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04-02-2006, 01:11 PM
Who will win this years NBA MVP award? Remember this goes to the player that not only has good stats, but makes his whole team better. This isnt most valuable scorer award.



Points
Nash - 19.5
James - 31.4
Wade - 27.9
Kobe - 34.7

Rebounds
Nash - 4.3
James - 7.2
Wade - 5.8
Kobe - 5.3

Assist
Nash - 10.5
James - 6.7
Wade - 6.8
Kobe - 4.6

Steals
Nash - .75
James - 1.57
Wade - 1.88
Kobe - 1.79

Blocks
Nash - .17
James - .88
Wade - .79
Kobe - .42

FG%
Nash - .515
James - .478
Wade - .497
Kobe - .443

FT%
Nash - .925
James - .741
Wade - .784
Kobe - .853

3P%
Nash - .439
James - .336
Wade - .176
Kobe - .338

Minutes Per Game
Nash - 35.9
James - 43.0
Wade - 39.0
Kobe - 41.1



Stave Nash?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_nash/index.html?nav=page

Lebron James?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron_james/index.html?nav=page

Dwyane Wade?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwyane_wade/index.html?nav=page

Kobe Bryant?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/index.html?nav=page

Other? specify


IMO its a tight race, I heard ESPN say that if the Cavs can get 50 wins, meaning a finish of 7-3 (against only3 winning teams outta the last 10), Lebron could win it. Nash is looking great this year again, but his team is struggling of late, and his overall team isnt as good as last year without Staudmire. Kobe is good, but the Lakers arent great, worse than Suns, Heat, and Cavs. He is a ball hog to alot of people, not a great team leader, and has the WORSTE FG%, which says alot IMO. Wade is great but how much of it is because of Shaq? Wade continues to get better every week. Him and Lebron are the next Larry Bird and Magic Johnson Rivalry and it would only help the NBA if they would recognize this fact.

Jimmy
04-02-2006, 01:17 PM
its no question- kobe.. where would the lakers be without him? nowhere. he is the most valuble player for his team because without him the lakers would be the worst team in teh league. not the case with the other 4-5

04-02-2006, 01:21 PM
Without Lebron the cavs are horrible.

Without Wade the heat still win

Without Kobe, they are horrible

Without Nash they are still good, but not great.

With Kobe the Lakers still arent great, thats why Kobe isnt MVP.

HawkeyeFan
04-02-2006, 01:23 PM
its no question- kobe.. where would the lakers be without him? nowhere. he is the most valuble player for his team because without him the lakers would be the worst team in teh league. not the case with the other 4-5

Tobzilla
04-02-2006, 01:26 PM
Without Lebron the cavs are horrible.

Without Wade the heat still win

Without Kobe, they are horrible

Without Nash they are still good, but not great.

With Kobe the Lakers still arent great, thats why Kobe isnt MVP.

Steve Nash is the glue that holds the Suns together. We know you like LeBron but try to get past your homerism for a second. LeBron will win MVP's, but not this year.

Scotty D
04-02-2006, 01:45 PM
Chuancey Billups

04-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Steve Nash is the glue that holds the Suns together. We know you like LeBron but try to get past your homerism for a second. LeBron will win MVP's, but not this year.

The suns were GREAT last year and alot of that was because of Nash, but alot was also Amare. Without Amare this year, they are a good team, but nowhere near last years.

Thats why I think it is ard for Nash to win again.

But hes most likely the favorite at this point.

When Lebron plays point gaurd, NOT SF, it isnt hard for him to get 8-10 assist a game eather though.



Steve Nash is the glue that holds the Suns together

Sorry buddy, but you can say the same thing about...
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnet
Eltin Brand
Allen Iverson
Gilbert Arenas
Dirk Nowitski
Lebron James
etc......

