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Bearsfan123
09-14-2007, 10:30 AM
Ive started watching players (albeit on youtube) and I've come up with a few player comparisons. Please feel free to add your own and comment on mine.

Ian Johnson-Edgerrin James (but slower)
Ray Rice-Thomas Jones
Brandon Ore-Duece

bored of education
09-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Steve Slaton- Warrick Dunn/Young Fred Taylor?

Bearsfan123
09-14-2007, 12:52 PM
Steve Slaton- Warrick Dunn/Young Fred Taylor?


I was thinking rich man's Tatum Bell, but I dont remember Young Fred Taylor.

keylime_5
09-14-2007, 02:01 PM
Desean Jackson-Ted Ginn Jr.
Darren McFadden-Taller LaDanian Tomlinson
Steve Slaton-Warrick Dunn (only bigger and not as good at inside runs)
Glenn Dorsey-Warren Sapp
Malcolm Kelly-Roy Williams
Kenny Phillips-smaller Sean Taylor

Freddy G
09-14-2007, 02:20 PM
Felix Jones-Clinton Portis
Chris Long-Marcus Spears with more fire and motor
Antoine Cason-Samari Rolle
Steve Slaton-LT
Sam Baker-Jordan Gross
Lawrence Jackson-Mike Rucker
Quentin Groves-Kamerion Wimbley
Chris Ellis-Shaun Phillips
Red Bryant-Shaun Rogers
Brian Brohm-Matt Hassellback
Harry Douglas-Lee Evans

Don Vito
09-14-2007, 02:24 PM
Mike Oher-Jason Peters
DeJuan Tribble-Asante Samuel
Matt Ryan-Chris Simms
Andre Woodson-Donovan McNabb (McNabbs a little more mobile)
BenJarvus Green Ellis-Sean Alexander
Martin Rucker-Dallas Clark
Mario Manningham-Marvin Harrison
Shannon Tavega-Kendall Simmmons
Derrick Harvey-Terrell Suggs
Rey Maualuga-Brian Urlacher
Keith Rivers-Derrick Brooks
Brian Cushing-Mike Vrabel
Dan Connor-Karlos Dansby
Malcolm Jenkins-Nate Clements
Terrell Thomas-Bobby Taylor
Jonathan Hefney-Troy Polamalu
Tom Zbikowski-Chris Hope

Shiver
09-14-2007, 02:44 PM
You guys realize that there will be 7,000 more of these threads between now and the draft, right?

scottyboy
09-14-2007, 03:09 PM
i've thought about it and thought about it, and cant really come up with a comparison for Courtney Greene. who do you guys think?

619
09-14-2007, 04:23 PM
darren mcfadden - LT
brian brohm - tom brady
glenn dorsey - warren sapp/la'roi glover
kenny philips - sean taylor
chris long - aaron kampman
desean jackson - steve smith
chad henne - rex grossman
steve slaton - warrick dunn
tommy blake - terrell suggs
keith rivers - lance briggs
early doucet - antwaan randel el
antoine cason - nathan vasher

Don Vito
09-14-2007, 04:42 PM
i've thought about it and thought about it, and cant really come up with a comparison for Courtney Greene. who do you guys think?

He's like Dawan Landry

etk
09-14-2007, 08:21 PM
You guys realize that there will be 7,000 more of these threads between now and the draft, right?

I'm holding out until draft time to make an official one with several players at every position. A lot of the comparisons here are awful. Insight and effort people...

Shiver
09-14-2007, 08:29 PM
I'm holding out until draft time to make an official one with several players at every position. A lot of the comparisons here are awful, insight and effort people...

That's what I was thinking.

draftguru151
09-14-2007, 08:46 PM
Brian Brohm- Tim Couch.

Travis 24
09-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Ray Rice reminds me, atleast running style, to Tiki Barber...


i've thought about it and thought about it, and cant really come up with a comparison for Courtney Greene. who do you guys think?


Greene kinda reminds me of Gibril Wilson on the Giants..

OzTitan
09-14-2007, 11:22 PM
How about Lawrence Jackson - Richard Seymour?

Edit: hrm on second thought, I could have sworn Jackson was near 300lb, must be thinking of someone else.

Shiver
09-14-2007, 11:24 PM
How about Lawrence Jackson - Richard Seymour?

You mean if Lawrence Jackson was forty pounds heavier and a defensive tackle, then yeah he is like Seymour...

Green Bay Scat
09-15-2007, 06:47 AM
Earl Bennett = Marty Booker/Peter Warrick(Potential/Talent Wise)

Sniper
09-17-2007, 09:05 PM
Mario Manningham-Donte Stallworth...Need route-running work, hands, but they both have blazing speed and are good deep threats

CARDIAC CAT 7
09-17-2007, 09:09 PM
Andre Woodson- Jason Campbell (with better arm strength)
Glen Dorsey- Warren Sapp
Quinton Demps- Ed Reed (Slower version)

energizerbunny
09-17-2007, 09:20 PM
Eugene Monroe - Walter Jones
Terrence Taylor - Casey Hampton
Mario Manningham - Bernard Berrian

mqtirishfan
09-17-2007, 09:56 PM
Steve Slaton-LT


There must be a third, unknown LT I don't know about.

Sniper
09-17-2007, 10:19 PM
Steve Slaton-LT



If by LT you mean LT with less size, worse vision, less inside running ability, less receiving ability, less blocking ability, more injury prone, less passing ability, then yeah, you'd be about spot on.

Beans
09-17-2007, 10:20 PM
someone do colt brennan

go on

Green Bay Scat
09-17-2007, 10:25 PM
colt brennan - John Beck/Rivers(Mentally)

619
09-17-2007, 10:35 PM
someone do colt brennan

go on

colt brennan - alex smith/tony romo

619
09-17-2007, 10:42 PM
colt brennan - John Beck/Rivers(Mentally)

actually the john beck one is good but rivers im iffy on

KILLERSANTA
09-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams ;)

Green Bay Scat
09-17-2007, 10:47 PM
actually the john beck one is good but rivers im iffy on

i said mentally, hes firey just like Rivers, has a side arm style, and can read defenses well, not great. physical other than that, there totally different

619
09-17-2007, 10:48 PM
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams ;)

i luv limas sweed but i jus cant see it. wit his size he can do wonders in the NFL tho if he goes to the rite team.

HoopsDemon12
09-17-2007, 11:53 PM
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams ;)

Only thing they have in common is the Number height and the fact they went to texas. Williams is three times the athlete and receiver that sweed is.. i just dont see it

critesy
09-18-2007, 12:25 AM
Andre Woodson- Jason Campbell (with better arm strength)
Glen Dorsey- Warren Sapp
Quinton Demps- Ed Reed (Slower version)


have you seen Jason throw the ball..

mqtirishfan
09-19-2007, 05:59 PM
If by LT you mean LT with less size, worse vision, less inside running ability, less receiving ability, less blocking ability, more injury prone, less passing ability, then yeah, you'd be about spot on.

I think he might have actually been talking about Tomlinson's Left Testicle, which has about as much running ability as Slaton.

falconsrule
09-23-2007, 07:23 AM
Brian Brohm-Chad Pennington

Gleen Dorsey-Tommie Harris

neko4
09-23-2007, 07:38 AM
Well every year i look for the QB that reminds me of Favre.
Henne has the almost exact size but lacks the running ability Favre had when he was younger.
Other people ive thought about were Matt Flynn, Josh Johnson and Brandon Cox. Not sure who really compares to him though since ive only seen Flynn and Cox play. THough i only saw one drives-worth of Brandon Cox

darnik44two
09-23-2007, 08:03 AM
Colt Brennan=Kevin Kolb=Timmy Chang=David Klingler=Andre Ware

BufFan71
09-23-2007, 08:53 AM
Kevin Smith (HB- UCF)-- Travis Henry
Terrence Wheatley (Cb- CU)-- Terrence Mcgee

Bostonsportlova
09-23-2007, 05:35 PM
Glenn Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
Matt Ryan - Tom Brady
Dan Connor - Puz
John Carlson - Daniel Graham

bearsfan_51
09-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
Matt Ryan - Tom Brady

???????????

Sniper
09-23-2007, 05:55 PM
Glenn Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
Matt Ryan - Tom Brady
Dan Connor - Puz
John Carlson - Daniel Graham

Besides the Dorsey/Sapp one and Connor/Posluszny, I don't see your other ones at all.

Tampa 2 4 life
09-23-2007, 06:37 PM
Might as well do some USF ones:
Mike Jenkins - Speedier Brian Kelly
Trae Williams - Tanard Jackson
Ben Moffitt - Jeremiah Trotter

etk
09-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Besides the Dorsey/Sapp one and Connor/Posluszny, I don't see your other ones at all.

I actually think Ellis is closer to Sapp than Dorsey is.

Green Bay Scat
09-23-2007, 08:01 PM
Colt Brennan - Tony Romo

Javzz
09-23-2007, 09:20 PM
I don't see the McFadden-LT comparison?

I can't think of anyone to really compare him to recently for that matter. The closest would probably be AD?

Mr. Stiller
09-23-2007, 10:56 PM
I don't see the McFadden-LT comparison?

I can't think of anyone to really compare him to recently for that matter. The closest would probably be AD?

Eric Dickerson?

Bostonsportlova
09-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
ummm i think that Gallery run blocks like Long.

Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
i think that Brohm throws the ball like Peyton. and the way the move in the pocket idn.

