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7-11
08-23-2007, 07:23 PM
After all these threads about the all-division teams i think the next natural progression is to ask who you think has the best divisional team. this isnt necassarily the strongest division but which division can put the best 1st string team on the field

discuss

Smooth Criminal
08-23-2007, 07:41 PM
Well the AFCN has a very good and versatile defense but there are some clear holes along the offensive line.

I think the AFCW and the NFCE have some stacked rosters aswell.

skinzzfan25
08-23-2007, 08:22 PM
The NFCE has probably one of the best if not the best O-line. The defensive backfield is also stacked at every position, especially safety. Not to mention Portis and Westbrook are both about top 7 runningbacks.

PalmerToCJ
08-23-2007, 08:32 PM
Only real hole in the AFCN OL I see is Center.

The only low talent spots we have are at CB and WR. CB isn't anything special and CJ/TJ are the only premier WR's right now (Hines had an off year, Braylon/Santonio/Ravens WR's have a way to go). Then we don't have a real dominant CB, some vets and Joseph has solid potential but he's only played one year.

Michigan
08-23-2007, 09:00 PM
The only low talent spots we have are at CB and WR. CB isn't anything special and CJ/TJ are the only premier WR's right now (Hines had an off year, Braylon/Santonio/Ravens WR's have a way to go). Then we don't have a real dominant CB, some vets and Joseph has solid potential but he's only played one year.

You think TJ is a better talent than Braylon? Please.

PalmerToCJ
08-23-2007, 09:08 PM
You think TJ is a better talent than Braylon? Please.

TJ is a more productive WR than Braylon Edwards, yes.

PoopSandwich
08-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Only real hole in the AFCN OL I see is Center.

The only low talent spots we have are at CB and WR. CB isn't anything special and CJ/TJ are the only premier WR's right now (Hines had an off year, Braylon/Santonio/Ravens WR's have a way to go). Then we don't have a real dominant CB, some vets and Joseph has solid potential but he's only played one year.

Leigh Bodden and Chris McCallister?

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-23-2007, 09:12 PM
AFC West is very good. Best RBs, best TEs, best CBs.

PalmerToCJ
08-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Leigh Bodden and Chris McCallister?

Woops, forgot McAlister... Knowing I forgot McAlister now I really think we're only really a little weak at WR.

Flyboy
08-23-2007, 09:23 PM
I'd probably say the AFC West with the AFC East being not far behind.

BrownsTown
08-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I know I sound like a homer, but when you have the best defensive team and at least a top 3 offensive team in the same division with a recent Super Bowl winner thrown in, the AFC North is pretty stacked.

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 09:29 PM
I like NFC West

Shiver
08-23-2007, 09:47 PM
The NFC South has to be up there for the best offense, I feel.

QB - Drew Brees

RB - Deuce McAllister

FB - Ovie Mughelli

TE - Alge Crumpler

RB/WR - Reggie Bush

WR - Steve Smith

WR - Marques Colston

WR - Joey Galloway

LT - Jammal Brown
LG - Mike Wahle
OC - Todd McClure
RG - Davin Joseph
RT - Jordan Gross

PalmerToCJ
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
I know I sound like a homer, but when you have the best defensive team and at least a top 3 offensive team in the same division with a recent Super Bowl winner thrown in, the AFC North is pretty stacked.

I think it's a tossup between the AFCN and AFCW. North has the better QB while the West has amazing RB's/TE's but they're really desperate at WR.

M.O.T.H.
08-23-2007, 09:54 PM
AFC West is very good. Best RBs, best TEs, best CBs.

You will find the best TE's as a whole in the NFC East

Witten
Shockey
Cooley
Smith

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-23-2007, 09:57 PM
You will find the best TE's as a whole in the NFC East

Witten
Shockey
Cooley
Smith

Overall yes, but in a game, the team probably wouldn't use more than 2 TEs, 3 at the most. Gates and Gonzo, I would probably take over Witten and Shockey. But as a whole, yes, the NFC East TEs are the best.

Flyboy
08-23-2007, 10:02 PM
The NFC South has to be up there for the best offense, I feel.

