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Shiver
09-06-2007, 05:39 PM
All Falcons vs Vikings discussions go here.

d34ng3l021
09-07-2007, 12:11 AM
Should I start Norwood or Lamont Jordan (against DET)

iloxygenil
09-07-2007, 12:34 AM
Jordan

I love Norwood, but I don't think he will be involved enough.

Shiver
09-07-2007, 01:44 AM
This game is fascinating to me. Both teams have bad secondaries, statistically from last year anyway, and passing games that are shrouded in mystery. Both teams are known for running the ball and stopping the run. It's strength versus strength, weakness versus weakness.

DraftMichaelHuff
09-07-2007, 01:55 AM
....we clearly have the advantage in the fashion stakes however, the vikings now have the worst jersey i have ever seen. This opposed to the falcons black on black which, IMO is the best jersey in the NFL, obiviously that wont be worn sunday but even our white on white is worlds better that Minnesota's. Pat Williams looks like Grimace from McDonalds in the home strip.

But yeh im pumped for the game, sorry i just played the Vikings on madden and their jerseys annoyed me for the entire game, hence the rant above.

Shiver
09-07-2007, 02:00 AM
The reason I think we will win is Atlanta has a pass rush and Minnesota does not. If Abraham and Anderson can get loose and get to Jackson, advantage us.

DraftMichaelHuff
09-07-2007, 02:26 AM
Yep there you have it. Atlanta will win...

A. Because of our pass rush
B. Because they dont look like purple jelly beans

thefalconer
09-07-2007, 07:00 AM
this game will show us what our run defense can do after last years weak showing. i have a really bad feeling that all day is gonna run all day on us.

should i start norwood or turner? haha, my rb situation on my ff team sucks.

iloxygenil
09-07-2007, 10:31 AM
Who else do you have for options at RB. I just don't see Norwood getting enough touches week 1, Bobby wants to get Dunn established as much as he's talked about him. Then again, maybe it's smokescreen and Norwood is going to be out there pounding it a lot, but I'd be shocked if Dunn didn't get quite a few more touches than Norwood. I have Jerious on my team as well, but I got him in the 2nd to last round I think, and he's my 4th RB.

This game is going to depend on Montavious Stanley and Grady Jackson taking up defenders. We have 2 guys who take up a LOT of space now, and we can spell Jackson like we need to and he'll be effective. There is NO question about Abe and Jamaal's ability to stop the run and hold up the point, not one about Grady's either, but I'm interested to see if we stick both Stanley and Grady in there on known running situations and basically send a 2 man pass rush with Jamaal and Abe...but I'm certain our LBs know how to fly to the ball so if our DTs can keep Offensive Linemen off of them then we're going to win this game. Our LBs are playmakers, every last one of them, but none of them fight off blocks exceptionally well. When they're left alone to go after the ball is when they are going to be scary, so once we prove we can plug the middle, look out, it's going to be a LONG day trying to run outside on this team.

Shiver
09-07-2007, 01:14 PM
Atlanta was 6th in the NFL last year in allowing only 3.6 YPC against its defense.

BamaFalcon59
09-08-2007, 11:02 AM
I am pissed. I have ******* football practice every Sunday at 1:00.


Any site I can see the replay?

Draft King
09-09-2007, 09:59 AM
I'm also missing it for a big football game, but will get back around 5:30 and just watch it recorded. No commercial breaks for me :D.

ATLDirtyBirds
09-09-2007, 02:55 PM
Why did Dunn get so many carries? It was pretty obvious he wasn't doing anything, so why not let Norwood loose?

d34ng3l021
09-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Dear god. This is going to be one LONG season.

Hope you guys dont mind, but I'm gonna go cheer the Texans as wlel.

ATLDirtyBirds
09-09-2007, 03:09 PM
Dear god. This is going to be one LONG season.

Hope you guys dont mind, but I'm gonna go cheer the Texans as wlel.



Mario is so beastly.

falconsrule
09-09-2007, 04:39 PM
I was really pumped for the game today but I was brought back to earth by our team poor play.I think we seen today that Joey Harringtion is not the answer at QB...Im not saying todays lost is his fault but he held on to the ball way to long.Why was Petrino so consistant on running the ball up the middle?....I really like our offense but Joey is not the answer...

robert_in_bigd
09-09-2007, 04:55 PM
The Dallas Cowboys are taking offers for the #1 pick which you can use on Brohm.

robert_in_bigd
09-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Mario is so beastly.

