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AlexDown
08-23-2007, 10:03 PM
A source close to the Michael Vick case has told ESPN that the Falcons quarterback will not admit to killing dogs or gambling on dog fights, as detailed in his indictment, when he enters a guilty plea Monday. Instead, the one count of conspiracy that Vick will plead to will admit guilt to the charge of interstate commerce for the purpose of dogfighting

http://story.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2989037

I noticed a lot of Vick threads getting locked recently so if this thread is outside the rules, then disregard it / lock it.

bearfan
08-23-2007, 10:07 PM
I still dont like him.

Does this mean they can try him for those counts in trial?

AlexDown
08-23-2007, 10:09 PM
This has to have some big effects on the plea bargain. A lot of people are not going to be happy about this.

Shiver
08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
This is what I have always personally thought. That is, Vick wasn't directly involved in the operation, but he funded it for his buddies/relatives. If that's the truth, he threw his career away to appease his 'boys' and that's a shame.

kwilk103
08-23-2007, 10:21 PM
lester munson on sportscenter said the feds wont accept this, as the other 3 already said vick killed the dogs/gambled; that this is what vick will admit to, not what the feds are putting in the plea bargin

also said the feds would prob not accept this, and a trial is a real possibility

if this goes to trial, vick is an idiot

elway777
08-24-2007, 01:17 AM
In unrelated news I saw a dead dog get washed up to shore at the beach today.

Cashmoney
08-24-2007, 01:29 AM
In unrelated news I saw a dead dog get washed up to shore at the beach today.

not cool...

Addict
08-24-2007, 01:43 AM
this is stupid! what about all the evidence the DA spoke of?

neko4
08-24-2007, 01:44 AM
This is what I have always personally thought. That is, Vick wasn't directly involved in the operation, but he funded it for his buddies/relatives. If that's the truth, he threw his career away to appease his 'boys' and that's a shame.

thats what ive been thinking too

Addict
08-24-2007, 01:53 AM
This is what I have always personally thought. That is, Vick wasn't directly involved in the operation, but he funded it for his buddies/relatives. If that's the truth, he threw his career away to appease his 'boys' and that's a shame.

a homeboy's gotta do what a homeboy's gotta do... that's the way it goes down y'know?

BlindSite
08-24-2007, 02:35 AM
thats what ive been thinking too

You cannot honestly believe this?

The guy is a dirtbag who the falcons have tried to make look like a golden boy. He fought dogs which means that directly or indirectly he lead to their deaths.

umphrey
08-24-2007, 02:38 AM
Since the beginning of this I kind of had a feeling that Vick would get out of this with a slap on the wrists punishment. I hope this isn't the first step towards that.

BrownsTown
08-24-2007, 03:04 AM
Since the beginning of this I kind of had a feeling that Vick would get out of this with a slap on the wrists punishment. I hope this isn't the first step towards that.

Are they seriously accepting his plea if he doesn't admit he actually did anything? So basically he's just trying to get out of jail time. From a legal standpoint, it'd be stupid if the prosecution accepts this, or already has, considering if this went to trial he'd probably be convicted.

tylerb929
08-24-2007, 06:46 AM
I doubt they accept this plea, and that probably means it goes to court. There are 3 people (along with other evidence) that claim he killed dogs and gambled, but Michael Vick knows if he pleas to either of those he may never play in the NFL again.

neko4
08-24-2007, 09:12 AM
If only Johnny Cochran was here, he would make Vick look like an Animal rights activists with his Chewbaca defense.

BuckNaked
08-24-2007, 10:02 AM
If only Johnny Cochran was here, he would make Vick look like an Animal rights activists with his Chewbaca defense.

Works like a charm

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/83/200px-0330chewbacca.jpg

princefielder28
08-24-2007, 10:06 AM
There's only one man that could've handled this case.....

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~knair/jackie.JPG

"Who told you to put the chesse on???? Did I tell you to the put the chesse on???"

P-L
08-24-2007, 12:35 PM
According to Yahoo! Sports, Vick pleads guilty to conspiracy and helping kill pit bulls. However, he denies gambling.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-michaelvick&prov=ap&type=lgns

LonghornsLegend
08-24-2007, 12:38 PM
i think he might get away with denying having a part in killing, but its hard to believe to say he didnt gamble...he was obviously the richest person in the entire ring, why would anyone think he wouldnt gamble some of his 130 million dollars, im pretty sure he gambled...


and it doesnt help that his dad supposedly is going to testify against him saying he fought dogs in their house in 2001 and was gambling back then...

Shiver
08-24-2007, 12:53 PM
ESPN screwed up, big time. Their report is dead wrong. Vick did admit to the events in April, where he Phillips and Peace killed dogs. He did not, however, admit to gambling on the fights. He never made a profit off of it, according to him.

LINK (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d801c1644&template=without-video&confirm=true)

thefalconer
08-24-2007, 02:17 PM
from a legal standpoint, this is a smart move on his part because gambling might possibly lead to a lifetime ban from the nfl so might as well deny it to see where it takes you.

tom
08-24-2007, 03:20 PM
ESPN was dead wrong, the guy did everything except gamble, and I don't know if I even believe as much. Nonetheless, the dog fighting and killing should put him away from one to three years, which means that the falcons will actually have a chance to replace him with a quarterback who can actually throw.

Stash
08-24-2007, 04:18 PM
I saw a quote from the plea bargain on ESPN today that said something like Bad Newz Kennels (which Vick owns) did gamble with the owner of the opposing kennel, but Vick was not involved in any side betting with spectators and did not receive any of the proceeds from winning.

Here's a link to the statement of facts:
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/070824/vicksummary.pdf
#4 talks about the gambling

21ST
08-25-2007, 10:45 AM
Works like a charm

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/83/200px-0330chewbacca.jpg

"It doesn't make sense."