Matt Ryan - Tom Brady
Two tough guys who throw the ball well but not nes. far and both dont get a lot of public attention (in college)

John Carlson - Daniel Graham
Both tough. In the same sytem of weis (when graham played for pats). Not wicked fast but fast enough. catch well


I see them all but idn

Man_Of_Steel
09-24-2007, 06:51 PM
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
ummm i think that Gallery run blocks like Long.

Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
i think that Brohm throws the ball like Peyton. and the way the move in the pocket idn.

Matt Ryan - Tom Brady
Two tough guys who throw the ball well but not nes. far and both dont get a lot of public attention (in college)

John Carlson - Daniel Graham
Both tough. In the same sytem of weis (when graham played for pats). Not wicked fast but fast enough. catch well


I see them all but idn

Well at least your confident.

zCaddyz
09-29-2007, 01:31 PM
Xavier Adibi-Cato June

Brandon Flowers- Barber

Paranoidmoonduck
09-29-2007, 01:59 PM
Brian Brohm - Tim Couch
Andre Woodson - Jason Campbell
Colt Brennan - Tony Romo
Chad Henne - Rex Grossman
Matt Ryan - Matt Hasselbeck

Darren McFadden - Eric Dickerson (I think this is much better than all the AD/Dickerson comparisons last year)
Jonathan Stewart - LaMont Jordan
Steve Slaton - Michael Bennett
Ray Rice - Shaun Alexander
James Davis - Thomas Jones

I've only really tried to compare the backfield skill players so far, but this is essentially what I've come up with so far. I'm not too crazy about some of them, and I have no doubt I'll change a lot of them quite soon.

BufFan71
09-29-2007, 02:05 PM
Jasper Brinkley- Ed Hartwell

Limas Sweed- Eric Moulds

Tommy Blake- Adalius Thomas

Johnathen Goff- Angelo Crowell

Terrence Wheatly- Terrence Mcgee

DukeDaGod
10-01-2007, 12:08 AM
Vernon Gholston = Shawne Merriman

bored of education
10-01-2007, 09:09 AM
Matt Ryan is no where near as *** as Brady. Give me Matt Ryan now than Tom Brady his senior year.

Addict
10-01-2007, 09:19 AM
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
ummm i think that Gallery run blocks like Long.

Brian Brohm - Peyton Manning
i think that Brohm throws the ball like Peyton. and the way the move in the pocket idn.

Matt Ryan - Tom Brady
Two tough guys who throw the ball well but not nes. far and both dont get a lot of public attention (in college)

John Carlson - Daniel Graham
Both tough. In the same sytem of weis (when graham played for pats). Not wicked fast but fast enough. catch well


I see them all but idn

Ryan does get lot more attention than Brady did. But Ryan is the 1st rounder, Brady the 6th, so I guess it figures.

Don Vito
10-01-2007, 09:53 AM
Matt Ryan is a much better prospect out of college than Brady was. Out of BC, Ryan has a better arm and is more mobile. Brady proved himself in the NFL but Ryan is a better prospect.

Apriori
10-01-2007, 01:07 PM
I've been thinking of this for a while, and I think that the comparison for Mike Hart would be a smaller (and, at this point, less great) Shaun Alexander. No breakaway speed or sick jukes, but they're both yardage machines.

I don't agree with the Henne-Grossman comparisons...Henne isn't a true gunslinger like Rex was in college. Maybe Alex Smith minus mobility plus pocket presence and a better arm.

ShutDwn
10-01-2007, 02:36 PM
I've been thinking of this for a while, and I think that the comparison for Mike Hart would be a smaller (and, at this point, less great) Shaun Alexander. No breakaway speed or sick jukes, but they're both yardage machines.

I don't agree with the Henne-Grossman comparisons...Henne isn't a true gunslinger like Rex was in college. Maybe Alex Smith minus mobility plus pocket presence and a better arm.

I think Hart will put a move on you, he also has better finishes to runs despite his size.

ironman4579
10-01-2007, 02:43 PM
I've been thinking of this for a while, and I think that the comparison for Mike Hart would be a smaller (and, at this point, less great) Shaun Alexander. No breakaway speed or sick jukes, but they're both yardage machines.

I don't agree with the Henne-Grossman comparisons...Henne isn't a true gunslinger like Rex was in college. Maybe Alex Smith minus mobility plus pocket presence and a better arm.

Maybe a smaller(and, at this point, less great) Curtis Martin?

D-Unit
10-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Colt Brennan = Tony Romo

gun slinger mentality
3 quarter release
excellent pocket awareness and escapability
oozes confidence; slightly brash
questionable size
comes from a small school
a winner
Accurate

Brennan has a quicker release cause Romo uses his shoulder more. Other than that, I like the comparison a lot.

Shiver
10-01-2007, 02:54 PM
Matt Ryan is a much better prospect out of college than Brady was. Out of BC, Ryan has a better arm and is more mobile. Brady proved himself in the NFL but Ryan is a better prospect.

Brady was one of the rare players who drastically improved after college. He put on twenty pounds of muscle and went from being skinny and lacking an arm to having the ideal size and having a great arm with tremendous snap of the ball.

Turtlepower
10-01-2007, 02:55 PM
Colt Brennan = Tony Romo

gun slinger mentality
3 quarter release
excellent pocket awareness and escapability
oozes confidence; slightly brash
questionable size
comes from a small school
a winner
Accurate

Brennan has a quicker release cause Romo uses his shoulder more. Other than that, I like the comparison a lot.

For some reason, that comparison makes me chuckle. =D

Addict
10-01-2007, 02:58 PM
Brady was one of the rare players who drastically improved after college. He put on twenty pounds of muscle and went from being skinny and lacking an arm to having the ideal size and having a great arm with tremendous snap of the ball.

lol going form 6th string QB in Michigan to the Patriots starter, yea that's a huge improvement. But Brady's a unique story.

Ward
10-01-2007, 02:58 PM
Chris Long-Marcus Spears with more fire and motor, but less talent and athletic ability. Will probably make a better pro than Spears.

Fixed it for you.

Addict
10-01-2007, 03:00 PM
André Woodson -> McNabb?

Shiver
10-01-2007, 03:01 PM
lol going form 6th string QB in Michigan to the Patriots starter, yea that's a huge improvement. But Brady's a unique story.

The problem with the draft, the problem that will keep it an art rather than a science is scouts cannot determine how players will respond. Plenty of high draft picks bust because they get lazy and complacent. Whereas players like Brady transform themselves upon entering the NFL.

Addict
10-01-2007, 03:04 PM
The problem with the draft, the problem that will keep it an art rather than a science is scouts cannot determine how players will respond. Plenty of high draft picks bust because they get lazy and complacent. Whereas players like Brady transform themselves upon entering the NFL.

plus the will to win, succeed and work is nearly unmeasurable. They all know what they SHOULD say, but if they actually put out is a different story.

619
10-01-2007, 03:05 PM
André Woodson -> McNabb?

i like that comparison and i can defintely see it

Sniper
10-01-2007, 03:09 PM
i like that comparison and i can defintely see it

Better be careful though. You're going to have to groom Woodson for a couple years to be the starter, or else he's going to have too much pressure on him :rolleyes:

Pittbc7
10-01-2007, 03:34 PM
Colt Brennan = more mobile Kurt Warner...both have freakish accuracy

619
10-01-2007, 03:37 PM
Colt Brennan = more mobile Kurt Warner...both have freakish accuracy

another great comparison :o

D-Unit
10-01-2007, 03:50 PM
Colt Brennan = more mobile Kurt Warner...both have freakish accuracy
I don't like that comparison based of size, release and mobility.

619
10-01-2007, 03:54 PM
mike hart to tiki barber

D-Unit
10-01-2007, 04:18 PM
mike hart to tiki barber
Nah.. Mike Hart = Ahman Green

Tiki was a shrimp and change of pace back entering the league.

bored of education
10-01-2007, 04:21 PM
Matt Ryan=Jim Kelly

D-Unit
10-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Matt Ryan=Jim Kelly
Matt Ryan = Chad Henne in his rookie year.

Hunter S. Thompson
10-01-2007, 04:47 PM
Limas Sweed - Plaxico Burress

DukeDaGod
10-01-2007, 05:31 PM
Vernon Gholston = Shawne Merriman
Mike Hart = Tiki Barber
DeSean Jackson = Santana Moss
Darren McFadden = Adrian Peterson
Jonathan Stewart = Willie Parker

Young Legend
10-01-2007, 06:10 PM
what about Adarius Bowman an Early Doucet

Apriori
10-01-2007, 06:28 PM
I don't agree with the Tiki to Hart comparisons. Hart isn't much of a receiving threat.

mqtirishfan
10-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Vernon Gholston = Shawne Merriman
Mike Hart = Tiki Barber
DeSean Jackson = Santana Moss
Darren McFadden = Adrian Peterson
Jonathan Stewart = Willie Parker

What? You clearly just picked recent NFL running backs out of a hat.

remix 6
10-01-2007, 09:19 PM
did i read that right? Stewart = Parker? WHAT?