Played a horrid line.

BamaFalcon59
09-09-2007, 07:31 PM
We have so many weaknesses in next years draft...

LT
C
QB
RB
WR
SS
DE
NT
MLB

Our top pick should be interesting. DeSean Jackson, Brian Brohm, Darren McFadden, Jake Long, Kenny Phillips. Dorsey is good but we need a NT. Even though I have my doubts at DE and DE depth, I doubt we go there early. No standout MLBs either. PR/ KR/ WR would all be bolstered with DeSean Jackson. McFadden would be good, considering the coaches have very little faith in Norwood (5 carries???). Brohm is a good pick, but I would be fine with someone like Henne in early round 2.

iloxygenil
09-10-2007, 12:33 AM
If Henne becomes a Falcon I will never EVER watch the Falcons again.

In the draft we don't have as many 'needs' as you listed. But our 'needs' are...

LT, NT

You listed QB..that's a joke...Joey was not bad...at all. Joey looked fine back there actually, our WRs screwed him and 1 fluke batted pass.

C is fine, we have our C on the IR right now. RB, we need a power back but we have our feature back. WR, sure, but Robinson is legit, and I don't know about WRs in this year's draft at least not super high caliber ones. SS...uh...have you completely forgotten about Stone? DE...give me a break...maybe a backup DE late, but Anderson and Abe are $$$ Davis is a very good backup. MLB...maybe...but there aren't any of those.

Shiver
09-10-2007, 01:06 AM
If Henne becomes a Falcon I will never EVER watch the Falcons again.

In the draft we don't have as many 'needs' as you listed. But our 'needs' are...

LT, NT

You listed QB..that's a joke...Joey was not bad...at all. Joey looked fine back there actually, our WRs screwed him and 1 fluke batted pass.

You're kidding yourself if you think QB isn't a need. Both LT and QB have to be addressed. Harrington is lousy, Gandy is lousy.

C is fine, we have our C on the IR right now.

McClure is fine and he's not even that old.

RB, we need a power back but we have our feature back.

A bigger back is a need, but not a pressing one. Adding one in free agency or in the late day-1 would be fine.

WR, sure, but Robinson is legit, and I don't know about WRs in this year's draft at least not super high caliber ones.

The last thing I want is another WR via the draft.

SS...uh...have you completely forgotten about Stone?

So we are putting all of our hope in a 6th round player? He's been impressive, to be sure, but I cannot say that I disagree with SS being a need.

DE...give me a break...maybe a backup DE late, but Anderson and Abe are $$$ Davis is a very good backup.

You could always use some more depth. It isn't a need though.

MLB...maybe...but there aren't any of those.

It depends if Rey Maualuga declares.

falconsrule
09-10-2007, 03:46 AM
Are you serious iloxygenil?..So QB is not a problem....Did you watch todays game? People keep bringing up the fact the Harrington threw for a high completion rating but Petrino offense is QB friendly and every single completion Harrington had was on short routes.In translantion Harrington cant throw the deep ball and he hold on to the ball way to long. We need a new QB.

iloxygenil
09-10-2007, 09:55 AM
Uh...yeah...I saw the game, I saw the couple bad passes, I saw the couple fluke passes, but do you really think we're going to get a QB in here that is going to always make the perfect pass? As fans we need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that it doesn't take a perfect QB to win, it just takes one who can manage the game and make some things happen, our WRs early on weren't able to get open, and they were playing Cover 2, which means the over the top plays should be covered up if they were playing it well, and with Sharper back there they were. Joey did a fine job yesterday, not a great one, and our defense gave us a chance to win, but feeding the rock to Warrick 22 times and Jerious only 5 killed us. Jerious was about 1 foot short of breaking a TD run...only barely missed that stiff arm and he was gone. So we need people to help Joey, we're just used to having a playmaker QB, now we have what everyone's been screaming for, a pocket QB who manages the game, and everyone's upset.

falconsrule
09-10-2007, 01:53 PM
Joey Harrington is a good clock manager.Meaning that he will eat up the clock with 8 and 10 yard passes all game.But the thing that worried me from the game yesterday is that the guy simple cant stay compose when he see a blitz coming and this is why Detroit and Miami both sent him packing.Sorry I never wanted a pocket QB, I really dont give a crap if you give me garry coleman aslong as he dont cause the team any stupid turnovers and get the ball to our receivers

DraftMichaelHuff
09-10-2007, 07:04 PM
For me LT is a way way bigger proirity than QB at the moment. That said QB is the 2nd biggest need

Here, Ill try to scale our needs
LT.............................QB......NT..RB..SS. .MLB

I want a big athletic future all pro in there at LT (punches self in face and thinks about Jared Gaither) DO WE REALISE HE WOULD ALREADY BE STARTING!!

