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Sniper
09-20-2007, 07:00 PM
Ok, I looked but didn't see a thread for Crable. I wanted to get a feel for what everyone thinks of this guy. He's been really good (save a couple plays) for Michigan this year, a bright spot on a very weak defense. He's got 23 tackles, 8 TFL for 25 yards, 5 sacks, 1 PBU and 1 FF. He's 6'5, 240 and is a 4.55-4.6 type guy. Not the brightest guy with some of his on-field antics, but where does everyone project him?

fenikz
09-20-2007, 07:01 PM
I personally don't think he will leave this year unless he fells that Michigan is doomed next year, but he will probably be a late 1st rounder and could jump up to a top 15 guy with 1 more year

has he ever played DE?

P-L
09-20-2007, 07:04 PM
I personally don't think he will leave this year unless he fells that Michigan is doomed next year, but he will probably be a late 1st rounder and could jump up to a top 15 guy with 1 more year

has he ever played DE?
He's a 5th year senior, so he has to leave this year. Also, he lines up at DE frequently on 3rd and long.

fischbowl
09-20-2007, 07:05 PM
I personally don't think he will leave this year unless he fells that Michigan is doomed next year, but he will probably be a late 1st rounder and could jump up to a top 15 guy with 1 more year

has he ever played DE?

Fenikz, Crable is a senior.

LionSmack
09-20-2007, 07:09 PM
I think fenikz is nuts. I think Crable lacks size and power for DE and lacks agility and speed for OLB. Obviously he projects best as a 3-4 rush backer, but I don't think he's going to grade out as a 1st rounder at that position. Compare him to Lamarr Woodley, the only thing he has on Woodley is three inches' height. In production, experience, leadership and pass-rushing ability, Woodley was far superior.

I think Crable is a second-rounder at best, probably lower.

Scotty D
09-20-2007, 07:14 PM
Miami in the second round!

fenikz
09-20-2007, 07:24 PM
i didn't think he was a senior, so i guess late 1st - early 2nd

Don Vito
09-20-2007, 07:34 PM
I believe Crable is special because of veratility. In a 4-3 he could play all 3 LB spots, as well as both outside spots in the 3-4. He has amazing skills and athleticism for a man of his size, but he is probably a late 1st guy at best right now.

D-Unit
09-20-2007, 07:37 PM
His timed speed will determine everything.

Man_Of_Steel
09-20-2007, 07:56 PM
Mid-second rounder, too many question marks to warrent a first although his production speaks for itself.

Michigan
09-20-2007, 07:57 PM
His timed speed will determine everything.

He's in good shape then. He's the fastest guy on the field on our d, including d-backs >: (. However, he sucks in run support and is inconsistent at tackling. In my eyes he should play 3-4 olb and nothing else. He'd be pretty decent at it though. 2-3rd rounder.

phunnypharm
09-21-2007, 08:33 AM
I believe Crable is special because of veratility. In a 4-3 he could play all 3 LB spots, as well as both outside spots in the 3-4. He has amazing skills and athleticism for a man of his size, but he is probably a late 1st guy at best right now.

Crable lacks the bulk and functional strength (leverage) to play MLB and isn't good enough in coverage to play WLB.

He is either a Sam in a 4-3 defense.....or a 3-4 OLB.

goblue8888
09-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Freak, will be a much better pro than woodley ever will be.

Mr. Stiller
09-21-2007, 11:05 AM
I don't understand Why Crable can't play Buck in a 3-4.

Man_Of_Steel
09-21-2007, 11:18 AM
I don't understand Why Crable can't play Buck in a 3-4.

I debated this with you in the Steelers forum so hopefully others aside from me answer this. Not only would MLB be a bad fit, it would be his worst fit. He is versatile in the fact that he can play DE/OLB, but he will never play MLB in this lifetime. One of his best attributes is his pass rushing, your taking that away. He lacks the bulk and already is incosistant tackling, usually dosent take a good pad level. Also run support is one of his weaker points. So my question to you is why? Why do you think he would make a good MLB, I cant think of one reason.

Sniper
09-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Freak, will be a much better pro than woodley ever will be.

No Michigan shall ever speak ill of LaMarr Woodley....he is a man-beast.