Stewart is about 10x the size of Willie.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
10-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Adarius Bowman=Javon Walker
Earl Bennett=Keenan McCardell/Donald Driver
DMAC=Tomlinson+S-Jax
JDB=Matt Hasselbeck
Chad Henne=Grossman
Matt Ryan=Tom Brady(lesser)

DukeDaGod
10-02-2007, 10:33 PM
Parker is 215 Stewart is 230. the size comparison is not dead on, but still fairly close. Compare they're playing styles and that's what makes me think they're alike.

soybean
10-02-2007, 11:53 PM
hey, is this a bad comparison? Mike Hart = MJD. I know MJD is worlds faster than hart, but both small, good work ethic, and battering rams.

i know mjd was probably drafted that high for his punt returning abilities but i have a strong feeling mike hart is gonna go in the 2nd round.

Sniper
10-03-2007, 12:09 AM
Parker is 215 Stewart is 230. the size comparison is not dead on, but still fairly close. Compare they're playing styles and that's what makes me think they're alike.

Yes, but Parker looks nowhere near 215 and certainly doesn't run like a 215 ponder. Stewart is ******* HUGE!

Don Vito
10-03-2007, 01:02 AM
DeJuan Tribble=Antoine Winfield

Apriori
10-03-2007, 11:24 AM
hey, is this a bad comparison? Mike Hart = MJD. I know MJD is worlds faster than hart, but both small, good work ethic, and battering rams.

i know mjd was probably drafted that high for his punt returning abilities but i have a strong feeling mike hart is gonna go in the 2nd round.

I don't think Hart is as elusive as MJD.

Addict
10-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Adarius Bowman=Javon Walker
Earl Bennett=Keenan McCardell/Donald Driver
DMAC=Tomlinson+S-Jax
JDB=Matt Hasselbeck
Chad Henne=Grossman
Matt Ryan=Tom Brady(lesser)

yeah... you =

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no love
10-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Yes, but Parker looks nowhere near 215 and certainly doesn't run like a 215 ponder. Stewart is ******* HUGE!

Stewart also runs nothing like Parker. Parker seems to have an unreal burst, whereas Stewart is much more of a grinder, plus he seems to always try to hurdle or truck people rather than juke them.

Both do seem to have similar vision with the ability to be patient (although Parker seems to have more of a stutter) and slice into tiny holes (which is amazing considering stewarts size).

DSlay4
10-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Mike Hart = Curtis Martin
Matt Ryan = Chad Pennington
Darren Mcfadden = Clinton Portis(with the Broncos)

I also dont see Sean Taylor in Kenny Phillips. Taylor has that killer instinct that i just dont see in Phillips

keylime_5
10-03-2007, 04:49 PM
James Laurinaitis IS AJ Hawk in a middle linebacker's body.

HawkeyeFan
10-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Charles Godfrey = CJ Gaddis?

tylerb929
10-04-2007, 02:28 PM
Matt Ryan = Chad Pennington
Chad Pennington probably can't throw the ball half as far as Matt Ryan.

Don Vito
10-04-2007, 03:10 PM
Matt Ryan = more athletic Matt Schaub if anything. Chad Pennington is not similar to Matt Ryan, Ryan's arm is much better and he is more athletic.

DrEvil63
10-07-2007, 07:23 PM
Travis Beckum=Antonio Gates
Keith Rivers=Ernie Sims

MIZZOU
10-07-2007, 07:51 PM
How about Lawrence Jackson - Richard Seymour?

Edit: hrm on second thought, I could have sworn Jackson was near 300lb, must be thinking of someone else.

Tyson Jackson, maybe? I can see that.

619
10-08-2007, 07:40 AM
dennis dixon = kordell stewart

DoWnThEfiElD
10-08-2007, 11:53 AM
DeJuan Tribble=Antoine Winfield

Really?? I don't really know much about Tribble at all, but that is an interesting comparison. Does Tribble tackle as well as Winfield, because im pretty sure Winfield is the best tackling CB I have ever watched.

TACKLE
10-08-2007, 12:26 PM
Keith Rivers = Lance Briggs
Jake Long = Jon Runyan
Malcom Kelly = Michael Jenkins
Mario Manningham = Chris Chambers
Tyson Jackson = Charles Grant

Sniper
10-08-2007, 12:45 PM
Keith Rivers = Lance Briggs
Jake Long = Jon Runyan
Malcom Kelly = Michael Jenkins
Mario Manningham = Chris Chambers
Tyson Jackson = Charles Grant

There's a good comparison for Long, in my opinion.

HoopsDemon12
10-08-2007, 12:46 PM
Keith Rivers = Lance Briggs
Jake Long = Jon Runyan
Malcom Kelly = Michael Jenkins
Mario Manningham = Chris Chambers
Tyson Jackson = Charles Grant

I dont see the chambers oor the jenkins comparisions at all. Manningham is such a different player compared to Chambers.. way smaller.. and sadly probabaly less NFL ready

Sniper
10-08-2007, 12:51 PM
I dont see the chambers oor the jenkins comparisions at all. Manningham is such a different player compared to Chambers.. way smaller.. and sadly probabaly less NFL ready

I agree Rio is definitely not ready for the Show. He's awful on short and intermediate routes, has bricks for hands except on the deep ball, isn't a polished blocker and needs to stop hitting the reefer. But man, is he fun to watch on the deep ball. The more and more I watch Adrian Arrington, the more and more convinced I become he's a better pro prospect than MM. Arrington is the polar opposite of Manningham, besides the off-field issues. Great hands, willing blocker, great possession type guy. I don't know who I'd compare him too though. Maybe Hines Ward?

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 01:11 PM
I agree Rio is definitely not ready for the Show. He's awful on short and intermediate routes, has bricks for hands except on the deep ball, isn't a polished blocker and needs to stop hitting the reefer. But man, is he fun to watch on the deep ball. The more and more I watch Adrian Arrington, the more and more convinced I become he's a better pro prospect than MM. Arrington is the polar opposite of Manningham, besides the off-field issues. Great hands, willing blocker, great possession type guy. I don't know who I'd compare him too though. Maybe Hines Ward?

I said that same thing last year. I truly believe AA is or will be a better overall pro prospect than MM. But I know we talked about this before, and I am starting to agree with what you said then Sniper. It may depend on what a certain team is looking for. A great deep threat that doesn't do much else, but has that big play ability, or an all around receiver. Personally, I think MM's speed is actually a little overrated, and AA's is a little underrated. So really, AA may end up being the superior NFL player in the end, despite the MM hype. I really believe if he hadn't gotten injured in his soph year, he'd be considered the superior prospect at this point.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 01:15 PM
I said that same thing last year. I truly believe AA is or will be a better overall pro prospect than MM. But I know we talked about this before, and I am starting to agree with what you said then Sniper. It may depend on what a certain team is looking for. A great deep threat that doesn't do much else, but has that big play ability, or an all around receiver. Personally, I think MM's speed is actually a little overrated, and AA's is a little underrated. So really, AA may end up being the superior NFL player in the end, despite the MM hype. I really believe if he hadn't gotten injured in his soph year, he'd be considered the superior prospect at this point.

I don't know how elite MM's timed speed will be, but most people here know I feel about timed vs. game speed. Rio is game fast, ask 4.2 something Justin King. Sick double move too.

HoopsDemon12
10-08-2007, 01:18 PM
I agree Rio is definitely not ready for the Show. He's awful on short and intermediate routes, has bricks for hands except on the deep ball, isn't a polished blocker and needs to stop hitting the reefer. But man, is he fun to watch on the deep ball. The more and more I watch Adrian Arrington, the more and more convinced I become he's a better pro prospect than MM. Arrington is the polar opposite of Manningham, besides the off-field issues. Great hands, willing blocker, great possession type guy. I don't know who I'd compare him too though. Maybe Hines Ward?

Im thinking a more athletic Jason Avant maybe?

Apriori
10-08-2007, 01:20 PM
Im thinking a more athletic Jason Avant maybe?

I can see that. Avant probably had better hands.

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 01:38 PM
I don't know how elite MM's timed speed will be, but most people here know I feel about timed vs. game speed. Rio is game fast, ask 4.2 something Justin King. Sick double move too.

I don't disagree. I still think Manningham seems faster than he really is though. IMO, alot of the times he gets so open behind the defense it's because of a great double move, rather than simply using speed. I just think people think he's faster than he is because they see him so far behind the defense.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 01:41 PM
I can see that. Avant probably had better hands.

I don't know, Arrington has got some really good hands. Then again, Avant has amazing hands. But more athletic, for sure. AA is probably a 4.5 guy, but his leaping ability is unreal.

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 01:43 PM
I don't know, Arrington has got some really good hands. Then again, Avant has amazing hands. But more athletic, for sure. AA is probably a 4.5 guy, but his leaping ability is unreal.

I'll always remember that catch Avant made in the corner of the endzone against MSU in 2004 in overtime. I still don't know how he got that foot down.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 02:08 PM
I'll always remember that catch Avant made in the corner of the endzone against MSU in 2004 in overtime. I still don't know how he got that foot down.

Wasn't that the game Braylon took a massive dump on MSU with something like 11-150-3? The 4,981 point comeback in the 4th? Jason is pretty athletic but not on AA's level. Though he had that sick catch, and the one vs. PSU in 05 on a deep out on the Touchdown Manningham! GW drive.

EDIT: Haha yes this was the Braylon massive dump game. http://youtube.com/watch?v=SyUimlCCbXU

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 02:11 PM
Wasn't that the game Braylon took a massive dump on MSU with something like 11-150-3? The 4,981 point comeback in the 4th? Jason is pretty athletic but not on AA's level. Though he had that sick catch, and the one vs. PSU in 05 on a deep out on the Touchdown Manningham! GW drive.