Nash is good for his team, but his team will still win games if he is hurt.

draftguru151
04-02-2006, 03:02 PM
Dwayne Wade. He is no werse than 2nd in all but three of those stats (FT%, 3PT%, Mins, the three least important ones). Shaq has been hurt a bunch this year and if Wade isn't on this team, the Heat don't have a winnning record. The Heat are constantly down by 10+ at halftime and then Wade takes over and wins the game in the last few seconds. Other than Shaq no one on the team scores consistently. If you guys watched the Heat vs Cavs game, the last 5 minutes there were 3 or 4 guys scoring for the Cavs, and Wade was the only one for the Heat. Lebron is putting up some sick numbers, but for most of the season he falls apart at the end of games. Kobe's team can't win w/o him, but they can't win a whole lot with him either. Nash is pretty good, but I think Billups is better, and he won't win it because there is no MVP on the Pistons.

Also whenever Wade comes out the Heat get behind a sick amount, and when Alonzo Morning is on the court, the Heat are +9. Shaq is still the man, but you take Wade away from this team and they don't make the playoffs.

Scorch
04-02-2006, 03:14 PM
Steve Nash.

04-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Nash is good for his team, but his team will still win games if he is hurt.

No, they won't.

Case in point:
03-04 season, Suns without Nash: 29-53.
04-05 season, Suns with Nash: 62-20.

Nash has to win MVP again this season, Phoenix is 12.5 games over .500 and they've been without Amare Stoudemire all season. Over the past 2 seasons, Nash has played as well as any point guard I've ever seen.

Keak Thee Sneak
04-02-2006, 03:19 PM
It's either Kobe / LeBron / Dwayne as of right now for me. The way Dwayne and LeBron went at it yesterday was amazing, probably the best NBA game I've ever watched, EVER. Theres a new rivalry.. the new Magic and Bird.. LeBron and D-Wade.

On the other hand, Kobe takes the most difficult shots of anyone in the NBA due to being double and sometimes triple teamed.. his supporting cast consists of Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown.. Smush won't be good for another couple years.. it just ain't right to have Kobe on that team thats NBADL quality and he's still leading them to the playoffs.

YAYareaRB
04-02-2006, 03:26 PM
Chauncey Billups and Steve Nash are in the same boat. If either is hurt, they still got ballers on the team.

LeBron and Kobe. SAVIORS OR WHAAAAT?

04-02-2006, 03:32 PM
Chauncey Billups and Steve Nash are in the same boat. If either is hurt, they still got ballers on the team.

You couldn't be more wrong. Phoenix had it's "ballers" - Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, and Joe Johnson in 03-04, but with Stephon Marbury at the point they finished a lowly 29-53. Then, the next season Nash comes to Phoenix, with the same "ballers" and the team wins 33 more games. 33! Not a coincidence.

And without Chauncey Billups, Detroit is probably still a playoff team, but they DEFINITELY wouldn't have won an NBA championship.

04-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Case in point:
03-04 season, Suns without Nash: 29-53.
04-05 season, Suns with Nash: 62-20.


Thats not a good arguement at all.

Not only did the SUns have a different roster of players in those years, but were only discussing 2005 MVP's, not what players did durring other seasons.

04-02-2006, 03:50 PM
Case in point:
03-04 season, Suns without Nash: 29-53.
04-05 season, Suns with Nash: 62-20.


Thats not a good arguement at all.

Not only did the SUns have a different roster of players in those years, but were only discussing 2005 MVP's, not what players did durring other seasons.

Actually, you said the Suns would still win games without Nash, which is where that argument came from. The Suns didn't have much of a difference in rosters those 2 years, either. Amare was having his breakout season, and they still had Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson. The only big difference was Stephon Marbury, and not Steve Nash.

Nash is playing at an even higher level this season than last. He's single-handedly keeping the Suns at the top of the Pacific. He is the most valuable player to his team outside of Kobe, and the Suns are much better than the Lakers, which is why Nash wins.

04-02-2006, 04:09 PM
Everyone acts like Cleveland has allways been good?

They are the best this year with Lebron, since the 1991-92 season. What other MVP candidate can say theve helped there team that much?

