonight. He gave up big plays to Bobby Wade twice, playing off of Wade during the route and then whiffing on the tackle as he closed the gap. Maybe he needs to get the rust out, but I wasn't confident in what I saw in the first quarter.
Brian Leonard looked a little jittery at first, but once the second team was in he did well. His night can probably best be summed up as a mix of a couple short gains combined with a few nice bursts, one for a touchdown. He looked completely comfortable as a receiver out of the backfield as well.
The pass rush seemed rather underwhelming, though that might have been due to a combination of Tarvaris Jackson's scrambling ability as well as the short and intermediate routes the Vikings were running. The jury is out for me, and I'm not worried but it's at least something to watch for in the later games.


Like I said, didn't watch the second half so I didn't get to see many of the third stringers.

KCJ58
08-12-2007, 03:44 PM
Rams are 1-0 in preseason :)

scottyboy
08-12-2007, 03:46 PM
so guys, how sweet is Brian Leonard? now people out of New Jersey are witnesses... :D

KCJ58
08-12-2007, 03:47 PM
the rams next game:

Saturday (Aug. 18th) vs. San Diego Chargers
7PM (CT) On CBS (it will be nationally televised)

KCJ58
08-12-2007, 03:50 PM
so guys, how sweet is Brian Leonard? now people out of New Jersey are witnesses... :D

he was very impressive in his Ram debut his stats:

9 Car 36 Yds 1 TD
5 Rec 30 Yds 0 TD

holtfan92
08-12-2007, 05:15 PM
the rams next game:

Saturday (Aug. 18th) vs. San Diego Chargers
7PM (CT) On CBS (it will be nationally televised)

Sweet.. i'm gonna watch that..want to see some more of our backups including leonard.

yodabear
08-13-2007, 09:54 PM
Some of my observations on the game.

Our backup WRs, specifcally Hagans and the guy out of UW-Whitewater (shoutout to the UW school system) looked good on Friday, that is something I really liked.

Lenord and Ferotte moved the ball well for the time that they were in. Something positive to see if knock on wood, God Forebid Jakson and Bulger were to go down.

Our first stringers not only on offense, but on defense looked well. In fact, our defense won the game, not our offense, that is a rareity in St. Louis football. I know it was the Vikings and all that, but still 10 points is good.

Brock Berlin was good, that is shocking. And Fitzpatrick clearly stunk. Did he complete more passes to the Rams or Vikings? Maybe this year, and not last year, we may have a race for the third string QB.

Some concern:we didn't get a sack. We missed a lot of tackles in which we coulda had losses. Jackson and Thigpen had too much room to scramble. Obviously, Fitzy didn't look good, and god forebid, Bulger gets hurt, and Feortte can get hurt as well, we may need him. If we do, something went terribly wrong. Also, #77, whoever the hell he is was awful, if he makes the team, our OL is pathetic.

And a question for people who know more than me, what does the starting offensive line? Pace is the LT, Barron is the RT, and Timmerman is a a guard. Who is the other guard and center. Is it Setterstrom and Incognito. And if not, who is?

BTRams66
08-14-2007, 01:15 AM
Heres the Starting O-Line

LT Orlando Pace
LG Mark Setterstrom
C Brett Romberg/ Andy McCullum yet to be decided
RG Richie Incognito
RT Alex Barron

The guards may be the wrong way round but I'm sure this is it.

BTRams66
08-14-2007, 01:50 AM
Romberg and McCullum should be an interesting battle.

KCJ58
08-14-2007, 01:51 AM
why would you double post 35 min later also i think McCullum will be the opening day starter but Romberg will end up taking over

yodabear
08-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Why is Incognito starting? Me no like him....

KCJ58
08-14-2007, 03:46 PM
how many rams fans are on NFLDC do we even have double digits yet?

yodabear
08-14-2007, 04:04 PM
how many rams fans are on NFLDC do we even have double digits yet?

I don't know, but u, me, RIG, Freebirds, holtfan, Hawkeye Fan and nflfrillman are like 500 Rams fans rolled into 8.

KCJ58
08-14-2007, 04:06 PM
I don't know, but u, me, RIG, Freebirds, holtfan and nflfrillman are like 200 Rams fans rolled into 7.

Hawkeyefan is also a Rams fan so thats 8

yodabear
08-14-2007, 04:08 PM
Hawkeyefan is also Rams fan so thats 8

Yes, I forgot about him. Sorry about that HF, I swear I did not do that on purpose. Its like 500 Rams fans rolled into 8.

KCJ58
08-14-2007, 04:09 PM
atleast theres 8 rams fans to 1 Seahawk fan (Tubby)

and were gonna win the NFC West and sweep the Seahawks

NGSeiler
08-14-2007, 05:15 PM
also i think McCullum will be the opening day starter but Romberg will end up taking over

Fry has a better chance of taking over long term if McCollum starts now. I don't think Romberg is a long term answer at all.

