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Moses
10-04-2007, 08:27 PM
Just a fun little exercise that anybody is free to take part in. Put together a team of any current NFL players as if you were the owner of an expansion franchise. You're obviously in it for both the short and long term. Here is my team:

Offence:

QB: Vince Young
Has all the tools to become an elite quarterback in this league and is already very good. Has great size and mobility which is a big plus for me. Great intangibles and a proven winner.

RB: Adrian Peterson
Beast. Do it all runningback who can handle 30 touches a game if necessary. Has speed, power, elusiveness, vision, and a great attitude for the position. Will be a star in the league for a long time.

WR: Larry Fitzgerald
Young receiver with a ton of experience already and one of those guys who will catch anything you toss at him. Playmaker in every sense of the word and should be good for 1000+ yards every year.

WR: Dwayne Bowe
Rookie who has played sensationally thus far. Physical and the type of player every coach wants. Should be a star for many years in this league.

WR: Calvin Johnson
Physical specimen with the production to back up his impressive triangle numbers. Has already shown great ability in his rookie season and should continue to get better as he learns the nuances of the position.

TE: Vernon Davis
Great blocker and one of the greatest physical specimens the NFL has ever seen. Great work ethic and should develop into a top-tier receiver with some refining of his technique.

LT: Michael Roos
Young left tackle who has shown flashes of brilliance and is already a very good player. Has Pro-Bowl potential and should be a dominant force for the better part of a decade.

LG: Logan Mankins
Touch, physical guard who rarely makes mistakes. Great technician with good physical ability to back it up. Can move around on pulls and really open up some lanes in the running game.

C: Nick Mangold
All-around center who has shown great leadership and will more than likely make multiple Pro-Bowls in his career. Makes all the right calls along the line and does a great job blocking.

RG: Shawn Andrews
Mountain of a man with great strength and surprising mobility. Already has a few years experience but is still very young. Type of player that will open gaping holes in the run game and neutralize huge defensive tackles.

RT: Jason Peters
Great athlete who has shown dominance at left tackle at a very young age. Should be an elite bookend for a decade. Dominant in both the pass and run game. Has the size and strength to play right tackle.

Defence:

DE: Osi Umenyiora
Great player who is already a top-tier defensive end and is still very young. Dominant against the pass and can really get after the run as well.

DT: Amobi Okoye
Rookie who has shown great promise. Youngest player in NFL history and has already proven to be a great penetrator. Makes plays in the backfield in both run and pass situations.

DT: Tommie Harris
Another explosive penetrator who makes a ton of plays in the backfield. Very young considering his experience in the league and a constant threat to knife into the backfield and ruin a play.

DE: Mario Williams
Amazing physical specimen who dominates in both the pass and run game. Huge presence along the defensive line who demands a double team every play but will still make plays.

SLB: A.J. Hawk
All-around linebacker who has big-time ability. Has the size, speed, and instincts to match up with backs and tight ends in the pass game and is a terror for opposing rushing attacks.

MLB: Patrick Willis
Rookie playmaker who flies to the ball and lays the lumber. Can be a thumper on the inside or use his amazing athleticism to play the pass or run to the sidelines and make a play.

WLB: Ernie Sims
Young, explosive playmaker who is always around the ball. Hard to block due to his athleticism he is a threat to knife into holes and drop ballcarriers for a loss.

CB: Leon Hall
Gamer who has shown the ability to make big-plays as well as solid coverage ability. Should continue to improve and it would be no surprise to see him earn a few Pro-Bowl births.

CB: Richard Marshall
Tough, physical cornerback who will make plays in both the run and pass game. Great mentality and one of those players who rises to a big challenge.

FS: Sean Taylor
Best physical specimen to ever play the safety position and an attitude that is perfect for what he is. Grim reaper who punishes every offensive player he comes across. Extremely versatile and allows for a ton of flexibility when drawing up defensive schemes.

SS: LaRon Landry
Big-hitter with great range who is always around the play. Ballhawks against the pass and makes quarterbacks think twice about throwing deep. Can come up into the box and act like another linebacker thanks to his great size.

yourfavestoner
10-04-2007, 08:53 PM
That'd be an awfully expensive team to field.

Man_Of_Steel
10-04-2007, 08:55 PM
No cap no realism lol.

