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theskyandthejets
01-03-2007, 12:44 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan, but outcoached them and won the Rose Bowl.
Boise State did the same to Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.
Notre Dame can continue the trend in the Sugar.

LSU has a lot more talent than Notre Dame, but ND has Charlie Weis.

The matchup between Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell (the first two QBs to be chosen in the 07 Draft?) should be a great one to watch too. Quinn is better, but he will be shut down by LSU's secondary and hit often by their pass rush. Russell should have a field day.

LSU 34, Notre Dame 14

NickBam
01-03-2007, 12:47 AM
USC less talent then Michigan? Really? Both school had talent all over the place, USC's was just less experienced.

LSU 31
ND 21

elway777
01-03-2007, 12:51 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

NickBam
01-03-2007, 12:52 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.

elway777
01-03-2007, 12:55 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,Frostee Rucker, and Lajaun Ramsey who are all playing in the NFL.

NickBam
01-03-2007, 12:56 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.

YAYareaRB
01-03-2007, 01:07 AM
Brady Quinn and the Notre Dame O-Line has good games against defenses with average to good pass rushes. Charlie Weis has his big boys coached pretty well on how to protect the golden boy, but they haven't faced anything like LSU's pass rush and "front heavy" defense. Of course, LeRon Landry holds his own, But the defensive line of LSU brings the pressure. To break it down, Jamarcus Russell needs time and needs to get the ball to the 3 playmakers Doucet, Davis, and Bowe.

LSU 34
Notre Dame 13

snuff
01-03-2007, 01:10 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.Ohio State? Are you joking?

TIP
01-03-2007, 01:14 AM
This game will be closer than you think 35-31

NickBam
01-03-2007, 01:14 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan.


Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.Ohio State? Are you joking?

We did replace 9 starters on defense, that turned out pretty well for us.

RWFender1
01-03-2007, 01:19 AM
I think Michigan is a great team but I believe 100 percent that USC is loaded with more talent...just like what some of you guys already said, less experienced

theskyandthejets
01-03-2007, 01:44 AM
yeah what i meant was that michigan was returning talent at the key skill positions and had the best players on the field offensively and defensively (hart and woodley). i know that usc is reeaally talented. but then...that's not very relevant to the sugar bowl.

4pAc
01-03-2007, 02:19 AM
it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

theskyandthejets
01-03-2007, 02:46 AM
it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

Miles hasn't really turned to his rushing offense to win games. LSU did not have a single 500 yard rusher on their team. JaMarcus Russell and his 3 wideouts have emerged to become the stars of the offense and have consistently put up 40+ points against bad secondaries.

The only way it's close is if ND can get the early lead, find the running game they never had, and stave off LSU's passing attack.

4pAc
01-03-2007, 02:53 AM
it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

Miles hasn't really turned to his rushing offense to win games. LSU did not have a single 500 yard rusher on their team. JaMarcus Russell and his 3 wideouts have emerged to become the stars of the offense and have consistently put up 40+ points against bad secondaries.

The only way it's close is if ND can get the early lead, find the running game they never had, and stave off LSU's passing attack.Yeah but he uses a bunch of diferent runners and I never said they won games with their rushing, he just commits to it no matter how bad it's doing. It won't be a blowout but LSU will win decisively

yourfavestoner
01-03-2007, 03:19 AM
USC was less talented than Michigan, but outcoached them and won the Rose Bowl.
Boise State did the same to Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.
Notre Dame can continue the trend in the Sugar.

LSU has a lot more talent than Notre Dame, but ND has Charlie Weis.

The matchup between Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell (the first two QBs to be chosen in the 07 Draft?) should be a great one to watch too. Quinn is better, but he will be shut down by LSU's secondary and hit often by their pass rush. Russell should have a field day.

LSU 34, Notre Dame 14

ND has Charlie Weis? You mean the guy that hasn't beaten a ranked team in two years at Notre Dame?

The huge amount of time off that teams have before their Bowl Game usually hinders offenses early in the game. That favors LSU, as their defense is already dominant, and Notre Dame probably won't be able to jump out with a quick lead on them.

NickBam
01-03-2007, 03:24 AM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

4pAc
01-03-2007, 03:31 AM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?well he broke the species barrier by becoming the first whale to coach in college football

iworshipbender
01-03-2007, 03:55 AM
the media is facinated by his sweaty/snotty upper lip

yourfavestoner
01-03-2007, 04:06 AM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think that he deserves a lot of credit, but not the type of credit that people give him.