Man_Of_Steel
09-21-2007, 11:32 AM
No Michigan shall ever speak ill of LaMarr Woodley....he is a man-beast.

I agree, in limited action this season he has stood out and made plays.

Mr. Stiller
09-21-2007, 11:46 AM
I debated this with you in the Steelers forum so hopefully others aside from me answer this. Not only would MLB be a bad fit, it would be his worst fit. He is versatile in the fact that he can play DE/OLB, but he will never play MLB in this lifetime. One of his best attributes is his pass rushing, your taking that away. He lacks the bulk and already is incosistant tackling, usually dosent take a good pad level. Also run support is one of his weaker points. So my question to you is why? Why do you think he would make a good MLB, I cant think of one reason.

Watching him last year he seemed to play the run well.

In a 3-4 he can still utilize the pass rush. Farrior and Foote do for us.

ironman4579
09-29-2007, 03:31 PM
After today's game:

5 games, 37 tackles, 14 TFL's, 4.5 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR.

D-Unit
09-29-2007, 03:34 PM
After today's game:

5 games, 37 tackles, 14 TFL's, 4 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR.
Beastly. I noted in my mock yesterday that he'll end up being the best 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft. I really like his ability.

ironman4579
09-29-2007, 03:40 PM
As much as I like Crable(my favorite defensive player on Michigan) I do feel that I should also point out that 11.5 TFL and I think 3 of the sacks came against, App State, Notre Dame, and Northwestern.

Borat
09-29-2007, 03:44 PM
I can't wait to see his workout numbers. He is a very intriguing prospect.

PACKmanN
09-29-2007, 04:13 PM
Could he be benefiting with the poor defense? I mean he could be gathering up his stats and all.

Sniper
09-30-2007, 11:35 AM
Crable yesterday...10 tackles, 5 TFL,1 sack, 1 FF. He's quite excellent.

ironman4579
09-30-2007, 12:32 PM
Could he be benefiting with the poor defense? I mean he could be gathering up his stats and all.

I don't think so, just because there actually are a couple other good players in the front 7 with Terrance Taylor and Brandon Graham. This is actually the type of year I expected from him in his final season.

goblue8888
09-30-2007, 02:33 PM
I can't wait to see his workout numbers. He is a very intriguing prospect.

Expect his work out numbers to be off the charts to.

darnik44two
09-30-2007, 02:35 PM
Mid 3rd to early 4th round due to some deep talent at OLB/tweener position in this draft class if some of the underclassmen come out.

ironman4579
09-30-2007, 02:42 PM
Mid 3rd to early 4th round due to some deep talent at OLB/tweener position in this draft class if some of the underclassmen come out.

Completely disagree with you there. I think he could work his way all the way into the first round potentially. Although, he could go in the 3rd or 4th as well. But I think his ceiling is much higher than the 3rd round.

Michigan
09-30-2007, 02:44 PM
Mid 3rd to early 4th round due to some deep talent at OLB/tweener position in this draft class if some of the underclassmen come out.

You won't be saying that once you see Crable's combine numbers. He could easily break 4.55

Sniper
09-30-2007, 02:46 PM
You won't be saying that once you see Crable's combine numbers. He could easily break 4.55

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that happen. The guy's a freak. His versatility is nice to have too.

HoopsDemon12
09-30-2007, 02:59 PM
I love this guy... i know when i imprted draft classes in madden i always took him... just had to add that

Xiomera
09-30-2007, 07:52 PM
Even if Crable had 100 sacks this year, I would still hate him for that late hit-out of bounds penalty that basically cost Michigan the game against OSU last year.

WMD
09-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Even if Crable had 100 sacks this year, I would still hate him for that late hit-out of bounds penalty that basically cost Michigan the game against OSU last year.

Not as much as I hate Tyler Ecker.. but.. point taken.

Michigan
09-30-2007, 08:44 PM
Even if Crable had 100 sacks this year, I would still hate him for that late hit-out of bounds penalty that basically cost Michigan the game against OSU last year.

Fringe hit to the helmet penalty, not a late hit. Smith wasn't even OOB when Crable got to him.