EdReedUnstoppable
10-04-2007, 08:56 PM
QB: Vince Young
RB: Willie Parker
FB: Lawrence Vickers
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Ben Watson
OT: Jared Gaither
OG: Alan Faneca
C: Olin Kreutz
OG: Shawn Andrews
OT: Jammal Brown

4-3

DE: Osi Umenyiora
DT: Haloti Ngata
DT: Kevin Williams
DE: Mario Williams
OLB: Derrick Johnson
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: Manny Lawson
CB: Antoine Winfield
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Dunta Robinson


3-4

DE: Richard Seymour
DT: Vince Wilfork
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Shawne Merriman
MLB: Ray Lewis
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson
OLB: Manny Lawson
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Adrian Wilson
CB: Dunta Robinson

skinzzfan25
10-04-2007, 09:21 PM
Area-51: Patrolling secondaries near you ;)

Bills2083
10-04-2007, 10:01 PM
QB: Vince Young
RB: Adrian Peterson
RB: Marshawn Lynch (2 RB system :) )
WR: Calvin Johnson
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
LT: Jason Peters
LG: Derrick Dockery
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeil

LE: Osi Umenyiora (and not just because of his last game)
DT: Kevin Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
RE: Mario Williams
OLB: Paul Posluszny
MLB: Patrick Willis
OLB: Shawne Merriman
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
FS: Bob Sanders
SS: LaRon Landry
CB: Champ Bailey

K: Mason Crosby
P: Brian Moorman

KR: Devin Hester
PR: Roscoe Parrish

CannedToast
10-04-2007, 10:13 PM
your teams are largely too young. i don't believe for a second that a team with that much youth could compete in the short term or be held together long enough in the long term.

ERU had Ray-Ray... he'll hold whatever the hell he wants together.

The Dynasty
10-04-2007, 10:50 PM
For LT, I never saw McNeil. I think he'd be a good choice for left tackle and he is young.

Caddy
10-04-2007, 10:55 PM
QB: Tom Brady
RB: Steven Jackson
FB: Mike Karney
WR: Santonio Holmes
WR: Reggie Wayne
TE: Chris Cooley
LT: Jamaal Brown
LG: Arron Sears
C: Olin Kreutz
RG: Davin Joseph
RT: Marcus McNeil

LE: Julius Peppers
DT: Kevin Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
RE: Dwight Freeney
OLB: Cato June
MLB: Demeco Ryans
OLB: Lance Briggs
CB: Ronde Barber
FS: Bob Sanders
SS: Adrian Wilson
CB: Champ Bailey

K: Adam Vinatieri
P: Brian Moorman

KR: Devin Hester

Vikes99ej
10-04-2007, 10:57 PM
For LT, I never saw McNeil. I think he'd be a good choice for left tackle and he is young.

He also has a back condition that could end his career at any moment.

The Dynasty
10-04-2007, 11:00 PM
He also has a back condition that could end his career at any moment.

So that saying is true, We learn something new everyday. Well then nevermind i said that.

PackerLegend
10-04-2007, 11:01 PM
A ton of the people that have been said would never have been gotten in an Expansion team.

darnik44two
10-04-2007, 11:09 PM
I'd just take the Patriots roster

Donno
10-04-2007, 11:20 PM
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - LaDainian Tomlinson
WR - Steve Smith
WR - Chad Johnson
WR - Marvin Harrison
TE - Antonio Gates
LT - Jamaal Brown
LG - Robert Gallery
C - Olin Kruetz
RG - Leonard Davis
RT - Marcus McNeill

4-3

LE - Julius Peppers
DT - Tommie Harris
DT - Haloti Ngata
RE - Dwight Freeney
LOLB - Shawn Merriman
MLB - Brian Urlacher
ROLB - Ray Lewis
CB - Champ Bailey
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
CB - Asante Samuel

7-11
10-04-2007, 11:31 PM
OLB: Cato June


There is no way in the world that that is a seriosu statement. If he makes an effective tackle this year let me know

TitanAddict
10-05-2007, 12:01 AM
QB: Vince Young !!!!!!!!!!!!!
RB: Adrian Peterson
FB: Sgt. Ahmard Hall, U.S. Marines -- Semper fi !!!
TE: Antonio Gates
WR: Calvin Johnson
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Marvin Harrison (the tutor)
LT: Michael Roos
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeill

DE: Julius Peppers
DT: Albert Haynesworth
DT: Haloti Ngata
DE: Mario Williams
WLB: Keith Bulluck
MLB: Patrick Willis
SLB: A.J. Hawk
FS: Sean Taylor
SS: Michael Huff
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Pacman Jones (post-suspension)

K: Mason Crosby
P: Matt McBriar

KR: Devin Hester
PR: Pacman Jones

The cool thing about this thread is there is no wrong answer :) I'll have to disagree with NJX9 and go ahead and say that any of the above teams would kick ass.