Id settle for Jake Long in the first and then Eric Ainge or Matt Moore or Sam Keller in round 2 at the moment

thefalconer
09-10-2007, 08:06 PM
jake long then colt brennan!

smittyjs
09-10-2007, 08:27 PM
Hey i have a ? for ya'll who is the dirty birds back up QB with shockley done, sorry for being late and go Falcons:)

Also who is the starting LT since that was a huge weakness by all accounts??

Shiver
09-10-2007, 08:33 PM
Chris Redman and Wayne Gandy, respectively.

smittyjs
09-10-2007, 08:36 PM
Chris Redman and Wayne Gandy, respectively.
I'm stupid, i forgot about Redman, do you think he could get some snaps at starter, from the game i saw in preseason he didn't look that bad.

thefalconer
09-10-2007, 08:58 PM
i doubt redman plays unless harrington gets hurt this year. i dont wanna even imagine redman leading our offense.

BamaFalcon59
09-12-2007, 10:07 PM
If Henne becomes a Falcon I will never EVER watch the Falcons again.

In the draft we don't have as many 'needs' as you listed. But our 'needs' are...

LT, NT

You listed QB..that's a joke...Joey was not bad...at all. Joey looked fine back there actually, our WRs screwed him and 1 fluke batted pass.

C is fine, we have our C on the IR right now. RB, we need a power back but we have our feature back. WR, sure, but Robinson is legit, and I don't know about WRs in this year's draft at least not super high caliber ones. SS...uh...have you completely forgotten about Stone? DE...give me a break...maybe a backup DE late, but Anderson and Abe are $$$ Davis is a very good backup. MLB...maybe...but there aren't any of those.

QB IS a need. I don't care how Joey played in one game and it wasn't even that impressive.

C is OK, but I could see depth being brought in.

I would like to think Norwood is our feature back but 5 carries? How much faith can you have in a guy giving him 5 carries while your starter is getting stuffed?

I like Robinson, but no one else sounds too good. Roddy has looked decent but that TD drop in preseason I won't forget. Jenkins hasn't looked good and Horn is old. I wouldn't mind DeSean Jackson as a 3rd or 4th draft option.

Uh...I'm not placing faith in a 6th round pick from Maine despite potential.

Abraham will continue to be injury prone until proven otherwise and I don't see anyone on the roster who I trust as a starter. Plus, he is injury prone and 29 as a speed rusher. Not a first round need, but 3rd/4th round isn't out of the question.

MLB is fine in this years draft. Jonathan Goff, Vince Hall, Jasper Brinkley, etc etc.

iloxygenil
09-13-2007, 12:11 AM
QB IS a need. I don't care how Joey played in one game and it wasn't even that impressive.

C is OK, but I could see depth being brought in.

I would like to think Norwood is our feature back but 5 carries? How much faith can you have in a guy giving him 5 carries while your starter is getting stuffed?

I like Robinson, but no one else sounds too good. Roddy has looked decent but that TD drop in preseason I won't forget. Jenkins hasn't looked good and Horn is old. I wouldn't mind DeSean Jackson as a 3rd or 4th draft option.

Uh...I'm not placing faith in a 6th round pick from Maine despite potential.

Abraham will continue to be injury prone until proven otherwise and I don't see anyone on the roster who I trust as a starter. Plus, he is injury prone and 29 as a speed rusher. Not a first round need, but 3rd/4th round isn't out of the question.

MLB is fine in this years draft. Jonathan Goff, Vince Hall, Jasper Brinkley, etc etc.
I'm not talking about MEDIOCRE talent here, I'm talking about ELITES. Vince could be VERY good, but I don't see him being in the pro bowl every year. I want someone with that kind of potential.

You're insanely negative...who knows maybe you're right maybe a 29 yr old man is past his prime...oh wait...he hasn't hit his prime yet...

