Soccer Thread

[TH3]

Liverpool has been bought by Tom Hicks(owner of the Texas Rangers) and George Gillett

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=407155&cc=5901

[GB12]

Yay?

[TH3]

Yay?

very big news this means 2 the major english soccer clubs have been bought by americans in the past 2 years

[Jango]

Meh, it's just a growing trend now in the premiership these days, it just enhances the gulf between the good clubs (the clubs with rich owners who can buy players and therefore sucess) and the rest of the pack, who are just fighting for the scraps.

This is **** for English football, the national team, the lower leagues, the fans, it's ********.

In a time where the Premiership is awarded £2.9 billion in TV rights, the ticket prices for us fans continue to rise.

Pure bollocks. This will be the end of the game in England, where only the rich can afford to watch a team they have no interest in. English football is losing everything English about it.

Not happy indeed.

[etk]

This says soccer thread, so here goes:

Where is Henry headed? Milan? RMad? Barca?

[UKfan]

As a Liverpool fan i can't make up my mind about this takeover. On the one hand it should help us to challenge the top 2 closer, but I'm worried about the general state of the game as Jango is.

I'm also worried about the tradition and heritage of my club. I think even fans of rivals would agree that Liverpool has a fantastic atmosphere and history that is virtually unrivalled.

I hear the new stadium may have it's naming rights sold, and that is one thing that really has depressed me. Anfield will always be the real name of our stadium and it should stay that way, if they even dare to take away the name "The Kop" from our stands, there will be an absolute uproar.

Worrying times indeed. What do you guys know of these new owners, they are saying a lot of the right things, but doesn't everyone at these types of press conferences.

We'll have to see how this develops I feel. :?

[snuff]

So emo... I guess they don't teach supply and demand in england?

[Eaglez.Fan]

We should have started a high school soccer thread :x

[Freddy G]

I can't comment on the impact to English soccer, seeing i don't live there/experience it. But in terms of america, it should only help strengthen the sport. Eventually, i think America has the capacity to accept soccer like the rest of the world has, but in order for that to happen, we must have more impact in the interational scheme specifically. Americans need to realize how big soccer is, and seeing Americans go overseas to by teams i think should say a lot, however we need some media coverage on it.

[TCU]

im glad someone talked about this, the guy who bought it or at least half Tom Hicks owns the Rangers and Stars here in DFW. And let me be the first to tell you ever Ranger and Stars fan pretty much hates the guy.

[JJJ888]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

[TCU]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

they would get no support but if you look at the bottom teams in the tables they get barly 17,000 to their games.

[JJJ888]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

they would get no support but if you look at the bottom teams in the tables they get barly 17,000 to their games.

I think they'd get plenty of support...have you seen the turn out for Man Utd's US tours? There are enough soccer fans in the US that if you brought top quality teams (not just big name players), people would go.

[TCU]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

they would get no support but if you look at the bottom teams in the tables they get barly 17,000 to their games.

I think they'd get plenty of support...have you seen the turn out for Man Utd's US tours? There are enough soccer fans in the US that if you brought top quality teams (not just big name players), people would go.

yeah people always go to these one time deals but would they show up each week?

[JJJ888]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

they would get no support but if you look at the bottom teams in the tables they get barly 17,000 to their games.

I think they'd get plenty of support...have you seen the turn out for Man Utd's US tours? There are enough soccer fans in the US that if you brought top quality teams (not just big name players), people would go.

yeah people always go to these one time deals but would they show up each week?

If they had their own team to root for with good competition, yes.

[TH3]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...

[JJJ888]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...

Exactly...the only problem would be playing schedules.

[snuff]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...Quality as in what? Good players? Who the hell is going to want to play in the MLS? And if they do it will create an all-star team making it boring.

[JJJ888]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...Quality as in what? Good players? Who the hell is going to want to play in the MLS? And if they do it will create an all-star team making it boring.

Try reading the train of thought before you start asking questions like this. We were talking about having an English Premier League team in the US.

[TH3]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...

Exactly...the only problem would be playing schedules.

