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bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Hurray for me! I am in the process of negotiating a salary and start date to jump to a large financial services provider in a career move that will offer me a new skill set and a chance to manage people. However, I have a bit of a connundrum. My boss is on vacation for the rest of the week. I could give my letter of resignation to my boss's boss, who is President/CEO of the company, but I feel like that might slight my current supervisor. I'm not looking to piss anyone off here, and I want to do the right thing. Should I wait until next week to resign and potentially give less than 2 weeks notice, or should I give notice to the President and speak with my supervisor next week?

RyanLeaf#1
08-28-2007, 12:18 PM
I would wait until next week, and give less then 2 weeks notice. It isnt your fault your boss is on vacation while all this is going on. On another note though, congrats, and good luck in the future with your new job. Lets go Phillies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Stiller
08-28-2007, 12:18 PM
I would give it to your CEO then speak with your supervisor..

Having parents as business owners, they appreciate actually getting a notice, 2 weeks is great. Explain to your supervisor is wasn't anything against him, he just wasn't there. But I'd have a copy of the letter waiting for him as well

Scar
08-28-2007, 12:22 PM
I'd wait for the simple reason you're still negotiating the new job, even if it is just the salary and start date details, have the official final offer in hand before you quit the current gig. Explain the situation to the new employer, I'm sure they'll understand and quite possibly even take your need to delay your start date as a sign that you're a conscientous and responsible employee.

Eaglez.Fan
08-28-2007, 12:22 PM
I'd give as much notice as possible.

BigDawg819
08-28-2007, 12:25 PM
I'd give it too the CEO and leave a copy in your supervisors mailbox that way you're covered. And remember 2 weeks is a formality not a requirement.

Mr. Stiller
08-28-2007, 12:25 PM
I'd wait for the simple reason you're still negotiating the new job, even if it is just the salary and start date details, have the official final offer in hand before you quit the current gig. Explain the situation to the new employer, I'm sure they'll understand and quite possibly even take your need to delay your start date as a sign that you're a conscientous and responsible employee.

This is exactly what you should do. I assumed you have the other job locked.

Hell your new employer would appreciate the 2 week wait knowing your a good and faithful employee.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 12:28 PM
I'm still negotiating, but they want to have me on board ASAP. Seeing as the money will be a 25-40% pay increase, it's in my best interest financially to make the move sooner. I also have 4 weeks of vacation saved here that I will get compensated for when I leave. Fact remains that I don't have a written offer yet, so I'm getting a bit ahead of myself.

ripdw27
08-28-2007, 12:29 PM
do exactly what scar said. make sure your communicating alot im sure they will be flexible with you

and congrats on the career move

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 12:30 PM
I have the other job locked because they say they want me and have initiated salary/start date discussions. I'm not giving any notice until I have it all in writing.

BigDawg819
08-28-2007, 12:34 PM
I have the other job locked because they say they want me and have initiated salary/start date discussions. I'm not giving any notice until I have it all in writing.

Until you sign the paperwork, no job is a lock. Just be careful and mindful of the situation and you'll be ok. Remember they may have another candidate lined up and just using you as leverage in salary demands.........

RyanLeaf#1
08-28-2007, 12:57 PM
I'm still negotiating, but they want to have me on board ASAP. Seeing as the money will be a 25-40% pay increase, it's in my best interest financially to make the move sooner. I also have 4 weeks of vacation saved here that I will get compensated for when I leave. Fact remains that I don't have a written offer yet, so I'm getting a bit ahead of myself.

Damn 25-40% you'll be livin the good life. Good for you man.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 02:16 PM
I'm switching industries and am adding responsibilities and skills with this move. I'm asking for compensation for additional health insurance costs, the fact that I have to drive, and for the jump. Standard raise to pry someone loose from another company is 20%. I'm not asking for a ridiculous sum, just in the neighborhood of what I should be paid.

BigDawg819
08-28-2007, 02:41 PM
I'm switching industries and am adding responsibilities and skills with this move. I'm asking for compensation for additional health insurance costs, the fact that I have to drive, and for the jump. Standard raise to pry someone loose from another company is 20%. I'm not asking for a ridiculous sum, just in the neighborhood of what I should be paid.

If Laron Landry can be the highest paid safety in the NFL just because he was a high pick in the draft, then you can ask for 40% in a raise.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 02:49 PM
Ha. It's a matter of overselling more than anything else. Whenever a prospective employer asks you what you make, automatically inflate the figure by a reasonable amount (If you make $35k, say you make $40k or so, etc.). Since white collar companies also understand that it usually takes a raise over the baseline to entice new employees to sign on, you create a significant margin right off the bat. In the consulting industry, for instance, the standard is at least 20% above current salary to get a new employee. In other industries, it's less, if anything. If you inflate your salary reasonably, even if you sign on for "no additional money", you're still looking at a raise.

