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foozball
08-31-2007, 07:35 PM
Anyone think he's comparable to Rex Grossman? Similar size 6'2 225 for Henne, and 6'1 217 for Grossman. Both have strong arms and can throw the deep ball quite well. Neither is considered a mobile QB. Both go through huge bouts of inconsistency. Just throwing it out there.

Xiomera
08-31-2007, 08:25 PM
Anyone think he's comparable to Rex Grossman? Similar size 6'2 225 for Henne, and 6'1 217 for Grossman. Both have strong arms and can throw the deep ball quite well. Neither is considered a mobile QB. Both go through huge bouts of inconsistency. Just throwing it out there.

That comparison makes me cringe, though it has its valid points. I can only hope Henne is more successful as a Pro than Grossman.

Don Vito
08-31-2007, 08:33 PM
Pretty good comparison actually, have never heard it before. I think Henne is slightly better when it comes to arm strength and accuracy but they both have struggled with inconsistency.

foozball
08-31-2007, 09:30 PM
haha i was worried you guys would be like...no way!! henne kicks grossman's ass! but yea the comparison just came to me on a whim. as far as a pure tools standpoint, i think Henne edges Grossman out, though not by much.

P-L
08-31-2007, 09:43 PM
I see why some people knock Henne's consistency, but I don't think his problems are as profound as Grossman's are. Chad Henne has only thrown 8 INT in each of the last two years. In 37 games played, he's only thrown more INT than TD in 5 of those game. He's never had any of those really bad games that Rex Grossman has. I've watched nearly all of Chad Henne's game and never have I thought that a Michigan loss was completely on his shoulders. Henne has some consistency issues (especially in the intermediate passing game) but I wouldn't compare them to Grossman's issues just yet. I can see where the comparison came from, I just think it's a bit of an extreme one at this point.

Shiver
08-31-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm in the minority I guess. I really like Chad Henne as a prospect and think a great senior season will do him wonders.

keylime_5
08-31-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't think Henne has shown me enough as a QB yet. He hasn't really won any big games ever. Beating ND last year doesn't count, they were probably the 20th best team in the country. He hasn't really had any games where you come away from saying "wow, that Henne kid really lit it up today" like the heisman winning/contending QBs do. He's like a better John Navarre in that aspect.

Anyways....low release point and a lot of tipped passes, but should be a first or early 2nd round pick and a starting QB in the NFL.

soybean
08-31-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm in the minority I guess. I really like Chad Henne as a prospect and think a great senior season will do him wonders.

you're not, your buddy todd mcshay likes him too. actually according to him chad henne is the second best qb in the class.

bearfan
08-31-2007, 10:54 PM
Grossman is maybe barely 6 foot...

And you cant compare Grossmans inconsistant year for the Bears to Chad Henne in college. If you are going to compare them as prospects, then do it as prospects, and not bring Grossmans career into it

sodar21
08-31-2007, 11:28 PM
you're not, your buddy todd mcshay likes him too. actually according to him chad henne is the second best qb in the class.

I like him a lot too. I was impressed by how he played even in the games Michigan lost. He showed up against Ohio State and USC and did his part.

Shiver
09-01-2007, 12:51 AM
you're not, your buddy todd mcshay likes him too. actually according to him chad henne is the second best qb in the class.

My buddy? How does one so-called "expert" make my position the majority?

soybean
09-01-2007, 12:58 AM
My buddy? How does one so-called "expert" make my position the majority?

i dunno, i was just looking for an adjective to put in front of todd mcshay.

And i should have said "you're not alone."

Shiver
09-01-2007, 01:05 AM
There is a glut of Quarterbacks this draft. If all things go as planned, and they never do, this could be the best QB class in a long time.

Staubach12
09-01-2007, 11:12 AM
I'm really not a fan of Hene as a prospect. Yes, the inconsistancies in the intermediate passing game are are big problem. But I think that is the door opener to a bigger problem. I see that smetimes he has problems with just strait up accuracy. He can't put the ball through the tire at times, and to be a QB in the NFL, you have to be able to put it through the tire. Now, I haven't seen tons of him, so I could be off a bit, but that's just the problem I see. However, as far as what Shiver just said, he's 100% correct. This could be one hell of a class.