As far as Norwood goes...I've explained this MANY times...he only got 5 carries because they were worried about him in pass protection. They want him to be solid on that, they know that Dunn is above average, so they want to protect Joey on the blitz pickup (WHICH we knew they were going to do a LOT of) Norwood didn't get enough touches because of that...but I'll take his rushing attempts over that of Dunn's anyday, but you can't just plug a guy in and run him every time, because if you did that they would know when the run was coming...BP was trying to keep em guessing, but we couldn't execute enough and the bounces didn't go our way.

What were Joey's stats for that HALF of football? Do you even know? 164 passing yards...2 touchdowns...62% completion percentage. You know how many drops we had that game? You know that Roddy dropped a big TD pass? So you're telling me that 4TD passes 328yards passing and 62% completion isn't that impressive? HA, give me a break. It's not impressive for Manning to do, but for a Falcon QB, HECK ya it is. For any QB that's an above average day, that's a very good day. If Roddy could have held onto that TD it would have made his stats closer to 185 or so yards passing with 3 TDs in the first half...which lets see...yeah...370 passing yards...6TDs...and 64% completion...yeah, that's not impressive...at ALL...gag at the thought of that. Foolishness. I'd LOVE to see 328passing yards and 4 TDs with 0 INT from a QB...

Why don't you just go 'cheer' for another team...if that's what you think you're doing...

Shiver
09-13-2007, 02:22 AM
Everyone needs to take a chill pill.

thefalconer
09-13-2007, 06:52 AM
who cares? harrington DIDN'T get 3 tds. he didn get any! i dont wanna blame this all on harringon cause our team as a whole played bad. i agree with oxy about norwood and really hope he's practicing and improving on his blitz pickup so he can see more action, he's the only bright spot i see on our team.

BamaFalcon59
09-15-2007, 12:25 AM
I'm not talking about MEDIOCRE talent here, I'm talking about ELITES. Vince could be VERY good, but I don't see him being in the pro bowl every year. I want someone with that kind of potential.

You're insanely negative...who knows maybe you're right maybe a 29 yr old man is past his prime...oh wait...he hasn't hit his prime yet...

As far as Norwood goes...I've explained this MANY times...he only got 5 carries because they were worried about him in pass protection. They want him to be solid on that, they know that Dunn is above average, so they want to protect Joey on the blitz pickup (WHICH we knew they were going to do a LOT of) Norwood didn't get enough touches because of that...but I'll take his rushing attempts over that of Dunn's anyday, but you can't just plug a guy in and run him every time, because if you did that they would know when the run was coming...BP was trying to keep em guessing, but we couldn't execute enough and the bounces didn't go our way.

What were Joey's stats for that HALF of football? Do you even know? 164 passing yards...2 touchdowns...62% completion percentage. You know how many drops we had that game? You know that Roddy dropped a big TD pass? So you're telling me that 4TD passes 328yards passing and 62% completion isn't that impressive? HA, give me a break. It's not impressive for Manning to do, but for a Falcon QB, HECK ya it is. For any QB that's an above average day, that's a very good day. If Roddy could have held onto that TD it would have made his stats closer to 185 or so yards passing with 3 TDs in the first half...which lets see...yeah...370 passing yards...6TDs...and 64% completion...yeah, that's not impressive...at ALL...gag at the thought of that. Foolishness. I'd LOVE to see 328passing yards and 4 TDs with 0 INT from a QB...

Why don't you just go 'cheer' for another team...if that's what you think you're doing...

If. If. If. Sounds just like when Michael Vick was QB. If this would have happened then he would have been blah blah blah. I'm done with 'if's. Who cares if he could have been. He wasn't. And it was preseason, which is oviously 90% vanilla coverages.

BamaFalcon59
09-15-2007, 12:27 AM
I'm not talking about MEDIOCRE talent here, I'm talking about ELITES. Vince could be VERY good, but I don't see him being in the pro bowl every year. I want someone with that kind of potential.

You're insanely negative...who knows maybe you're right maybe a 29 yr old man is past his prime...oh wait...he hasn't hit his prime yet...


Why don't you just go 'cheer' for another team...if that's what you think you're doing...

Generally defensive ends hit their prime in the 26-28 area. Abraham is injury prone, we knew that when we aquired him.

You can't have elite at every position. I'll take very good in the second round.