Yes, it absolutely was that game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUimlCCbXU

TACKLE
10-08-2007, 02:58 PM
I dont see the chambers oor the jenkins comparisions at all. Manningham is such a different player compared to Chambers.. way smaller.. and sadly probabaly less NFL ready

Jenkins and Kelly are both the same size (6'4 217) and have very similar body types. Both tall, rangy, athletic recievers with good but not great speed and good jumping ability. Their production was also pretty close in college.

Chambers plays bigger than his 5'11 frame would indicate and he's a big play guy who makes big catches when his team needs it, much like Manningham. Both have could solid speed and a knack for making big plays. Although Chambers can make the circus catch, neither Chambers or Mannignham will blow you away with their physical tools.

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Wasn't that the game Braylon took a massive dump on MSU with something like 11-150-3? The 4,981 point comeback in the 4th? Jason is pretty athletic but not on AA's level. Though he had that sick catch, and the one vs. PSU in 05 on a deep out on the Touchdown Manningham! GW drive.

EDIT: Haha yes this was the Braylon massive dump game. http://youtube.com/watch?v=SyUimlCCbXU

I almost had a stroke watching that game. I may have smoked 2 packs too. And then I think I may have seen god when Braylon caught the tying TD. I still watch that video when I feel bad. It always cheers me up.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 03:31 PM
I almost had a stroke watching that game. I may have smoked 2 packs too. And then I think I may have seen god when Braylon caught the tying TD. I still watch that video when I feel bad. It always cheers me up.

Massaquoi's 2 pt conversion was also quite sexy.

bored of education
10-08-2007, 03:35 PM
Taj Smith=Steve Smith. Kid will be lights out in the NFL, mark my words

zCaddyz
10-08-2007, 03:46 PM
Frank Okam what does he remind u guys of

ironman4579
10-08-2007, 04:43 PM
Massaquoi's 2 pt conversion was also quite sexy.

Very sexy.

PACKmanN
10-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Frank Okam what does he remind u guys of

a Ryan Pickett/Jimmy Kennedy type.

geaux tigers
10-09-2007, 03:26 PM
i've seen McNabb and Tebow?

Anyone remember what kind of prospect McNabb was in college?

rockio42
10-09-2007, 09:17 PM
ok this might be a long shot but Darren McFadden as a bigger Willie Parker

neko4
10-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Tim Tebow=Mobile Bernie Kosar

Don Vito
10-09-2007, 09:33 PM
A few BC seniors

DeJuan Tribble = Antoine Winfield
Matt Ryan = more athletic Matt Schaub
Gosder Cherilus = Tarik Glenn
BJ Raji = Casey Hampton
Jamie Silva = Ken Hamlin
JoLonn Dunbar = Odell Turman (but with his head on straight)
LV Whitworth = Ruben Droughns
Andre Callender = Kevin Faulk
Tyrone Pruitt = Cato June

DrEvil63
10-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Andre Woodson-Peyton Manning

Sniper
10-13-2007, 03:05 PM
Andre Woodson-Peyton Manning

Care to explain?

Xonraider
10-13-2007, 03:58 PM
Mike Hart - Jesus

nobodyinparticular
10-13-2007, 04:15 PM
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams ;)

Williams was a LOT faster coming out of UT than Sweed is. A LOT.

nobodyinparticular
10-13-2007, 04:23 PM
Colt Brennan = Tony Romo

gun slinger mentality
3 quarter release
excellent pocket awareness and escapability
oozes confidence; slightly brash
questionable size
comes from a small school
a winner
Accurate

Brennan has a quicker release cause Romo uses his shoulder more. Other than that, I like the comparison a lot.

I'm really starting to like this one.

Sniper
10-13-2007, 06:41 PM
Mike Hart - Jesus

Jesus doesn't break as many tackles as Hart.

TACKLE
10-13-2007, 11:28 PM
Ali Highsmith = Jon Beason

DrEvil63
10-14-2007, 10:05 AM
Care to explain?

Sure, they are both big sturdy passers for one--Woodson is undoubtably more athletic. Neither has blow you away arm strength, although both have very good arms. Very accurate in both cases. Both have extensive knowledge of their offense and are comfortable making audibles at the line. Finally, they both have a way of bringing their teammates up to their performance level. And Andre just proved all of my points in beating LSU yesterday afternoon. (My original post was before that game)
Hopefully that gives you some insight into my thought process.

Sniper
10-14-2007, 10:08 AM
Sure, they are both big sturdy passers for one--Woodson is undoubtably more athletic. Neither has blow you away arm strength, although both have very good arms. Very accurate in both cases. Both have extensive knowledge of their offense and are comfortable making audibles at the line. Finally, they both have a way of bringing their teammates up to their performance level. And Andre just proved all of my points in beating LSU yesterday afternoon. (My original post was before that game)
Hopefully that gives you some insight into my thought process.

I prefer Tom Brady for Woodson. Woodson's leadership is uncanny and there isn't another QB in college I'd want in the two minute drill. Manning could work too, I just see more Brady. Good job explaining though

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 04:59 PM
1.Jonal Saint-Dic-Dwight Freeney/Elvis Dumervil
2.Dorian Smith-Phillip Daniels
3.Keith Saunders-Jevon Kearse
4.J Leman-A.J Hawk ILB
5.Marcus Monk-Plaxico

HoopsDemon12
10-14-2007, 05:37 PM
1.Jonal Saint-Dic-Dwight Freeney/Elvis Dumervil
2.Dorian Smith-Phillip Daniels
3.Keith Saunders-Jevon Kearse
4.J Leman-A.J Hawk ILB
5.Marcus Monk-Plaxico

Marcus Monk - Drew Bennet

I just wanna throw this out there... i mean they are both not the fastest guys by any sense of the imagination... but with talent around them they can find open holes and perform at high levels.. both are tall. And when they have to take it all on themselves they struggle... good comparision?

619
10-14-2007, 05:40 PM
I prefer Tom Brady for Woodson. Woodson's leadership is uncanny and there isn't another QB in college I'd want in the two minute drill. Manning could work too, I just see more Brady. Good job explaining though

thats some high praise right there...i see more mcnabb

Billingsley26
10-14-2007, 05:51 PM
thats some high praise right there...i see more mcnabb

The only thing I really see in Woodson with Mcnabb is his physical tools. Size, Speed, build, etc....but overall, I like the Brady comparison.

draftguru151
10-14-2007, 06:30 PM
Woodson is nowhere near as mobile as McNabb. He's also 3 inches taller and not as thick. They aren't alike at all.

619
10-14-2007, 06:39 PM
The only thing I really see in Woodson with Mcnabb is his physical tools. Size, Speed, build, etc....but overall, I like the Brady comparison.

but hes no where near that accurate a passer

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 08:07 PM
what is John Stewert,Yvenson Bernard,Jason Williams and Sammie Straughters??????Even though sammie will now be coming out in 09

'cuse-213
10-14-2007, 08:15 PM
If woodson is planning to run around a 4.7, why does he never run? youre pretty athletic if you can run a 4.7

Borat
10-14-2007, 08:17 PM
John Carlson - reminds me of Eric Johnson.

BufFan71
10-14-2007, 08:37 PM
anthony morelli- Jp losman

619
10-14-2007, 08:53 PM
anthony morelli- Jp losman

im not sure if hes as athletic but they both have very strong arms no doubt

Sniper
10-14-2007, 09:33 PM
im not sure if hes as athletic but they both have very strong arms no doubt

And no mental skills

619
10-14-2007, 09:38 PM
andre woodson = jason campbell

rockio42
10-15-2007, 08:54 AM
andre woodson - steve mcnair

about the same size
both are big and can move in the pocket fairly well, mcnair a little more mobile at that age
good arm strength, but also very accurate

rockio42
10-15-2007, 08:55 AM
also, what does everyone think of Darren McFadden as a bigger Willie Parker

Apriori
10-15-2007, 09:17 AM
andre woodson - steve mcnair

about the same size
both are big and can move in the pocket fairly well, mcnair a little more mobile at that age
good arm strength, but also very accurate

I don't think so.
McNair was a lot more mobile when he was younger, and I think Woodson has better arm strength for his age.

rockio42
10-15-2007, 11:56 AM
fair enough apriori

I was also going to campare him to Donovan McNabb, but McNabb was a lot more mobile at that point, so maybe Jason Campbell - Andre Woodson

BufFan71
10-15-2007, 06:25 PM
And no mental skills

exactly wat i meant...

ljaxson
10-15-2007, 07:08 PM
what is John Stewert,Yvenson Bernard,Jason Williams and Sammie Straughters??????Even though sammie will now be coming out in 09

Please someone give me these

619
10-15-2007, 07:20 PM
Please someone give me these

forget the size jonathan stewart reminds me of MJD

rockio42
10-15-2007, 08:08 PM
ok top 4 qbs

Brian Brohm - Eli Manning or Matt Hasselbeck
Andre' Woodson - Ben Roethlisberger or Peyton Manning
Matt Ryan - Phillip Rivers or Matt Schaub
Colt Brennan - Marc Bulger or J.P. Losman

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
10-15-2007, 08:23 PM
Matt Ryan-Tom Brady

Geo
10-15-2007, 08:29 PM
Someone asked about Yvenson Bernard, I'd say a smaller, less (violently) explosive Marion Barber III might be an apt comparison. I'm not sure his vision is as good as Barber, I haven't seen as much of Bernard as I did of Barber in both college and the pros, but Bernard will likely make for a very good third down back prospect with his hands/receiving ability.