Green Bay Scat
09-30-2007, 08:52 PM
man we got a lot of homers from michigan on this site....

Xiomera
09-30-2007, 09:07 PM
Not as much as I hate Tyler Ecker.. but.. point taken.

Ecker is #2 on my list. Lateral to BREASTON! AHHH!


Fringe hit to the helmet penalty, not a late hit. Smith wasn't even OOB when Crable got to him.


It was a questionable call, but dumb of him nonetheless.

Vikes99ej
09-30-2007, 09:31 PM
man we got a lot of homers from michigan on this site....

It's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

WMD
09-30-2007, 11:45 PM
Ecker is #2 on my list. Lateral to BREASTON! AHHH!

One of the worst moments of my life.

SenorGato
10-01-2007, 01:35 AM
Crable's upside is that of a Jason Taylor. He's got a very, very similar skill set and body type.

I don't know if his work ethic and drive is as good as Taylors, but he has that kind of potential.

He definitely would do well in a 3-4 with a big D-line.

ironman4579
10-06-2007, 02:30 PM
After today's game:

5 games, 37 tackles, 14 TFL's, 4.5 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR.

Crable update

Today-6 tackles, 2 TFL's

Season

6 games, 43 tackles, 16 TFL's, 4.5 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR

ironman4579
10-14-2007, 05:12 AM
Crable today vs Purdue:

4 tackles, 2 TFL's, 1 sack

Season

7 games, 47 tackles, 18 TFL's, 5.5 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR

Xiomera
10-14-2007, 07:56 AM
Crable today vs Purdue:

4 tackles, 2 TFL's, 1 sack

Season

7 games, 47 tackles, 18 TFL's, 5.5 sacks, 1 BrUp, 2 FF's, 1 FR

I think more important than all those stats is the fact that he is a real team leader.

ironman4579
10-14-2007, 02:05 PM
I think more important than all those stats is the fact that he is a real team leader.

You're still upset about the the Penalty aren't you?(that's what I call it, the Penalty). Me too, but he is having a(statistically) beastly year.

Sniper
10-14-2007, 02:07 PM
You're still upset about the the Penalty aren't you?(that's what I call it, the Penalty). Me too, but he is having a(statistically) beastly year.

Was it necessary to bring up the Penalty? Or his missed assignment vs. ASU?

ironman4579
10-14-2007, 02:10 PM
Hey, dammit! You guys are ruining it! My man crush on Crable and Mike Hart knows no bounds. On a side note, Crable is now only 4 TFL's away from breaking Michigan's single season TFL record, set by Larry Foote.

Sniper
10-14-2007, 03:07 PM
Hey, dammit! You guys are ruining it! My man crush on Crable and Mike Hart knows no bounds. On a side note, Crable is now only 4 TFL's away from breaking Michigan's single season TFL record, set by Larry Foote.

Pretty sure I got dibs on Mike. Thanks for trying though. I'm petitioning the NCAA for another year for him

ironman4579
10-14-2007, 03:13 PM
Pretty sure I got dibs on Mike. Thanks for trying though. I'm petitioning the NCAA for another year for him

I think every Michigan fan has dibs on Mike as a man crush. If a tree falls in the forest, did Mike juke it?

Sniper
10-14-2007, 03:33 PM
I think every Michigan fan has dibs on Mike as a man crush. If a tree falls in the forest, did Mike juke it?

Kinda. It got a piece of him behind the line of scrimmage and then he broke the tree in half, gaining 6 yards afterwards

ironman4579
10-14-2007, 03:36 PM
That tree must have come through the right side of the line, because you know Jake Long pancaked the entire forest on the other side.

Sniper
10-14-2007, 04:19 PM
That tree must have come through the right side of the line, because you know Jake Long pancaked the entire forest on the other side.

Clearly. That's a given. Our ninth string RG got beat to the inside. I love the quote in ESPN the Magazine this week "Long turned the entire left side of the field into a wasteland of flatbacked linebackers" haha.

draftguru151
10-15-2007, 01:56 PM
:eek:http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8352/supercrablemanry8.jpg

Xiomera
10-15-2007, 02:11 PM
:eek:http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8352/supercrablemanry8.jpg

Little known fact . . . the true Spider-Man is an African American football player at the Univeristy of Michigan.

