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RaiderNation
09-09-2007, 03:28 PM
stopped them 1st drive, then got a 1st, now there driving all over us

bernbabybern820
09-09-2007, 03:58 PM
Different offense, same results.

locseti
09-09-2007, 04:03 PM
what a surprise, Schwigey gets burnt for a TD again. Where's Donivin Darius when you need him

locseti
09-09-2007, 04:04 PM
McCown has a noodle arm, bring in Culpepper!

RaiderNation
09-09-2007, 04:13 PM
another missed FG

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 06:17 PM
Team Needs after week one.
K
C
DE
DB depth
better coaching.
putting Daunte in.
something something.

raidersfanxxx
09-09-2007, 07:15 PM
Team Needs after week one.
K
C
DE
DB depth
better coaching.
putting Daunte in.
something something.


wow, i know we were bad, but not thaaaat bad. i think we will put daunte in week 5 after are bye week. he just needs more time to learn the playbook.

RaiderNation
09-09-2007, 07:46 PM
what ive heard the only was we can sign russell is cutting c-pep. we really need a new K too. we would have won probably if we had a good one

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 08:02 PM
they should just sign a soccer player from Mexico and cut Seabass.

Komp
09-09-2007, 09:08 PM
Those missed kicks were not even close to making it, complete shanks. Even his converts were near misses. If he kicks like this again we need to cut him.

I don't think we played that bad of a game. I am a little surprised that we didn't blitz more in the 2nd half. We weren't getting any pressure on Kitna and if you give Williams, CJ and Furrey that much time they are going to get open. I know Ryan likes pressure with his front four, but it wasn't happening today and it is why we lost the game.

I didn't like some of the offensive playcalling in the first half, but Kiff redeemed himself in the 2nd half. We pretty much had our way with their D in the 2nd half until the last 4 mins of the game.

All in all, we didn't deserve the win. We can't only play half a game and expect to win. I liked what I saw from our OL and especially from Lamont Jordan. I think we match up better with Denver than Detroit so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully the offense continues to improve and the defense shows up.

locseti
09-09-2007, 10:03 PM
Sebass is terrible, why dont we ever bring in a kicker to compete with him? He's so inaccurate, its laughable that he's been on the team this long. I was also left wondering why we didn't blitz more and change up our looks, Kitna had all day to sit back there and throw it to the reveiver nearest Shwigey. We needed to put some pressure on him, Kerry Collins coulda picked us apart with that much time.

Green Bay Scat
09-09-2007, 10:05 PM
is Seabass worth that 1st round pick? Crosby has just as good of a leg and was a 5th rounder.

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 10:07 PM
Our biggest problem on defense is that Ryan insists on using zone defenses we proved last year we suck at zone were good at man to man.This isnt hard logic.

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 10:08 PM
is Seabass worth that 1st round pick? Crosby has just as good of a leg and was a 5th rounder.
rub it in why dont you.although Seabass was 0-3 he did manage to kick the ball out of bounce on kickoffs and did knock a guy out of bounce.Regardless of that cut his ass.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-09-2007, 10:09 PM
Our biggest problem on defense is that Ryan insists on using zone defenses we proved last year we suck at zone were good at man to man.This isnt hard logic.
I would agree with locseti, the main reason we lost was because we generated almost no pressure. Don't matter if you're playing zone or man to man, if a QB has all day to look down the field, you are going to give up big passing plays.

bernbabybern820
09-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Porter was also semi-invisible.

raiderfan_89
09-09-2007, 10:48 PM
We lost because of our defense & because of our lineman for a kicker Janikowski.

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 10:51 PM
I would agree with locseti, the main reason we lost was because we generated almost no pressure. Don't matter if you're playing zone or man to man, if a QB has all day to look down the field, you are going to give up big passing plays.
yeah I agree with that Clemons did have a couple of good plays though. Nice to see we'll have some pressure coming from the right side.Still we have the ability to play man and play it well.Theres no reason not to.

Windy
09-09-2007, 10:55 PM
tough game. martz is a genius and we had nothing for those 4 wide sets.

ive been to broncos, chargers games at home but i have never seen a classless player like roy williams at the beginning of the game.

Windy
09-09-2007, 10:59 PM
also very pleased with the o-line.

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-09-2007, 11:00 PM
Ive forgotten what'd he do?i was pissed at what Bell was doing.

GB12
09-09-2007, 11:02 PM
is Seabass worth that 1st round pick? Crosby has just as good of a leg and was a 5th rounder.
6th rounder actually. If they really need some competition I think Dave Rayner is still available.

Windy
09-09-2007, 11:03 PM
Ive forgotten what'd he do?i was pissed at what Bell was doing.


went out of his way during warmups to go to the sidelines and flip fans off and trash talk. very odd.

Stash
09-10-2007, 12:03 AM
I was very impressed with the offense in the 2nd half, but we still need to work on not turning the ball over. I know Detroit's secondary is pretty bad, but McCown throwing for 300+ is pretty darn good.

I pretty much agree with everyone that the D was giving up so much passing offense because they couldn't pressure Kitna. Ryan needed to make an adjustment when rushing the front 4 obviously wasn't working. I guess the good news here is that most other teams in the NFL don't have a WR core as freakishly good as Detroit's.

Even though we didn't get the W, I'm still happy with our performance (except Janikowski, he blows).

Windy
09-10-2007, 04:22 PM
I was very impressed with the offense in the 2nd half, but we still need to work on not turning the ball over. I know Detroit's secondary is pretty bad, but McCown throwing for 300+ is pretty darn good.

I pretty much agree with everyone that the D was giving up so much passing offense because they couldn't pressure Kitna. Ryan needed to make an adjustment when rushing the front 4 obviously wasn't working. I guess the good news here is that most other teams in the NFL don't have a WR core as freakishly good as Detroit's.

Even though we didn't get the W, I'm still happy with our performance (except Janikowski, he blows).

yea its been forever since a raider qb went over 300 yards. martz simply owned ryan.

portermvp84
09-10-2007, 05:24 PM
I caught the very last part of the game when McCown fumbled it two times in a row.

Windy
09-10-2007, 06:43 PM
if sebastian had made just 2/3 it would of been 27-20 and the offense would of been conservative with jordan/fargas. totally different ballgame. even during halftime warmups, sebastian was missing lol.

Windy
09-10-2007, 06:48 PM
also even though the lions are a tough team to lose to, the raiders are easily better than last year.