QB - Drew Brees

RB - Deuce McAllister

FB - Ovie Mughelli

TE - Alge Crumpler

RB/WR - Reggie Bush

WR - Steve Smith

WR - Marques Colston

WR - Joey Galloway

LT - Jammal Brown
LG - Mike Wahle
OC - Todd McClure
RG - Davin Joseph
RT - Jordan Gross

Um, how do you NOT have Mike Karney has the FB? And, Evans > Joseph.

BuckNaked
08-23-2007, 10:08 PM
I can say one thing with complete confidence, it will not be the NFC North.

Shiver
08-23-2007, 10:19 PM
Um, how do you NOT have Mike Karney has the FB? And, Evans > Joseph.

Because Ovie Mughelli was 2nd team All-Pro last year, behind only Lorenzo Neal.... Besides, you guys have half the starting offensive lineup so be happy.

As for "Evans > Joseph," I'll agree to disagree, as I think Joseph has top-5 potential as a Guard. Evans did more as a rookie, but I think Joseph passes him this year.

Flyboy
08-23-2007, 10:23 PM
Evans does too... but I guess we shall see.

Auron
08-23-2007, 10:31 PM
Evans was arguably our best Offensive linemen last season along with Jammal Brown. Stats Inc. (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=7857&Submit=Go) He gave up 0.5 of a sack the entire season as a rookie, and had only 2 holding penalties as a rookie, and this kid is a mauler, with a mean streak. He tries to destroy his opponent after every play.

Maybe Mughelli is a better pure blocker than Karney, but Karney is very underrated in his own respect. He also has another dimension to his game that a lot of fullbacks don't. He has versatility as a receiving threat out of the backfield, and he makes a great safety valve target to check down to. When he turns and runs with his pads lowered, he's very hard to bring down and can probably just push for an extra few yards at will.

diabsoule
08-23-2007, 10:51 PM
What's the NFC South's defense look like?

LDE - Julius Peppers
Backup - Charles Grant
DT - Chris Hovan
Backup - Hollis Thomas
DT - Rod Coleman
Backup - Grady Jackson
RDE - Will Smith
Backup - Mike Rucker

LB - Michael Boley
Backup - Cato June
LB - Keith Brooking
Backup - Barrett Ruud
LB - Derrick Brooks
Backup - DeMorrio Williams

CB - Ronde Barber
CB - Richard Marshall/DeAngelo Hall

FS - Josh Bullocks/Jimmy Williams
SS - Lawyer Milloy

What do you guys think?

scar988
08-23-2007, 10:52 PM
After all these threads about the all-division teams i think the next natural progression is to ask who you think has the best divisional team. this isnt necassarily the strongest division but which division can put the best 1st string team on the field

discuss

NFC South easy:

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Norwood/Bush/McAllister/D.Williams/C.Williams/Foster/Dunn
FB - Mughelli
WR - Colston/Jenkins
WR - Smith/Galloway
TE - Crumpler
LT - Jamaal Brown
LG - Davin Joseph
C - Todd McClure
RG - Kynan Forney
RT - Jordan Gross

LE - Peppers/Smith/Anderson/Spires
NT - Jackson/Kemoeatu/Hovan
UT - Jenkins/Coleman
RE - Abraham/Adams/Grant/Rucker
WLB - Brooks/June
MLB - Brooking/Morgan/
SLB - Boley/Draft
LCB - Hall/Lucas/Kelly
RCB - Barber/McKenzie/Gamble
FS - Bullocks/Williams/Jackson
SS - Milloy/Harper

Auron
08-23-2007, 10:55 PM
Ouch the NFC South is really hurting at the Safety spot if Josh Bullocks, and Lawyer Milloy are starting for us. :(

BrownsTown
08-23-2007, 10:56 PM
NFC South easy:

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Norwood/Bush/McAllister/D.Williams/C.Williams/Foster/Dunn
FB - Mughelli
WR - Colston/Jenkins
WR - Smith/Galloway
TE - Crumpler
LT - Jamaal Brown
LG - Davin Joseph
C - Todd McClure
RG - Kynan Forney
RT - Jordan Gross

