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NYGibril28
10-18-2007, 05:20 PM
In terms of an NFL Prospect (only 5 for Freshman)

Quarterbacks

Seniors
1. Andre Woodson, Kentucky
2. Matt Ryan, Boston College
3. Brian Brohm, Louisville
4. Erik Ainge, Tennessee
5. Josh Johnson, San Diego
6. Chad Henne, Michigan
7 Colt Brennan, Hawaii
8 Dennis Dixon, Oregon
9 John David Booty, USC
10. Sam Keller, Nebraska

Juniors
1. Chase Daniel, Missouri
2. Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
3. Nate Longshore, California
4. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech
5. Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State
6. Curtis Painter, Purdue
7. John Parker Wilson, Alabama
8. Willie Tuitama, Arizona
9. Mike Teel, Rutgers
10. Bobby Reid, Oklahoma State

Sophomores
1. Colt McCoy, Texas
2. Tim Tebow, Florida
3. Ryan Perrilloux, LSU
4. Mark Sanchez, USC
5. Matt Grothe, South Florida
6. Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
7. Matthew Stafford, Georgia
8. Josh Freeman, Kansas State
9. Riley Skinner, Wake Forest
10. Juice Williams, Illinois

Freshmen
1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Ryan Mallett, Michigan
3. Jimmy Claussen, Notre Dame
4. Jake Locker, Washington
5. Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech

Running Backs

Seniors
1. Mike Hart, Michigan
2. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech
3. Allen Patrick, Oklahoma
4. Dantrell Savage, Oklahoma State
5. Cory Boyd, South Carolina
6. Ryan Torain, Arizona State
7. Chris Johnson, East Carolina
8. Rafael Little, Kentucky
9. Justin Forsett, California
10. Calvin Dawson, Louisiana-Monroe

Juniors
1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas
2. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
3. Jamaal Charles, Texas
4 James Davis, Clemson
5. Steve Slaton, West Virginia
6. Felix Jones, Arkansas
7. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
8 Ray Rice, Rutgers
9. Ian Johnson, Boise State
10. Branden Ore, Virginia Tech

Sophomores
1. Chris Wells, Ohio State
2. C.J. Spiller, Clemson
3. Mike Goodson, Texas A&M
4. P.J. Hill, Wisconsin
5. Javarris James, Miami (FL)
6. LaMarcus Coker, Tennessee
7. Keiland Williams, LSU
8. C.J. Gable, USC
9. Damion Fletcher, Southern Miss
10. Chris Brown, Oklahoma

Freshmen
1. LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh
2. Graig Cooper, Miami (FL)
3. Demarco Murray, Oklahoma
4. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
5a. Mike Ford, South Florida
5b. Noel Devine, West Virginia
5c. Joe McKnight, USC

Wide Receivers

Seniors
1. Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
2. Early Doucet, LSU
3. Limas Sweed, Texas
4. Harry Douglas, Louisville
5. Keenan Burton, Kentucky
6. DJ Hall, Alabama
7. Andre Caldwell, Florida
8. Dorien Bryant, Purdue
9. Will Franklin, Missouri
10. Jordy Nelson, Kansas State

Juniors
1. DeSean Jackson, California
2. Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
3. Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
4. James Hardy, Indiana
5. Mario Urrutia, Louisville
6. Jaison Williams, Oregon
7. Mario Manningham, Michigan
8. Brian Robiskie, Ohio State
9. Derrick Williams, Penn State
10. Patrick Turner, USC

Sophomores
1. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
2. Percy Harvin, Florida
3. Brandon LaFell, LSU
4. Vidal Hazelton, USC
5. Greg Mathews, Michigan
6. Oderick Turner, Pittsburgh
7. Kenny Britt, Rutgers
8. Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina
9. Adron Tennell, Oklahoma
10. Aaron Kelly, Clemson

Freshmen
1. Arrelious Benn, Illinois
2. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
3. Ahmad Paige, Tennessee
4. Terrance Toliver, LSU
5. Kyle Jefferson, Wisconsin

Fullbacks

Seniors
1. Peyton Hillis, Arkansas
2. Owen Schmitt, West Virginia
3. Jacob Hester, LSU
4. Chris Brown, Tennessee
5. Mike Cox, Georgia Tech

Juniors
1. Brannon Southerland, Georgia
2. Chris Pressley, Wisconsin
3. Brock Bolen, Louisville
4. Jason Cook, Mississippi
5. Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh

Sophomores
1. Allen Bradford, USC
2. Jerrell Mabry, Miami (FL)
3. Rashawn Jackson, Virginia
4. Brandon King, Duke
5. Cordera Eason, Mississippi

Freshmen
1. Stanley Havili, USC
2. Charles Clay, Tulsa
3. Quentin Castille, Nebraska

Tight Ends

Seniors
1. Fred Davis, USC
2. Martin Rucker, Missouri
3. John Carlson, Notre Dame
4. Jacob Tamme, Kentucky
5. Craig Stevens, California
6. Joe Jon Finley, Oklahoma
7. Joey Haynos, Maryland
8. Dustin Keller, Purdue
9. Brad Cottam, Tennessee
10. Darrell Strong, Pittsburgh