BigDawg819
08-28-2007, 02:53 PM
Ha. It's a matter of overselling more than anything else. Whenever a prospective employer asks you what you make, automatically inflate the figure by a reasonable amount (If you make $35k, say you make $40k or so, etc.). Since white collar companies also understand that it usually takes a raise over the baseline to entice new employees to sign on, you create a significant margin right off the bat. In the consulting industry, for instance, the standard is at least 20% above current salary to get a new employee. In other industries, it's less, if anything. If you inflate your salary reasonably, even if you sign on for "no additional money", you're still looking at a raise.

Sounds like good times, maybe I should have finished college instead of drinking.......

Oh well nothing wrong with working in a factory, that is if I get the job.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 02:56 PM
If you work hard and are honest, there is no shame in doing anything, IMO.

BigDawg819
08-28-2007, 02:59 PM
If you work hard and are honest, there is no shame in doing anything, IMO.

I've made a lot of mistakes and foolish decisions in my life, at this point all I can do is work hard to try and salvage something for myself.

BuckNaked
08-28-2007, 03:08 PM
I've made a lot of mistakes and foolish decisions in my life, at this point all I can do is work hard to try and salvage something for myself.

At least you're not this guy:

http://www.freemyspacegraphics.com/Graphics/Funny_Animations/images/42.gif

Damix
08-28-2007, 03:08 PM
Remember: Taking the fax machine outside and beating it with a baseball bat on your last day is frowned upon.

gbpackers0065
08-28-2007, 03:26 PM
Whatever, you do e-mail and phone calls would be a way too informal way of resigning from a job, doing that leaves a bad taste in your former employer's mouth. I would wait a week myself.

drowe
08-28-2007, 03:31 PM
eh, i wouldn't be the guy to ask about leaving a company on good terms. i say; do what's best for you. they wouldn't give you 2 weeks notice if they fired your ass.

fischbowl
08-28-2007, 03:32 PM
This thread makes me think of Office Space.

http://www.officefinder.com/images/Office_space_Watercooler.jpg

Best of Luck With The New Job Bsaza

gbpackers0065
08-28-2007, 03:37 PM
This thread makes me think of Office Space.

http://www.officefinder.com/images/Office_space_Watercooler.jpg

Best of Luck With The New Job Bsaza

Why, because we're all "working stiffs"?
Desk jobs aren't that bad.

Watchman
08-28-2007, 03:40 PM
I'm still negotiating, but they want to have me on board ASAP. Seeing as the money will be a 25-40% pay increase, it's in my best interest financially to make the move sooner. I also have 4 weeks of vacation saved here that I will get compensated for when I leave. Fact remains that I don't have a written offer yet, so I'm getting a bit ahead of myself.

The new employer should understand that you need to give your existing employer at least 2 weeks notice. I've had some potential employers complain about that, but my response is that if the situations were reversed you would expect at least 2 weeks notice before an employee left.

With my company they don't even accept a 2 week notice from top level employees, if a senior guys gives notice they shake his hand, cut his checks for vacation and the two weeks, and show him the door. Your with us or against us kind of thing.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 04:23 PM
Whatever, you do e-mail and phone calls would be a way too informal way of resigning from a job, doing that leaves a bad taste in your former employer's mouth. I would wait a week myself.

That was never my intent. No matter when I go forward with my resignation, I will be brought in to discuss the matter with the President. I think it is best to probably wait. As of right now, I don't have a formal offer, so it may very well be a non-issue. I can easily wait until Tuesday or later next week.

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 04:29 PM
The new employer should understand that you need to give your existing employer at least 2 weeks notice. I've had some potential employers complain about that, but my response is that if the situations were reversed you would expect at least 2 weeks notice before an employee left.

With my company they don't even accept a 2 week notice from top level employees, if a senior guys gives notice they shake his hand, cut his checks for vacation and the two weeks, and show him the door. Your with us or against us kind of thing.

I don't think the start date (whatever I happen to pick) will be much of an issue. Ideally, I'd like a week off to relax before starting the new job, but that might not really be possible. A lot of this depends on the timing of the formal offer and how long it takes to negotiate bonuses, title, start date, and salary. Your point is a good one.

I don't think my current employer would ask me to leave before my requested notice date. We're currently short-staffed, and I'm staying on to finish several projects that I want to complete before my tenure is over.

DChess
08-28-2007, 04:32 PM
go to where he is on vacation, and give it to him. plus you get to go on vacation

bsaza2358
08-28-2007, 04:55 PM
Ha. Why waste my time off (that I get paid for) and money (which I can always use for other stuff) to spend time with my boss, who I basically don't want to work for anymore?

DChess
08-28-2007, 05:55 PM
Ha. Why waste my time off (that I get paid for) and money (which I can always use for other stuff) to spend time with my boss, who I basically don't want to work for anymore?

its a funny story to tell the grandchildren