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SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Who are some of the big sleeper DE prospects. Personally I am a huge fan of Gardner Webb DE Brian Johnston(I know him personally). he's 6'5" 276(listed but I hear he's up to 285) and has run a reported 4.72 in practice. He's got 3 sacks and 9.5 TFL through 5 games. He reminds me a lot of Aaron Kampman and Aaron Smith.

San Diego DE Eric Bakhtiari is another FCS DE I like. He's 6'4" 260 and has run in the 4.8 range. He's leading Division 1-AA in sacks at 7.5 and TFL at 10.

Scott Wright
10-08-2007, 12:44 PM
For a big school guy keep an eye on Cincinnati's Angelo Craig. 6-5, 245 and reportedly runs a 4.55 - 4.60.

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 01:00 PM
For a big school guy keep an eye on Cincinnati's Angelo Craig. 6-5, 245 and reportedly runs a 4.55 - 4.60.

Yeah when I went to the Cincy/SDSU game he didn't make a ton of plays but was very disruptive in the backfield

Scott Wright
10-08-2007, 01:02 PM
Yeah when I went to the Cincy/SDSU game he didn't make a ton of plays but was very disruptive in the backfield

Yea, the Bearcats have actually produced a handful of guys in recent years who have found success in the NFL as mid or late round picks. They always have some good athletes.

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Yea, the Bearcats have actually produced a handful of guys in recent years who have found success in the NFL as mid or late round picks. They always have some good athletes.

If their football program is anything like its basketball program its because of poor academic standards.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Michigan's Tim Jamison is a pretty good 3rd down pass rusher type. 5.5 sacks so far this year, playe dbehind LaMarr Woodley so not many know about him. 6'3, 270.

Sniper
10-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Yea, the Bearcats have actually produced a handful of guys in recent years who have found success in the NFL as mid or late round picks. They always have some good athletes.

Trent Cole comes to mind.

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 01:05 PM
Trent Cole comes to mind.

So does Antwan Peek

Scott Wright
10-08-2007, 01:10 PM
For the Bearcats: Cole, Peak, Daven Holley, John Bowie, Tyjuan Hagler, etc.

Woody56
10-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Jonal Saint-Dic has that Elvis Dumervil quality, where he very undersized, not very athletic, but just knows how to get at the QB. Might also make for a good 3-4 OLB.

Mr. Stiller
10-08-2007, 01:18 PM
Trevor Scott, Buffalo
~ 6'5 255lbs 4.62 40'~
Played 2 seasons at TE before moving to DE last season (Posted 9 Sacks), this season he already has 7 sacks 3FF and 3 QBH.

Bryan Robinson, Wesley
~6'3 287 5.12 40'~
A DT/DE switch hitter at Wesley. When you look at small schools you look for Domination. Well the last 2 years as a DT/DE he's thrown up:
204 Tackles, 55.5 TFL's, 31.5 sacks, 18 PBU's, 10 QBH, 10 FF, 5 Blocked Kicks.
Thats just his past 2 seasons (Not including this one).
He looks like a late round developmental, but amazingly raw 3-4 DE.

Curtis Johnson, Clark Atlanta
~ 6'3 252lbs 4.64 40' ~

Quick and powerful. He put up 70 Tackles, 18 sacks, 23 TFL's, 1 INT, 9 FF and 1 block all just this past season.
Could be a Late day 2 - UDFA type 3-4 OLB.

Rudolph Hardie, Howard
~ 6'2 260lbs 4.69 40'~
Led the MEAC last year with 51 Tackles, 24 TFL, 9.5 Sacks, 3 FF and 7 QBH.
Another possible 3-4 OLB late day 2 type candidate.

I forgot:

Johnny Dingle, WVU
~ 6'3 273lbs, 4.74'~
Former Florida transfer is playing great and is a solid passrusher, and hold the point type of player. He's doing well in WVU's 3-3-5. Could play 3-4 DE or 4-3 DE.

Caesar Rayford, Washington
~6'6 245lbs, 4.82 ~

With some good strength/conditioning at the pro level, he could be solid. Has a great explosion off the snap but lacks the needed bulk for the pro game. One of those kids with tons of potential, but needs some time to get there. He has the frame to hold another 30lbs without really holding him back.