People have hailed him as the man who has brought Notre Dame back to greatness. What greatness? Like I said, he has lost to every ranked team he has played against.

The credit he should be given is that without him and Quinn, Notre Dame would probably have a losing record.

soybean
01-03-2007, 04:51 AM
Jamarcus Russell is gonna choke. It'll be a close game, i hope ND beats em though.

RyanLeaf#1
01-03-2007, 08:01 AM
Im a big Notre Dame fan... and personally I dont think they have any chance tonight.

Jughead10
01-03-2007, 08:06 AM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think he is going to do something special tonight. He hasn't really done anything shocking or really inventive to catch people off guard like he used to do with the Pats yet. I think he pulls out all the stops tonight in a lot of his seniors last game.

Jughead10
01-03-2007, 08:07 AM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think that he deserves a lot of credit, but not the type of credit that people give him.

People have hailed him as the man who has brought Notre Dame back to greatness. What greatness? Like I said, he has lost to every ranked team he has played against.

The credit he should be given is that without him and Quinn, Notre Dame would probably have a losing record.

Thats not true.

diabsoule
01-03-2007, 09:48 AM
I don't think Notre Dame has the talent level to play with LSU, especially in LSU's back yard.

therock6000
01-03-2007, 09:58 AM
LSU by seven...teen :cry:

Jughead10
01-03-2007, 10:01 AM
Man the Notre Dame fans are down this year. All the Irish fans thought last year they were going to beat Ohio St. and I wasn't nearly convinced about that. But I think they definately have a better shot this year than they did last year against Ohio St.

The main matchup to me will be if and that is a big IF, the Notre Dame O-line can handle what LSU has up front on defense.

therock6000
01-03-2007, 10:04 AM
Man the Notre Dame fans are down this year. All the Irish fans thought last year they were going to beat Ohio St. and I wasn't nearly convinced about that. But I think they definately have a better shot this year than they did last year against Ohio St.

The main matchup to me will be if and that is a big IF, the Notre Dame O-line can handle what LSU has up front on defense.

last year we beat michigan and nearly beat USC...this year they killed us. throw in the dismantling at the fiesta last year and there isn't any proof that we can hang with a top program. we're not trying to be down...we are just trying to be realistic.

Jughead10
01-03-2007, 10:08 AM
Man the Notre Dame fans are down this year. All the Irish fans thought last year they were going to beat Ohio St. and I wasn't nearly convinced about that. But I think they definately have a better shot this year than they did last year against Ohio St.

The main matchup to me will be if and that is a big IF, the Notre Dame O-line can handle what LSU has up front on defense.

last year we beat michigan and nearly beat USC...this year they killed us. throw in the dismantling at the fiesta last year and there isn't any proof that we can hang with a top program. we're not trying to be down...we are just trying to be realistic.

I think everyone is just a year behind. Should have been more realistic last year. Realisticly we have a much better shot at beating LSU than we did Ohio St.

BuckeyeNation27
01-03-2007, 01:02 PM
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think he is going to do something special tonight. He hasn't really done anything shocking or really inventive to catch people off guard like he used to do with the Pats yet. I think he pulls out all the stops tonight in a lot of his seniors last game.you mean something like have a dominating defense that wins games for you, yet your QB gets all the credit for it?

TCU
01-03-2007, 01:18 PM
No upset this game should be like all other ND bowl games

2001- Fiesta Bowl - Chad Johnson 93 yards 2 TDs - 41 to 9 ND got owned
2004- Insight Bowl - Joe Newton 86 yard 2 TDs- ND looses
2006- Fista Bowl - Ted Ginn 240 2 TDs - ND got owned
2007- Sugar Bowl - Should be no different Dwayne Bowe should get 150 and a TD as Notre Dame gets owned

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
01-03-2007, 01:54 PM
When LSU plays the way they can, they are the best team in the SEC.

keylime_5
01-03-2007, 02:02 PM
USC is not less talented than Michigan, just less experienced. But I have to admit USC is the runaway favorite to win the title in 2007-08. LSU is gonna win tonight because they have really fast WRs and a QB who throws possibly the best deep ball in college