Juniors
1. Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M
2. Chase Coffman, Missouri
3. Travis Beckum, Wisconsin
4. Cornelius Ingram, Florida
5. Darius Hill, Boise State
6. Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss
7. Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State
8. Logan Paulsen, UCLA
9. Rory Nicol, Ohio State
10. Anthony Harrison, Louisiana Tech

Sophomores
1. Jermichael Finley, Texas
2. Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
3. Andrew Quarless, Penn State
4. Jeff Cumberlan, Illinois
5. Cody Slate, Marshall
6. Sam Wheeler, Virginia Tech
7. Dennis Pita, BYU
8. Konrad Reuland, Notre Dame
9. Brandon Warren, Florida State
10. Gabe McKenzie, Auburn

Freshmen
1. Aaron Hernandez, Florida
2. Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
3. Martell Webb, Michigan
4. Mitch Joseph, LSU
5. Mike Ragone, Notre Dame

Offensive Tackles

Seniors
1. Jake Long, Michigan
2. Sam Baker, USC
3. Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
4. Tony Hills, Texas
5. Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
6. Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh
7. Barry Richardson, Clemson
8. Mike McGlynn, Pittsburgh
9. Duane Brown, Virginia Tech
10. John Greco, Toledo

Juniors
1. Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma
2. Ryan Clady, Boise State
3. Michael Oher, Mississippi
4. Alex Boone, Ohio State
5. Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech
6. Max Unger, Oregon
7. Lydon Murtha, Nebraska
8. Eugene Monroe, Virginia
9. Andrew Hartline, Central Michigan
10. Sean Sester, Purdue

Sophomores
1. Ciron Black, LSU
2. Andre Smith, Alabam
3. Thomas Herring, USC
4. Aleksey Lanis, UCLA
5. Eben Britton, Arizona
6. Jason Fox, Miami (FL)
7. Sam Young, Notre Dame
8. Will Barker, Virginia
9. Adam Ulatoski, Texas
10. Chris Scott, Tennessee

Freshmen
1. James Wilson, Florida
2. Tray Allen, Texas
3. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
4. Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
5. Lee Ziemba, Auburn

Guards

Seniors
1. Eric Young, Tennessee
2. Shannon Tevaga, UCLA
3. Roy Scheuning, Oregon State
4. Adam Kraus, Michigan
5. Drew Radovich, USC
6. Heath Benedict, Newberyy
7. Chris McDuffie, Clemson
8. Kirk Elder, Texas A&M
9. Andrew Crummey, Maryland
10. Kerry Brown, Appalachian State

Juniors
1. Herman Johnson, LSU
2. Jeremy Perry, Oregon State
3. Cedric Dockery, Texas
4. Chilo Rachal, USC
5. Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
6. Branden Albert, Virginia
7. Anthony Parker, Tennessee
8. Jeff Byers, USC
9. Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin
10. Alex Fletcher, Stanford

Sophomores
1. Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
2. Greg Isdaner, West Virginia
3. Joe Thomas, Pittsburgh
4. Matt Pipho, Miami (FL)
5. Michael Shumard, Texas A&M
6. Dan Doering, Iowa
7. John Jerry, Mississippi
8. Lyle Hitt, LSU
9. Eric Olsen, Notre Dame
10. Charlie Tanner, Texas

Freshmen
1. Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State
2. Carl Thomas, Florida
3. Anthony Davis, Rutgers
4. Jovon Hayes, Arizona
5. Buck Burnette, Texas

Centers

Seniors
1. Steve Justice, Wake Forest
2. Mike Pollak, Arizona State
3. Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green
4. John Sullivan, Notre Dame
5. Cody Wallace, Texas A&M
6. Doug Legursky, Marshall
7. Drew Miller, Florida
8. Jamey Richard, Buffalo
9. Kyle DeVan, Oregon State
10. Jordan Lipsey, Virginia

Juniors
1. Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
2. Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
3. Alex Mack, California
4. A.Q. Shipley, Penn State
5. Eric Wood, Louisville
6. Dumaka Atkins, Florida State
7. Brett Helms, LSU
8. Robby Felix, UTEP
9. Alex Derenthal, Temple
10. David Washington, Oklahoma State

Sophomores
1. Rafael Eubanks, Iowa
2. Josh McNeil, Tennessee
3. Justin Boren, Michigan
4. A.J. Trump, Miami (FL)
5. Chris Hall, Texas
6. Barry Humphries, Clemson
7. Jim Cordle, Ohio State
8. Blake Kerley, Arizona
9. Kenny Alfred, Washington State
10. Danny Franks, Troy

Freshmen
1. Ryan Pugh, Auburn
2. Kris O'Dowd, USC
3. David Molk, Michigan
4. Connor Smith, Ohio State
5. Ryan McMahon, Florida State