Mr. Stiller
10-08-2007, 01:25 PM
and if former Oregon player Dexter Manley II decides to play to his potential (He's at West Texas A&M), he'd be a beast. 6'3 280lbs 4.67.

He just doesn't play up to his potential a lot.

I think Manley is definitely worth a shot.

Hines
10-08-2007, 01:33 PM
For the Bearcats: Cole, Peak, Daven Holley, John Bowie, Tyjuan Hagler, etc.

andre fraizer

bored of education
10-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Angelo Craig

SeanTaylorRIP
10-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Virginia Tech DE, Chris Ellis who many had as a 2-3rd rounder before the season is plummeting fast due to injuries and poor play, if he is a day 2 pick he can become a great steal as a situational pass rusher.

Turtlepower
10-08-2007, 02:19 PM
Dorian Smith from Oregon State ain't too shabby either.

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 02:20 PM
Angelo Craig

You may want to ask Scott how his back is feeling after you clearly piggybacked his answer

TACKLE
10-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Kendall Langford, Hampton

Langford is 6'6 295 DE who has had 8 sacks last year along with 15.5 TFL in both his sophomore and junior season. He's probably better suited for a 3-4. Has the size and production but only question mark is level of competion. But guys to come out of Hampton recently have been quite successful.

Turtlepower
10-08-2007, 02:44 PM
Kendall Langford, Hampton

Langford is 6'6 295 DE who has had 8 sacks last year along with 15.5 TFL in both his sophomore and junior season. He's probably better suited for a 3-4. Has the size and production but only question mark is level of competion. But guys to come out of Hampton recently have been quite successful.

He is Scott's #3 sleeper, btw. =D

bored of education
10-08-2007, 02:47 PM
LOL@SuperKevin. My response wasn't to get brownie points. I saw the threat title, didn't read the thread and had one name in my mind.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-08-2007, 02:47 PM
You may want to ask Scott how his back is feeling after you clearly piggybacked his answer

oooh nice sting.

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 02:51 PM
LOL@SuperKevin. My response wasn't to get brownie points. I saw the threat title, didn't read the thread and had one name in my mind.

I'm just kidding with you anyway

PACKmanN
10-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Kendall Langford, Hampton

Langford is 6'6 295 DE who has had 8 sacks last year along with 15.5 TFL in both his sophomore and junior season. He's probably better suited for a 3-4. Has the size and production but only question mark is level of competion. But guys to come out of Hampton recently have been quite successful.

finally someone says him. He has all the tools to work with, ill be surprised if the 49ers do not draft him in the first.

Turtlepower
10-08-2007, 02:58 PM
finally someone says him. He has all the tools to work with, ill be surprised if the 49ers do not draft him in the first.

Did you seriously just say that a sleeper DE from Hampton should be a 1st rounder? He has tools, but he plays at Hampton...

bored of education
10-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Ohhhhhhh my bad yo

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 03:04 PM
Did you seriously just say that a sleeper DE from Hampton should be a 1st rounder? He has tools, but he plays at Hampton...

Justin Durant was almost a 1st rounder out of Hampton last year

PACKmanN
10-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Did you seriously just say that a sleeper DE from Hampton should be a 1st rounder? He has tools, but he plays at Hampton...

didnt a LB from Hampton go in round 2 last year? and the fact that he can play in a 3-4 too will make him a early pick.

draftguru151
10-08-2007, 04:04 PM
He was also on Kiper's top 25 in the preseason.

Someone mentioned him, but Saint-Dic has been a very good pass rusher this year. Jarriett Buie from USF hasn't looked bad either.

P-L
10-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Chase Ortiz, TCU
Wallace Gilberry, Alabama
Larry English, Northern Illinois

Mr. Stiller
10-08-2007, 04:29 PM
finally someone says him. He has all the tools to work with, ill be surprised if the 49ers do not draft him in the first.

I haven't thought him to be a sleeper.

6'6 295, strong as a bull and runs a 4.98-5.05 40'.