VoteLynnSwan
10-05-2007, 12:41 AM
QB: Vince Young !!!!!!!!!!!!!
RB: Adrian Peterson
FB: Sgt. Ahmard Hall, U.S. Marines -- Semper fi !!!
TE: Antonio Gates
WR: Calvin Johnson
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Marvin Harrison (the tutor)
LT: Michael Roos
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeill

DE: Julius Peppers
DT: Albert Haynesworth
DT: Haloti Ngata
DE: Mario Williams
WLB: Keith Bulluck
MLB: Patrick Willis
SLB: A.J. Hawk
FS: Sean Taylor
SS: Michael Huff
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Pacman Jones (post-suspension)

K: Mason Crosby
P: Matt McBriar

KR: Devin Hester
PR: Pacman Jones

The cool thing about this thread is there is no wrong answer :) I'll have to disagree with NJX9 and go ahead and say that any of the above teams would kick ass.

Hester is a better punt returner than Jones... plus he isn't an off the field distraction.

TitanAddict
10-05-2007, 12:52 AM
Hester is a better punt returner than Jones... plus he isn't an off the field distraction.

No, this is post-suspension Pacman. Post-suspension Pacman makes it rain on inner-city schools and they use his dolla' bills to buy books and computers and glue sticks.

As for Devin Hester, he's great. He's my kickoff returner, though. Pac is a lot more fun to watch when he returns punts. I was reading some article (not that it means anything) that mentioned that a lot of scouts think Pacman is the best return man in the league, not Devin Hester. I don't think you can go wrong either way.

Caddy
10-05-2007, 03:12 AM
There is no way in the world that that is a seriosu statement. If he makes an effective tackle this year let me know

Obviously you haven't seen him play this year.

And you also don't know which defensive scheme I intend to play. Cato June is one of the best, if not the best coverage linebacker in the NFL. Maybe you should have asked which defensive scheme I want to use.

fenikz
10-05-2007, 03:49 AM
QB: VY
RB: AD
WR: Quan
WR: Fitz
WR: CJ
TE: Gates
TE: Winslow
LT: Roos
LG: Mankins
C: Kruetz
RG: Andrews
RT: L. Brown

3-4
DE: Dockett
NT: J. Williams
DE: T. Harris
OLB: Merriman
ILB: Willis
ILB: Hawk
OLB: Ware
CB: Samuel
SS: A Dub
FS: Reed
CB: Bailey
NB: Mathis

PR/KR Hester

Don Vito
10-05-2007, 04:08 AM
QB Vince Young
RB LaDanian Tomlison
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Roy Williams
WR Calvin Johnson
TE Antonio Gates
LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson
LG Logan Mankins
C Nick Mangold
RG Shawn Andrews
RT Shane Olivea

LE Julius Peppers
NT Vince Wilfork
UT Tommie Harris
RE Mario Williams
SLB DJ Williams (where he belongs)
MLB Patrick Willis
WLB Ernie Sims
CB Champ Bailey
FS Sean Taylor
SS Kerry Rhodes
CB Nate Clements

CannedToast
10-05-2007, 11:00 AM
i'm amazed it took someone this long to pick one of the two best quarterbacks in the league.

I think it's just because they're 30/31. Even though they each still have about 5 years left in them, I suppose these people are thinking super long term, instead of at least one guaranteed superbowl.

Moses
10-05-2007, 11:03 AM
I think it's just because they're 30/31. Even though they each still have about 5 years left in them, I suppose these people are thinking super long term, instead of at least one guaranteed superbowl.

I was basically thinking about picking the best young players.