Defensive Ends

Seniors
1. Chris Long, Virginia
2. Quentin Groves, Auburn
3. Lawrence Jackson, USC
4. Darrell Robertson, Georgia Tech
5. Chris Ellis, Virginia Tech
6. Bruce Davis, UCLA
7. Kenny Iwebema, Iowa
8. Wallace Gilberry, Alabama
9. Kendall Langford, Hampton
10. Chris Harrington, Texas A&M

Juniors
1. Calais Campbell, Miami (FL)
2. Derrick Harvey, Florida
3. Tyson Jackson, LSU
4. Vernon Gholston, Ohio State
5. Philip Merling, Clemson
6. Ian Campbell, Kansas State
7. Antwain Robinson, Arkansas|
8. Tim Jamison, Michigan
9. Lawrence Wilson, Ohio State
10. Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin

Sophomores
1. George Selvie, South Florida
2. Jeffrey Fitzgerald, Virginia
3. Everette Brown, Florida State
4. Deantwan Whitehead, Louisville
5. Greg Hardy, Mississippi
6. Corey Wootton, Northwestern
7. Brandan Graham, Michigan
8. Jermaine Cunningham, Florida
9. Maurice Evans, Penn State
10. Eric Norwood, South Carolina

Freshmen
1. Everson Griffen, USC
2. Martez Wilson, Illinois
3. Carlos Dunlap, Florida
4. Clifton Geathers, South Carolina
5. Eddie Jones, Texas

Defensive Tackles

Seniors
1. Glenn Dorsey, LSU
2. Sedrick Ellis, USC
3. Demario Pressley, N.C. State
4. Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina
5. Red Bryant, Texas A&M
6. Dre Moore, Maryland
7. Frank Okam, Texas
8. Maurice Murray, New Mexico State
9. Trevor Laws, Notre Dame
10. Andre Fluellen, Florida State

Juniors
1. Fili Moala, USC
2. Demonte Bolden, Tennessee
3. Roy Miller, Texas
4. Marlon Favorite, LSU
5. Myron Pryor, Kentucky
6. Terrance Taylor, Michigan
7. Jason Chapman, Wisconsin
8. Jeff Owens, Georgia
9. Darryl Richard, Georgia Tech
10. Matt Kroul, Iowa

Sophomores
1. Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn
2. DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma
3. Al Woods, LSU
4. Cameron Elisara, Washington
5. Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
6. Vince Oghobasse, Duke
7. Ekm Udofia, Stanford
8. Kendrick Stewart, Florida State
9. Averell Spicer, USC
10. Kade Weston, Georgia

Freshmen
1. Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
2. Marvin Austin, North Carolina
3. Kendrick Ellis, South Carolina
4. Simi Fili, Oregon
5. Torrey Davis, Florida

Outside Linebackers

Seniors
1. Keith Rivers, USC
2. Ali Highsmith, LSU
3. Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech
4. Shawn Crable, Michigan
5. Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky
6. Ezra Butler, Nevada
7. Jordan Dizon, Colorado
8. Nick Watkins, Clemson
9. Alvin Bowen, Iowa State
10. Curtis Gatewood, Vanderbilt

Juniors
1. Brian Cushing, USC
2. Erin Henderson, Maryland
3. Sean Lee, Penn State
4. Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida
5. Geno Hayes, Florida State
6. Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
7. Maurice Crum, Notre Dame
8. Anthony Heygood, Purdue
9. Zach Follett, California
10. Steve Davis, Minnesota

Sophomores
1. Gerald McRath, Southern Miss
2. Sergio Kindle, Texas
3. Rico McCoy, Tennessee
4. Tray Blackmon, Auburn
5. Marcus Ball, Florida State
6. Reggie Carter, UCLA
7. Alex Albright, Boston College
8. Patrick Lavine, Oklahoma State
9. Elijah Hodge, Wisconsin
10. Caleb Bostic, Miami (OH)

Freshmen
1. Chris Donald, Tennessee
2. Manny Abreu, Rutgers
3. J'Courtney Williams, Virginia
4. Lorenzo Edwards, Florida
5. Tyler Nielsen, Iowa

Inside Linebackers

Seniors
1. Dan Connor, Penn State
2. Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
3. Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech
4. Beau Bell, UNLV
5. J Leman, Illinois
6. Vince Hall, Virginia Tech
7. Ben Moffitt, South Florida
8. Tavares Gooden, Miami (FL)
9. JoLonn Dunbar, Boston College
10. Red Keith, Central Michigan

Juniors
1. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
2. Rey Maulaluga, USC
3. Darry Beckwith, LSU
4. Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma
5. Jerod Mayo, Tennessee
6. Derek Nicholson, Florida State
7. Ronnie Palmer, Arizona
8. Dave Philstin, Maryland
9. Antonio Appleby, Virginia
10. Rashad Bobino, Texas

Sophomores
1. Darryl Sharpton, Miami (FL)
2. Prince Hall, Alabama
3. Brandon Spikes, Florida
4. Micah Johnson, Kentucky
5. Jacob Cutrera, LSU
6. Joe Pawelek, Baylor
7. Vincent Rey, Duke
8. Boris Lee, Troy
9. Anthony Lewis, Texas A&M
10. Phillip Dillard, Nebraska