Apriori
10-15-2007, 08:47 PM
I think I like the Roethlisberger/Woodson comparison.

M.O.T.H.
10-16-2007, 12:27 AM
I think I like the Roethlisberger/Woodson comparison.

Big Ben is great under pressure, he's very slippery in the pocket. Also, he throws well on the run...Woodson needs a lot of work here. The perfect comparison, imo would be Jason Campbell. They both have that long winding delivery and possess great arm strength. Similar body types, similar athletically, have some speed but, would rather stay in the pocket. Both tend to hold onto the ball too long and have trouble sensing pressure. Accurate when given time but, tend to struggle when throwing on the move. I dont think you'll find a better comparison.

SuperKevin
10-16-2007, 12:43 AM
Big Ben is great under pressure, he's very slippery in the pocket. Also, he throws well on the run...Woodson needs a lot of work here. The perfect comparison, imo would be Jason Campbell. They both have that long winding delivery and possess great arm strength. Similar body types, similar athletically, have some speed but, would rather stay in the pocket. Both tend to hold onto the ball too long and have trouble sensing pressure. Accurate when given time but, tend to struggle when throwing on the move. I dont think you'll find a better comparison.


Sorry for the Black QB to Black QB comparison but Andre Woodson really reminds me of Donovan McNabb coming into the league. You have a great QB who with excellent senior leadership taking a historically weak program to new levels. Both have more than adequate arm strength and accuracy with the ability to be a threat outside of the pocket. I'd say McNabb was a more polished runner but Woodson isn't too far behind(He just never has to run with all those WRs to throw to)

M.O.T.H.
10-16-2007, 12:58 AM
I dont see that one...body type is totally different and Mcnabb has a cannon. Also, Mcnabb has always had good awareness and ecsabaility when under pressure and loved to take off. You'll rarely see Woodson tuck it in and run with it and he needs a lot of work when pressured. When I see him play, I see a Campbell clone out there.

SuperKevin
10-16-2007, 01:00 AM
I dont see that one...body type is totally different and Mcnabb has a cannon. Also, Mcnabb has always had good awareness and ecsabaility when under pressure and loved to take off. You'll rarely see Woodson tuck it in and run with it and he needs a lot of work when pressured. When I see him play, I see a Campbell clone out there.

That works a lot more than the McNabb one. I don't know but I just see a young McNabb when i see Woodson.

M.O.T.H.
10-16-2007, 02:20 AM
Someone asked about Yvenson Bernard, I'd say a smaller, less (violently) explosive Marion Barber III might be an apt comparison. I'm not sure his vision is as good as Barber, I haven't seen as much of Bernard as I did of Barber in both college and the pros, but Bernard will likely make for a very good third down back prospect with his hands/receiving ability.

This is a good comparison. The dreads arent the only thing they have in common. Bernard may only be tipping the scales at about 200 lbs and standing around 5'7/5'8 but, this guys not going to shy away from contact. He's no where near as powerful or forceful as a Barber but, he runs with that same nasty nature. He also possesses Barber's signature, hopping-juking style. He's also a solid receiver out of the backfield and a good blocker like Marion. Sometimes you'd swear you were watching MBIII out there. So yeah, essentially Bernard is a miniature Marion Barber. That is a solid comparison.

San Diego Chicken
10-16-2007, 04:56 AM
Here are a few that I like.


Darren McFadden = Marcus Allen.

Both McFadden and Allen are/were tall, lanky speed backs with unique versatility (Allen was a HS QB and threw quite a few passes in the NFL). Both are extremely fast accelerating through the line of scrimmage and both are highly accomplished college backs who at times had to share the load with other talented players.

Adarius Bowman = Terrell Owens

Size comparison is striking here, both players physically look very similar, very very big, strong frames for wide recievers. Both excel at gaining yards after the catch and yards after contact. Neither has terrific hands and drop passes at times but that never stops them from being the primary wide recieving threat in their offense.

rockio42
10-16-2007, 09:27 PM
Top 6 RB's, these are a little worse

Darren McFadden - Rudi Johnson or Marion Barber
Mike Hart - Dominic Rhodes or Frank Gore
Steve Slaton - Warrick Dunn or Brian Westbrook
Jonathan Stewart - Clinton Portis or Kevin Jones
Allen Patrick - Ahman Green or Chester Taylor
Tashard Choice - Cadillac Williams or Julius Jones

a little sketchy, but eh i havent seen much video on all of them

Apriori
10-16-2007, 09:50 PM
I'm not seeing the McFadden-Rudi/MB3.

McFadden isn't really a pounder like those guys, but he's more quick than both of them (especially Barber)

SenorGato
10-17-2007, 01:19 AM
Matt Ryan-Tom Brady

Erik Ainge reminds me more of Brady.

Green Bay Scat
10-17-2007, 02:32 AM
Earl Bennett - Sterling Sharpe, Antonio Freeman

from homer to homer

duckseason
10-17-2007, 06:39 AM
Sorry for the Black QB to Black QB comparison but Andre Woodson really reminds me of Donovan McNabb coming into the league. You have a great QB who with excellent senior leadership taking a historically weak program to new levels. Both have more than adequate arm strength and accuracy with the ability to be a threat outside of the pocket. I'd say McNabb was a more polished runner but Woodson isn't too far behind(He just never has to run with all those WRs to throw to)

Dude Syracuse was a good team from the mid to late 80s all the way up until a few years ago. Maybe I'm misreading your post, but it seems to imply that McNabb brought that program to new levels. Don't mean to nitpick, but I think you're severely understating the difference in rushing ability. I think people forget how big a part of McNabb's game that was coming out of college. If I remember correctly, he actually led his team in rushing attempts during one or two seasons while he was there. If Woodson really is capable of using his legs as a weapon, I find it odd that he fails to do so. A WR named Marvin never kept Donovan from utilizing his abilities as a runner. But I agree that Woodson moves well in the pocket for such a big guy.

I don't know who Woodson reminds me of at this point, but I was surprised to read that an NFL scout compared him to Dan McGwire. He said Woodson is too robotic and makes too many dumb decisions. I believe he based this opinion on what he saw in the South Carolina game. Can't remember where I read this though.

Sniper
10-18-2007, 07:01 AM
Ironman,

Of course after we trash Mario for not being consistent and being good on short routes he goes out and dominates ;) We need to do that before the O-State game :)

OzTitan
10-18-2007, 09:57 AM
You mean if Lawrence Jackson was forty pounds heavier and a defensive tackle, then yeah he is like Seymour...

heh, after all this time, I just realized who I meant for the Richard Seymour comparison - Tyson Jackson. Still a bit smaller but same style of DE I believe.

Solomon
10-18-2007, 11:20 AM
lol going form 6th string QB in Michigan to the Patriots starter, yea that's a huge improvement. But Brady's a unique story.

To be completely accurate he went from being the 6th string QB to rapidly climbing the charts and starting his last two years at Michigan. As a junior he set school records for attempts and completions and completed 61.1% of his passes for 2636 yds. As a senior he put up 63% of his passes for 2586 yds, 20 TDs and only 6 ints. He fell through the cracks of the draft because he didn't have jaw dropping measurables and physical tools but it isn't like he came out of nowhere and even throughout college he improved every season. Alot of the Draft bios of Brady said he could be a starter in the right season which is something that most 6th round QBs don't get. His biggest weakness was his frail build and average arm strength but he added weight and got much stronger in his upper body which obviously also helped him in terms of arm strength.

In some ways Brady has altered the way scouts evaluate prospects, they seem to place slightly less value on pure physical tools than they did 8 years ago (see jim druckenmiller) and have begun to place more value on the cerebral and work habit aspect. Without Brady I don't think John Beck or Alex Smith would have been quite as highly regarded as they were.

Solomon
10-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Also here are a few comparisons I see.

Darren McFadden - Edgerrin James
Jon Stewart - Cory Dillon
Mike Hart - Curtis Martin
Steve Slaton - Napolean Kaufman
Jake Long - Willie Roaf

Glenn Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Sedrick Ellis - Rod Coleman
Quentin Groves - John Abraham
Chris Long - Patrick Kerney ( a little too convenient, a DE from Virginia with about the same size, a non-stop motor and can rush the passer and play the run)
Vernon Gholston - Shawne Merrimen
Kenny Phillips - Michael Huff

Sniper
10-18-2007, 12:15 PM
Alot of the Draft bios of Brady said he could be a starter in the right season which is something that most 6th round QBs don't get. His biggest weakness was his frail build and average arm strength but he added weight and got much stronger in his upper body which obviously also helped him in terms of arm strength.



He did add some upper body strength, but adding lower body and core strength would be much more crucial to developing the cannon he has now. The fact that he ran something like a 5.2 at the Combine probably didn't help his cause ;)

Geo
10-18-2007, 12:19 PM
The Tom Brady of today is a far cry from the Tom Brady who was drafted in the 6th round of the 2000 Draft. He's progressed mightily over the years, with each passing season.

Apriori
10-18-2007, 02:01 PM
Let me run this one by you guys...

Shawn Crable=Shawne Merriman minus ridiculous pass rushing skills.

They're both big maulers at LB.

mqtirishfan
10-18-2007, 02:08 PM
Let me run this one by you guys...

Shawn Crable=Shawne Merriman minus ridiculous pass rushing skills.

They're both big maulers at LB.


Christ, I see Chad Henne as Peyton Manning without the amazing passing skills, then.

