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01-31-2007, 10:34 AM
For the Browns our starting QB is Charlie Frye.

Do you think he is a future top 10-15 QB or is it best we try to draft Brady Quinn?

I ask this because QB is so essential for winning and Im crossed at who to build around.

What about other teams? Anyone not convinced with their prospects or current situations?

Sveen
01-31-2007, 10:36 AM
I'm very happy with Drew Brees. :D

Splat
01-31-2007, 10:45 AM
If Quinn is on the board you have to take him.

Philliez01
01-31-2007, 11:10 AM
I really think Frye can be an adequate starter in the league and if Northcutt had a set of hands, Anderson would've ended out the year much better. I think it could be considered a "need" but I think the team needs more help on the OL and the DL. They have a solid core at LB with Andra Davis, Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson and the secondary is a bit shaky (Baxter's injuries let it look worse) but Bodden is acceptable.

I still think they should look at Alan Branch if they lose the flip and get pick #4. A guy like him can take over for the aging Ted Washington and give them a very good, young NT who can take a couple blockers with him and open up the LB'ers to make a tackle.

Freddy G
01-31-2007, 11:45 AM
Charlie is the man for at least another season.

To throw him under the bus already is ridiculus.

Personally, i see good starting potential in him. I could care less if he will ever be considered a great, or better QBs in the league. As long as he does his job, and lets his natural ability to make a play shine through he should be fine. Experience, coaching, and running game will do a lot for him.

PalmerToCJ
01-31-2007, 11:47 AM
We're set at QB I'd say 8)


I'm not sold on Frye, granted he was under pressure and surely that impacted it but Russell/Quinn would be rough to pass up.

FloridaFootball
01-31-2007, 11:50 AM
Stick with Frye/Anderson, don't let Peterson fall out of their grips, it will haunt them for a long time.

Frye, Edwards, Winslow, Peterson = scary

eazyb81
01-31-2007, 11:54 AM
I think you have to take Quinn if he's on the board, but Thomas would be a great asset for Frye or Anderson if Detroit picks up Quinn.

01-31-2007, 11:54 AM
Every Browns fan has a history of overrating their players, and this is the same case...

Remember Lee Suggs, Kelly Holcomb before Frye, Kevin Johnson, and I dont even need to mention more because if your a Browns fan, you allready know what im talking about weather you admit it or not.

We all thought with the right situations, that most of our past players would be good or even great, but never once did any of them pan out.

Frye is no different, than Couch, Holcomb, Garcia, etc.....

Draft Quinn this year, and sign Kris Dielman, and an OG in the draft, wait for Bentley to come back in 08-09 and our offense will finally take a step forward. We might even be in position to take a stud runningback next year like Mcfadden etc....

01-31-2007, 11:57 AM
Stick with Frye/Anderson, don't let Peterson fall out of their grips, it will haunt them for a long time.


Im starting to think taking Peterson will haunt us for along time.

Look at all the 1st round talent we lost because of injury...

Cleveland gets more people hurt than any of team in NFL history literally.

Within the last 3 seasons we set a new NFL record for people on the injured list.

Peterson is allready off to a bad start. He also seems to run very straight up and down, and will get pounded by the Ravens and Steelers LB's.

The fact that our 2nd string QB is getting as many votes as Frye should also say alot.

Remember Edwards and Winslow argueing with him durring the course of the season? It shows he doesnt have there respect. And he refuse to throw the ball to JJ. He was only good outside of the pocket, which isnt a good sign for a QB. Think Jake Plummer.

Vikes99ej
01-31-2007, 12:10 PM
I'd say we are with Jackson, but I don't think Childress will hesitate to go with Bollinger if Jackson struggles consistently.

eacantdraft
01-31-2007, 12:37 PM
You should pick Quinn if he is there (doubt that). Frye is adequate. Anderson is Kelly Holcomb part II.

bearsfan_51
01-31-2007, 12:49 PM
You should pick Quinn if he is there (doubt that). Frye is adequate. Anderson is Kelly Holcomb part II.
Yeah pretty much. I'm friends with Charlie and even I couldn't condone not drafting Quinn because of him.

sweetness34
01-31-2007, 01:08 PM
You should pick Quinn if he is there (doubt that). Frye is adequate. Anderson is Kelly Holcomb part II.
Yeah pretty much. I'm friends with Charlie and even I couldn't condone not drafting Quinn because of him.

Sure 51...Keep telling yourself he's your friend. :P :wink:

Pit Bull #53
01-31-2007, 05:55 PM
Hopefully. We shall see how he progresses. He has a longer way to go than some fans would like to think, but I am confident.

01-31-2007, 08:16 PM
I really think Quinn is better allready than Frye is, and hes 3 years younger. He has alot stronger arm and will probably command more out of his players. Charlie has allready got in game day arguements with Winslow and Edwards which shows lack of leadership in certain situations. He also has been knocked countlessly for having poor practice proformances. Hes a risk taker and you cannot have that on a team that cant afford mistakes. If he played the whole season, he would have thrown 25 INT's.

