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BigJohn98
08-11-2007, 06:04 PM
But who is the strongest? Call me a homer, but I think FSU defensive tackle Paul Griffin takes the cake. This is a result from the Seminoles strength and conditioning competition.

Bench Press
1. Paul Griffin (6-1/286) ... 520 :eek: :eek: :eek:

Pit Bull #53
08-11-2007, 06:49 PM
Jacques McClendon broke Tennessee's bench press record this summer when he did 555 lbs. He's also a true sophomore.

TACKLE
08-12-2007, 01:21 AM
I want to know how much these guys squat and deadlift. Both are much better indicators of how strong someone is.

Michigan
08-12-2007, 03:43 PM
when did we debate the fastest player in the country?

anyways, Jake Long is certainly in the mix (pretty much every nomination will be a homer pick...)

BigJohn98
08-12-2007, 03:53 PM
when did we debate the fastest player in the country?

anyways, Jake Long is certainly in the mix (pretty much every nomination will be a homer pick...)

Was there not a thread asking who the fastest player in the country was?

HoopsDemon12
08-12-2007, 03:56 PM
Was there not a thread asking who the fastest player in the country was?

ya there was... i gotta think long is one of the strongest players

gstock05
08-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Not really sure about other players, but Marcus Freeman, a 240 lb linebacker broke the OSU hang clean record with a 405 hang clean. That's a pretty rediculous show of strength.

Green Bay Scat
08-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Squat is the most overrated lift, its important but u max out(hit the top) way to fast, plus its inredably bad for your back. I got to 550, but after that everytime i would do reps of 500, my hamys got tight/pulledish. I for one am more for Leg press, but thats just cause i cant squat anymore. 555lbs bench is great, what about reps? we had a LB at Saddleback do 34 reps at 225lbs and hes 220lbs. Pound for pound strength or just straight strength is also a question

jbeans187
08-13-2007, 01:17 AM
when did we debate the fastest player in the country?

anyways, Jake Long is certainly in the mix (pretty much every nomination will be a homer pick...)

He might not be the strongest in the weight room but he has that field strength...kind of like Deion saying the next man speed but in strength

Sniper
08-13-2007, 10:42 AM
Squat is the most overrated lift, its important but u max out(hit the top) way to fast, plus its inredably bad for your back. I got to 550, but after that everytime i would do reps of 500, my hamys got tight/pulledish. I for one am more for Leg press, but thats just cause i cant squat anymore. 555lbs bench is great, what about reps? we had a LB at Saddleback do 34 reps at 225lbs and hes 220lbs. Pound for pound strength or just straight strength is also a question

Wow GBS....Squat is the most overrated? Squat is the most important lift out there. It's only bad for your back if your technique is ****. You do know you can break through plateaus once you think you've reached your max right? Squat most overrated...this guy and his jokes.

Jake Long has man strength. I don't know what his lifts are but he throws people around like rag dolls.

P-L
08-13-2007, 11:32 AM
Actually, there is a player on Michigan that is stronger than Jake Long, and his name is Terrence Taylor. As a junior in HS he won the Michigan state power lifting title and set a record with a combined 1615 lbs lifted in three events. He squatted 610 lbs, dead lifted 620 lbs, and benched 385 lbs. His personal best in High School was squatting 625 lbs.

Xonraider
08-13-2007, 04:04 PM
we should have a slowest player thread...

mqtirishfan
08-13-2007, 04:38 PM
Squat is the most overrated lift, its important but u max out(hit the top) way to fast, plus its inredably bad for your back. I got to 550, but after that everytime i would do reps of 500, my hamys got tight/pulledish. I for one am more for Leg press, but thats just cause i cant squat anymore. 555lbs bench is great, what about reps? we had a LB at Saddleback do 34 reps at 225lbs and hes 220lbs. Pound for pound strength or just straight strength is also a question

Proper squats aren't all that bad for your back. Obviously once you get into the 500+ range, you're asking for trouble, because keeping form gets pretty difficult, and it gets tough on the muscles you use, just like any other lift. A little less weight and more reps is better for football, but the squat is a very important lift.

I would even venture out there and say that the leg press is far more dangerous than a squat is. If you do both of them right, you're fine. If you mess up a leg press, you can screw the heck out of your knees.