Sniper
10-18-2007, 02:37 PM
Let me run this one by you guys...

Shawn Crable=Shawne Merriman minus ridiculous pass rushing skills.

They're both big maulers at LB.

Crable is actually a really good pass rusher.

ironman4579
10-18-2007, 07:23 PM
Crable is actually a really good pass rusher.

I would have to agree. I've always thought his forte was rushing the passer and making disruptive plays around(and especially behind) the line of scrimmage, rather than dropping back into coverage. Although he does have at least an ok number of BrUp's in his career, I believe around 7.

Apriori
10-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Crable is actually a really good pass rusher.

He's not Merriman, though.
And mqtirishfan, if you think all there is to Merriman is his pass rush ability, then you don't watch enough football.

ironman4579
10-18-2007, 07:43 PM
He's not Merriman, though.
And mqtirishfan, if you think all there is to Merriman is his pass rush ability, then you don't watch enough football.


Probably true. I think it was just the way you worded it, it sounded like you meant Crable didn't have pass rush ability, or was a weak pass rusher. I see what you were saying now.

mqtirishfan
10-18-2007, 07:54 PM
He's not Merriman, though.
And mqtirishfan, if you think all there is to Merriman is his pass rush ability, then you don't watch enough football.

Of course that's not all there is to him, but Merriman without his pass-rushing skills certainly isn't a top-notch player.

BaLLiN
10-18-2007, 08:06 PM
Brian Brohm-Peyton Manning
Limas Sweed- Roy Williams
Antoine Cason- Chris McAlister
Malcolm Jenkins- Chris Gamble
Andre Woodson- David Garrard?

Sniper
10-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Brian Brohm-Peyton Manning
Limas Sweed- Roy Williams
Antoine Cason- Chris McAlister
Malcolm Jenkins- Chris Gamble
Andre Woodson- David Garrard?

Don't insult Andre Woodson like that, that's mean.

BaLLiN
10-18-2007, 08:31 PM
I like andre woodson, but i haven't seen David Garrard this year, but last year Garrard looked good, and like a leader similar to Andre Woodson. I saw more of a pass first qb with ability to run, and a clutch player, but i thought that either Jason Campbell or Garrard would be good comparisons

Apriori
10-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Limas Sweed to Roy Williams comparisons continue to boggle my mind. Unless you think he has something in common with the Safety?

And regarding the Crable=Merriman minus ridiculous pass rushing skills comparison, I understand where you guys are coming from...I was trying to emphasize the "ridiculous". I briefly considered saying "ridonkulous" but wasn't sure how to spell it.

rockio42
10-19-2007, 08:38 AM
i agree on the Limas Sweed to Roy Williams one, in the game i saw of Limas Sweed i havent seen ANYTHING close to the athletacism of Roy Williams, stop trying to compare just cause they are from the same school

Young Legend
10-19-2007, 12:02 PM
Josh Barrett-Adrian Wilson ..is that fair

HoopsDemon12
10-19-2007, 12:33 PM
Brian Brohm-Peyton Manning
Limas Sweed- Roy Williams
Antoine Cason- Chris McAlister
Malcolm Jenkins- Chris Gamble
Andre Woodson- David Garrard?


Sweed is no where near the athlete or player roy was coming out.. i dont really see much of a comparision unless you mean he is tall, black, both wore the same number and played at texas... if thats what you mean then i completly see the comparison.. but i dont see playing wise at all.

ironman4579
10-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Ironman,

Of course after we trash Mario for not being consistent and being good on short routes he goes out and dominates ;) We need to do that before the O-State game :)

Of course, could it have happened any differently my friend? Seriously though, I still think he needs another year.

gstock05
10-19-2007, 09:09 PM
Brian Brohm-Peyton Manning
Limas Sweed- Roy Williams
Antoine Cason- Chris McAlister
Malcolm Jenkins- Chris Gamble
Andre Woodson- David Garrard?

that is the worst player comparison list i've ever seen. None of the comparisons are good..

DChess
10-23-2007, 10:10 AM
Brian Brohm-Peyton Manning
Limas Sweed- Roy Williams
Antoine Cason- Chris McAlister
Malcolm Jenkins- Chris Gamble
Andre Woodson- David Garrard?

im sorry but those are awful comparisons.

i love how you picked sweed, cason and jenkins with all alum, which doesnt make it even close.

limas sweed- michael clayton
antoine cason- jonathen joesph
malcolm jenkins- nothings coming to mind, defitnaly not gamble though
andre woodson- donavan mcnabb

matt ryan- kyle boller
glenn dorsey- warren sapp (not just his play but the way he carries himself)

megansett56BC
10-23-2007, 11:25 AM
i don't see cason - joseph... cason doesn't have nearly as much speed as joseph. granted, that's not everything, but i still don't see it.

DChess
10-23-2007, 11:26 AM
i don't see cason - joseph... cason doesn't have nearly as much speed as joseph. granted, that's not everything, but i still don't see it.

yeah i couldnt think of a could one. i was thinking about richard marshall

no love
10-23-2007, 01:12 PM
So I am hearing a lot of this Andre Woodson to Gerrard. But to me Andre Woodson looks alot more like Byron Leftwich with more athleticism.

Similar size and stature, both stand tall in the pocket (6'5") and are big guys, (over 230 lbs). Both guys seem to have an elongated release (have a long windup instead of a compact 3/4 motion), with good arms and pretty balls. And most importantly both work out of the shotgun a good deal.

DChess
10-23-2007, 01:33 PM
i really see him as a donovan mcnabb type player, big body, could move around in the pocket with a live arm.

SuperKevin
10-23-2007, 01:34 PM
i really see him as a donovan mcnabb type player, big body, could move around in the pocket with a live arm.

I made that same comparison a few pages back and got blasted for it

ironman4579
10-23-2007, 01:38 PM
I made that same comparison a few pages back and got blasted for it

At least Hacksaw gives you a thumbs up.

SuperKevin
10-23-2007, 01:39 PM
At least Hacksaw gives you a thumbs up.

It really is a confidence booster

ironman4579
10-23-2007, 01:45 PM
It really is a confidence booster

Your new theme music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q_Ly5B345A

SenorGato
10-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Crable = Jason Taylor

Same body type, excellent pass rushers, both use their long ass arms to force fumbles, and both are decent tacklers.

DChess
10-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Crable = Jason Taylor

Same body type, excellent pass rushers, both use their long ass arms to force fumbles, and both are decent tacklers.

nah, crable is bigger width ways, and is not nearly the pass rusher from the stance taylor is. im sorry i dont really like this comparison. i want to say a poor mans demarcus ware, but even ware can line up in the stance and rush. willie mcginest?

Primetime21
10-23-2007, 08:25 PM
Speaking of Mcnabb I have been thinking on how similar Tebow and Mcnabb. It may just be me but they seem pretty close.

1. Glenn Dorsey= Warren Sapp
2. Jake Long= Bryant Mckinnie but worse at Pass blocking
3. Chris Long= Patrick Kerney
4. Brian Brohm= Phillip Rivers
5. Sedrick Ellis= Havent watched enough
6. Andre' Woodson= David Carr
7. Matt Ryan= Matt Hasselback
8. Sam Baker= Debrickishaw Ferguson
9. Keith Rivers= Lance Briggs
10 Dan Connor= Dan Morgan .
Top 10 seniors

DChess
10-23-2007, 08:27 PM
Speaking of Mcnabb I have been thinking on how similar Tebow and Mcnabb. It may just be me but they seem pretty close.

1. Glenn Dorsey= Warren Sapp
2. Jake Long= Bryant Mckinnie but worse at Pass blocking
3. Chris Long= Patrick Kerney
4. Brian Brohm= Phillip Rivers
5. Sedrick Ellis= Havent watched enough
6. Andre' Woodson= David Carr
7. Matt Ryan= Matt Hasselback
8. Sam Baker= Debrickishaw Ferguson
9. Keith Rivers= Lance Briggs
10 Dan Connor= Dan Morgan .
Top 10 seniors


i like a lot of those. dont know if i agree with the brohm rivers comparison. rivers mechanics arent perfect, unlike brohm who has a nice over the top motion. brennan=rivers

also what do you guys think of

sedrick ellis= dewayne robertson (when he came out)

BaLLiN
10-23-2007, 08:50 PM
im sorry but those are awful comparisons.

i love how you picked sweed, cason and jenkins with all alum, which doesnt make it even close.

limas sweed- michael clayton
antoine cason- jonathen joesph
malcolm jenkins- nothings coming to mind, defitnaly not gamble though
andre woodson- donavan mcnabb

matt ryan- kyle boller
glenn dorsey- warren sapp (not just his play but the way he carries himself)

I did body type comparisons on mine because i didnt watch the people on the right because im only 15 and havent payed much attention to college football.

DChess
10-23-2007, 09:17 PM
I did body type comparisons on mine because i didnt watch the people on the right because im only 15 and havent payed much attention to college football.

i didnt mean to bash you sry about that. but even those body typs are wrong but it will come with time

ironman4579
10-23-2007, 09:21 PM
He'll get better with age and experience. Look at me. When you're my age, you still won't know anything, but you'll know better than to post a list in a thread like this! Seriously though, I suck at player comparisons, so I can't say too much.

Primetime21
10-23-2007, 09:29 PM
i didnt mean to bash you sry about that. but even those body typs are wrong but it will come with time

You sound as if making player comparisons is like ancient art or rocket science, and its not. Pretty much shows how much you watch football and your understanding of the game.