CalBears99
04-02-2006, 04:52 PM
It's a really close race, but I'd go for Lebron James since he is the most important for his team and he has single handedly turned the Cleveland franchise around.

wiscbadgerfootball
04-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Dwayne Wade- he's my fav player

SeanTaylorRIP
04-02-2006, 05:01 PM
The Lakers and the Cavs almost have the same record and the Lakers are in the West. Plus LeBron has good big men in Z and Gooden but Kobe has Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown.

Nerv
04-02-2006, 05:05 PM
Shawn Marion. He is top 10 in about every category in the league and is one of a few 20-10 guys. Steve Nash gets all the press but Marion has been holding that team together all year, they would lose more games without Marion then without Nash. All of their bigs have been hurt all year and Marion, a 3, has been playing 4 all year and does everthing for his team.

Fogartynyy2789
04-02-2006, 05:12 PM
NBA Awards

MVP- LeBron James
Most Improved- Boris Diaw PHX
Rookie of the Year- Chris Paul
Coach of the Year- Avery Johnson

jetvilma51
04-02-2006, 05:19 PM
jason kidd he carries the nets and wins

Keak Thee Sneak
04-02-2006, 05:21 PM
when you score 81 points, you are obviously the most valuable player.



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HawkeyeFan
04-02-2006, 05:25 PM
And and who ever plays the Lakers gets Kowned ... What is Kowned you ask well its a word I just made up about 20 minutes ago meaning Kobe Owned

04-02-2006, 06:41 PM
DIRK NOWITZKI

throwback54milkman
04-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Stephon Marbury!!

DChess
04-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Bron Bron, after his game against d wade how can u not give it to him, especially if they win 50. he goes out everynight putting up sick numbers, usually 30 7 7

04-02-2006, 10:16 PM
The Lakers and the Cavs almost have the same record and the Lakers are in the West. Plus LeBron has good big men in Z and Gooden but Kobe has Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown.

Lakers = 40-35
Cavs = 44-29

Ya thats about the same record allright.

Kobe scored 81? Since when did they give the MVP away for 1 game?

Lebron has twice as many double doubles as Kobe this year, and has 6 triple doubles to Kobes 0.

Kobes shooting % is horrible for all the shots he takes, and Lebron has him beat in rebounds and assists per game.

yodabear
04-02-2006, 10:40 PM
I voted for D-Wade cuz I am a biased Heat fan, but in all seriousness, I'd pick LBJ.

Keak Thee Sneak
04-02-2006, 10:48 PM
You're forgetting how difficult the shots are that Kobe takes. He's guarded by at least 2 defenders every time he touches the ball, otherwise he gets an easy dunk it's that simple. 90 % of his shot's are on fade aways with two hands in his face.

Of course he's not gonna get as many rebounds, he's a SG / PG and LeBron's a 6'8 SF. Assists, Kobe doesn't need those he makes so many shots himself. Theres noone TO ASSIST on that team. The only one who will ever improve on that entire roster besides Kobe is SMUSH PARKER. Oh my god. Give Kobe some people to play with and it's over. Give him Shaq again! Even injured! It's OVER.

moc182
04-02-2006, 11:10 PM
Elton Brand.

HawkeyeFan
04-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Ok this is why LeBron gets assists and Kobe doesn't.

Cavaliers Top 3 Scoring Players

Lebron 31.4 ppg
Hughes 16.2 ppg
Ilgauskas 16.1 ppg

Lakers Top 3 Scoring Players

Kobe 34.7 ppg
Odom 14.7 ppg
Parker 11.4 ppg

The Cavs 3rd Highest Scoring player averages more than the Lakers 2nd. Odom is way inconsistent, he will shoot 12-20 one night and then 1-17 the next.

Parker Gets assists and will go 10-20 one night and then 1-16 the next.

Kobe is going to score. KOBE HAS TO SHOOT FOR THE LAKERS TO WIN OR THE LAKERS WOULDN'T AVERAGE 70 PPG!

04-03-2006, 12:58 AM
I think Tim Duncan needs a place on that list.