Sniper
10-05-2007, 11:17 AM
QB- Vince Young. Since it's expansion, I want a really young QB and a proven gamer and winner. VY fits the bill.
RB- Reggie Bush. Yes, yes, he averages like .678 ypc right now. But it's only his second season and his physical tools are amazing.
RB- Adrian Peterson. The Thunder to Reggie's Lightning. Can do it all, and will be great in between the tackles.
TE- Vernon Davis. Raw route runner and drops a lot of passes, but at 6'3, 255 and 4.38 speed, we'll make something happen.
LT- Marcus McNeil.
LG- Logan Mankins.
C- Jamaal Jackson
RG- Shawn Andrews
RT- D'Brickashaw Ferguson

DE- Mario Williams
DT- Amobi Okoye
DT- Alan Branch
DE- Julius Peppers
OLB- A.J Hawk
MLB- DeMeco Ryans
OLB- Patrick Willis (he can play anywhere)
CB- Champ Bailey
CB- Leon Hall
FS- Sean Taylor
SS- Adrian Wilson

K- Mason Crosby
P- Daniel Sepulveda
RET- Devin Hester (You were expecting Reno Mahe?)

Heywood Jabuzof
10-05-2007, 12:29 PM
QB - Jamarcus Russell
RB - Jonathon Stewart*
FB - Brandon Jacobs
TE - Greg Olsen
WR - Calvin Johnson
WR - Dwayne Bowe
Slot - Desean Jackson*
LT - D'Brick
LG - Chris Snee
OC - Nick Mangold
RG - Shawn Andrews
RT - Marcus McNeil

RE - Terrell Suggs
LE - Mario Williams
DT - Sedrick Ellis*
NT - Haloti Ngata
OLB - Ernie Sims
MLB - AJ Hawk
LOLB - Shawn Merriman
CB - Darrelle Revis
CB - Antonio Cromartie
FS - Sean Taylor
SS - Laron Landry

PK - Mason Crosby

* - Still in college

23trufant
10-05-2007, 01:13 PM
QB: Tom Brady
RB: Steven Jackson / Willie Parker
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Plaxico Burress
TE: Kellen Winslow Jr
LT: Walter Jones
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeil

LE: Osi Umenyiora
DT: Kevin Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
RE: Mario Williams
OLB: Keith Bulluck
MLB: Patrick Willis
OLB: Julian Peterson
CB: Antoine Winfield
FS: LaRon Landry
SS: Adrian Wilson
CB: Champ Bailey

Romarville
10-05-2007, 03:35 PM
QB: Vince Young
RB: Reggie Bush
TE: Jason Witten
TE: Kellen Winslow
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Calvin Johnson
LT: Jamaal Brown
LG: Steve Hutchinson
C: Chris Spencer
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeill

DE: Mario Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
DT: Kevin Williams
DE: Julius Peppers
OLB: AJ Hawk
MLB: Lofa Tatupu
OLB: Derrick Johnson
SS: Adrian Wilson
FS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Nate Clements

nfrillman
10-05-2007, 03:56 PM
Umm, you guys know the teams you are putting together have absolutely nothing to do with an expansion team. Are you aware of how expansion teams are put together. The majority of the roster would be people you have never heard of because other teams get to protect many players against expansion draft. For example, the Texans first pick in their expansion draft was Tony Boselli, who was a great LT at the time, but he was not real young and had some injury problems. So if he was their very first pick, I highly doubt anyone would be getting V Young, Peterson, Calvin Johnson, etc. These should be called Madden Fantasy drafts because no expansion team would ever look like these.

HoopsDemon12
10-05-2007, 03:58 PM
QB: Carson Palmer
RB: Adrian peterson
RB: Brian Westbrook
TE: Antonio Gates
TE: Heath Miller
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Calvin Johnson
WR: Lee Evans
LT: Jason Peters
LG: Steve Hutchinson
C: LeCharles Bentley
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Marcus McNeill

4-3
DE: Mario Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
DT: Kevin Williams
DE: Julius Peppers
OLB: AJ Hawk
MLB: Brian Urlacher
OLB: Derrick Johnson
SS: Sean Taylor
FS: Ed Reed
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Nate Clements

3-4
DE: Richard Seymour
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Shawn Merriman
ILB: Patrick Willis
ILB: Brian Urlacher
OLB: Demarcus Ware
SS: Sean Taylor
FS: Ed Reed
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Nate Clements

Chucky
10-05-2007, 04:02 PM
QB: Tom Brady
RB: LDT
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Anguan Boldin
WR: Steve Smith
TE: Antonio Gates
TE: Daniel Graham(blocking purposes mainly)
LT: Jamaal Brown
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Jake Long

Cover 2 Scheme

DE: Julius Peppers
DT: Kevin Williams
DT: Tommie Harris
DE: Mario Williams
OLB: Ernie Sims
MLB: Barret Ruud
OLB: AJ Hawk
CB: CHamp
SS: Adrian Wilson
FS: Ed Reed
CB: Antoine Winfield