D-Unit
10-15-2007, 02:20 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again... Crable will be the first hybrid DE/OLB taken in the draft.

Sniper
10-15-2007, 03:13 PM
:eek:http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8352/supercrablemanry8.jpg

Same number, different color and position next year ;)

But yes, Crable is nasty

ironman4579
10-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Another Crable update. First off, I thought he played quite well against Illinois. He lined up with his hand down as a DE alot it seemed. Also, I know the QB did get the corner(if you watched the game, you might remember the play), but Crable was step for step with him the whole way, and I don't think that guy's running a 4.6 40 by any means. Anyway, on with the numbers

Crable VS Illinois

6 tackles, 1.5 TFL's, 1 FF, 2 QBH

Season

8 games, 53 tackles, 19.5 TFL's, 5.5 sacks, 2 QBH, 3 FF's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp

SRogers92
10-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Beast.....

ironman4579
10-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Crable VS Minnesota

7 tackles, 2.5 TFL's, 2 sacks

Season

9 games, 60 tackles, 22 TFL's, 7.5 sacks, 2 QBH, 3 FF's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp

P-L
10-27-2007, 07:05 PM
I'm disappointed Crable isn't getting the hype he should. He's 6'5" 245 and runs a 4.60 40 (rumored 4.55). He plays at a top program and has ridiculous numbers. 22 TFL and 7.5 while splitting time between SLB and DE [on passing downs]. How many guys have 7.5 sacks while only playing DE 30%-40% of the time? I have him graded as a 1st Round pick, and I think more people should as well.

ironman4579
10-27-2007, 07:12 PM
I'm disappointed Crable isn't getting the hype he should. He's 6'5" 245 and runs a 4.60 40 (rumored 4.55). He plays at a top program and has ridiculous numbers. 22 TFL and 7.5 while splitting time between SLB and DE [on passing downs]. How many guys have 7.5 sacks while only playing DE 30%-40% of the time? I have him graded as a 1st Round pick, and I think more people should as well.

Well, clearly I have a man crush on Crable. But I really agree. I actually think he'll run a mid to low 4.5 time. Again, obviously I like him, and I'm definately biased on this one, but I think he's going to end up being a first round pick.

goblue8888
10-28-2007, 04:26 PM
I have a feeling that after he tears apart the combine people will say who is this kid and look at his tape and he will be one of the fastest risers in the draft.

Primetime21
10-28-2007, 04:36 PM
I have a feeling that after he tears apart the combine people will say who is this kid and look at his tape and he will be one of the fastest risers in the draft.

I think he will tear Ohio State up and show the nation his talent. That will be fun to watch Crable and Gholston in the same game.

ironman4579
10-28-2007, 05:45 PM
I wonder how many people realize that over the last 2 season, with 3 games plus a bowl game to go in this one(so what's that, like 22 games?) Crable has put up:

97 tackles, 33 TFL's, 13.5 sacks, 6 FF's, 4 PbUp's, 2 FR's

As PL said, for a guy that plays DE maybe 30%-40% of the time to have 33 TFL's and 13.5 sacks in like 22 games is insane.

etk
10-30-2007, 09:28 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again... Crable will be the first hybrid DE/OLB taken in the draft.

It's taken me a while but I'm starting to lean toward that opinion as well. He's most likely the fastest hybrid and best in coverage, and that could separate him from the pack of Groves, Gholston, Blake, etc.

goblue8888
11-03-2007, 06:47 PM
Today crable ran javon ringer down and many consider him a sub 4.4 guy.