Don Vito
10-23-2007, 09:33 PM
DeJuan Tribble = Antoine Winfield
BenJarvus Green-Ellis = Sammy Morris
Tony Hills = Jason Peters
Martin Rucker = Antonio Gates
Erik Ainge = Matt Schaub
Todd Blythe = Ernest Wilford
Dre Moore = Kris Jenkins
DJ Hall = Mushin Muhammed

619
10-23-2007, 09:38 PM
DeJuan Tribble = Antoine Winfield
BenJarvus Green-Ellis = Sammy Morris
Tony Hills = Jason Peters
Martin Rucker = Antonio Gates
Erik Ainge = Matt Schaub
Todd Blythe = Ernest Wilford
Dre Moore = Kris Jenkins
DJ Hall = Mushin Muhammed

i think u are being a bit generous by comparing martin rucker to antonio gates who is just something we have never seen before at that position..forget gonzalez

DChess
10-23-2007, 09:40 PM
You sound as if making player comparisons is like ancient art or rocket science, and its not. Pretty much shows how much you watch football and your understanding of the game.

which comes with time. thanks for proving my point

Don Vito
10-23-2007, 09:41 PM
Rucker and Gates are similar because they both get great position and have the ability to line up at WR. They wont wow you with measurables or blocking ability but they are just great pass catchers and playmakers.

SenorGato
10-24-2007, 08:16 AM
nah, crable is bigger width ways, and is not nearly the pass rusher from the stance taylor is. im sorry i dont really like this comparison. i want to say a poor mans demarcus ware, but even ware can line up in the stance and rush. willie mcginest?

McGinest is huge. He's probably got like 20 pounds on Crable.

DeMarcus Ware strikes me as someone stronger than Crable, and he's one of the best tacklers in the NFL.

Taylor and Crable have nearly identical body types and both of them use their arm length and hands very well when rushing the passer. They're both at their best attacking the line of scrimmage and making plays behind (or at) the LOS.

nhlkdog411
10-24-2007, 09:25 AM
Quote WARD:
Originally Posted by Freddy G View Post
Chris Long-Marcus Spears with more fire and motor, but less talent and athletic ability. Will probably make a better pro than Spears.
Fixed it for you.
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Are you serious? Marcus spears is like 300 pounds and ran a 5.03 forty while Chris Long is like 270-280 and runs like a 4.7...not only a crappy comparison but how in hell is spears more athletic?

Don Vito
10-24-2007, 09:29 AM
McGinest is huge. He's probably got like 20 pounds on Crable.

DeMarcus Ware strikes me as someone stronger than Crable, and he's one of the best tacklers in the NFL.

Taylor and Crable have nearly identical body types and both of them use their arm length and hands very well when rushing the passer. They're both at their best attacking the line of scrimmage and making plays behind (or at) the LOS.

DeMarcus Ware proved last week that being the biggest does not make you the strongest. He was giving up about 100 pounds on Mount McKinney and still was able to not just blow by him but he went through him on multiple occassions. DeMarcus Ware is a flat-out man.

Gholston reminds me of Ware a little bit, at least moreso than anyone else in this class. They both have the ability to beat you with strength or speed while getting to the QB and once they get to you, you're gonna feel it.

SenorGato
10-24-2007, 09:33 AM
DeMarcus Ware proved last week that being the biggest does not make you the strongest. He was giving up about 100 pounds on Mount McKinney and still was able to not just blow by him but he went through him on multiple occassions. DeMarcus Ware is a flat-out man.

Gholston reminds me of Ware a little bit, at least moreso than anyone else in this class. They both have the ability to beat you with strength or speed while getting to the QB and once they get to you, you're gonna feel it.

"Strikes me as stronger" was a nice way of putting it. Ware was one of the strongest players in the 2005 draft.

I like the Gholston/Ware comp because they play very similarly. Gholston isn't the pass rusher Merriman is (which is why I don't like that comp), but he's a very good all around player with freak speed/strength numbers (much like Ware).

nhlkdog411
10-24-2007, 09:40 AM
I'm so tired of all the black-black, white-white player comparisons that make absolutely zero sense other than the fact that the players have the same skin color (largely irrelevant to playing football). Is it even possible to seriously compare Andre Woodson's passing skills to David Garrards? Thats freaking insulting to a guy who could be the first QB off the board this draft. My best comparison for him would be Ben Roethlisberger, or like someone else said a way more athletic Byron Leftwich (who just might be the slowest player in NFL history). He has big size, good but not great mobility and a nice arm, although I feel like he tends to float some throws a bit.

Apriori
10-24-2007, 10:50 AM
I'm so tired of all the black-black, white-white player comparisons that make absolutely zero sense other than the fact that the players have the same skin color (largely irrelevant to playing football). Is it even possible to seriously compare Andre Woodson's passing skills to David Garrards? Thats freaking insulting to a guy who could be the first QB off the board this draft. My best comparison for him would be Ben Roethlisberger, or like someone else said a way more athletic Byron Leftwich (who just might be the slowest player in NFL history). He has big size, good but not great mobility and a nice arm, although I feel like he tends to float some throws a bit.

This is what happened back when the Big Ben to Woodson comparison was brought up.

Big Ben is great under pressure, he's very slippery in the pocket. Also, he throws well on the run...Woodson needs a lot of work here. The perfect comparison, imo would be Jason Campbell. They both have that long winding delivery and possess great arm strength. Similar body types, similar athletically, have some speed but, would rather stay in the pocket. Both tend to hold onto the ball too long and have trouble sensing pressure. Accurate when given time but, tend to struggle when throwing on the move. I dont think you'll find a better comparison.

I'm sure it doesn't help that he's comparing his to Jason Campbell, lolol.

DeathbyStat
10-26-2007, 09:54 AM
Tim Tebow=Big Ben

Sniper
10-26-2007, 10:01 AM
Tim Tebeau=Big Ben

It's really not that hard to spell Tebow, come on. I could kind of see it, but Tebow runs with so much reckless abandon it's hard to compare him to anyone there. Like a Big Ben passer with Adrian Peterson running style ;)

Apriori
10-26-2007, 03:40 PM
It's really not that hard to spell Tebow, come on. I could kind of see it, but Tebow runs with so much reckless abandon it's hard to compare him to anyone there. Like a Big Ben passer with Adrian Peterson running style ;)

Tebow=Young Kordell Stewart plus some size, or
Josh McCown plus some strength and field awareness.

Shiver
10-27-2007, 03:16 PM
Percy Harvin = Reggie Bush

DrEvil63
11-01-2007, 04:16 PM
Glenn Dorsey-Marcus Stroud (Dorsey is very strong at the point of attack and is a great pass rusher as well-much like Stroud)
Sedrick Ellis-Warren Sapp

Apriori
11-01-2007, 05:49 PM
Percy Harvin = Reggie Bush

That's saying a lot of Percy Harvin, certainly. Probably too much. Way too much. At this point, anyways. He's only a sophomore, I think, but he's not even the best sophomore on his offense this far.

Babylon
11-01-2007, 06:27 PM
Glen Dorsey= Jerome Brown
Brian Brohm= Jim Kelley
Sam Baker =Jordan Gross
Darren Mcfadden=Wilbert Montgomery
Tom Zibikoswki=Mike Brown
Brian Cushing-=Chad Greenway
Darren Woodson=Kerry Collins
Jonathon Stewart=Emmit Smith
Jordy Nelson=Kirk Gibson
Matt Ryan=Tom Brady

Some of these are going back aways and some are pretty optimistic but what the heck.

ripdw27
11-01-2007, 06:38 PM
i dont watch very much college football either so dont come down to hard on me...

jonathan stewart - steven jackson?
desean jackson - ted ginn jr
brian brohm - philip rivers or maybe carson palmer
glen dorsey - john henderson
andre woodson - probably closest to mcnabb

idk like i said the only college football besides highlights i watch is wisconsin and arkansas when i get the chance (mcfadden)

HoopsDemon12
11-01-2007, 06:45 PM
glen dorsey - john henderson


ill take you really meant you dont watch much, dorsey is like 6'1 290 and henderson is like 6'7-6'8 315ish

benjamink15
11-02-2007, 12:44 PM
ill take you really meant you dont watch much, dorsey is like 6'1 290 and henderson is like 6'7-6'8 315ish

LOL took the words right out of my mouth

Dorsey may end up being like DORSEY. He may change the game but right now he looks like Warren Sapp.

DrEvil63
11-02-2007, 12:55 PM
LOL took the words right out of my mouth

Dorsey may end up being like DORSEY. He may change the game but right now he looks like Warren Sapp.

I really don't agree with Sapp/Dorsey much. Warren was faster and more explosive in his prime. While Dorsey is still elite in those categories in my mind, he is not on the level of Sapp. Also Dorsey is a stronger player, especially at his development stage. I still think that the best comparison is Marcus Stroud. (although dorsey is shorter) But both are stout enough to play run defense and athletic enough to play sideline to sideline.

thule
11-02-2007, 01:02 PM
"Strikes me as stronger" was a nice way of putting it. Ware was one of the strongest players in the 2005 draft.

I like the Gholston/Ware comp because they play very similarly. Gholston isn't the pass rusher Merriman is (which is why I don't like that comp), but he's a very good all around player with freak speed/strength numbers (much like Ware).

