***new Official Boxing Thread***

[Rob S]

114-114, 116-112, 115-113 Pacquiao. I feel like Marquez should have won or gotten the draw but boxing is wayyyyy fixed.

God damnit. That was a ridiculously close fight and insanely tough to score. **** off. Seriously, **** off. I usually like your posts, but anyone who says either party clearly won/certainly deserves a draw doesn't know boxing. As Dan Rafael said repeatedly, these guys are made for each other. Close fight, fair decision, it could have gone either way. Boxing aint fixed, and if it is, this is a very, very ****** example you chose to illustrate your point.

[Rob S]

The win was absolutely justified. Close fight and a fight Marquez deserved to win but he has no one to blame but himself. If you are a challenger you have to win the title, he did nothing in the end to win the title, he played to protect his lead and got nipped at the buzzer. For a guy who has been on the wrong end of scoring 2 previous times vs Pacman for him to not show any sort of urgency to win the fight is completely his fault. 1 time is a fluke, 2 times, is luck, 3 times is stupidity. For a challenger to think he won the fight but fighting even going into the 12th is completely foolish much less against a name like Pacman. Anyways compustrike doesn't lie, Pacman landed 40 more punches, and landed more power shots, he's the champ Marquez fought to position himself to win, but didn't take the step to actually win.

One of my main points. How the **** does he take the 12th off. Seriously, wtf? I know Beristain told you you were winning, but don't you think you should press....you gotta know its ridiculously close. STRIP knows what he is talking about, thank God you're here. We need MOTH in here as well.

[Brodeur]

The win was absolutely justified. Close fight and a fight Marquez deserved to win but he has no one to blame but himself. If you are a challenger you have to win the title, he did nothing in the end to win the title, he played to protect his lead and got nipped at the buzzer. For a guy who has been on the wrong end of scoring 2 previous times vs Pacman for him to not show any sort of urgency to win the fight is completely his fault. 1 time is a fluke, 2 times, is luck, 3 times is stupidity. For a challenger to think he won the fight but fighting even going into the 12th is completely foolish much less against a name like Pacman. Anyways compustrike doesn't lie, Pacman landed 40 more punches, and landed more power shots, he's the champ Marquez fought to position himself to win, but didn't take the step to actually win.

Someone apparently told Marquez that he was leading going into the last round, or so I hear. Don't think that's a wise strategy.

[Rob S]

Someone apparently told Marquez that he was leading going into the last round, or so I hear. Don't think that's a wise strategy.

Well, it all depends. Nacho certainly told him he was winning. I can't say whether that was right or wrong because I don't know what JMM responds to/needs in a corner. Nacho is one of the best trainers of all time and I'll be damned if I go against him here. Thing is, even if Nacho told JMM that he was winning, he never said to just survive the 12th and you will win. Telling a fighter he is wining is entirely different than telling him that its in the bag. JMM can only blame JMM for taking off the 12th.

[raiderz4life]

Prime example...De La Hoya vs Tito Trinidad. Oscar was winning the whole fight then decides to take it easy and cruise. What happened? He lost....same deal with Marquez...decided to fall back and defend. Always a recipe for disaster.

[Rob S]

Prime example...De La Hoya vs Tito Trinidad. Oscar was winning the whole fight then decides to take it easy and cruise. What happened? He lost....same deal with Marquez...decided to fall back and defend. Always a recipe for disaster.

Well, not the same thing really. I mean, I think DLH was clearly winning that fight and got shafted. This fight was close. The DLH-Trinidad decision stunk. I see your overall point (don't take anything for granted, its a fight so ******* fight, etc.), but there is a time in a fight where it pays to stay the hell away from a huge puncher even if it means dropping rounds. I really do feel that Oscar was winning the fight handily. JMM was certainly not. Different situations, same overall concept I guess, but overall I think DLH was fighting smart w/ a little ***** mixed in and JMM was fighting absolutely stupidly.

[JRTPlaya21]

God damnit. That was a ridiculously close fight and insanely tough to score. **** off. Seriously, **** off. I usually like your posts, but anyone who says either party clearly won/certainly deserves a draw doesn't know boxing. As Dan Rafael said repeatedly, these guys are made for each other. Close fight, fair decision, it could have gone either way. Boxing aint fixed, and if it is, this is a very, very ****** example you chose to illustrate your point.

Lol yeah you are right. I wanted Pacman to win honestly. Boxing isn't my expertice. I'm personally more into MMA. No part 4 please. Next up better be Floyd or I could give a damn. And I guess I would say fixed in a sense that hmmm if we allow this close fight to go to Marquez and not Pacman then that megafight doesn't go down and there goes our sports interest level down the drain.

[soybean]

I have a lot of filipino and mexican friends and this whole fight has turned into a race war haha.

I didn't watch the fight but max kellerman said if you want to keep it consistent with the scoring from the previous two fights then the result of this fight pac-marquez three should have been a draw.

[Rob S]

What has two thumbs and is going to see Cotto-Marg live tomorrow? This guy.

[SuperMcgee]

I very nearly went. My brother and some of our friends are going, but I have projects/finals/no money and couldn't make the trip. Enjoy it.

[Nalej]

What has two thumbs and is going to see Cotto-Marg live tomorrow? This guy.

Jealous. I'll be watching!

[Rob S]

Cotto is my favorite fighter, its at MSG, and this is the best card of the year. All the stars aligned for this one! Honestly, I am expecting the best atmosphere for any live sporting event I have ever attended. It's going to be absolutely insane.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

What time is the actual fight supposed to go down? I've got a **** ton to do, but will definitely break to watch the fight online.