Keak Thee Sneak
04-03-2006, 01:01 AM
I think Tim Duncan needs a place on that list.

He's been horrible this season.. like 19 pts and 7 rebs a game. Elton Brand is far ahead of him, along with Marion and Nowitzki and.. basically everyone.

04-03-2006, 01:03 AM
I think Tim Duncan needs a place on that list.

He's been horrible this season.. like 19 pts and 7 rebs a game. Elton Brand is far ahead of him, along with Marion and Nowitzki and.. basically everyone.

try 19 and 11

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3173

He is also on the 2nd best team in the league

Keak Thee Sneak
04-03-2006, 01:09 AM
I think Tim Duncan needs a place on that list.

He's been horrible this season.. like 19 pts and 7 rebs a game. Elton Brand is far ahead of him, along with Marion and Nowitzki and.. basically everyone.

try 19 and 11

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3173

He is also on the 2nd best team in the league

19 and 11 will never cut it, ever.

WMD
04-03-2006, 01:10 AM
Kobe scored 81 POINTS in ONE GAME. AND he's probably going to get them to the playoffs this year? With Smush Parker as his starting PG.. and Kwame Brown as his Center..? He's easily the MVP in my book..

Keak Thee Sneak
04-03-2006, 01:14 AM
Kobe scored 81 POINTS in ONE GAME. AND he's probably going to get them to the playoffs this year? With Smush Parker as his starting PG.. and Kwame Brown as his Center..? He's easily the MVP in my book..

Shoot why not name off the entire starting line up?

PG - Smush Parker - OK he might be good in 4 years but right now he's pretty bad.

SG - Kobe.

SF - Lamar "inconsistent" Odom. Like someone pointed out above, he can have a great shooting night followed up by a horrible one. He's not agressive enough for his size and doesn't use his height to his advantage at the SF position. I don't think he'll ever improve.

PF - Brian Cook. Ok he can shoot... thats about all..

C- Kwame Brown - No explanation needed. Kwame is averaging 6 and 6 after being the first overall pick. Wow.

HawkeyeFan
04-03-2006, 01:17 AM
Next year we will be NBA chamions:)

PG Parker
SG Kobe
SF Harrington
PF Brown
C Bynum

Keak Thee Sneak
04-03-2006, 01:20 AM
I hope Bynum can vastly improve this summer because if he does he'll be nice in the post. At 7'0 and over 270, he's got some agility and if he can put it all together he might have a BREAKOUT year.. but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he only gets bench time.

WMD
04-03-2006, 01:29 AM
I'd probably go

1. Kobe
2. Nash
3. Nowitzki
4. LeBron
5. Brand
6. Chauncey
7. Wade
8. Marion

I'm sure there's one person i'm forgetting, but I don't know who.

HawkeyeFan
04-03-2006, 01:33 AM
I hope Bynum can vastly improve this summer because if he does he'll be nice in the post. At 7'0 and over 270, he's got some agility and if he can put it all together he might have a BREAKOUT year.. but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he only gets bench time.
Yep I agree. He needs to hit the weight room badly. He is 270 but has no arms. The player I think that is the best from the lakers draft last season is Ronny Turiaf. Man what a story he is and he owns every time on the court.

04-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Like I said earlier the is the MVP award.

Not show your sympothy for the player who has the worste supporting cast.

Lebron 31.4 ppg
Hughes 16.2 ppg
Ilgauskas 16.1 ppg

Lakers Top 3 Scoring Players

Kobe 34.7 ppg
Odom 14.7 ppg
Parker 11.4 ppg

Larry Hughes? Hes played like 15 games all year.

Kobes cast would have more PPG if Kobe would pass them the ball.

81 points? This is dumb - it was the greatest individual game of the year by far, but the key word was GAME, there are 81 other opportunities to make an MVP.

When Jordan scored 37 PPG, he never won MVP that year because they give it to the all around best player, not best scorer.

