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ljaxson
10-14-2007, 04:31 PM
DE: (in Order from Best to worst)

1.Quention Groves Auburn
2.Chris Long Virginia
3.Lawerence Jackson USC
4.Kenny Iwemba Iowa
5.Louis Holmes Arizona
6.Bruce Davis UCLA
7.Kendall Langford Hampton
8.Jameel McClain Syracuse
9.Chris Ellis V’Tech
10.Tommy Blake TCU
11.Chase Ortiz TCU
12.Wallace Gilberry Alabama
13.Cliff Averil Purdue
14.Chris Harrington Texas A&M
15.Darrell Robertson Georgia Tech
16.Cory Muse Southern Methodist
17.Jonal Saint-Dic Michigan St.
18.Dorian Smith Oregon St.
19.Rudolph Hardie Howard
20.Eric Foster Rutgers
21.Martail Burnett Utah
22.Kurt Hout Ferris St.
23.Antino Reynolds Tennessee
24.Adam Oliver Georgia Tech
25.Keith Saunders Alabama
26.Angelo Craig Cincinnati
27. Brain Johnston Gardner-Webb
28.Jeff Van Orsow Oregon St
29.Trevor Scott Buffalo
30.Tyler Clutts Fresno St.
31.Chris McKillop Pittsburg
32.Rob Jackson Kansas
33.Jeremy Gibbs Oregon
34.Jeremy Thompson Wake Forest
35.Xavier Mitchell Tennessee
36.Alex Boston Florida St.
37.Craig Mester Miami (OH)
38.Bryan Mattison Iowa
39.Johnny Dingle WVU
40.Dexter Manley Jr. Oregon
41.Ervin Bladwin Michigan St.
42.Nate Peterson Oklahoma St.
43.Titus Brown Mississippi
44.Greyson Gunheim Washington
45.Mitch King Iowa
46.Matt Kroul Iowa
47.Joe Rudulph X-Oregon St.
48.Anthony Hoke Cincinnati


Juniors:
1.Calaias Campbell Miami
2.Tyson Jackson LSU
3.Derrick Harvey Florida
4.Vernon Gholston Ohio St.
5.Phillip Merling Clemson
6.Geogre Selvie USF
7.Antawian Robinson Arkansas
8.Kyle Moore USC
9.Jerry Fitzgerald Virginia
10.Larry English Northern Illinois
11.Ian Campbell Kansas St.
12.Albert McClellan Marshall
13.Lawerence Wilson Ohio St.
14.Marcus Hands E.Carolina
15.Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin
16.Tim Jamison Michigan
17.Derek Walker Illinois
18.Jeremy Geathers UNLV
19.Jamal Westermen Rutgers
20.Victor Butler Oregon St.
21.Nick Reed Oregon


NOTES: (SENIORS)
Tommy Blake-Has Dropped alot because of his poor play so far this year...but have kept him in the top 10 because of his potential.
Jonal Saint-Dic-Has Poor mesurables but reminds me of a Dwight Freeney/Elvis Dumervil type player and has rose his stock alot by Rushing the passer and is one of the top sackers in the nation..
Jeremy Gibbs-has had a pretty good year but i could see him as a DT in a 4-3 Defense and a DE in a 3-4 thats why he is pretty low on the list.

foozball
10-14-2007, 04:34 PM
as awesome as selvie is, he's just a soph

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 04:36 PM
Wasn't he redshirted?Or Not?

foozball
10-14-2007, 04:44 PM
yea but its a pipedream to think he's coming out

SeanTaylorRIP
10-14-2007, 04:55 PM
As pro prospects no way Groves is #1, and Fitzgerald is a soph.

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Well For me it was between Jackson,Groves or Long and i like Groves the best he really impresses me when he plays way more then Long and Jackson....and my mistake on Fitzgerald

darnik44two
10-14-2007, 05:07 PM
Here's mine, underclassmen included...

01 Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
02 Chris Long, DE/DT, Virginia
03 Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn
04 Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*
05 Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson*
06 Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida
07 Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, Texas Christian
08 Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, Southern California
09 Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
10 Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State*
11 Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
12 Louis Holmes, DE, Arizona
13 Bruce Davis, DE, UCLA
14 Eric Foster, DE/DT, Rutgers
15 Matt Schaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin*
16 Ian Campbell, DE/OLB, Kansas State*
17 Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa
18 Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
19 Chase Ortiz, DE, Texas Christian
20 Adamm Oliver, DE, Georgia Tech

SuperKevin
10-14-2007, 05:28 PM
Here's mine, underclassmen included...

01 Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
02 Chris Long, DE/DT, Virginia
03 Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn
04 Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*
05 Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson*
06 Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida
07 Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, Texas Christian
08 Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, Southern California
09 Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
10 Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State*
11 Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
12 Louis Holmes, DE, Arizona
13 Bruce Davis, DE, UCLA
14 Eric Foster, DE/DT, Rutgers
15 Matt Schaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin*
16 Ian Campbell, DE/OLB, Kansas State*
17 Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa
18 Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
19 Chase Ortiz, DE, Texas Christian
20 Adamm Oliver, DE, Georgia Tech

I like these better than the original posters'

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 06:02 PM
Here's mine, underclassmen included...