LE - Peppers/Smith/Anderson/Spires
NT - Jackson/Kemoeatu/Hovan
UT - Jenkins/Coleman
RE - Abraham/Adams/Grant/Rucker
WLB - Brooks/June
MLB - Brooking/Morgan/
SLB - Boley/Draft
LCB - Hall/Lucas/Kelly
RCB - Barber/McKenzie/Gamble
FS - Bullocks/Williams/Jackson
SS - Milloy/Harper

Excuse me, how is it 'NFC South Easy'? The AFC West, NFC West, AFC North, and the NFC East all have better rosters than that. That offense isn't very good compared to the others.

diabsoule
08-23-2007, 11:03 PM
I don't know if the NFC South would be the best but we'd definitely put up a fight every week. I think we need to get some of the guys available for each of the divisions and we can go head to head in the Fantasy thread and vote on who we think would win and break it down after each division has battled.

diabsoule
08-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Ouch the NFC South is really hurting at the Safety spot if Josh Bullocks, and Lawyer Milloy are starting for us. :(

Yeah, I know. I noticed that when I was piecing together the defense just how shoddy the safeties in the NFC South are.

Man_Of_Steel
08-23-2007, 11:29 PM
AFC North, prob the best o-line and d-lines as well as LBs and S. this should be a poll lol.

doingthisinsteadofwork
08-23-2007, 11:30 PM
AFC West hands down.

7-11
08-23-2007, 11:53 PM
I don't know if the NFC South would be the best but we'd definitely put up a fight every week. I think we need to get some of the guys available for each of the divisions and we can go head to head in the Fantasy thread and vote on who we think would win and break it down after each division has battled.

Thats kinda what i wanted to do but i only really come on here when im at work, and i dont think my boss would like me too much if i organised something like that

Average OT LB
08-24-2007, 03:15 AM
In the afc west there are

The number 1 and number 2 (arguably) RBs
Pro Bowl QB
Best blocking FB
Top 2 TE's
Best CB, plus law,bly
John Freakin Lynch
Best OLB
Top 5 LT
Best DT
Arguably best blocking WR

yea, enough to be at least one of the top 2 divisions, id say best but the AFC North is a high quality argument

bored of education
08-24-2007, 06:51 AM
Too say the AFC West is not the best is crazy. Merrimam, LJ, Donnie Edwards, LDT, Gates, Scrabble, Champ Bailey, John Lynch, Quintin Jammer, Brian Waters, Marcus Mcneil, Philip Rivers, Javon Walker, Lorenzo Neal, Tom Nalen. Shaun Phillips, Kirk Morrison, Derrick Burgess, Tony G, Huff, Pollard, Page, Derrick Johnson, Marlon Mcree, Mike goff, Shane Olivea, Jamal Williams, Warren Sapp, Matt Lepsis, Vincent Jackson, Eddie Kennison, Travis Henry, Luis Castillo, Jerry Porter


I really don't see any league close.

Smooth Criminal
08-24-2007, 09:04 AM
half the people you listed are average at best.

We should have a playoff like tournament. North battles south and east against west. Well post both rosters and let people vote. And that would eventually take us to the superbowl.

23trufant
08-24-2007, 09:32 AM
NFC West may not be number one but imo they are top 3.

princefielder28
08-24-2007, 09:58 AM
half the people you listed are average at best.

We should have a playoff like tournament. North battles south and east against west. Well post both rosters and let people vote. And that would eventually take us to the superbowl.

If the team boards are changed each division should come up with the best team possible that they can agree on and then we can do battle from there

neko4
08-24-2007, 10:08 AM
NFC West may not be number one but imo they are top 3.

best RB's, Gore, Jackson, Alexander, and Edge


NFC North all the way!

neko4
08-24-2007, 10:13 AM
QB's
AFC North:
palmer,roethlisburger, Mcnair, Frye

AFC East:
Brady, Losman, Pennington, Green

AFC South:
Manning, Young, Leftwich, Schaub

AFC West:
Cutler, Rivers, Huard, Culpepper

NFC North:
Favre, Kitna, Grosman, Jackson

NFC East:
McNabb, Romo, Campbell, Eli

NFC South:
Brees, Garcia, Delhomme, Harrington

NFC West:
Bulger, Hassleback, Smith, Leinart

LonghornsLegend
08-24-2007, 10:27 AM
NFC East

QB: Mcnabb
RB:Westbrook/Portis/Barber
FB: ?
WR: TO/Santana Moss/Buress
TE: Shockey/Witten


Pretty solid position players...

on defense the Dline would be solid, no real superstars...our safeties would probably be the strength of the defense...