Freshmen
1. Chris Galippo, USC
2. Kendall Smith, Florida State
3. Chris Colasanti, Penn State
4. Josh Byrnes, Auburn
5. Chris Strong, Mississippi

Cornerbacks

Seniors
1. Antoine Cason, Arizona
2. Mike Jenkins, South Florida
3. DeJuan Tribble, Boston College
4. Terrell Thomas, USC
5. Dwight Lowery, San Jose State
6. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State
7. Tracy Porter, Indiana
8. Jonathan Zenon, LSU
9. Chevis Jackson, LSU
10. Zackary Bowman, Nebraska

Juniors
1. Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
2. Reggie Smith, Oklahoma
3. Justin King, Penn State
4. Aqib Talib, Kansas
5. Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech
6. Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin
7. Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
8. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest
9. Mike Mickens, Cincinnati
10. Joe Burnett, South Florida

Sophomores
1. Vontae Davis, Illinois
2. Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
3. Donald Washington, Ohio State
4. Jairus Byrd, Oregon
5. Walter Thurmond, Oregon
6. Sean Smith, Utah
7. A.J. Wallace, Penn State
8. Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State
9. Bryan McCann, SMU
10. Deon Beasley, Texas

Freshmen
1. Jai Eugene, LSU
2. Eric Berry, Tennessee
3. Donovan Warren, Michigan
4. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
5. Chimdi Chekwa, Ohio State

Free Safeties

Seniors
1. Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee
2. Thomas DeCoud, California
3. Marcus Griffin, Texas
4. Quintin Demps, UTEP
5. D.J. Parker, Virginia Tech
6. Dominique Barber, Minnesota
7. Roger Williams, Florida State
8. Bobbie Williams, Bethune-Cookman
9. Darien Williams, Oklahoma
10. Joe Fields, Syracuse

Juniors
1. Kenny Phillips, Miami (FL)
2. Derek Pegues, Mississippi State
3. Nic Harris, Oklahoma
4. Chris Clemons, Clemson
5. Josh Pinkard, USC
6. Marcus McClinton, Kentucky
7. Curtis Taylor, LSU
8. Dwain Crawford, Baylor
9. Anthony Reddick, Miami (FL)
10. Trimane Goddard, North Carolina

Sophomores
1. Nate Allen, South Florida
2. Aairon Savage, Auburn
3. Quinton Andrews, West Virginia
4. Anderson Russell, Ohio State
5. Bo McNally, Stanford
6. Jordan Lake, Baylor
7. Josh Walker, San Diego State
8. Danny McCray, LSU
9. Aaron Ware, UCLA
10. Jamie Robinson, Florida State

Freshmen
1. Reshad Jones, Georgia
2. Chris Fox, Boston College
3. Michael Williams, Michigan
4. Eugene Clifford, USC
5. Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

Strong Safeties

Seniors
1. Jamar Adams, Michigan
2. Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame
3. Josh Barrett, Arizona State
4. Craig Steltz, LSU
5. Chris Horton, UCLA
6. Curtis Cutts, Central Michigan
7. Tony Joiner, Florida
8. Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas State
9. Brian Bronner, TCU
10. Marcus Watts, Kansas State

Juniors
1. Michael Hamlin, Clemson
2. Kevin Ellison, USC
3. Courtney Greene, Rutgers
4. Patrick Chung, Oregon
5. Jamario O'Neal, Ohio State
6. Jamarca Sanford, Mississippi
7. Carlton Williams, South Florida
8. Reshard Langford, Vanderbilt
9. DaJuan Morgan, N.C. State
10. D.J. Dykes, Colorado

Sophomores
1. Myron Rolle, Florida State
2. Taylor Mays, USC
3. Barry Church, Toledo
4. Larry Asante, Nebraska
5. Andre Sexton, Oklahoma State
6. Brandon Tatum, Arizona
7. Keenan Clayton, Oklahoma
8. Dorian Munroe, Florida
9. Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
10. Braxton Amy, UTEP

Freshmen
1. Chad Jones, LSU
2. Michael McNeil, Auburn
3. Nate Oliver, Ohio State
4. Major Wright, Florida
5. Quintin Banks, Georgia

Kickers

Seniors
1. Art Carmody, Louisville
2. Alexis Serna, Oregon State
3. Taylor Mehlhaff, Wisconsin
4. Brandon Coutu, Georgia
5. Jeremy Ito, Rutgers

Juniors
1. Sam Swank, Wake Forest
2. Jeff Wolfert, Missouri
3. Jordan Congdon, USC
4. Patrick Shadle, Syracuse
5. Drew Edmiston, Louisiana-Lafayette

Sophomores
1. Brett Swenson, Michigan State
2. Leigh Tiffin, Alabama
3. Joshua Shene, Mississippi
4. Hunter Lawrence, Texas
5. Aaron Pettrey, Ohio State