HoopsDemon12
10-05-2007, 04:53 PM
Umm, you guys know the teams you are putting together have absolutely nothing to do with an expansion team. Are you aware of how expansion teams are put together. The majority of the roster would be people you have never heard of because other teams get to protect many players against expansion draft. For example, the Texans first pick in their expansion draft was Tony Boselli, who was a great LT at the time, but he was not real young and had some injury problems. So if he was their very first pick, I highly doubt anyone would be getting V Young, Peterson, Calvin Johnson, etc. These should be called Madden Fantasy drafts because no expansion team would ever look like these.

I thnks its jsut a fancy way of bascailly saying if you could take anyone you want to be on your fantasy team... to trya nd win now and in the future.. who would it be...


We all watch football and know enoguh to know .. that no expansion team would ever look like this.. come on..

Bills2083
10-05-2007, 05:00 PM
3-4
DE: Richard Seymour
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Shawn Merriman
ILB: Patrick Willis
ILB: Brian Urlacher
OLB: Demarcus Ware
SS: Sean Taylor
FS: Ed Reed
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Nate Clements

Do you think that Posluszny would be a good 3-4 LB?

BTW, I'm surprised at how few of you are adding Jason Peters to your rosters

HoopsDemon12
10-05-2007, 05:13 PM
Do you think that Posluszny would be a good 3-4 LB?

BTW, I'm surprised at how few of you are adding Jason Peters to your rosters

I think he would.. but Willis is just way more athletic and i think i would take him over Puz any day of hte week and im a huge Puz homer

Bills2083
10-05-2007, 05:18 PM
I was one of the biggest Willis fans heading into the draft. But I wouldn't trade Poz/Lynch for Willis

Moses
10-05-2007, 05:43 PM
very few of these teams would do a lot of winning now. i don't recall a single case where a roster made up almost entirely of rookies and second year players has done well at any level of any sport.

One reason for this could be because it has never happened before.

BigDawg819
10-05-2007, 06:45 PM
If this was an Expansion Team, wouldn't you need 53 players?

Bills2083
10-05-2007, 07:18 PM
^expansion team's starting lineup.

HoopsDemon12
10-05-2007, 07:28 PM
very few of these teams would do a lot of winning now. i don't recall a single case where a roster made up almost entirely of rookies and second year players has done well at any level of any sport.

Well thats why my team isnt all rookies and second year players

Ravens1991
10-05-2007, 09:15 PM
QB-Vince Young
RB-Adrian Peterson
FB-LeRon McClain
TE-KW2
WR-Calvin Johnson
WR-Roy Williams
WR-Dwayne Bowe
LT-Jamal Brown
LG-Ben Grubbs
C-Nick Mangold
RG-Shawn Andrews
RT-Marcus McNeil

RDE-Osi
DT-Tommie Harris
DT-Haloti Ngata
LDE-Mario Williams
OLB-John Vilma
MLB-Patrick Willis
OLB-AJ Hawk
CB-Champ Bailey
CB-Antonio Cromartie
FS-Michael Huff
SS-Laron Landry

A quick list I threw together it is probably bad.

BigDawg819
10-05-2007, 09:18 PM
QB-Vince Young
RB-Adrian Peterson
FB-LeRon McClain
TE-KW2
WR-Calvin Johnson
WR-Roy Williams
WR-Dwayne Bowe
LT-Jamal Brown
LG-Ben Grubbs
C-Nick Mangold
RG-Shawn Andrews
RT-Marcus McNeil

RDE-Osi
DT-Tommie Harris
DT-Haloti Ngata
LDE-Mario Williams
OLB-John Vilma
MLB-Patrick Willis
OLB-AJ Hawk
CB-Champ Bailey
CB-Antonio Cromartie
FS-Michael Huff
SS-Laron Landry

A quick list I threw together it is probably bad.

Only 3 Ravens, I'm actually impressed.......