Taylor/Landry/Roy Williams/Dawkins

bored of education
08-24-2007, 10:45 AM
Too say the AFC West is not the best is crazy. Merrimam, LJ, Donnie Edwards, LDT, Gates, Scrabble, Champ Bailey, John Lynch, Quintin Jammer, Brian Waters, Marcus Mcneil, Philip Rivers, Javon Walker, Lorenzo Neal, Tom Nalen. Shaun Phillips, Kirk Morrison, Derrick Burgess, Tony G, Derrick Johnson, Jamal Williams, Warren Sapp, Matt Lepsis, Travis Henry, Luis Castillo


I really don't see any league close.


ok their you go i took out the average guys

skinzzfan25
08-24-2007, 11:07 AM
NFC East

QB: Mcnabb
RB:Westbrook/Portis/Barber
FB: ?
WR: TO/Santana Moss/Buress
TE: Shockey/Witten


Pretty solid position players...

on defense the Dline would be solid, no real superstars...our safeties would probably be the strength of the defense...


Taylor/Landry/Roy Williams/Dawkins

No Barber lol

FB would most likely be Mike Sellers. The corners would also be nice with Lito, Newman, and Springs.

BrownsTown
08-24-2007, 11:34 AM
This'd be a great poll to start. If a fan from each division could post their all division roster I'll compound them into a poll (If a poll can have that many options.)

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 11:39 AM
OFFENSE:

QB: Donovan McNabb (PHI)
RB: Brian Westbrook (PHI), Clinton Portis (WAS)
FB: Mike Sellers (WAS)
WR: Terrell Owens (DAL)
WR: Plaxico Burress (NYG)
TE: Jeremy Shockey (NYG)
LT: Chris Samuels (WAS)
LG: Chris Snee(NYG)
C: Sean O'Hara
RG: Shawn Andrews (PHI)
RT: Jon Runyan (PHI)

K: David Akers (PHI)
P: Mat McBriar (DAL)

DEFENSE (4-3, because only Dallas uses the 3-4)

DE: Michael Strahan (NYG)
DT: Jason Ferguson (DAL)
DT: Mike Patterson (PHI)
DE: Osi Umenyiora (NYG)
OLB: Marcus Washington (WAS)
MLB: Antonio Pierce (NYG)
OLB: DeMarcus Ware (DAL)
CB: Terence Newman (DAL)
CB: Lito Sheppard (PHI)
SS: Roy Williams (DAL)
FS: Brian Dawkins (PHI)

This is Modano's list from the NFC East thread except for a few bolded picks that I changed. I think that people over look how stacked our defense is with the exception of DT.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-24-2007, 11:46 AM
All a poll would show is who is a fan of what division. I think only NFC Northers have admitted their division wouldn't win.

Shane P. Hallam
08-24-2007, 11:56 AM
I'll take a crack at the AFC North. Best? Maybe not, but they could compete:

QB: Carson Palmer/Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Rudi Johnson/Willie Parker/Willis McGahee
WR: Chad Johnson/Hines Ward/Mark Clayton
WR: TJ Houshmandzadeh/Braylon Edwards/Santonio Holmes
TE: Kellen Winslow/Todd Heap
OT: Jonathan Ogden
OG: Alan Faneca
C: Mike Flynn (LeCharles Bentley? :P)
OG: Eric Steinbach
OT: Willie Anderson
DE: Aaron Smith
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Terrell Suggs
ILB: Ray Lewis/James Farrior
ILB: Andra Davis
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley
CB: Chris McAllister/Deltha O'Neal
CB: Leigh Bodden/Jonathan Joseph
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu/Sean Jones

PalmerToCJ
08-24-2007, 11:58 AM
All a poll would show is who is a fan of what division. I think only NFC Northers have admitted their division wouldn't win.