Freshmen
1. Wes Byrum, Auburn
2. Adi Kunalic, Nebraska
3. Alex Tejada, Arkansas
4. Thomas Weber, Arizona State
5. Daniel Lincoln, Tennessee

Punters

Seniors
1. Durant Brooks, Georgia Tech
2. Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota State
3. Ken DeBauche, Wisconsin
4. Andrew Larson, California
5. Waylon Prather, San Jose State

Juniors
1. Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
2. Ryan Succop, South Carolina
3. A.J. Trapasso, Ohio State
4. Thomas Morstead, SMU
5. Aaron Perez, UCLA

Sophomores
1. Brent Bowden, Virginia Tech
2. Zoltan Mesko, Michigan
3. Matt Dodge, East Carolina
4. Jeremy Boone, Penn State
5. Mike Brandtner, Iowa State

Freshmen
1. Ryan Shoemaker, Auburn
2. Bryan Anger, California
3. Rob Long, Syracuse
4. Chas Henry, Florida
5. Blake Clingan, Central Florida

princefielder28
10-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Put Dan LeFevour higher on that list :)

falconsrule
10-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Good list but I would have Dennis Dixon higher than that.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-18-2007, 07:34 PM
Very solid list, I'd change some things here and there but good overall.

Sniper
10-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Man that's a lot of work! Nicely done.

Couple notes...

- Woodson>Brohm
- Clausen, not Claussen. And is that more of a reputation pick because he hasn't been very good this year. Admittedly he's still a freshman
- Love where Hart is at
Really can't argue much. Nice job.

BrownsTown
10-18-2007, 09:01 PM
Put Dan LeFevour higher on that list :)

What he said.

Apriori
10-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Good lists.
In my opinion...
-There's no way Hart is the #1 Senior RB, as much as I love him. Choice is much more NFL-ready.
-Mario Manningham should probably be a few spots higher.
-Adrian Arrington deserves some mention closer to the bottom of the junior WR list
-I'm happy to see that Greg Mathews is getting some recognition.

Chaucer
10-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Just wondering, but do you seriously have enough time to watch and even semi-accurately project some of these younger players especially the tackles, centers, and guards?

I mean its hard enough to watch a game and pay attention to how their doing while also watching the other players on the field. But you some how manage to do this for every team in the nation. It amazes me.

I hope some day people just stop pulling **** out of their ass. It would make everything more respectable.

Were giraffe's antennae to sprout from your barnacled elbows, one could but weep for the pretense of a fallen chamber pot.

BrownsTown
10-18-2007, 10:04 PM
Just wondering, but do you seriously have enough time to watch and even semi-accurately project some of these younger players especially the tackles, centers, and guards?

I mean its hard enough to watch a game and pay attention to how their doing while also watching the other players on the field. But you some how manage to do this for every team in the nation. It amazes me.

I hope some day people just stop pulling **** out of their ass. It would make everything more respectable.

Were giraffe's antennae to sprout from your barnacled elbows, one could but weep for the pretense of a fallen chamber pot.

I don't know, maybe he has a DVR or knows a place to find film of games or something. I know I personally try not to comment on someone unless I've seen a decent amount of him actually playing.

And WTF is with that last part?

P-L
10-18-2007, 10:09 PM
Just wondering, but do you seriously have enough time to watch and even semi-accurately project some of these younger players especially the tackles, centers, and guards?

I mean its hard enough to watch a game and pay attention to how their doing while also watching the other players on the field. But you some how manage to do this for every team in the nation. It amazes me.

I hope some day people just stop pulling **** out of their ass. It would make everything more respectable.

Were giraffe's antennae to sprout from your barnacled elbows, one could but weep for the pretense of a fallen chamber pot.
Who are you?

Brent
10-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Who are you?
I believe he's Geoffrey Chaucer. Passed away 600 or so years and now he's back from the dead to discuss the draft.

Chaucer
10-18-2007, 10:33 PM
Who are you?

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again

Jonny
10-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Where's Kenny Britt for Rutgers at Sophomore WR?

Teel couldn't get him the ball tonight, but he's been having an amazing season.

NYGibril28
10-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Just wondering, but do you seriously have enough time to watch and even semi-accurately project some of these younger players especially the tackles, centers, and guards?

I mean its hard enough to watch a game and pay attention to how their doing while also watching the other players on the field. But you some how manage to do this for every team in the nation. It amazes me.

I hope some day people just stop pulling **** out of their ass. It would make everything more respectable.

Were giraffe's antennae to sprout from your barnacled elbows, one could but weep for the pretense of a fallen chamber pot.

A lot of it is research of draft sites, this one concluded, and a lot is my own personal assessment. Yes, I have a DVR, and I record a majority of the college games on the weekends. I have a general feel for a majority of these players but stats and physical attributes do play a part in this, especially with the younger guys. That's why I only listed five for freshman.