Scotty D
10-05-2007, 09:24 PM
QB - Tom Brady
RB - Adrian Peterson - Brandon Jacobs
FB - Brian Leonard
WR - Steve Smith
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Dwayne Bowe
WR - Calvin Johnson
TE - Jason Witten
LT - Michael Roos
OG - Shawn Andrews
C - Dan Koppen
OG - Steve Hutchinson
RT - Marcus McNeill

DE - Mark Anderson
DT - Glenn Dorsey
DT - Shaun Rogers
DE - Mario Williams
OLB - Ernie Sims
MLB - Patrick Willis
OLB - AJ Hawk
CB - Rashean Mathis
SS - Adrian Wilson
FS - Sean Taylor
CB - Champ Bailey

Michigan
10-05-2007, 09:47 PM
QB- Vince Young. Since it's expansion, I want a really young QB and a proven gamer and winner. VY fits the bill.
RB- Reggie Bush. Yes, yes, he averages like .678 ypc right now. But it's only his second season and his physical tools are amazing.
RB- Adrian Peterson. The Thunder to Reggie's Lightning. Can do it all, and will be great in between the tackles.
TE- Vernon Davis. Raw route runner and drops a lot of passes, but at 6'3, 255 and 4.38 speed, we'll make something happen.
LT- Marcus McNeil.
LG- Logan Mankins.
C- Jamaal Jackson
RG- Shawn Andrews
RT- D'Brickashaw Ferguson


Gotta love the 9-man offense.

Basileus777
10-05-2007, 09:55 PM
QB Vince Young
RB LaDanian Tomlison
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Roy Williams
WR Calvin Johnson
TE Antonio Gates
LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson
LG Logan Mankins
C Nick Mangold
RG Shawn Andrews
RT Shane Olivea

LE Julius Peppers
NT Vince Wilfork
UT Tommie Harris
RE Mario Williams
SLB DJ Williams (where he belongs)
MLB Patrick Willis
WLB Ernie Sims
CB Champ Bailey
FS Sean Taylor
SS Kerry Rhodes
CB Nate Clements

Shane Olivea??? :eek:

Moses
10-05-2007, 10:08 PM
Shane Olivea??? :eek:

He's good in Madden. ;)

Ravens1991
10-05-2007, 11:31 PM
Only 3 Ravens, I'm actually impressed.......

haha I am sure that there is a better young FB then McClain but I just put him on there because I didnt think of anybody else.

Sniper
10-06-2007, 12:22 AM
Gotta love the 9-man offense.

Haha my team doesn't need 11. Just kidding, CJ and Dwayne Bowe for my wideouts.

Dunta_23
10-06-2007, 09:17 AM
Does the fact that Mario Williams shows up on more than half of these rosters and Reggie Bush has shown up once confirm that the Texans in fact, did make the right decision between those 2 players?

Moses
10-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Does the fact that Mario Williams shows up on more than half of these rosters and Reggie Bush has shown up once confirm that the Texans in fact, did make the right decision between those 2 players?

Kind of early to make that call.

neko4
10-06-2007, 09:33 AM
Does the fact that Mario Williams shows up on more than half of these rosters and Reggie Bush has shown up once confirm that the Texans in fact, did make the right decision between those 2 players?
I am a big Mario fan but public oppinion should not always decide a players ability

OzTitan
10-06-2007, 09:55 AM
Does the fact that Mario Williams shows up on more than half of these rosters and Reggie Bush has shown up once confirm that the Texans in fact, did make the right decision between those 2 players?

Nope, there is far more young talent at HB as opposed to DE to build around in this scenario. Plus you get to choose two DE's.

It may be true but not because of why you said.

HoopsDemon12
10-06-2007, 10:47 AM
Does the fact that Mario Williams shows up on more than half of these rosters and Reggie Bush has shown up once confirm that the Texans in fact, did make the right decision between those 2 players?

Well for me i would want a smash mouth runninggame... so im not picking bush.. i take peterson any day of the week that is for sure. I like Williams and think he will be a perrinial probowler in a couple years... same with bush.. just ill take a tough runner over bush anyday

neko4
10-06-2007, 11:00 AM
QB-Carson Palmer
HB-Maurice Jones-Drew
HB-Reggie Bush
WR-Calvin Johnson
WR-Chad Johnson
WR-Greg Jennings
TE-Vernon Davis
OT-D'Brick
OG-Darryn Colledge
C-Nick Mangold
OG-Shawn Andrews
OT-Marcus McNeil

DE-Mario Williams
DT-Amobi Okoye
DT-Tommie Harris
DE-Osi
LB-AJ
LB-Demeco Ryans
LB-Derrick Johnson
CB-Champ Bailey
CB-Rasheen Mathis
S-Sean Taylor
S-Laron Landry

K-Mason Crosby
P-Brian Moorman

KR-Jerome Mathis
PR-Devin Hester

McBain
10-06-2007, 11:23 AM
Tom Brady
Maurice Jones Drew
Mike Sellers
Randy Moss
85
Santana
Cooley
Walter Jones
Mankins
Koppen
randy thomas
marcus mcniel

peppers
tommie harris
vince wilfork
osi

rocky mcintosh
patrick willis
aj cawk

champ
smoot (i need someone to yell at)

Laron
ST

Philliez01
10-06-2007, 11:50 AM
Obviously you haven't seen him play this year.