1.Steve Nash
2.Lebron James
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Dirk Nowitski
5.Dwayne Wade

I dont know why im argueing though, ESPN allready stated in their opinions that it is down to Lebron and Nash, so this is irrelevant.

WMD
04-03-2006, 05:32 PM
:lol: because ESPN knows all the answers.. :lol:

JPLUFF
04-03-2006, 05:35 PM
The Homer pick of the day:

Chauncey Billups.

detroit4life
04-03-2006, 08:35 PM
The Homer pick of the day:

Chauncey Billups.


call me a homer when i say chauncey deserves it but how can you deny it. Perfect example of why chauncey deserves it is the suns game where he put up 35 on nash and brought the stones back from down 17. Lebron should definitly be up there and kobe too but chauncey is leading the best team in the NBA and that says alot.

moc182
04-03-2006, 08:38 PM
I miss Andrew Bynum's myspace.

WMD
04-03-2006, 08:55 PM
Chauncey would be more regarded if the Pistons didn't start losing 'more often'... if we got to 70 wins, I think he'd definately be higher up.

04-04-2006, 08:50 PM
gotta be Kobe. Kobe has had numberous incredible games this year and have bailed out the Lakers several times this year.

04-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Anyone see Lebron and the cavs tonight? LBJ's 7th straight game with 36 pts, 8 rbs, and 6 assist.

DOMINATION! beating good teams also.

If they finish the season with 50 wins, I dont see how you cant give it to him. Hes clearly made the Cavs what they are today. Weather or not its equal to the other great players in the NBA I guess well find out.

BC88
04-04-2006, 11:31 PM
D-Wade

Namy
04-05-2006, 12:17 AM
LeBron's team has been inconsistent. They're playing great right now, but a small streak isn't going to help him get the MVP. They made the playoffs, whoop-dee-doo (btw, it's in the pathetically weak Eastern Conference). Remember, LeBron was being harshly criticized for about a 10-15 game stretch of allowing his team to lose or stinking it up in the fourth. Doing great for a mere 5-10 games cannot and should not swing the MVP vote in your favor.

My two candidates are Nash or Kobe. Sure, the Suns haven't been as good this year as last year, but what kind of argument is that??? So if Duncan lost Tony Parker and his team didn't do as great, should Duncan be penalized? Hell no! Losing a great player on your team and having a worse record is understandable. Basketball is a team game... Nash has still led his team to the 2nd seed.

Also, Kobe is playing on a worse team than LeBron (the cavs are actually a good team people... ) and still led his team to a western conference playoff birth.

Nelo Ice
04-05-2006, 12:22 AM
kobe i was at his the game when he scored 81 and thats mvp worthy to me
i am a lakers fan though... :D

HawkeyeFan
04-05-2006, 12:28 AM
Do you watch the Lakers? DO you see how often Kobe passes the ball? All the time. Every time a teamate gets theball they'll throw it to a double teamed Kobe instead of taking the open Jumper.

iworshipbender
04-05-2006, 03:10 AM
Sean May.

WMD
04-05-2006, 03:20 AM
Do you watch the Lakers? DO you see how often Kobe passes the ball? All the time. Every time a teamate gets theball they'll throw it to a double teamed Kobe instead of taking the open Jumper.

Not to mention Kobe is a top Defender in the league too.

Vespasian
04-05-2006, 05:07 AM
I'm gonna go with my fellow Canadian, Steve Nash.

04-05-2006, 03:39 PM
My two candidates are Nash or Kobe. Sure, the Suns haven't been as good this year as last year, but what kind of argument is that??? So if Duncan lost Tony Parker and his team didn't do as great, should Duncan be penalized? Hell no! Losing a great player on your team and having a worse record is understandable. Basketball is a team game... Nash has still led his team to the 2nd seed.

Also, Kobe is playing on a worse team than LeBron (the cavs are actually a good team people... ) and still led his team to a western conference playoff birth.

So you wont penalize a guy for loosing a player, but you will praise them for not having a good player to help out? Doesnt work like that.