Quinn also has big hands to hold onto the ball, Frye lost a fumble just about every game he played in and fumbled around 2 other times in the games but usually got them back. Quinn can hold onto a cold ball and throw it in Clevelands winter better than Frye can IMO.

Quinns upside is huge, Frye's is very limited.

Wuinn can also scrambled simular to Frye can when neccesary. I like that.

Quinn is ready for the NFL allready since hes one of the only QB's that has played in a pro style offense. hes also groomed because hes been under one of the best QB coaches on earth. Reminds me of Norm Chow and how he made it so easy for Palmer and Lienart to step in to the league.

IMO Frye isnt a certain franchise QB and Quinn is, and you cannot pass on a franchise QB if you dont allready have one.

Hurricane Ditka
01-31-2007, 08:21 PM
You should pick Quinn if he is there (doubt that). Frye is adequate. Anderson is Kelly Holcomb part II.
Yeah pretty much. I'm friends with Charlie and even I couldn't condone not drafting Quinn because of him.Is that what they call it these days? I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist that one. Didn't you say his sister was hot?

bearsfan_51
01-31-2007, 08:23 PM
You should pick Quinn if he is there (doubt that). Frye is adequate. Anderson is Kelly Holcomb part II.
Yeah pretty much. I'm friends with Charlie and even I couldn't condone not drafting Quinn because of him.Is that what they call it these days? I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist that one. Didn't you say his sister was hot?
Yeah she's pretty hot. I mean the fact that her brother is an NFL QB probably makes her more hot, but yeah.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
01-31-2007, 08:24 PM
If Quinn's there, I think it would be an alright idea to take him, but I don't think he should be thrown into the fire right away. They need to shore up the OL in the worst way if Quinn goes there, or it can be the Michigan and LSU games all over again.

BuckNaked
01-31-2007, 08:40 PM
I'm giving Jackson a year........or almost a year. I have high hopes for him.

T-RICH49
01-31-2007, 08:47 PM
KC is NOT set at QB.Green is a shell of his former self

icantackleclaret
01-31-2007, 08:49 PM
If Romeo doesn't win this year he is gone. That is pretty much a fact and reality now. I really can't see him giving the ok to draft another young QB. I want to see Frye do well and hope he can for the teams sake. Not to many QBs are going to come into Cleveland and turn it around without A) a running game and B) a full 3-5 secs to look down field.

sdpads24
01-31-2007, 08:51 PM
Philip Rivers=14-2, ya were set.

Shiver
01-31-2007, 08:51 PM
Michael Vick is the '07 starter. Cannot say beyond that. Here is his chance to step up to the plate, he needs to at least return to his Dan Reeves' production.

Matthew Jones
01-31-2007, 08:53 PM
Your poll is missing the man. Ken Dorsey.

Ace
01-31-2007, 09:07 PM
Our team hasn't been set at QB going on 7 years now. :roll:

jackalope
01-31-2007, 09:20 PM
if Favre chooses to stay or go, i feel fine either way.

01-31-2007, 09:22 PM
I dont know how many times ill say this but... Derek Anderson is the future there!!!! The only thing they need now is a franschise RB and Adrian Peterson is the smartest choice for them.

01-31-2007, 11:30 PM
Why Ken Dorsey is still in the NFL is beyond me. He literally has the weakest arm ive ever seen.

Im_a_Romosexual
01-31-2007, 11:41 PM
<----- need I say more?

zoinks
02-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Vince Young?

Yeah, I think we'll manage....

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
02-01-2007, 08:46 AM
My team is set-a-mundo. JCisAGod.

Space Ghost
02-01-2007, 09:04 AM
Yes.

PoopSandwich
02-01-2007, 10:04 AM
Quinn PLEASE.

PoopSandwich
02-01-2007, 10:06 AM
Stick with Frye/Anderson, don't let Peterson fall out of their grips, it will haunt them for a long time.




Remember Edwards and Winslow argueing with him durring the course of the season? It shows he doesnt have there respect. And he refuse to throw the ball to JJ. He was only good outside of the pocket, which isnt a good sign for a QB. Think Jake Plummer.

No offense but you are completely wrong about that... Winslow respects Charlie Frye 10x more than he should, it's all in the interviews and what not... He said its a team game and without protection Charlie can't do it, and that's not his fault... Same with Braylon, he tugged on Charlie's jersey a bit and yelled to the o-line KEEP THIS CLEAN... They respect Charlie, not the line.

Titans10
02-01-2007, 12:06 PM
We are set a qb

Vince still has things to learn and needs to work on the throwing part of his game....but most importantly he wins football games and thats all that matters in the end

02-01-2007, 12:13 PM
No offense but you are completely wrong about that... Winslow respects Charlie Frye 10x more than he should, it's all in the interviews and what not... He said its a team game and without protection Charlie can't do it, and that's not his fault... Same with Braylon, he tugged on Charlie's jersey a bit and yelled to the o-line KEEP THIS CLEAN... They respect Charlie, not the line.

you obviously didnt read the reports at the time it happened. But I assure you that Winslow and Edwards do not have that high of respect anymore. They said they did in the media at the beggining of the season, but when you put people on the field all secrets come out and it was clear.