P-L
11-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Today crable ran javon ringer down and many consider him a sub 4.4 guy.
That play was ridiculous.

ironman4579
11-03-2007, 06:50 PM
And he ran him down after being the one to make the first hit in the backfield on the far side of the field. He had to get up and basically come from behind the line of scrimmage all the way across the field to run down Ringer. I don't know, after watching that play Crable might actually be closer to a 4.5 than a 4.55 or 4.6.

etk
11-03-2007, 08:36 PM
Late in the game when he came off the edge and sacked MSU....wow. It wasn't a difficult sack but his athleticism is eye-popping.

ironman4579
11-04-2007, 01:44 AM
While Crable didn't have a very dominant game statistically, I thought he played quite well for most of the game. He also showed amazing athleticism on a couple plays, the aforementioned two plays, and a couple others. But he was somewhat screwed out of credit for even half of that sack and half a TFL. Anyway

Crable vs MSU

7 tackles, 0.5 TFL's(should have had at least 1 TFL and half a sack)

Season

10 games, 67 tackles, 22.5 TFL's, 7.5 sacks, 3 FF's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp, 2 QBH's

D-Unit
11-04-2007, 01:49 AM
I said it before and I'll say it again... Crable will be the first hybrid DE/OLB taken in the draft.
Any doubts yet???

ironman4579
11-04-2007, 02:06 AM
Any doubts yet???

I honestly think it's hilarious people are still putting him in the 3rd round or later in mock drafts. So underrated by most people on this site IMO.

Chaucer
11-04-2007, 02:17 AM
I would rate him as early 3rd rounder myself.

Michigan
11-04-2007, 06:28 AM
I honestly think it's hilarious people are still putting him in the 3rd round or later in mock drafts. So underrated by most people on this site IMO.

actually, third round isnt THAT unreasonable (especially for a 4-3 team). he still has those chicken legs, is an inconsistent tackler, and still doesn't take good angles against the run. with that said, I think a 3-4 team is gonna fall in love with his 6'5 250 4.50 and draft him in the late first / early 2nd

ironman4579
11-04-2007, 10:51 AM
actually, third round isnt THAT unreasonable (especially for a 4-3 team). he still has those chicken legs, is an inconsistent tackler, and still doesn't take good angles against the run. with that said, I think a 3-4 team is gonna fall in love with his 6'5 250 4.50 and draft him in the late first / early 2nd

Certainly it's not that unreasonable. But with his production over the past 2 seasons, especially this season, combined with his nice combination of size and great athleticism, and the fact I think his tackling and angles have been much improved this season, I really don't see him going outside of the first 2 rounds. Now of course that's just right at this moment. Obviously alot can happen between now and the draft, but I certainly feel he's moving up rather than sliding down or staying put.

draftguru151
11-05-2007, 01:03 PM
Watching the play again, I just realized Crable was actually the guy that hit Ringer in the backfield, and then got up and ran 70 yards downfield and caught him. Absolutely ridiculous.

TacticaLion
11-05-2007, 01:49 PM
Can anyone find a video of the Crable/Ringer play?

Xiomera
11-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Can anyone find a video of the Crable/Ringer play?

You tube doesn't appear to have it. I looked a couple times yesterday.

Big_Pete
11-05-2007, 04:15 PM
What are Crable's coverage skills like??

Could he play SLB or WLB in a 4-3?

TacticaLion
11-05-2007, 04:17 PM
You tube doesn't appear to have it. I looked a couple times yesterday.

Yeah... I looked for a while today but couldn't find anything.

Sad... I missed it.

bearsfan_51
11-05-2007, 04:22 PM
Any doubts yet???
Depends on how you define hybrid. Does this include guys like Harvey, Gholston, and Groves? In which case yes, I severely doubt that.

B-Dawk
11-05-2007, 05:14 PM
could he stand up in a 43 kind of like kiwi is doing in ny?

P-L
11-05-2007, 05:29 PM
could he stand up in a 43 kind of like kiwi is doing in ny?

He is Michigan's starting SLB right now. He only plays DE on passing downs. I think 3-4 OLB is his best bet. I can't see him ever being a full-time DE and keeping him at LB in the 4-3 would probably be wasting his talents.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-05-2007, 05:59 PM
He is Michigan's starting SLB right now. He only plays DE on passing downs. I think 3-4 OLB is his best bet. I can't see him ever being a full-time DE and keeping him at LB in the 4-3 would probably be wasting his talents.

I'm not quite sure how it would waste his talent. Players like Gholston and Groves are hybrids because they are built like defensive ends but have the athleticism to operate while standing up in a 3-4 (admittedly, Groves could probably do well in whatever scheme was presented). In Crable's case, he's definitely built like a linebacker, albeit one with a impressive pass rushing ability.