Your reasoning is alittle off, and your opinions seem really bias. Thank god this award is up to knowledgable people to pick.

Otherwise anyone that scores over 30 points on a horrible team would win it.

"Sure the suns havent been good, but what kind of arguement is that?"
-well if you lose a key player, and all the sudden your team isnt as good, you start to wonder if Nash is the one responsible for them being great last year.

04-05-2006, 03:42 PM
This is why Lebron is MVP, just watch this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5525587947470393016&q=lebron&pl=true

funny stuff though.

paladin
04-05-2006, 10:30 PM
This is the easiest question to answer this season. Kobe.

81.

The Lakers with Phil Jackson only could get them about 10 wins this season. Kobe had to carry them the rest of the way. Can anyone else on the Lakers carry this team the way Kobe has?

Imagine the Lakers with Phil Jackson but without Kobe. What do you get - this season's Knicks with Larry Brown.

Disclaimer - I'm not putting all of the blame on LB, most of that deservedly goes to the ownership and management groups of the team. But Larry Brown hasn't really gotten much out of what he has - and that's the responisbility of the coach.

Namy
04-05-2006, 10:53 PM
My two candidates are Nash or Kobe. Sure, the Suns haven't been as good this year as last year, but what kind of argument is that??? So if Duncan lost Tony Parker and his team didn't do as great, should Duncan be penalized? Hell no! Losing a great player on your team and having a worse record is understandable. Basketball is a team game... Nash has still led his team to the 2nd seed.

Also, Kobe is playing on a worse team than LeBron (the cavs are actually a good team people... ) and still led his team to a western conference playoff birth.

So you wont penalize a guy for loosing a player, but you will praise them for not having a good player to help out? Doesnt work like that.

Your reasoning is alittle off, and your opinions seem really bias. Thank god this award is up to knowledgable people to pick.

Otherwise anyone that scores over 30 points on a horrible team would win it.

"Sure the suns havent been good, but what kind of arguement is that?"
-well if you lose a key player, and all the sudden your team isnt as good, you start to wonder if Nash is the one responsible for them being great last year.
How am I being biased? You're the obvious one who's biased mr. "Cleveland 31"... you're evidently looking for Lebron votes and oppose anyone who doesn't see that same way.

Please read my post with objectivity before accusing me of being unknowledgeable. Also, when quoting me, quote me right. I said the Suns aren't as good w/o Amare. I DID NOT say that the Suns are NOT good... I said not AS good... quote me with right next time, k? By the way, while the SUns may not be AS good, with a whole new offensive makeup, Nash has led his team to 2nd place in the conference (western i might add), with 50+ wins. So, Nash losing Amare and his team being not as good by like 5 games, while Lebron loses Hughes and all the Cavs fans can only whine and point to LeBron's stats and a playoff birht (FINALLY IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE). Also, don't try to say that it's enough to win the MVP award for Leborn with his stats and recent streak all the same while connoting that Nash isn't the true MVP b/c his team isn't as great as last year's team without Amare.

So you wont penalize a guy for loosing a player, but you will praise them for not having a good player to help out? Doesnt work like that.

Think a little before making this comment. Kobe, on a team with basically NO help (an inconsistent Lamar Odom and an average teammate in Paker) has led his team to a 40-35 record in the West for a 7th seed placing currently. Put him in the east, and his team easily makes it to 45-50 wins.

I'm not taking anything away from Lebron man. I know he's a great great player with great great stats. But, it's not his turn for the MVP. He has more hype than anyone in the NBA, but he's not the most deserving for the MVP. He's had an amazing stretch recently, but you can't swing the MVP in favor of him because of that ONE streak. I recall him getting booed by the Cleveland fans just about a month or so before the streak?

You have a player in Kobe who not only is an offensive machine who can make the shots of highest degree of difficulty, but plays great defense as well. When you play the Lakers you gameplan only for Kobe. When you gameplan for the Cavs, your focus is Lebron, but you must account for Ilgauskus (all star quality), Damon Jones (consistent 3 threat), good solid players in Drew Gooden, Marshall, and Murray.