Clayton89
09-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Grossman is maybe barely 6 foot...

And you cant compare Grossmans inconsistant year for the Bears to Chad Henne in college. If you are going to compare them as prospects, then do it as prospects, and not bring Grossmans career into it

at least someone realizes this comparison is for both players as prospects. I think Grossman was a better prospect cause in his years in florida he never had a mike hart or a manningham to make him look good and i really cant see chad henne as a first rounder

Nerv
09-01-2007, 12:06 PM
I've watched nearly all of Chad Henne's game and never have I thought that a Michigan loss was completely on his shoulders.

He has blown a lot of oppurtunities in the 4th quarter. I think he pretty much lost the Notre Dame game a few years ago when he had what, 2 int's and a fumble in the 4th?

I would also say that Grossman is a better athlete with better mobility, but Henne has an overall better arm & accuracy.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
09-01-2007, 02:47 PM
I see why some people knock Henne's consistency, but I don't think his problems are as profound as Grossman's are. Chad Henne has only thrown 8 INT in each of the last two years. In 37 games played, he's only thrown more INT than TD in 5 of those game. He's never had any of those really bad games that Rex Grossman has. I've watched nearly all of Chad Henne's game and never have I thought that a Michigan loss was completely on his shoulders. Henne has some consistency issues (especially in the intermediate passing game) but I wouldn't compare them to Grossman's issues just yet. I can see where the comparison came from, I just think it's a bit of an extreme one at this point.

I'm pretty sure Grossman had college numbers like taht too. Wasn't he one of the most efficient QB's in SEC history?

Clayton89
09-01-2007, 02:55 PM
today's game once again reminds me why chad henne sucks

jballa838
09-01-2007, 03:11 PM
today's game once again reminds me why chad henne sucks
as does the song in this video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n8bzZEtOcb8

Shiver
09-01-2007, 07:03 PM
There is a glut of Quarterbacks this draft. If all things go as planned, and they never do, this could be the best QB class in a long time.

I think having a lousy game and losing to Appalachian State counts as things not going according to plan.

princefielder28
09-01-2007, 08:24 PM
I think having a lousy game and losing to Appalachian State counts as things not going according to plan.

As long as Henne does well in the Big Ten then he's draft stock can only go up.

StaticGator
09-04-2007, 09:53 AM
I'm pretty sure Grossman had college numbers like that too. Wasn't he one of the most efficient QB's in SEC history?

Yes. He put up HUGE numbers in 2001 and should have won the Heisman over Eric Crouch. As others have pointed out it is ridiculous to compare one player's college career to another player's pro career and consider them even.

Addict
09-04-2007, 09:58 AM
as does the song in this video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n8bzZEtOcb8

omg that's so cruel, yet so funny.

Sportsfan486
09-04-2007, 10:28 AM
omg that's so cruel, yet so funny.

It showed all of 2 games and most weren't even his fault.. but...so...funny.......gah...!

Geo
09-04-2007, 10:37 AM
That's a strange comparison to bring up, and for myself, I don't see it at all in Henne and Grossman.

Henne reminds me of Joey Harrington, actually. Very good play-action pass capability, can deliver the ball down the field, but needs a good offensive line and running game for him to be effective.

Addict
09-04-2007, 11:40 AM
That's a strange comparison to bring up, and for myself, I don't see it at all in Henne and Grossman.

Henne reminds me of Joey Harrington, actually. Very good play-action pass capability, can deliver the ball down the field, but needs a good offensive line and running game for him to be effective.

the main thing about Henne, from what I hear, is his inconsistency, which leads me more towards Grossman, Harrington was consistantly bad.

fenikz
09-04-2007, 11:41 AM
Here is a stat comparison from thier college careers

Grossman

+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+
| Year Team | G | CMP ATT PYD TD IN | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD |
+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+
| 2000 Florida | 11 | 131 212 1866 21 7 | 27 -76 | 1 9 |
| 2001 Florida | 11 | 259 395 3896 34 12 | 34 8 5 | |
| 2002 Florida | 13 | 287 503 3402 22 17 | 58 -65 1 | 1 21 |
+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+