I think that Crable would operate fine in a 4-3. Hell, he might even have Julian Peterson type potential if a defense protected him in the right ways.

Babylon
11-05-2007, 06:17 PM
He would be in my top 50 and i assume be drafted between #25 and #50. Hard to project players that fit in with certain defenses whether it be DL or LBs. Like what i've seen of him and want to wait till the end of the season before we pencil him in anywhere.

P-L
11-05-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm not quite sure how it would waste his talent. Players like Gholston and Groves are hybrids because they are built like defensive ends but have the athleticism to operate while standing up in a 3-4 (admittedly, Groves could probably do well in whatever scheme was presented). In Crable's case, he's definitely built like a linebacker, albeit one with a impressive pass rushing ability.

I think that Crable would operate fine in a 4-3. Hell, he might even have Julian Peterson type potential if a defense protected him in the right ways.

Crable is a very good pass rusher with great athleticism. Putting him in a 4-3 would limit his ability to rush the passer. His biggest weakness is playing the run. As an OLB in the 3-4 he could still rush the passer and drop into coverage. A good 3-4 DL could help mask his deficiencies in the running game. Playing him in the 4-3 would essentially cause him to rush the passer less and play the run more. There is no doubt in my mind that he could effectively play in the 4-3, but I think the 3-4 suits his abilities better.

draftguru151
11-05-2007, 06:50 PM
If a 4-3 defense used him correctly it could work, like a Julian Peterson. That's who I see him most like. I don't think his 4-3 value is much lower than his 3-4 value. He has good range I think he would be fine as a 4-3 OLB.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-05-2007, 09:50 PM
Crable is a very good pass rusher with great athleticism. Putting him in a 4-3 would limit his ability to rush the passer. His biggest weakness is playing the run. As an OLB in the 3-4 he could still rush the passer and drop into coverage. A good 3-4 DL could help mask his deficiencies in the running game. Playing him in the 4-3 would essentially cause him to rush the passer less and play the run more. There is no doubt in my mind that he could effectively play in the 4-3, but I think the 3-4 suits his abilities better.

I don't really think it's all that easier to defend the run from the strongside 'backer spot in the 3-4 than it is in the 4-3, nor do I think that Crable necessarily needs to be full-time pass rusher. He's got the size and athleticism to do more than be a specialist.

ironman4579
11-09-2007, 11:03 AM
Not a great video, and not my favorite angle for it, but at about :15 seconds you can see the play with Crable and Ringer. You can see Crable make the initial grab, spinning Ringer around, then flash into the screen at the end to make the play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wqO4VQiorM

ironman4579
11-10-2007, 04:28 PM
First off, the entire Michigan defense had a bad game today, let's get that out of the way. Crable took a couple of personal foul penalties(although I think one was pretty bogus) and didn't play really wellat all IMO. Anyway, on with the numbers.

Crable vs Wisconsin

7 tackles, 1.5 TFL's

Season

11 games, 74 tackles, 24 TFL's, 7.5 sacks, 3 FF's, 2 QBH's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp

TacticaLion
11-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Not a great video, and not my favorite angle for it, but at about :15 seconds you can see the play with Crable and Ringer. You can see Crable make the initial grab, spinning Ringer around, then flash into the screen at the end to make the play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wqO4VQiorM

Props on the find... appreciate it.

Incredible play, by the way. A thing of beauty.

ironman4579
11-17-2007, 03:31 PM
So despite the loss, the defense played quite well today, and Crable was right there. Crable's final stats for the game and overall for the regular season:

Crable vs Ohio State

10 tackles, 2.5 TFL's, 1 FF

Season

12 games, 84 tackles, 26.5 TFL's, 7.5 sacks, 3 QBH, 4 FF's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp.

TacticaLion
11-17-2007, 10:02 PM
I read an artice about Crable in the Sporting News. It said how he was stiff and lacked instincts... and was projected to be a 6th-7th round pick (and could go undrafted).

Was a bit shocked.