Thank god we don't have people of great bias deciding the MVP either :roll:

04-06-2006, 03:03 PM
How am I being biased? You're the obvious one who's biased mr. "Cleveland 31"... you're evidently looking for Lebron votes and oppose anyone who doesn't see that same way.

Your an Idiot.

I voted for Steve Nash, and said in an earlier post, he was my favorite to win.

I love Lebron like most other people, but if the NBA didnt want high schools in there league, why would they give a 21 year old MVP???

Lebron has the next 15 years to win the award and is not yet a finished product.

He needs to practice his free throws, dribbling in traffic, deffense and others to name a few before hes the league MVP.

The arguement was, he is the only player toehr than Oscar Robertson, Jordan, and one other (forget who) to EVER avaerage 30pts, 7rebs, and possibly 7 assist per game.

Fact is he is an MVP no matter if he gets the vote or not. Look what he did in the All Star game, he was even the MVP then over all the top stars for a reason. He outplayed everyone and was most valuable to his team then.

04-06-2006, 03:05 PM
Put him in the east, and his team easily makes it to 45-50 wins.

The Lakers have a loosing record against teams in the east. So how would they go 45-50 wins when looking at that stat?

Do some research and give up on the bogus opinions.

steelersfan43
04-06-2006, 03:25 PM
i voted for lebron james nash has like 10 les points a game and kobe never passes he takes every shot he can

Eaglez.Fan
04-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Stevey Wonder!!!

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Whats_Hot_Page/NBA/Acheivements/Images/05NashSteveMVP.jpg

Nash is the team.

04-06-2006, 03:58 PM
Stevey Wonder!!!

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Whats_Hot_Page/NBA/Acheivements/Images/05NashSteveMVP.jpg

Nash is the team.

Yup. Loses the 2nd best player on team. Does better than last year and leads team to playoffs again. Also helped raja bell, marion and diaw to Career years.

04-07-2006, 06:12 PM
To Lebrons deffense, he is around 6-8 years younger than all of these people and is allready considered equal to there talents.

Don2118
04-08-2006, 08:33 PM
how can u not say kobe, IAM A KINGS FAN so its hard to say this but look he is carrying this team and lamar odom is running under his wing but without kobe this team would blow

P-L
04-08-2006, 09:19 PM
LeBron's team has been inconsistent. They're playing great right now, but a small streak isn't going to help him get the MVP. They made the playoffs, whoop-dee-doo (btw, it's in the pathetically weak Eastern Conference). Remember, LeBron was being harshly criticized for about a 10-15 game stretch of allowing his team to lose or stinking it up in the fourth. Doing great for a mere 5-10 games cannot and should not swing the MVP vote in your favor.

My two candidates are Nash or Kobe. Sure, the Suns haven't been as good this year as last year, but what kind of argument is that??? So if Duncan lost Tony Parker and his team didn't do as great, should Duncan be penalized? Hell no! Losing a great player on your team and having a worse record is understandable. Basketball is a team game... Nash has still led his team to the 2nd seed.

Also, Kobe is playing on a worse team than LeBron (the cavs are actually a good team people... ) and still led his team to a western conference playoff birth.

You're too contradictory. The Cavs have the 4th best record in the East. And the are 10.5 games up on the 8th seed in the East. Granted it is the East, but they are in the play-offs by a lot. It's not like they squeeked in as an 8 seed. The Lakers on the other hand are a 7 or 8 seed and barely in the play-offs. Yeah there was 10-15 games where LeBron was criticized for his 4th quarter performances, but there were 77 games in which Kobe was criticized for being selfish. In my mind it's between Nash and LeBron.

Jguarino24
04-08-2006, 09:24 PM
LeBron is not a MVP, Carmelo should get it before him

P-L
04-08-2006, 09:27 PM
LeBron is not a MVP, Carmelo should get it before him

Leading his team to a worse record and putting up worse stats is better these days?