Primetime21
08-13-2007, 04:59 PM
Squat is the most overrated lift, its important but u max out(hit the top) way to fast, plus its inredably bad for your back. I got to 550, but after that everytime i would do reps of 500, my hamys got tight/pulledish. I for one am more for Leg press, but thats just cause i cant squat anymore. 555lbs bench is great, what about reps? we had a LB at Saddleback do 34 reps at 225lbs and hes 220lbs. Pound for pound strength or just straight strength is also a question

On my High School team we had a 5'6'' 150 LB(Runs a 4.6) do squated 40 reps of 225 lbs. That was when he was a sophmore. Also our QB did 205 32 times.

draftguru151
08-13-2007, 06:20 PM
40? One of the strongest players in South Florida last year, Kevin Bryant, got like 43 reps at 6-6 380. For some reason I doubt a 150 kid did it 40 times.

jbeans187
08-13-2007, 07:55 PM
40? One of the strongest players in South Florida last year, Kevin Bryant, got like 43 reps at 6-6 380. For some reason I doubt a 150 kid did it 40 times.

Probabally didnt go down all the way. But u never know, people that are short and stocky have a great advantage in the weight room

srv fan
08-14-2007, 12:18 AM
Probabally didnt go down all the way. But u never know, people that are short and stocky have a great advantage in the weight room

5'6 150 for a linebacker isn't short and stocky. It's freaking Pee Wee Herman sized. Honestly, that's small for JV... or even middle school...

energizerbunny
08-15-2007, 12:03 PM
Chris Pressley, FB for Wisconsin has some pretty insane strength.
This a vid of him squating over 600 pounds 10 times
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s6uuVVTLmHA

Paranoidmoonduck
08-15-2007, 05:07 PM
5'6 150 for a linebacker isn't short and stocky. It's freaking Pee Wee Herman sized. Honestly, that's small for JV... or even middle school...

It's small for a linebacker, but there are top notch high school wrestlers who can lift an asston of weight and are even smaller than 5-6 150. I've seen a guy about that size put up 36 reps of 225, so I don't doubt 4 more is possible.

gstock05
08-15-2007, 09:10 PM
5'6 150 might not be heavy, but thats at least fairly stocky given the height.

Secondly, leg presses ARE worse for you than squats given proper form.


Squats are very efficient and safe exercises, and one of the most important athletic training lifts there is. However, having bad form, using a smith machine, using a weight belt too much, or simply squatting more than you're able to is going to screw up your back. Although as someone said, any time you get into the 400+ range for a lift, it starts to get a bit dangerous in terms of injuries.

V. Young
08-17-2007, 01:09 PM
Chris Pressley, FB for Wisconsin has some pretty insane strength.
This a vid of him squating over 600 pounds 10 times
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s6uuVVTLmHA

He only squated that 9 times..doesnt matter tho thats amazing. I will remember that chris pressely.

djp
08-17-2007, 03:35 PM
On my High School team we had a 5'6'' 150 LB(Runs a 4.6) do 40 reps of 225 lbs. That was when he was a sophmore. Also our QB did 205 32 times.

That is the biggest hunk of **** I have read in awhile. 90% of NFL offensive lineman can't do 40 reps of 225.

draftguru151
08-17-2007, 08:30 PM
That is the biggest hunk of **** I have read in awhile. 90% of NFL offensive lineman can't do 40 reps of 225.

Wow, I thought it was 185, not 225. Bryant did 40 reps of 185.

T.Smith
08-18-2007, 05:05 PM
Strongest on the feild could possibly be Vernon Gholston, he ripped through Jake Long last year. He def. passes the look test.

Primetime21
08-19-2007, 10:38 PM
That is the biggest hunk of **** I have read in awhile. 90% of NFL offensive lineman can't do 40 reps of 225.

Well when he is that short it is not to hard to get down. Trust me he is Simoen(spelling) and is the hardest worker on the team. He may be like 165 but he is still small. Ohh and I am talking about sqauts thats why I quoted a paragraph about squating. LOL at that kind of numbers with bench.

mqtirishfan
08-20-2007, 07:16 PM
Well when he is that short it is not to hard to get down. Trust me he is Simoen(spelling) and is the hardest worker on the team. He may be like 165 but he is still small. Ohh and I am talking about sqauts thats why I quoted a paragraph about squating. LOL at that kind of numbers with bench.

40 reps in the squat at 225 is insane, especially as a 165 pound high schooler.