Yeah, I can't believe the amount of homerism in a thread about who's division is best... I mean I'm sure some people have bashed players to rivals fans that they're now promoting for why their division is so good.

I really don't see any hands down winner but it's hard to argue it's not between the two best divisions in football (AFCN/AFCW).

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 12:00 PM
I'll take a crack at the AFC North. Best? Maybe not, but they could compete:

QB: Carson Palmer/Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Rudi Johnson/Willie Parker/Willis McGahee
WR: Chad Johnson/Hines Ward/Mark Clayton
WR: TJ Houshmandzadeh/Braylon Edwards/Santonio Holmes
TE: Kellen Winslow/Todd Heap
OT: Jonathan Ogden
OG: Alan Faneca
C: Mike Flynn (LeCharles Bentley? :P)
OG: Eric Steinbach
OT: Willie Anderson
DE: Aaron Smith
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Terrell Suggs
ILB: Ray Lewis/James Farrior
ILB: Andra Davis
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley
CB: Chris McAllister/Deltha O'Neal
CB: Leigh Bodden/Jonathan Joseph
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu/Sean Jones

Yeah, that CB core has a lot to be desired, but that seems like a good list. The only thing that I would change is switching Heap and Winslow.

'cuse-213
08-24-2007, 12:02 PM
AFC East, oh i dont know:

QB - Tom Brady
RB - Jones/Maroney/Brown
FB - Cory Schlesigner
WR - Lee Evans/Coles
WR - Moss
TE - Ben Watson
LT - Jason Peters
LG - Logan Mankins
C - Mangold
RG -
RT -

DE - Ty Warren
NT - Vince Wilfork
DE - Richard Seymour
OLB - Jason Taylor
MLB - Vilma
MLB - Bruschi
OLB - Adalius Thomas
CB - Asante Samuel
CB - Dyson
FS - Kerry Rhodes
SS - Donte Whitner

The Great Jonathan Vilma
08-24-2007, 12:08 PM
You think TJ is a better talent than Braylon? Please.

no doubt in my mind at this point.....

Average OT LB
08-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Most talented divisions

1. AFC West/North
2. Other AFC teams
3. vacant
4. NFC teams..

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 12:12 PM
You think TJ is a better talent than Braylon? Please.

I think that TJ is better at this moment. I believe that Braylon will eventually be better, but do to poor QBs and injuries, TJ takes the nod at the moment. It is the same belief that I have with Andre Johnson being a top 5 WR in the NFL, but he isn't right now just because he has never had a good enough QB or team around him.

PalmerToCJ
08-24-2007, 12:14 PM
pot?

meet kettle.

=P

lol yeah I know but if someone argues it's the AFCW I can take that. I think it was unanimously agreed upon that the AFCN was one of the top 2 divisions therefore it was ok :D

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 12:16 PM
lol yeah I know but if someone argues it's the AFCW I can take that. I think it was unanimously agreed upon that the AFCN was one of the top 2 divisions therefore it was ok :D

I say we should just create a pre-season all-american team for the NFL like the ones that are going on for college football. If someone started that then I think that would be cool and much less homerish than this thread.

comahan
08-24-2007, 12:30 PM
AFC South of course.

>_>

Shane P. Hallam
08-24-2007, 12:32 PM
Ah, but the homerism makes it fun!

Shiver
08-24-2007, 01:04 PM
What's the NFC South's defense look like?

LDE - Julius Peppers
Backup - Charles Grant
DT - Chris Hovan
Backup - Hollis Thomas
DT - Rod Coleman
Backup - Grady Jackson
RDE - Will Smith
Backup - Mike Rucker

LB - Michael Boley
Backup - Cato June
LB - Keith Brooking
Backup - Barrett Ruud
LB - Derrick Brooks
Backup - DeMorrio Williams

CB - Ronde Barber
CB - Richard Marshall/DeAngelo Hall

FS - Josh Bullocks/Jimmy Williams
SS - Lawyer Milloy

What do you guys think?


A few things I would change.


Jermaine Phillips over Lawyer Milloy
Thomas Davis over Cato June as a reserve
How is Kris Jenkins not the starting DT, let alone not on the all-South defense?

The Unseen
08-24-2007, 01:15 PM
AFC South of course.