Green Bay Scat
10-18-2007, 11:02 PM
I must say u need to look at 2 guys, Ryan Hamiltion(FS) and DJ Moore(CB) from Vandy that are both sophs, i think DJ Moore is gonna be really good when he gets to the NFL, and although i dont think hes that fast, Hamilton has VERY GOOD pop to his hits and shows up in the right area.....just sayin cause they aint on a good team doesnt make them bad....show some love

M.O.T.H.
10-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Look into...South Carolina's

SS, Emanual Cook (So.)
CB, Captain Munnerlyn (So.)

Both should be in the top 5 of their classes, at the very least.

Also, Succop is going to be a kicker in the NFL...could be the top kicking prospect next season.

Green Bay Scat
10-18-2007, 11:54 PM
Look into...South Carolina's

SS, Emanual Cook (So.)
CB, Captain Munnerlyn (So.)

Both should be in the top 5 of their classes, at the very least.

Also, Succop is going to be a kicker in the NFL...could be the top kicking prospect next season.

Vandy is so gonna beat Scar on Saturday. GO VANDY!

M.O.T.H.
10-18-2007, 11:56 PM
Vandy is so gonna beat Scar on Saturday. GO VANDY!

Bennett is going to be a big test for the Captain...I cant wait.

kmartin575
10-19-2007, 01:18 AM
How in the world do you have John Carlson rated over Martin Rucker? Through 7 games he only has 22 receptions for 160 yards and 1 touchdown. Through only 6 games Rucker has 44 receptions for 474 yards and 3 touchdowns.

Cashmoney
10-19-2007, 02:19 AM
How in the world do you have John Carlson rated over Martin Rucker? Through 7 games he only has 22 receptions for 160 yards and 1 touchdown. Through only 6 games Rucker has 44 receptions for 474 yards and 3 touchdowns.

its not carlsons fault he doesnt have a QB to get him the ball.

Travis 24
10-19-2007, 07:34 AM
Ray Rice is better than Slaton, Jones and Stewart...He is a bull.

nhlkdog411
10-19-2007, 08:53 AM
seriously no jordy nelson? the guys been freaking dominant this season and has tremendous measurables as a 6'3'' 215 lb reciever who has a 100 dash time comparable to those of guys like reggie bush, ted ginn jr. and adrian peterson (10.5-10.6ish)

dabears10
10-19-2007, 10:30 AM
How do you have Zbikowski as the 2nd Sr. Safety. He is so bad, and I'm an Irish fan.

HoopsDemon12
10-19-2007, 10:55 AM
Thats a pretty solid list.. good job

Sniper
10-19-2007, 11:03 AM
Vandy is so gonna beat Scar on Saturday. GO VANDY!

You also said that about Georgia

goblue8888
10-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Ryan Mallett should be number 1 on the freshman QB list. He's 6ft7 260 with what many say is the strongest arm they have ever seen.

BrownsTown
10-19-2007, 12:28 PM
A few comment on the QBs.

I haven't seen him, as few people have, but apparantly Hunter Cantwell is an elite prospect. Again this is just hearsay, but he'd be higher than Harrell at least I think.

I think Tim Tebow would definately be ahead of McCoy for sophs.

Boeckman will be 24 his senior year I think. I doubt he gets drafted.

Xiomera
10-19-2007, 02:06 PM
You underrated Brandon Graham among Sophomore DE's, and Terrance Taylor is far too low among Junior DT's. Mel Kiper would agree with me there.

Chaucer
10-19-2007, 02:09 PM
Ryan Mallett should be number 1 on the freshman QB list. He's 6ft7 260 with what many say is the strongest arm they have ever seen. This is a joke right? We might as put Mallett at #1 overall QB by your logic. A bad pass from Sam Bradford has been just as impressive as anything Mallett has thrown this year.

Green Bay Scat
10-19-2007, 02:54 PM
You also said that about Georgia

must.......kill........you........


we shoulda won that game if it wasnt for that damn RB whos now a father

aposulli
10-19-2007, 03:19 PM
I really like Aaron Kelly from Clemson. He's got NFL size, adjusts and catches the ball well in traffic, breaks tackles, and has been very productive this year with a mediocre QB. I think he's better than at least 2 of the guys on your list of Juniors

ironman4579
10-19-2007, 07:56 PM
You underrated Brandon Graham among Sophomore DE's, and Terrance Taylor is far too low among Junior DT's. Mel Kiper would agree with me there.

You know, I actually just realized within the past couple of days that Graham has 7 sacks and 3 FF's this year so far? I didn't think he had that many sacks for some reason.

P-L
10-19-2007, 07:59 PM
You know, I actually just realized within the past couple of days that Graham has 7 sacks and 3 FF's this year so far? I didn't think he had that many sacks for some reason.

Yeah, I knew there was a reason that EA rated him a 99 on NCAA. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

ironman4579
10-19-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I knew there was a reason that EA rated him a 99 on NCAA. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

Beastly, of course.

wiscbadgerfootball
10-19-2007, 08:28 PM
awesome list just a few thoughts here

1. You might want to add Tyrod Taylor to the Freshman list, he seems to have quite a bit of potential.

2. I'm guessing a lot of these are under speculation (which is why Oglesby is on it?)

3. You may want to add LT Gabe Carimi from Wisconsin, he is starting as a redshirt freshman, pretty impressive IMO.

Sniper
10-19-2007, 08:35 PM
This is a joke right? We might as put Mallett at #1 overall QB by your logic. A bad pass from Sam Bradford has been just as impressive as anything Mallett has thrown this year.