And you also don't know which defensive scheme I intend to play. Cato June is one of the best, if not the best coverage linebacker in the NFL. Maybe you should have asked which defensive scheme I want to use.

But isn't that a bit of an obvious statement? You can put a mediocre CB like say, Tim Jennings and place him at LB and he would be the best coverage linebacker in the NFL. Cato is great in coverage but the fact that he has difficulty taking on blockers and makes so many arm tackles is enough for me to discredit his coverage. Freddie Keiaho is not terrible, but isn't anything special at the same time, in coverage but he has already proven to nearly be a big upgrade over June.

Then again, my viewings of him has come from his Colts days.


My Team:

QB: Peyton Manning
RB: Joseph Addai
WR: Marvin Harrison
WR: Calvin Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
LT: Marcus McNeil
LG: Alan Faneca
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Shawn Andrews
RT: Ryan Diem

DE: Julius Peppers
DT: Richard Seymour
DT: Broderick Bunkley
DE: Josh Thomas (just to have a random starter on an unrealistic team)

OLB: Freddie Keiaho
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: David Thornton

CB: Ellis Hobbs
CB: Marlin Jackson
S: Bob Sanders
S: Anthony Smith

K: Rob Bironas
P: Ryan Plackemeier

I know this isn't realistic, but I tried.

Jakey
10-06-2007, 12:35 PM
My Team:

QB- Carson Palmer
RB- Brian Westbrook
WR- Roy Williams
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- Santonio Holmes
TE- Antonio Gates
LT- Walter Jones
LG- Alan Faneca
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Shawn Andrews
RT- Joe Thomas

3-4 Defence:

LE- Haloti Ngata
NT- Casey Hampton
RE- Richard Seymour

LOLB- DeMarcus Ware/LaMarr Woodley(but i dont wanna sound like too much of a homer)
MLB- Demeco Ryans
MLB- Patrick Willis
ROLB- Kamerion Wimbley

CB- Champ Bailey
CB- Asante Samuel
SS- Troy Polamalu
FS- Ed Reed

KR- Devin Hester
PR- " "

K- Mason Crosby}
P- Daniel Sepulveda} Two young guns.

TimD
10-06-2007, 01:04 PM
aj cawk


typo?! haha

Caddy
10-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Then again, my viewings of him has come from his Colts days.



Like I said before. Obviously you haven't watched him play this year. He seems to be a much improved player and has been a great addition to the Buc's LB corp.

Mr. Stiller
10-06-2007, 10:06 PM
QB-Carson Palmer (Young and Talented)
RB-Adrian Peterson ~ Thunder
RB-Willie Parker ~ Lightning
FB-LeRon McClain
TE-Kellen Winslow
TE-Heath Miller
WR-Roy Williams
WR-Andre Johnson
WR-Santonio Holmes
LT- Jammal Brown
LG-Shawn Andrews
C-Andre Gurode
RG-Leonard Davis
RT- Levi Brown

RDE- Kevin Williams
NT- Casey Hampton
LDE-Haloti Ngata

ROLB- Shawne Merriman
RILB- Kirk Morrison
LILB-AJ Hawk
LOLB- DeMarcus Ware
CB-Champ Bailey
CB-Darrelle Revis
FS-Rashean Mathis
SS-Troy Polamalu

P: Daniel Sepulveda
K: Nick Folk

PR: Steve Breaston
KR: Josh Cribbs

A Perfect Score
10-06-2007, 11:23 PM
QB-Carson Palmer (Young and Talented)
RB-Adrian Peterson ~ Thunder
RB-Willie Parker ~ Lightning
FB-LeRon McClain
TE-Kellen Winslow
TE-Heath Miller
WR-Roy Williams
WR-Andre Johnson
WR-Santonio Holmes
LT- Jammal Brown
LG-Shawn Andrews
C-Andre Gurode
RG-Leonard Davis
RT- Levi Brown