Saints-Tigers
10-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Are people still sleeping on Tyson Jackson? I think he can play in either scheme, but looks like a perfect Patriots Dlinemen ala Marquise Hill and Jarvis Green(ironically enough)

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
10-09-2007, 11:47 AM
As a 3-4 OLB project guy I like is my homer pick, Rodney Hardeway from UL. He's about 6'4" and 245 lbs which is obviously too small to play DE but he's a very good pure pass rusher. He's got 7 tackles for loss and 4 sacks through 6 games so far this season. Last season, he notched 10 tackles for loss, 6 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles in 10 games and was Honorable Mention All-Sun Belt. It's hard for me to predict anything more than a late Day 2 pick or an UDFA for Rodney, but isn't that what a sleeper prospect really is?

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 11:52 AM
Crap,

I forgot Andy Studebaker of Wheaton.

He had like 25 TFL's and 14 Sacks last season.

he's 6'3 255lbs runs in the 4.6's

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
10-09-2007, 11:59 AM
Crap,

I forgot Andy Studebaker of Wheaton.

He had like 25 TFL's and 14 Sacks last season.

he's 6'3 255lbs runs in the 4.6's

Dang, those are some good numbers. Now, where the hell is Wheaton?

SuperKevin
10-09-2007, 12:02 PM
Mr. Stiller likes poiting out super small school sleepers that look good in the stat sheet but never get a chance in the NFL

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 12:22 PM
Mr. Stiller likes poiting out super small school sleepers that look good in the stat sheet but never get a chance in the NFL

True. There's a chance that these guys won't get a chance..

But then again there's guys that put these #'s up and get a chance.

Following that Logic, Rashean Mathis should have never been drafted.

Jacoby Jones...
Jermon Bushrod
Greg Peterson
David Jones
Jacob Bender
Rashad Barksdale
Michael Allen
Chad Nkang

Those are those "Super Small school sleepers"

From last year that got drafted.

'cuse-213
10-09-2007, 12:31 PM
Jameel McClain. DE/3-4 OLB. Syracuse

scottyboy
10-09-2007, 12:56 PM
Scott has Rutgers' DT Eric Foster at DE, which is a better fit for him in the NFL than DT. He's got such an excellent motor and great speed/quickness for a DL. He could also be a MLB in the NFL...

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 01:11 PM
Scott has Rutgers' DT Eric Foster at DE, which is a better fit for him in the NFL than DT. He's got such an excellent motor and great speed/quickness for a DL. He could also be a MLB in the NFL...

I was thinking about him as a round 5-6 Buck 3-4 ILB Prospect.

He doesn't have great speed, but he's amazing at shedding blockers, he can rush the passer. He seems to be the exact type of Buck ILB that LeBeau loves.

PACKmanN
10-09-2007, 02:02 PM
What do you guys think of that TE on Michigan State as a DE? He been playing as one in 3rd downs and so far has been doing well.

draftguru151
10-09-2007, 03:36 PM
What do you guys think of that TE on Michigan State as a DE? He been playing as one in 3rd downs and so far has been doing well.

Davis has a future at TE, he's a nice situational guy in college, but that's not where his future is at.

etk
10-09-2007, 10:11 PM
Jameel McClain, Wallace Gilberry & Ervin Baldwin.

fischbowl
10-10-2007, 10:32 AM
Jesse Nading, Hybrid, Colorado State

etk
10-10-2007, 05:48 PM
Scott has Rutgers' DT Eric Foster at DE, which is a better fit for him in the NFL than DT. He's got such an excellent motor and great speed/quickness for a DL. He could also be a MLB in the NFL...

I was thinking about him as a round 5-6 Buck 3-4 ILB Prospect.

He doesn't have great speed, but he's amazing at shedding blockers, he can rush the passer. He seems to be the exact type of Buck ILB that LeBeau loves.

I think Eric Foster would be an animal as a LDE in a 4-3/Cover 2. Like you said, he's a capable pass rusher and great at shedding blockers or holding up the point of attack. I see him as a Greg Spires type.

etk
10-10-2007, 05:51 PM
Are people still sleeping on Tyson Jackson? I think he can play in either scheme, but looks like a perfect Patriots Dlinemen ala Marquise Hill and Jarvis Green(ironically enough)

Tyson Jackson is a man beast. nobody is sleeping on him. Problem is he's only a Jr. but if he declared he'd be my #1 3-4 prospect. I think he's too athletic to be compared to Marquise Hill & Jarvis Green. He's really in a class by himself, a groundbreaking talent for the position. Only Trevor Pryce is as athletic at he is (in his prime), but I may be forgetting someone.