>_>

http://www.ugo.com/versus/images/characters/gallery_Napoleon_Dynamite_1.jpg

Heck yes!

YAYareaRB
08-24-2007, 01:19 PM
NFC WEST is talented would have a loaded running back corp.

neko4
08-24-2007, 01:23 PM
I say we should just create a pre-season all-american team for the NFL like the ones that are going on for college football. If someone started that then I think that would be cool and much less homerish than this thread.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12212
Done!

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-24-2007, 01:27 PM
http://www.ugo.com/versus/images/characters/gallery_Napoleon_Dynamite_1.jpg

Heck yes!

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif

PackerLegend
08-24-2007, 01:27 PM
NFC NORTH # 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok so we are a little weak but we have some good spots

Linebackers
Brian Urlacher
Lance Briggs
Nick Barnett
AJ Hawk
Ernie Sims
Chad Greenway

Ok there might be better but some of the best young Linebackers

DT
Kevin Williams
Pat Williams
Tommie Harris
Shaun Rodgers
Ryan Pickett
Corey Williams

Vi-queens have 1 of the best pairs in the NFL, Bears/Lions have a very good one and the Packers arent the best in the NFL but there good.

CB
Al Harris
Charles Woodson
Antoine Winfield
Charles Tillman
Nathan Vasher

maybe not the best out of other divisions but again pretty good

QB, RB, FB are probably pretty weak but we have some ok people

WR- Donald Driver, Roy Williams, Moose and alot of young guys like Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings, Bernard Berrian

TE- not much

Oline- would be pretty good but im to lazy to do
DE- there are some good guys but not to much same with Saftey

anyways we are pretty weak but we have some LB, and DT!

Flyboy
08-24-2007, 01:52 PM
How is Kris Jenkins not the starting DT, let alone not on the all-South defense?

Injury prone and a shell of his former self.

Shiver
08-24-2007, 02:00 PM
Injury prone, maybe, but I definitely don't agree with the "shell of his former self" comment. He was still very good last year.

TimD
08-24-2007, 02:03 PM
the AFC east's defense is just scary... and their offense is solid with t brady to lee evans... also a beast offensive line...

and the best coaching staff

BrownsTown
08-24-2007, 02:22 PM
My rankings:
1. AFC West
2. AFC North
3. NFC East
4. NFC West
5. NFC South
6. AFC East
7. AFC South
8. NFC North

Here comes the complaints

bored of education
08-24-2007, 02:27 PM
Umm I don't think they are the best

that is AFC West a projected staff

Shanahan- HC
Norv Turner- OC
Lane Kiffin/Heimendinger- QB Coach
James Lofton - WR Coach
Defensive Coordinator- Gunther Gunningham/Ted Cotrell
D-Line coach- Tim Krumrie
Inside Linebackers- Ron Rivera
Linebackers- Jim bates
Secondary- Herm Edwards/Rob Ryan
Special Teams Coahc: Steve Crosby

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Umm I don't think they are the best

that is AFC West a projected staff

Shanahan- HC
Norv Turner- OC
Lane Kiffin/Heimendinger- QB Coach
James Lofton - WR Coach
Defensive Coordinator- Gunther Gunningham/Ted Cotrell
D-Line coach- Tim Krumrie
Inside Linebackers- Ron Rivera
Linebackers- Jim bates
Secondary- Herm Edwards/Rob Ryan
Special Teams Coahc: Steve Crosby

I think if you are going to do coaching staff, you can't take head coaches and make the coordinators or position coaches. I know all of this is hypothetical, but that is just going too far. Just wrong man... Just wrong... =(

bored of education
08-24-2007, 02:40 PM
I think if you are going to do coaching staff, you can't take head coaches and make the coordinators or position coaches. I know all of this is hypothetical, but that is just going too far. Just wrong man... Just wrong... =(



