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Sniper
10-09-2007, 01:37 PM
Welcome to the most underrated player in the country's thread! This guy is 6'3, 245, a tackling machine, and yet it seems like he still flies under the radar. Where does everyone expect him to go this year in the draft?

Season stats: 71 tackles, 5 TFL for 17 yards, 1.5 sacks for 9 yards, a pick and 2 PBU.

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Welcome to the most underrated player in the country's thread! This guy is 6'3, 245, a tackling machine, and yet it seems like he still flies under the radar. Where does everyone expect him to go this year in the draft?

Season stats: 71 tackles, 5 TFL for 17 yards, 1.5 sacks for 9 yards, a pick and 2 PBU.

I think unless he puts up a good 40 time he's going to fall.

He's basically everything you want in a MLB.. but he's supposed to be running a near 4.9 40'.

Which is why Brandon Miller of Georgia is likely to not be drafted.. he's supposed to run a 5.02.

I think Leman will be a 4th-5th.

Sniper
10-09-2007, 01:42 PM
I think unless he puts up a good 40 time he's going to fall.

He's basically everything you want in a MLB.. but he's supposed to be running a near 4.9 40'.

Which is why Brandon Miller of Georgia is likely to not be drafted.. he's supposed to run a 5.02.

I think Leman will be a 4th-5th.

4.9? Really? Wow. He looks much quicker on tape.

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 01:47 PM
4.9? Really? Wow. He looks much quicker on tape.

I've been told that's his best spring 40'.. about a 4.87-4.91

He looks great on tape and would be a great 2 down ILB.. he attacks the LOS well, but if he's really that slow, he could fall. Would probably be the best day 2 LB not named Ben Moffitt.

draftguru151
10-09-2007, 01:48 PM
Stiller where do you get all of your 40 numbers from? You list them with pretty much every player you talk about.

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 02:00 PM
I talk to scouts. One of my dad's best friends is a scout for the Steelers and he gives me a full on pre-season scouting form with the guys Spring 40's and some Pros/cons of them.

ironman4579
10-09-2007, 02:10 PM
I talk to scouts. One of my dad's best friends is a scout for the Steelers and he gives me a full on pre-season scouting form with the guys Spring 40's and some Pros/cons of them.

That must be pretty nice.

VoteLynnSwan
10-09-2007, 02:15 PM
I think he's gonna be an excellent pro, he may not have great speed, but he plays faster than he times, and it a football player. I'd love to see him on the Bears, although he likely wouldn't have a spot.

CARDIAC CAT 7
10-09-2007, 04:09 PM
I will give you J Leman my only issue with him was his coverage when hes against TE's and backs but he has done excellent, definitly the most talented blue collar player this year.

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 04:17 PM
That must be pretty nice.

It's cool. We talk for about 2 hours saturday night. I should be able to get a job as a scout for the Steelers here in about 2 years.

B-Dawk
10-09-2007, 04:31 PM
If Schlegel can find his way onto day one I'm sure Leman can too

Woody56
10-09-2007, 04:40 PM
Tatupu is having a great NFL career so far, even though he is a 4.8 guy.

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 04:44 PM
Tatupu is having a great NFL career so far, even though he is a 4.8 guy.

He also had a great explosion.

He ran his 20 yard and 10 yard as fast as Alfred Fincher who ended up with a 4.68.

both had 2.73 and 1.63 20' and 10 yard respectively.

I'm not doubting Lemans ability but a lot of it will depend on his triangle #'s. He comes in under 4.8 and he should be a day 1 pick..

over and he could slide to round 4-5.

Especially with Ben Moffitt rising.

stephenson86
10-09-2007, 05:03 PM
scott has him as a 4 80

Mr. Stiller
10-09-2007, 05:12 PM
scott has him as a 4 80

I believe Scott approximates his.

TACKLE
10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
This is a guy who'll run a bad forty time. He'll fall to the third round and then he'll become a starter by the end of the of the season. He'll get ten tackles a game and everybody is going to be wondering, where the hell did this guy come form. All steak, no sizzle.


btw Does he have a first name?

SuperKevin
10-09-2007, 08:34 PM
This is a guy who'll run a bad forty time. He'll fall to the third round and then he'll become a starter by the end of the of the season. He'll get ten tackles a game and everybody is going to be wondering, where the hell did this guy come form. All steak, no sizzle.


btw Does he have a first name?

Jeremy I think

VoteLynnSwan
10-09-2007, 08:38 PM
This is a guy who'll run a bad forty time. He'll fall to the third round and then he'll become a starter by the end of the of the season. He'll get ten tackles a game and everybody is going to be wondering, where the hell did this guy come form. All steak, no sizzle.


btw Does he have a first name?

it'd be sweet if his name was just J

Wootylicous
10-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Jeremy I think

Jeremy Jacob Leman :)

toonsterwu
10-09-2007, 09:37 PM
He's a nice 2-down mike backer in the 4-3. Maybe a decent strongside 4-3 LB. He'd be a 3-4 ILB project. At best, I think he's looking like 3rd round, at worst, don't be surprised if he falls. How much better is Leman than, say, Kai Parham was at UVA? Parham did run a piss poor time, so I don't expect Leman to tumble out of the draft, but I could see him going mid-late day 2 if he pulls in a poor time, which is something a lot of people seem to be anticipating. That said, you look at some of the 3-4 teams, and he might be a very intriguing guy in day 2. I don't know what his lateral quickness estimates are, but if they are decent enough, that could stem a fall.

Freddy G
10-09-2007, 09:43 PM
I love this guy and i think his best fit is at SILB in a 3-4 where he can play down hill and around the LOS where he excells, whereas he is a liability in coverage. I see him as a bigger slightly slower Paul Posluszny type guy or maybe a poor man's James Farrior/Gerald Hayes...idk lol.

Also, the guy making that defense work, Chris Norwell, is the equivalent at DT. Underrated, but tough, mean, productive and is just a football player. I see him also making a 3-4 team very happy as a DE.

Leman: late 3-5 rounds
Norwell: 5-7 range

etk
10-09-2007, 09:59 PM
Leman is closer to 6'2 240, but he does have ideal stats and measurables outside of his speed (or lack thereof). His lack of speed will prevent him from being a highly-rated prospect, but I doubt it will prevent him from being a serviceable starter. Think of him as closer to Jeremiah Trotter than Anthony Schlegel. He can close downhill on backs or receivers in the passing game, he's just a little stiff when it comes to COD.

underscore
10-10-2007, 06:18 AM
Leman's the type of guy that will have awful workout numbers, will get drafted late, but still have a productive NFL career.

Caddy
10-10-2007, 06:55 AM
Leman's the type of guy that will have awful workout numbers, will get drafted late, but still have a productive NFL career.

Those sort of players are an rarity in the NFL.