[MetSox17]

What time is the actual fight supposed to go down? I've got a **** ton to do, but will definitely break to watch the fight online.

This x100.

[raiderz4life]

I always find it hilarious how slow Margarito is

[Nalej]

Cotto's my favorite boxer as well. Loved the fight.
Cotto gave him the business. Footwork was flawless and combos were relentless.
I've never seen the smaller boxer put the bigger one against the ropes as a strategy.
I would have liked the fight to have gone a bit longer but am completely okay with the stopage.

[Rob S]

Cotto's my favorite boxer as well. Loved the fight.
Cotto gave him the business. Footwork was flawless and combos were relentless.
I've never seen the smaller boxer put the bigger one against the ropes as a strategy.
I would have liked the fight to have gone a bit longer but am completely okay with the stopage.

Cotto was absolutely brilliant and the atmosphere at MSG was simply off the charts. Best live sporting event I've ever been to by far. If you are a big Cotto fan and he fight again at the Garden you really should try to see it live. It's just an awesome experience.

[Rob S]

Wow! Great ******* fight. Shame on the ref for those awful point deductions, but I can't wait for the rematch! I feel great for Peterson right now and awful for Khan.

[LTgiants]

Ya that ref was a schmohawk.

[Rob S]

I have never felt so good for a guy who won in such a ****** up way.

[AntoinCD]

I have never felt so good for a guy who won in such a ****** up way.

I find it hard to have any sympathy for Khan. He is far too cocky for his own good. If that fight was in England or Vegas or NY then Khan wins. But the fact that Khan offered to fight Peterson in his own backyard tells you how over confident he was for the fight.

[OSUGiants17]

Wow
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/feb/19/david-haye-dereck-chisora-brawl

[AntoinCD]

Chisora is an idiot. Saying he's gonna shoot David Haye. But Haye is a disgrace of a person. Gets annihilated by Klitscho, blames his toe, retires and then cries when the two best fighters in the world don't have any interest in fighting him. So he shows up at a press conference and does this, and then runs away. Joke!!!

[UKfan]

Absolute embarrassment for British boxing

[Brodeur]

So there's a fight going here, some have it tied going into the championship round.

[bantx]

Come on Cotto!

[raiderz4life]

I WAS hoping cotto would win but who ******* knows..boxing is deep throating maywaether

[Brodeur]

Floyd is the best heel ever.

[raiderz4life]

goure a fhhel fo away brody

[Brodeur]

Shut the **** up Raiderz and learn to type when drunk. Glad Floyd won this fight though, and he actually deserved to win this unlike Manny's last fight.

[raiderz4life]

Shut the **** up Raiderz and learn to type when drunk. Glad Floyd won this fight though, and he actually deserved to win this unlike Manny's last fight.

ey fack you boody!!!

I know how to typen when I am drunk...you don;t know how to type when I'm drunk and Manny is better than Floyd so suck it!!!

[SickwithIt1010]

Great fight, Floyd is just too good.

Hopefully the 2 big dogs pull their heads out of their asses and decide to fight. Im just worried by the time they decide to do it there both gonna be washed up.

[raiderz4life]

i5t not gon happen soon...if floyd and pacman fight and one loses like its inevitably gonna happen then bocing will lose its appeal and die

[Brodeur]

Yes it will. They know they have to make the most amount of money possible, so they'll do it either in the fall or next year at the latest. It must be done.

[SickwithIt1010]

Mayweather will make sure to have at least one fight after he gets out before he agrees to it. I really hope it goes down.

[raiderz4life]

damn brodu no need to b so hostile foo

[Brodeur]

damn brodu no need to b so hostile foo

Step away from the computer, and either hang out with people or watch something or sleep. You + drunk + typing = bad idea.

[Brodeur]

Sad wank........I AM ******* TALKING, DO NOT ******* INTERRUPT ME WITH YOUR GIBBERISH. YOU WAIT PATIENTLY, OR I WILL FORCE YOU TO GO BACK TO MASTURBATING WITH TEARS RUNNING DOWN YOUR ******* FACE?

IS THAT WHAT GETS YOU OFF *****? TEARS RUNNING DOWN AND HITTING YOUR DICK?

[raiderz4life]

Lmfao pissed off Brody is da besg

[fenikz]

honestly floyd would beat manny, styles make fights and pacquio has no chance vs a counter boxer

[Rob S]

Mayweather is great. We all know this and we all know Pac-Floyd has to happen for boxing history.

That said, props to Miguel ******* Cotto. He is everything that is right about boxing and life in general. A class act all the way, busts his ass to learn English and is 100% fluent now, most consistently exciting fighter in the biz, and he got Floyd Mayweather to actually fight. Cotto is the ******* man.

[Rob S]

honestly floyd would beat manny, styles make fights and pacquio has no chance vs a counter boxer

I tend to agree.....the story of the fight is gonna be if Pac can apply pressure....I think he is too small. Still though, this absolutely has to happen for boxing. We have to see it. Plus, Pac is better all time until Floyd beats him or wins title in a couple more weight divisions, so that should be motivation enough.

[Rob S]

Also, fwiw, I am 100% convinced that Margarito would have had an excellent chance to stop Floyd had Floyd not ducked him 5 years ago. Round 8 would have been every round with Tony, but there would have been more punches. Mayweather would have had a seriously rough time of it and I would have LOVED to see that fight. Instead, we got Sharmba Mitchell!

**Obviously the huge cavaet here is the hand wraps, but just take that out of the equation and look at the fight from the perspective of how Margo was fighting in 2007**

[thefalconer]

Pacquiao Bradley 24/7

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