Not really. How does his logic say Mallett should be #1? Bradford is a redshirt freshman, so he has more experience in the system than Mallett does. And a bad pass from Bradford is most definitely not more impressive as anything Mallett's done. Mallett beat a top 10 team in his second start.

scottyboy
10-19-2007, 08:35 PM
sooo many changes could be made with RU players:
There's no Britt at sophs??
No Underwood at juniors?
None of the RU OL make it for seniors(although lovin the Davis)
No Eric Foster love?
Greene is a FS, and there's no Girault for SS?
Ito at 5 makes me cry, he's a better passer and punter than those other four punks

weezer1195
10-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Riley Skinner- Sophomore QB Wake Forest

Led Wake to the Orange Bowl his freshman year and missed around a game and a half to a shoulder injury this year, but still has been more productive then hype williams.

BadgerMike
10-19-2007, 09:38 PM
I would add Aeron Henry CB Freshman Wisconsin to your list. He will be a good one when all said and done.

Chaucer
10-19-2007, 09:44 PM
Not really. How does his logic say Mallett should be #1? Bradford is a redshirt freshman, so he has more experience in the system than Mallett does. And a bad pass from Bradford is most definitely not more impressive as anything Mallett's done. Mallett beat a top 10 team in his second start.Mallett didn't beat anyone first off... He managed not to lose. And his opinion is based completely on Mallets ability to throw the ball long, his height, and his potential which would make him nearly the best QB in the nation.

His majesty's caravan is as compelling as your temper.

Clayton89
10-19-2007, 10:13 PM
I find it kind of hard to believe Craig Cooper is not a top 5 freshmen runningback

P-L
10-19-2007, 11:28 PM
I find it kind of hard to believe Craig Cooper is not a top 5 freshmen runningback

LeSean McCoy is a top five back as well.

underscore
10-20-2007, 07:36 AM
I'd put McCoy as the #1 FR RB

He's putting up big numbers on a very, very bad offensive team.

Giantsfan1080
10-20-2007, 10:33 AM
sooo many changes could be made with RU players:
There's no Britt at sophs??
No Underwood at juniors?
None of the RU OL make it for seniors(although lovin the Davis)
No Eric Foster love?
Greene is a FS, and there's no Girault for SS?
Ito at 5 makes me cry, he's a better passer and punter than those other four punks

I think Kenny Britt was the biggest omission out of all those guys.

MaxV
10-20-2007, 12:20 PM
Great job NYGibril28.

I do think Maurice Evans should be higher on the sophomore DE list, he has been GREAT this year.

PossumBoy9
10-20-2007, 12:21 PM
Graham Harrell's backup at Texas Tech, freshman Taylor Potts, looks like he'll end up being a nice prospect. Of all the QBs that Mike Leach has had, he's got the best chance of playing in the NFL.

He's got a great arm and prototype NFL size. He'll get two years to put up sick numbers after Harrell leaves.

cowboysforever
10-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Davis the TE/DE from Mich State is missing?

ncst8fan83
10-20-2007, 12:30 PM
Nice list. If you get a chance, check out DeAndre Morgan on NCSU. He's DaJuan's younger brother. A little light, but hits like a mack truck for a CB.

jbooshey
10-20-2007, 01:15 PM
This is a good thread so I might as well throw in some Wisconsin advice...

-When it comes to pro prospects PJ Hill is a tough read...somedays he looks like he could be a solid 3rd down back and other days you wonder if he has what it takes to impress the scouts. Keep your eye out for John Clay in the future...he got a late start at school and he ended up redshirting, but he is a guy that can run like a deer...a big deer at 6'2 220lbs.

-At wide receiver you should take notice of Kyle Jefferson who is a true frosh making some noise this year for UW. He is 6'5" 185lbs (probably skinnier than that really) but he has speed to burn.

-At tight end Travis Beckum is a freaking stud, but it is hard to list him higher than your "true" tight ends because Beckum might have to be a H-back/slot/split end type guy at his weight. Whatever he plays, he is a playmaker and really something to watch. Take notice of true Sophomore Garrett Grahamn also because he really is a better prospect than a lot of those other guys. He reminds me a lot of Owen Daniels who is now doing some good things for the Houston Texans.

-I see you have Josh Oglesby listed as a freshman, but we are going to have to wait and see on him. It seems like he will be a special lineman, but the guy to look at now who is playing is Redshirt Frosh Gabe Carimi who has done a very solid job replacing Joe Thomas. At 6'8" 292lbs and some impressive athleticism he looks to be a solid pro prospect.

-At DT Senior Nick Hayden is someone who could sneak into the top 10 for his class if he has a good workout.