Shanahan- HC
Clarence Shelmon- OC
Heimendinger- QB Coach
James Lofton - WR Coach
Defensive Coordinator- Gunther Gunningham/Ted Cotrell/Jim Bates
D-Line coach- Tim Krumrie
Linebackers- Ron Rivera
Secondary- Bob Slowik
Special Teams Coach: Steve Crosby

yourfavestoner
08-24-2007, 03:14 PM
AFC South

QB: Peyton Manning
RB: Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones-Drew, Joseph Addai
WR: Marvin Harrison
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Reggie Wayne
TE: Dallas Clark
LT: Khalif Barnes
LG: Vince Manuwai
C: Jeff Saturday
RG: Chris Naeole
RT: David Stewart

LE: Kyle Vanden Bosch
UT: Marcus Stroud
NT: John Henderson
RE: Dwight Freeney
OLB: Mike Peterson
MLB: Demeco Ryans
OLB: Keith Bulluck
CB: Rashean Mathis
CB: Dunta Robinson
FS: Bob Sanders
SS: Chris Hope

Talented bunch.

keylime_5
08-24-2007, 04:19 PM
You will find the best TE's as a whole in the NFC East

Witten
Shockey
Cooley
Smith

I'll take Gates/Gonzalez over all the TEs int the NFCEast combined. Miller, Graham, and Scheffler are very good too.

keylime_5
08-24-2007, 04:22 PM
AFC North is the best. Best defense and a very good QB/WR combo.

QB-Palmer
RB-Parker
FB-Johnson
WR-C.Johnson
WR-Ward
TE-Winslow/Heap
OT-Ogden
OG-Faneca
C-Fraley
OG-Steinbach
OT-Anderson

DE-Pryce
DT-Hampton
DE-J.Smith/A.Smith
OLB-Suggs
ILB-Lewis
ILB-Scott
OLB-Wimbley
CB-McAlister
CB-Joseph/Bodden
FS-Reed
SS-Polamalu

No LBs match Lewis/Scott/Suggs/Wimbley. Reed is the best FS, McAlister one of the 3 best CBs, and Polamalu one of the 3 best SS.

yodabear
08-24-2007, 07:07 PM
1. NFC South
2. AFC North
3. AFC West
4. NFC East
5. NFC West, not a homer pick, the AFC East is basically the Patriots and the AFC South is basically the Colts, and well, the NFC South's 4th string offense is prolly better than the NFC's North's first string.
6. AFC East
7. AFC South
8. SEC
9. NFC North

nobodyinparticular
08-24-2007, 07:13 PM
A few things I would change.


Jermaine Phillips over Lawyer Milloy
Thomas Davis over Cato June as a reserve
How is Kris Jenkins not the starting DT, let alone not on the all-South defense?


I'm of the mind that he has really sucked it up the last two years, but I don't think I could put Hovan over him... Looking at all the DTs available I guess I would have to put him next to Rod Coleman.

That said, I really don't like anyone in the middle of that defensive line other than Rod Coleman.

Average OT LB
08-24-2007, 07:18 PM
1. NFC South
2. AFC North
3. AFC West
4. NFC East
5. NFC West, not a homer pick, the AFC East is basically the Patriots and the AFC South is basically the Colts, and well, the NFC South's 4th string offense is prolly better than the NFC's North's first string.
6. AFC East
7. AFC South
8. SEC
9. NFC North


No way an NFC team heads the list

Turtlepower
08-24-2007, 07:20 PM
No way an NFC team heads the list

Except if it is the Eli Manning led NFC East. Then they dominate their competition like... I don't have a good comparison, anyone want to help?

yodabear
08-24-2007, 07:20 PM
No way an NFC team heads the list

I am wearing a jersey of a person who played in the NFC South right now. It is black and red.

Average OT LB
08-24-2007, 07:28 PM
I am wearing a jersey of a person who played in the NFC South right now. It is black and red.

Im wearing a normal shirt, not black and red and not of a person who played in the NFL ... touche?

BrownsTown
08-24-2007, 07:28 PM
I am wearing a jersey of a person who played in the NFC South right now. It is black and red.

Ron Mexico?

But I agree, AFC West and North kicks the pants out of NFC South. And you certainly aren't a homer with NFC West.

Big 10 and WAC should be ahead of NFC North too.

BrownsTown
08-24-2007, 07:30 PM
Except if it is the Eli Manning led NFC East. Then they dominate their competition like... I don't have a good comparison, anyone want to help?

Like my little sister dominates Jamal Williams.