Ware was strong in the draft class...but he wasn't on a Merriman level imo. Merriman came into the league and dominated right away...he was as NFL ready as possible in his situation. Ware didn't have nearly the bulk and had terrible hands.

His first offseason he underwent a transformation...Joe Jurazk(sp) and other team members said his body structure was dramatically changed. This translated on the field too. So while Ware might have be strong out of Troy...he wasn't a NFL Ready prospect...body wise...one offseason training really transformed him. I'm pretty sure he was in that 240-245 range season one...going into his second season he was right around that 260 range...15-20lbs in one offseason is quite the change.

Shiver
11-02-2007, 02:00 PM
That's saying a lot of Percy Harvin, certainly. Probably too much. Way too much. At this point, anyways. He's only a sophomore, I think, but he's not even the best sophomore on his offense this far.

He certainly as good of a college player as Bush was, but how Florida uses him is almost identical to how New Orleans' uses Bush.

Apriori
11-02-2007, 03:51 PM
He certainly as good of a college player as Bush was, but how Florida uses him is almost identical to how New Orleans' uses Bush.

eh...
Bush with the Saints: 11 rushes/game, 6 receptions/game
Harvin this year: 4.2 rushes/game, 3.5 receptions/game

And you can't tell me that he's as good a college player as Bush was until he has an absolutely bananas game like Bush's game against Fresno State (513 all-purpose yards, ~300 rushing yards).

DrEvil63
11-02-2007, 04:46 PM
From my mock in the mock draft section:
I was told that these were inaccurate; however, I feel that they are simply different and still valid. Please let me know what you think.

Jake Long OT Mich (Jammal Brown)
Glenn Dorsey DT LSU (Marcus Stroud)
Darren McFadden HB ARK (LaDainian Tomlinson)
Andre Woodson QB KEN (Peyton Manning)
James Laurinitis LB OSU (Nick Barnett)
Sedrick Ellis DT USC (La'Roi Glover)
Sam Baker OT USC (Chad Clifton)
Matt Ryan QB BC (Phillip Rivers)
Jonathan Stewart HB ORE (Marion Barber)
Brian Brohm QB UL (Drew Brees)
Chris Long DE UVA (Mike Rucker-rich man's)
Rey Maualuga MLB USC (Faster Jerimiah Trotter)
Malcolm Jenkins CB OSU (Marcus Trufant)
Kenny Phillips S UM (More potential Kerry Rhodes)
Dan Connors LB PSU (Kirk Morrison)
DeSean Jackson WR Cal (Steve Smith)
Calais Campbell DE UM (Osi Umenyra sp)
Gosder Cherilus OT BC (John Tait)
Aqid Talib CB KU (Nnamdi Asomugha)
Malcolm Kelly WR OU (Plaxico Burress)
Ryan Clady OT BSU (Chris Samuels)
Dre Moore DT UMD (Richard Seymour)
Mike Oher OG MISS (Skinnier Shawn Andrews)
Keith Rivers LB USC (Jonathan Vilma)
Early Doucet WR LSU (T.J. Houshmandzadeh)
Derrick Harvey DE UF (Mark Anderson)
DeJuan Tribble CB BC (Al Harris)
Steve Slaton HB WVU (Priest Holmes)
Ray Rice HB RU (Michael Turner)
Tyson Jackson DE LSU (Trevor Pryce)
Reggie Smith FS OU (Mike Brown)

DWilliams2IndyColts
11-02-2007, 07:18 PM
Darren McFadden=DeAngelo Williams.

SenorGato
11-03-2007, 12:47 AM
McFadden = A taller MJD

Sniper
11-03-2007, 07:19 AM
Ray Rice HB RU (Michael Turner)


Majority are okay, but this one made me laugh. Michael Turner has some serious wheels, whereas Ray Rice is more of a 4.5-4.6 guy and doesn't play really fast

keylime_5
11-03-2007, 10:44 AM
I like the Malcolm Kelly to Roy Williams and James Hardy to Plaxico Burress comparisons I've heard. As for Chris Long he can be compared to so many players from Aaron Smith to Justin Smith to Trevor Pryce to Mike Rucker, etc. I think he's gonna be a great player.

BuddyCHRIST
11-03-2007, 11:02 AM
He certainly as good of a college player as Bush was, but how Florida uses him is almost identical to how New Orleans' uses Bush.

he's not even close to as good as Bush was, Bush was a Heisman finalist as a sophmore.

PACKmanN
11-03-2007, 11:19 AM
Im not sure about this one but what about Martellus Bennett= Bubba Franks?

killa3312
11-04-2007, 10:48 PM
he's not even close to as good as Bush was, Bush was a Heisman finalist as a sophmore.

Bush also got a lot more touches as well, it's not a fair comparison. Harvin's YPT is insanely good and if Florida didn't spread out the wealth so much, he'd have some obsurd numbers. Instead, he's on pace for 'only' 1,600 total yards.

Harvin, ability wise, is very similar to Bush. That's not a stretch to say at all. The only difference is that Harvin is a WR, while Bush is a RB.

Matthew Jones
11-29-2007, 11:09 AM
Here are my comparisons off the top of my head, during school today. Feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Darren McFadden - LaDainian Tomlinson
Glenn Dorsey - Tommie Harris
Brian Brohm - Drew Brees
Chris Long - Adam Carriker
Jake Long - Robert Gallery
Andre' Woodson - Ben Roethlisberger
Dan Connor - Paul Posluszny
Michael Oher - Marcus McNeill
DeSean Jackson - Ted Ginn Jr.
Vernon Gholston - Shawne Merriman
Ryan Clady - Khalif Barnes
Keith Rivers - Ernie Sims
Mario Manningham - Santonio Holmes
Tyson Jackson - Marcus Spears
Derrick Harvey - Manny Lawson
Frank Okam - Marcus Tubbs
Earl Bennett - Chad Jackson
DeJuan Tribble - Antoine Winfield
Dwight Lowery - Daymeion Hughes
DeMario Pressley - John McCargo
John Carlson - Anthony Fasano
Tony Hills - Eric Winston
Vince Hall - Buster Davis
Trae Williams - Ellis Hobbs
Josh Barrett - Darnell Bing

packer_pat_4
12-02-2007, 01:18 AM
okay, this might seem weird BUT i get an Aaron Rodgers vibe from Matt Ryan. Decent enough mobility to keep D honest, spot on accuracy at times, can throw into tight spots but will make the occasional bad throw, arm to make all of the throws but not big enoughto scare anyone. Intagibles both reportedly good. Both are good at everything, not great in one area. What do you think?

SuperKevin
12-02-2007, 01:24 AM
DeSean Jackson - Ted Ginn Jr.


I'd go for more of a Santana Moss comparison. He's a better natural reciever than Ted Ginn Jr.

ljaxson
12-02-2007, 01:33 AM
Yvenson Bernard any1 have 1 for me?

YAYareaRB
12-02-2007, 01:51 AM
Yvenson Bernard any1 have 1 for me?

Marshawn Lynch

neko4
12-02-2007, 02:16 AM
June Jones compares Brennan to Marino and Jeff George. Aside from his quick realease and unorthodox throwing style i dont see it. Anyone have a comparison for brennan?

PACKmanN
12-02-2007, 02:42 AM
June Jones compares Brennan to Marino and Jeff George. Aside from his quick realease and unorthodox throwing style i dont see it. Anyone have a comparison for brennan?

after watching some videos, I see a lot of Michael Vick in him, just not the run first type like a Jeff Garcia mind set. His throws are like Vick and the way he moves in the pocket. The way he throws the ball is like Rich Gannon, with his under throw movement of his arm.

Throwing Motion- Rich Gannon
Mind Set- Jeff Garcia
Pass type- Michael Vick



Also, whats all the hype in Jeff Otah, he reminds me a lot like Charles Spencer...

LonghornsLegend
12-02-2007, 02:53 AM
Andre Woodson reminds me alot of Jason Campbell, and they look related as well

fenikz
12-02-2007, 02:53 AM
June Jones compares Brennan to Marino and Jeff George. Aside from his quick realease and unorthodox throwing style i dont see it. Anyone have a comparison for brennan?

Jeff Garcia=Brennan

as long as Brennan is put in the right system in the pros he will thrive

SuperKevin
12-02-2007, 02:57 AM
Also, whats all the hype in Jeff Otah, he reminds me a lot like Charles Spencer...

He has athleticism that is considered amazing for a man his size. Throw in the fact that he's basically a blank slate waiting to be molded by an NFL line coach. Teams are going to be wanting this guy badly.

PACKmanN
12-02-2007, 03:02 AM
He has athleticism that is considered amazing for a man his size. Throw in the fact that he's basically a blank slate waiting to be molded by an NFL line coach. Teams are going to be wanting this guy badly.

wasn't Spencer all that too.... I don't understand the difference between the two.

draftguru151
12-02-2007, 08:13 AM
Spencer was developing into a very nice LT for the Texans. Otah is also ahead of Spencer was at this point.

Xonraider
12-02-2007, 08:27 AM
I usually suck with these... but:

Andre Woodson - Kerry Collins.
Mike Hart - Curtis Martin.

Give me your opinions.

I'm scared of saying anymore cuz I'm pretty bad with them... lol

BufFan71
12-02-2007, 09:48 AM
Harry Douglas WR UL- Lee Evans
Quintin Demps S UTEP- Kerry Rhodes

619
12-02-2007, 10:20 AM
i really like the colt brennan to rich gannon comparison.