- You have Elijah Hodge listed as a OLB but he plays the middle. Jonathan Casillas will be an interesting pro prospect if he puts on some more weight. Coach Bielema stated last year that Casillas is the second fastest player on the team (I'm not sure it is true, but he is fast none the less).

-Jack Ikegwuonu is underrated on your list. The guy doesn't get tested much so you don't hear his name much, but he sticks on guys like you wouldn't believe. He is very fast and with his size, he has that size/speed combo scouts drool over. Aaron Henry is another true frosh to look at for UW. He is a tall corner that actually leads the team in sacks and has all the makings of the next great UW CB.

Thanks for your list, you did one heck of a job!

JDB7821
10-20-2007, 04:47 PM
There's no way you should leave off Knowshon Moreno. He's a redshirt freshman running back for Georgia and he looks exactly like a Marion Barber clone.

Green Bay Scat
10-20-2007, 04:53 PM
I must say u need to look at 2 guys, Ryan Hamiltion(FS) and DJ Moore(CB) from Vandy that are both sophs, i think DJ Moore is gonna be really good when he gets to the NFL, and although i dont think hes that fast, Hamilton has VERY GOOD pop to his hits and shows up in the right area.....just sayin cause they aint on a good team doesnt make them bad....show some love

and what does DJ Moore do today? help vandy win with 2 key INT and also had 8 tackles. I know its like omg, vandy sucks they have no prospect, but come on, we got them. Hamilton also had 6 tackles, 1tfl and a fr.

Travis 24
10-20-2007, 07:22 PM
There's no way you should leave off Knowshon Moreno. He's a redshirt freshman running back for Georgia and he looks exactly like a Marion Barber clone.

He looks a hell of a lot faster than Barber though

TitanHope
10-20-2007, 08:12 PM
Freshmen
1. Chris Donald, Tennessee
2. Manny Abreu, Rutgers
3. J'Courtney Williams, Virginia
4. Lorenzo Edwards, Florida
5. Tyler Nielsen, Iowa

Donald is moving to DE. He lacks the speed to play LB in our defense.

Pit Bull #53
10-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Donald is moving to DE. He lacks the speed to play LB in our defense.

Wait...where did you see this at? We had him practicing at DE a little this year because of lack of bodies, but I've never seen anything that says he's moving there full time.

As far as the speed thing goes, I don't really buy that since we started Marvin Mitchell and Ryan Karl the past two years.

NYGibril28
10-21-2007, 10:14 AM
i did a little editing, hope its better

TitanHope
10-21-2007, 01:27 PM
Wait...where did you see this at?

I thought you told me... I remember seeing it on VolNation but the OP could have been mistaken. You think he's gonna remain a LB?

Pit Bull #53
10-21-2007, 01:39 PM
I thought you told me... I remember seeing it on VolNation but the OP could have been mistaken. You think he's gonna remain a LB?

Hasn't been determined yet, but he was practicing there. My money is on him staying at LB.

killa3312
10-21-2007, 08:22 PM
Brandon Spikes is a future All-Pro at ILB.

wiscbadgerfootball
10-21-2007, 08:46 PM
awesome to see Gabe Carimi and Kyle Jefferson in there :) where did Noel Devine go though?

NYGibril28
10-21-2007, 08:53 PM
awesome to see Gabe Carimi and Kyle Jefferson in there :) where did Noel Devine go though?

hes a bit undersized, while still an elite prospect, after more thought i think the five I have are more deserving, hes easily #6

Zyro_1014
10-21-2007, 09:40 PM
Woodson>>>>>>>>>>Brohm.

Im a USC fan but IMO i dont think anyone could be a better freshmen center than O'dowd lol

And also Taylor Mayes is more of a Free Safety.

MikeIsGood
10-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Wide Receivers
5. Kyle Jefferson, Wisconsin


Wow, props for giving him the recognition. He had 124 yards against Penn State, and went for over 60 with a touchdown in each game (over 40 yards on each) against Michigan State and Illinois. I think he deserves it, but it surprises me to see him make someone's list.

I see you have Gabe Carimi on the list. Number 3 Freshman OT. Nice to give him some recognition, but if there were another Wisconsin Freshman I'd be giving credit to, it's Aaron Henry. Henry is our true Freshman starting nickel, leading the team in sacks and is one of only two Badgers to get an interception so far this season. I think he's been real solid in coverage. He has a lot of Badger fans wishing he'd be one of our starting cornerbacks.

Nice lists. Good read.

Newbs24
10-22-2007, 12:10 PM
Donovan Warren is the #1 freshman CB in the nation. He will be a Top 10 CB in all of college by the middle of next year unless he gets hurt *knock on wood*. Brandon Graham is also aTop 5 DE for his class. Same goes for him as I stated for Warren. Those 2 have so much potential and are already putting it together.

scrylla
10-22-2007, 02:31 PM
You should check out Derrick Locke freshman RB for UK. Former track star turned in spectacular performances against LSU and Florida. He's gonna be a good one.

constant cough
10-22-2007, 02:41 PM
There is no reason that LSU's Richard Dickson shouldn't be on the sophomore tight end list. He deserves to at least be listed.