Henne

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004 240 399 2743 60.2 6.88 69 25 12 29 132.56
2005 223 382 2526 58.4 6.61 54 23 8 21 129.61
2006 203 328 2508 61.9 7.65 69 22 8 24 143.37


so as many have said, while they share a few similarities Grossman is alot more of a gunslinger and throws more INTs

Addict
09-04-2007, 11:44 AM
Here is a stat comparison from thier college careers

Grossman

+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+
| Year Team | G | CMP ATT PYD TD IN | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD |
+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+
| 2000 Florida | 11 | 131 212 1866 21 7 | 27 -76 | 1 9 |
| 2001 Florida | 11 | 259 395 3896 34 12 | 34 8 5 | |
| 2002 Florida | 13 | 287 503 3402 22 17 | 58 -65 1 | 1 21 |
+-----------------------------+----+--------------------+--------------+-------------+

Henne

YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004 240 399 2743 60.2 6.88 69 25 12 29 132.56
2005 223 382 2526 58.4 6.61 54 23 8 21 129.61
2006 203 328 2508 61.9 7.65 69 22 8 24 143.37


so as many have said, while they share a few similarities Grossman is alot more of a gunslinger and throws more INTs

with those stats I'm surprised Grossman was a first rounder.

Iamcanadian
09-04-2007, 12:09 PM
Grossman has started 1 season with Chicago, really hard to tell just how good he can become. He may surprise a lot of people this season. Just because he sat on the Chicago bench doesn't mean he's all that experienced.
As for Henne, Michigan QB's have traditionally done much better as pros than they did playing for Michigan. No way to tell if Henne will pan out but he is a solid prospect who will get drafted possibly in round 1. A 1st rounders they will have that in common.

StaticGator
09-04-2007, 01:22 PM
with those stats I'm surprised Grossman was a first rounder.

His 2002 season under Ron Zook was a total cluster****.

sweetd20
09-07-2007, 05:01 PM
Henne is a lesser version or poor man's version of what Drew Bledose was when he was younger. He's not as impressive as Bledsoe was coming out of college, but when I watch him I see a not quite as talented Bledsoe knockoff.

Addict
09-07-2007, 05:10 PM
His 2002 season under Ron Zook was a total cluster****.

'01 wasn't that bad though

619
09-07-2007, 05:27 PM
That comparison makes me cringe, though it has its valid points. I can only hope Henne is more successful as a Pro than Grossman.

chad henne wont be a 1st round QB like Grossman was thats for sure

Apriori
09-07-2007, 05:36 PM
chad henne wont be a 1st round QB like Grossman was thats for sure

I don't see why not. Outside of some bad throws last week he's usually been a consistent thrower and I think his size won't be an issue at the combine.
I'm not saying that he'll be a first-rounder but saying that he won't be is pretty short-sighted.

BuffaloDraftGeek
09-08-2007, 05:11 PM
I'm actually a fan of Henne's potential as a pro. The biggest difference in my mind is that Henne seems more like a field general. I remember last year (haven't seen him much this season) he seemed to do a great job of leading his team and what not. He understood how to read a defense and audible at the line, and overall just seemed to have a presence of control on the field.

LionSmack
09-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Henne = John Navarre, more or less

mqtirishfan
09-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Henne = John Navarre, more or less


I've thought since he took over as the starter he was no better than Navarre, and I thought Navarre sucked.

CARDIAC CAT 7
09-09-2007, 12:54 AM
Grossman has the ability to move around and buy his team some extra time, while Henne is statue like and has made very poor decisions in both games. The bad decision making is the only thing I really see in both of them. The injury to Henne was a little fishy too, It looked to me they wanted to see what Mallett could do. Henne is a Day 2 Pick IMO , Almost all the other QB's have some special element they bring. Henne just brings a average all around game, on a very talented team, it doesnt add up.

I_C_DeadPeople
09-10-2007, 04:09 PM
Grossman has the ability to move around and buy his team some extra time, while Henne is statue like and has made very poor decisions in both games. The bad decision making is the only thing I really see in both of them. The injury to Henne was a little fishy too, It looked to me they wanted to see what Mallett could do. Henne is a Day 2 Pick IMO , Almost all the other QB's have some special element they bring. Henne just brings a average all around game, on a very talented team, it doesnt add up.

It is more like - Grossman has the ability to move around before he makes a mistake. Henne justs stands there and makes them, he really has regressed this year.