RDE- Kevin Williams
NT- Casey Hampton
LDE-Haloti Ngata

ROLB- Shawne Merriman
RILB- Kirk Morrison
LILB-AJ Hawk
LOLB- DeMarcus Ware
CB-Champ Bailey
CB-Darrelle Revis
FS-Rashean Mathis
SS-Troy Polamalu

P: Daniel Sepulveda
K: Nick Folk

PR: Steve Breaston
KR: Josh Cribbs


why do people in this thread insist on putting adrian peterson as the "thunder"? he is obviously a complete running back and doesnt need to be paired with another rb. he is the thunder AND the lightning. I dont mean to single out your specific team, i have seen it a few times and was wondering the logic behind it thats all

Staubach12
10-06-2007, 11:37 PM
QB: Jay Cutler
RB: Adrian Peterson
WR: Calvin Johnson
WR: Roy Williams
TE: Jason Witten
T: Marcus McNeill
G: Logan Mankins
C: Olin Kreutz
G: Shawne Andrews
T: Levi Brown

DE: Loius Castillo
NT: Vince Wilfork
DE: Ty Warren
OLB: DeMarcus Ware
ILB: Mike Vrabel
ILB: D'Qwell Jackson
OLB: Shawne Merriman
CB: Champ Bailey
SS: Troy Polamalu
FS: LaRon Landry
CB: Asante Samuel

K: Mason Crosby
P: Matt McBrair
KR/PR: Devin Hester

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
10-07-2007, 09:14 AM
QB- Cutler
RB- Tomlinson
FB-Lorenzo Neal
TE-Jason Witten
WR-Javon Walker
WR-Reggie Wayne
LT- Jason Peters
LG-Steinbach
C-Nick Mangold
RG-Shawn Andrews
RT-Willie Anderson

LE-Mario
DT-John Henderson
DT-Shaun Rogers
RE-Osi
WLB-Merriman
ILB-Vilma
SLB-DJ Williams
CB-Champ
CB-Deangelo Hall
NB-Darelle Revis
FS-Sean Taylor
SS-John Lynch

IMO a good mix of veteran leadership and youthful athleticism. Plus, with that team Cutler won't be thrust into the spotlight too early, and can manage the game while throwing to studs until he is 100% ready to be the focal point.

Dunta_23
10-07-2007, 11:27 AM
QB- Tom Brady
RB- Adrian Peterson
FB- Vonta Leach
TE- Kellen Winslow
LT- Marcus McNeil
LG- Shaun Andrews
C- Nick Mangold
RG- Logan Mankins
RT- Eric Winston

WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- Reggie Wayne

LE- Osi
DT- Amobi Okoye
NT- Holoti Ngata
RE- Mario Williams

OLB- Patrick Willis
MLB- DeMeco Ryans
OLB- AJ Hawk

CB1- Champ Bailey
CB2- Dunta Robinson
CB3- Nate Clements

S- LaRon & Dawan Landry

K- Vinatieri
P- Lechler

KR- Jerome Mathis
PR- Devin Hester

awfullyquiet
10-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Sadly, the defense is very expensive. The breakout players who had cheap contracts are few and far between. Mark Anderson? Yeah.

QB- Tom Brady
RB- Maroney
FB- Fred Beasly
TE- Vernon Davis
LT- Walter Jones
LG- Ryan Dielman
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- LeCharles Bentley
RT- Bob Gallery
WR- Mike Furrey
WR- Antwaan Randle El
WR- Andre Johnson

Defense-
LE- Aaron Kampmann
DT- Okoye
NT- Tommie Harris
RE- Mark Anderson
OLB- A. Thomas
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- AJ Hawk
CB1- Champ Bailey
CB2- Nate Clements
S- Kerry Rhodes
S- Ed Reed

K- Vinatieri, P-Moorman
KR, PR- Devin Hester

Mr. Stiller
10-07-2007, 09:34 PM
why do people in this thread insist on putting adrian peterson as the "thunder"? he is obviously a complete running back and doesnt need to be paired with another rb. he is the thunder AND the lightning. I dont mean to single out your specific team, i have seen it a few times and was wondering the logic behind it thats all

Granted he's complete, he's a lot more powerful than Parker. I just think Parker is a great scat quick cut back..

I think A pair of AD and FWP would be awesome.