BDG
02-01-2007, 01:25 PM
Adrian Peterson 1st round, Troy smith 2nd round? Troy Smith even said it himself that he would like to play for the Browns. Smith, Peterson, Winslow, Edwards = Hawt Combo. :p

02-01-2007, 01:42 PM
I'd say we are with Jackson, but I don't think Childress will hesitate to go with Bollinger if Jackson struggles consistently. ummm Jackson isn't our starter.
Bollinger and jackson will compete for the starting gig in training camp in 07.

So to answer the question, no. My team is NOT set at QB.
furhermore the talent level isn't very high at that position either.
If Quinn is available at 7, despite what childress has said, I'm not
sure we can afford to NOT draft Quinn (or Russell) at 7.


Cleveland ?? does anyone even bother with them anymore ?? ...lol
Cleveland is to QB's what Detroit is to WR's.

02-01-2007, 01:44 PM
Adrian Peterson 1st round, Troy smith 2nd round? Troy Smith even said it himself that he would like to play for the Browns. Smith, Peterson, Winslow, Edwards = Hawt Combo. :p
Not that I care...but Quinn said the same thing....
like a month earlier.

Still can't figure out why though...Cleveland ??? seriously...Cleveland ???
Unless you have family there I can't think of a single reason to WANT to play there.

P-L
02-01-2007, 01:45 PM
According to half of my fellow fans we are. (Although we're not)

PoopSandwich
02-01-2007, 02:14 PM
No offense but you are completely wrong about that... Winslow respects Charlie Frye 10x more than he should, it's all in the interviews and what not... He said its a team game and without protection Charlie can't do it, and that's not his fault... Same with Braylon, he tugged on Charlie's jersey a bit and yelled to the o-line KEEP THIS CLEAN... They respect Charlie, not the line.

you obviously didnt read the reports at the time it happened. But I assure you that Winslow and Edwards do not have that high of respect anymore. They said they did in the media at the beggining of the season, but when you put people on the field all secrets come out and it was clear.

Look im no Frye fan, but I am 100% sure Winslow respects Chralie Frye... It's right there, Winslow never did anything on the field to Frye to make me question that, he said the coaches didn't have him in on third down, not that Frye wasnt throwing him the ball... Winslow sure as hell respects Frye, just look at the #'s (89 Catches 875 yards)

Jango
02-01-2007, 02:23 PM
We are set at QB with Brady as the starter and Cassel as the second choice. Might need to pick up a decent vet in FA or draft a QB late in the draft for our third guy.

ks_perfection
02-02-2007, 12:57 PM
Whats wrong with Vinny?

NYGIANTSFAN_UK
02-02-2007, 03:03 PM
I think RB is a much more pressing need for the Browns than QB. Droughns is absolutely terrible.

comahan
02-02-2007, 03:06 PM
Id like to say we are, but... No.

EdReedUnstoppable
02-02-2007, 03:55 PM
I dont know how many times ill say this but... Derek Anderson is the future there!!!! The only thing they need now is a franschise RB and Adrian Peterson is the smartest choice for them.

Disagree, Derek Anderson is a guy who can be a serviceable backup, but he is not a NFL starting quality QB.

EdReedUnstoppable
02-02-2007, 03:57 PM
I hope my team is not set at starting QB, I cant take another year of an old worn out QB who cant throw.

02-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Kitna is the Lions starter but we have Martz, which makes up for his inabilities.

We're not set for the future or the present because Kitna can't lead a comeback late in the 4th and he is horrible in the red zone and threw way too many interceptions (mostly the receivers/protection problems according to Martz). However, he had pretty good numbers completion percentage and yardage wise. The only other Lions QB to throw for 4,000 yards was Scott Mitchell in 1995 with Tom Moore as our O-Coordinator. Now with Kitna/Martz we have the same type of combo. Great O-coordinator with a mediocre quarterback.

Marinelli/Martz love Kitna and have already declared him the starter next year, which is crazy after a 3-13 season and given Kitna's age. 2008 for Kitna depends on 2007 and Mike Martz staying/leaving. The Lions are not going to draft Quinn because they are only thinking short-term right now with Martz. As long as Martz is here, which won't be for more than 2 more years IMO, we won't draft a QB in Round 1 unless Kitna is horrible in 2007 and Martz leaves. Martz gave Kitna an A grade at the end of the year in an interview I read.

PackerFan20
02-05-2007, 05:27 PM
I voted Quinn, but Frye is a really close second.

Rex212
02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
For the browns I would stick with what they have, if Joe Thomas is available. If not I would take Quinn.