BTRams66
08-15-2007, 02:22 AM
I'm a Rams fan too.

KCJ58
08-15-2007, 02:23 AM
I'm a Rams fan too.


yes you are but we dont know you yet but im glad to see that your here and that your a rams fan :)

yodabear
08-15-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm a Rams fan too.

Ur a rookie though. But u are like Carriker or Lenord, and not Kevin Lovell, so u are cool.

holtfan92
08-18-2007, 07:57 PM
Our offense is moving pretty well tonight... but its killed by 2 turnovers in 3 drives.

josh07039
08-18-2007, 08:19 PM
The O-line is giving Leonard no holes, its ridiculous.

KCJ58
08-19-2007, 12:17 AM
30-13 hey but its only the preseaon right :)

KCJ58
08-19-2007, 12:20 AM
Next Game for the Rams:

Friday Aug. 24th, @ Oakland Raiders

(On Fox) (9PM CT)

holtfan92
08-19-2007, 12:40 AM
I only watched.. the first 3/4 of the first half... i liked our that our offense did move the ball well.. we have to fix the turnover problem and we should be fine.. leonard was good early on but then our o-line didn't give him much to work with later on.

solid game but a loss is a loss.

BTRams66
08-19-2007, 03:17 AM
I thought it was a performance we better have now rather than later. To me it seemed the first team offense and defense did pretty well aside from the turnovers.

Depth wise the Chargers were too good. Ferotte played longer than I thought and Brok Berlin was given no chance at all. Hagans played well but all in all it was an average game with plenty to work on. As u have said the 2nd o-line just didn't create any running holes and they need to work on that.

SeanTaylorRIP
08-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Hagans better make that roster, or hopefully not so my team can pick him up, Randle El V2, too bad he is short because he had a hell of an arm and mobility, if he were 6-2" he would have been a first round QB, but oh well.

holtfan92
08-19-2007, 03:29 PM
I think he'll make the team.. hes been pretty good in preseason.. i'm liking his production. Hope they don't make the decision based on his height.

yodabear
08-19-2007, 06:37 PM
I watched the first half. It was alright I guess. Defense played pretty well aside from the first drive. Offense was good except the turnovers. Lenord was awesome. Carriker looks beastly. A lot of good things. And another positive, we don't have to worry about playing the big 3 of the Chargers, Pats, and Colts again this year unless we maracliously make the super bowl cuz the Chargers looked awesome. And it was the preseason.

holtfan92
08-19-2007, 07:06 PM
The chargers were playing well.. they have a lot of depth since they creamed us with the 2nd and 3rd teams.

diabsoule
08-21-2007, 01:24 PM
How is Jon Alston looking?

holtfan92
08-24-2007, 11:32 PM
I didn't watch the game tonight.. if anyone can tell me how the team played in the first 3 that would be appreciated.

BTRams66
08-25-2007, 12:27 AM
Let's just say the game didn't go as well as hoped. A 20-10 loss. Bulger was 8-21 and 109yds without a td. Jackson or Holt were inactive and Adam Carriker didn't make a tackle. A few too many penalties on defense and still problems on Special Teams. A 81yd return is not really improving on past weeks.

On the bright side we had 4 sacks, gained 2 turnovers but lost one.

holtfan92
08-25-2007, 12:30 AM
ah.. so not good at all, well at least its preseason. Fixing the mistakes and being affective is a must.. so i hope we can fix them.. in the next game or when the season starts in september.

NGSeiler
08-25-2007, 01:37 AM
On one positive note, we did see the NFL debut of the Leonard Leap.

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/f008c78c-7bef-40ae-8ac5-be21802006b6.jpg

Hermstheman83
09-13-2007, 05:47 PM
Guys...fantasy question: Stephen Jackson vs. SF? Should I take that up with Salary cap? Scared me how bad he did last week...

nfrillman
09-13-2007, 08:36 PM
Guys...fantasy question: Stephen Jackson vs. SF? Should I take that up with Salary cap? Scared me how bad he did last week...

Don't do anything crazy with Jackson based on one game. His stats were significantly better without Pace last season, and the Rams offense also started slow last season. Jackson will be fine, if anything the injury of Pace will lead to the Rams feeling the need to lean on Jackson even more.

yodabear
09-13-2007, 08:39 PM
Don't do anything crazy with Jackson based on one game. His stats were significantly better without Pace last season, and the Rams offense also started slow last season. Jackson will be fine, if anything the injury of Pace will lead to the Rams feeling the need to lean on Jackson even more.

And San Fran struggled against the run last week.