Hines
11-17-2007, 10:19 PM
i really like him...let the steelers get him in the second so we can draft two michigan linebackers in the past two years and let them rush the passer together like they did last year

Xiomera
11-18-2007, 09:25 AM
I read an artice about Crable in the Sporting News. It said how he was stiff and lacked instincts... and was projected to be a 6th-7th round pick (and could go undrafted).

Was a bit shocked.

Sporting news is quite possibly the worst source for any NFL draft related stuff. Year after year they are terrible.

DoWnThEfiElD
11-18-2007, 12:18 PM
I have a feeling after the combine Crable will be really hyped. I like him but i have a feeling he may be a workout guy too.

Sniper
11-18-2007, 12:21 PM
I have a feeling after the combine Crable will be really hyped. I like him but i have a feeling he may be a workout guy too.

Well he will be, but he had really good production this season too. I mean, as of right now, he's #2 in TFL in the country. He's actually got the same amount of TFLs as Anthony Spencer of Purdue had last year, and Spencer was a full-time DE.

ironman4579
11-18-2007, 12:24 PM
I just think it's crazy that he's second in the country in TFL's, and he only plays DE 30-40% of the time. And it's not like that's all he does, the guy has 84 tackles this season as well. I really think he's going to have a great combine.

draftguru151
11-18-2007, 04:01 PM
He still plays on the line a majority of the time even if his hand isn't down.

ironman4579
01-20-2008, 04:42 PM
My computer and internet have been screwed for awhile, so I haven't been able to post, let alone update any of the threads I've been keeping an eye on. Anywaym I'll start with the the stats(even though Scott has the final numbers up anyway)

Crable vs Florida

6 tackles, 2 TFL's, 2 QH's

Season

90 tackles, 28.5 TFL's, 7.5 sacks, 4 QBH's, 4 FF's, 1 FR, 1 BrUp


I'd also like to post his numbers over the last 2 seasons as well

127 tackles, 39.5 TFL's, 13.5 sacks, 7 FF's, 2 FR's, 4 BrUp's

Now, I'm probably the biggest Crable fan around. I think he had a sensational senior year that really pushed him up draft boards, and if he has the combine I think he's capable of, I think he could rise as high as the very end of the first. That said, I agree with most of Scott's scouting report. I think he has a better motor than Scott gives him credit for, but the other weaknesses are right on IMO. I'd also add that he's not a great tackler as well. Despite all that, I think he'll be a very fast rising prospect following the combine/senior bowl etc.

Jakey
01-20-2008, 06:11 PM
I really like Crable (being a Michigan fan) but i dnt think he is stout enough to play 3-4 OLB...i like the comparison of him and Julian Peterson, i think he would be best suited as a strong side linebacker in a 4-3 scheme.

TACKLE
01-20-2008, 11:11 PM
Personally I think he could be a really good 4-3 RDE. If he can put on 10lbs he would be 6'5 255, 4.6-4.5 speed, great production (90tkls, 28.5 tfl, 7.5 sacks) and gets a great jump off the ball. I don't see Harvey being that superior to Crable as a player or a prospect. He needs to develop more pass rush moves and has mental lapses from time to time but his is still a very good player. In my eyes he is a 1st round talent. I think that NFL teams are leaning towards smaller, more athletic DE's. The fact that he played SLB in college can only help his stock as he is capable in coverage and show his versatility. Although I think he's best suited as a 3-4 DE/OLB I think he could be a very good 4-3 DE.

HellonEarth84
01-31-2009, 12:50 AM
Any one else think Crable will have a break out season in 09-10 like Woodley did this year?

Sveen
01-31-2009, 04:16 AM
Why bring this thread back up in the draft forum?

regoob2
01-31-2009, 11:46 AM
Why bring this thread back up in the draft forum?It's better than making an entire new thread.

SenorGato
01-31-2009, 06:02 PM
I didn't see or hear about Crable as much as I heard about Woodley as a rookie, but my guess is that he'll end up being a good LBer for the Pats. He was a good player for Michigan after all.

ironman4579
01-31-2009, 08:53 PM
I didn't see or hear about Crable as much as I heard about Woodley as a rookie, but my guess is that he'll end up being a good LBer for the Pats. He was a good player for Michigan after all.

He had a good pre season, but was on IR for basically the whole season.