01 Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
02 Chris Long, DE/DT, Virginia
03 Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn
04 Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*
05 Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson*
06 Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida
07 Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, Texas Christian
08 Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, Southern California
09 Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
10 Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State*
11 Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
12 Louis Holmes, DE, Arizona
13 Bruce Davis, DE, UCLA
14 Eric Foster, DE/DT, Rutgers
15 Matt Schaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin*
16 Ian Campbell, DE/OLB, Kansas State*
17 Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa
18 Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
19 Chase Ortiz, DE, Texas Christian
20 Adamm Oliver, DE, Georgia Tech


Tyson and Lawerence Jackson are low and so is Kenny Iwebema...

etk
10-14-2007, 06:05 PM
Tyson and Lawerence Jackson are low and so is Kenny Iwebema...

I agree, Tyson and Iwebema are way too low, and McClain is absent!?!

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 06:07 PM
Anyone you think should bre added

etk
10-14-2007, 06:10 PM
Anyone you think should bre added

On your list? Ervin Baldwin, Michigan State.

foozball
10-14-2007, 06:11 PM
tommy blake's stock has got to take a hit, no way he's #7. i think tyson jackson should be ahead of langford, even though his numbers might not be as good, he's got better measurables and plays in the SEC as opposed to I-AA

1- Calais Campbell
2- Chris Long
3- Quentin Groves
4- Vernon Gholston
5- Derrick Harvey
6- Phillip Merling
7- Lawrence Jackson
8- Tyson Jackson
9- Tommy Blake
10-Kendall Langford

Jonny
10-14-2007, 06:14 PM
I think Eric Foster stays inside at DT in the NFL as a pass rusher. Darryl Tapp is the only real NFL DE I can think of with a similar height.

etk
10-14-2007, 06:17 PM
I think Eric Foster stays inside at DT in the NFL as a pass rusher. Darryl Tapp is the only real NFL DE I can think of with a similar height.

I think Foster is perfect for LDE, where shortness can be advantageous.

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 06:18 PM
Just Like Saint-Dic,Dumervil and Freeney

etk
10-14-2007, 06:22 PM
Just Like Saint-Dic,Dumervil and Freeney

I'm pretty sure Dumervil, Freeney & Tapp are all RDEs (pass rushers). Foster is more of a Greg Spires type.

ljaxson
10-14-2007, 06:30 PM
It doesnt matter what side does it?

Jonny
10-15-2007, 02:33 AM
Yeah it does. Left ends are usually the "power" ends. They line up across from the RT, on the strong side so they will get chipped by a TE.

I didn't think of Freeney or Dumervil just because their games are so dissimilar to Foster's.

fenikz
10-15-2007, 02:43 AM
Campbell (4-3 DE)
Groves (3-4 OLB /4-3 DE)
Long (3-4 DE / 4-3 UT/DE)
Harvey (3-4 OLB / 4-3 DE)
Gholston (3-4 OLB/ 4-3 DE)
L. Jackson (4-3 DE)
T. Jackson (4-3 DE / 3-4 DE)
Blake (3-4 OLB/ 4-3 DE)
Merling (4-3 DE)
Langford (4-3 DE/DT / 3-4 DE)

thats would be my top 10

Mr. Stiller
10-15-2007, 12:17 PM
I still think Eric Foster could become a very very solid 3-4 Buck ILB.

His ability to shed blocks and make plays in the backfield. Likely a 2-down ILB but could be one of the best.

has 6 years experience at ILB (2 College, 4 HS) and with his motor/ability at DT in college, he should be a very effective run stopper and pass rusher from the interior in the pro's.

As for a Comparison to Foster...

LaMarr Woodley?

Similar size (6'1 260-270lbs) Both solid at pass rushing and being disruptive behind the LOS.

ljaxson
10-15-2007, 12:37 PM
What do you think Louis Holmes will play?

Mr. Stiller
10-15-2007, 01:09 PM
What do you think Louis Holmes will play?

I think he's strictly a 3-4 or 4-3 DE. He could possibly play OLB but would be a liability against the pass.

Another guy I like as a DT playing 3-4 LB is..

Jason Jones of Eastern Michigan. Their Strongest Defensive lineman playing NT in a 4-3..

6'5 267lbs 4.70 40'. He could play ILB or OLB.

CARDIAC CAT 7
10-15-2007, 03:25 PM
Seniors:

1. Chris Long , Virginia
2. Lawrence Jackson , USC
3. Titus Brown , Mississippi State EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP HATING ON HIM, HE'S THIS YEARS DEMARCUS WARE!!!
4. Quentin Groves , Auburn
5. Kenny Iwebema , Iowa
6. Wallace Gilberry , Alabama
7. Jonal Saint-Dic , Michigan State
8. Kendall Langford , Hampton
9. Bruce Davis , UCLA
10. Louis Holmes , Arizona

Juniors:

1. Calais Campbell , Miami (FL)
2. Tyson Jackson , LSU
3. Derrick Harvey , Florida
4. Vernon Gholston , Ohio State
5. Antwain Robinson , Arkansas

Sophmores:

1. George Selvie , USF
2. Jeffrey Fitzgerald , Virginia
3. Peanut Whitehead , Louisville

Xiomera
10-15-2007, 04:05 PM
Brandon Graham = God . . . he's only a sophomore though

Jonny
10-15-2007, 04:32 PM
Foster never played ILB in college.

We thought Ryan Neill might play ILB in the pros but he didn't really have the speed for it. You need more than a quick first step there. So I don't think it's a good idea, he needs to rush the passer.