I think the Latin community in the Miami area would host another team so once a year the Eruo teams make a swing to america and the american teams alternate weeks over seas and in america

[snuff]

If you put a quality top notch soccer team in the NYC area it would do fine.... the Euro immigrant community would most likely back a quality soccer team...Quality as in what? Good players? Who the hell is going to want to play in the MLS? And if they do it will create an all-star team making it boring.

Try reading the train of thought before you start asking questions like this. We were talking about having an English Premier League team in the US. He didn't quote the "train of thought" so I had no idea which he was talking about. There was also no mention of putting a Premier team here, just a top notch one. good call though.

[FunJokeshere]

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.


theres your quote for starting a premiership club in the US...good call though :roll:


as for Americans buying premiership teams...I feel bad for english soccer because if more of this happens, it will turn into the NFL or the MLB with the sport being all about money and not the sport itself...I mean look at those leagues before money became the primary issue, players stuck with teams and played just for the love of the game...but with more American interest in ownership in the Premiership I feel that in the future it may turn into what our sports are like today...which is sad IMO

[snuff]

Such an emo post... Seriously what is wrong with MLB or NFL? Not to mention there is not much different in the Premier league as it is.... The players are all about money. Even College football players have no conscience and they don't even get payed so don't blame money.

[FunJokeshere]

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the MLB or NFL...but the Premiership is a lot different than any league here...mainly because most fans of the Premiership actually have a sense of history for their teams/league as opposed to the majority of sports fans here

and yes the players in all Euro leagues for that matter are money driven, but not nearly as much as any professional players here...most players in Euro leagues make a majority of their money in sponsorship and advertising not from clubs themselves...and when players do leave teams for more money its to another league not to a rival team (Adam Vinatieri..sp?)...granted theres only one real pro league for our sports but still

and I don't care if you think it is emo that its a shame that the capitalism and greed from America is spreading to other previously barely American-influenced sports in other countries

[snuff]

What do you mean more history? I think your insane... People on here are just to young, that is why the history is the way it is. There is no different outside the age of some teams.

As for the changing to rival's... It doesn't happen all the often and it probably happens in the English premier league, but you just don't follow it close enough or something.

How about Ashley Cole or Michael Owen?

[Tobzilla]

What do you mean more history? I think your insane... People on here are just to young, that is why the history is the way it is. There is no different outside the age of some teams.

As for the changing to rival's... It doesn't happen all the often and it probably happens in the English premier league, but you just don't follow it close enough or something.

How about Ashley Cole or Michael Owen?

Good point there snuff.

I think fans, for the most part, know a lot about their teams history.

[NYmoney]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

[UKfan]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

[NYmoney]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

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[Jango]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

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Quoted for Thruth, he agrees with what you are saying.

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

That would never work. Unlike the NFL, which only has one league and thus any new team would have to enter at that league, a new team would have to start at the very bottom and work its way up which would take 15-20 years. I doubt an owner would wait that long.[/quote]

[Jango]

This says soccer thread, so here goes:

Where is Henry headed? Milan? RMad? Barca?

Henry stays at Arsenal. If he would have left Arsenal, it would have happened last year when he was at his most uncomfortable and uneasy about his future. Considering he signed a contract extension and is visibly more pleased with Arsenal, the rising youth team, the brand new stadium, I think it is a pretty clear cut thing that he will stay at Arsenal.

[Rob S]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

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Quoted for Thruth, he agrees with what you are saying.

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

That would never work. Unlike the NFL, which only has one league and thus any new team would have to enter at that league, a new team would have to start at the very bottom and work its way up which would take 15-20 years. I doubt an owner would wait that long.[/quote]

not if they shell out a ton of cash....

[Jango]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

?

Quoted for Thruth, he agrees with what you are saying.

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

That would never work. Unlike the NFL, which only has one league and thus any new team would have to enter at that league, a new team would have to start at the very bottom and work its way up which would take 15-20 years. I doubt an owner would wait that long.
not if they shell out a ton of cash....

No, it doesn't work like that. There have been clubs for years who have tried to progress up the league, poured money, blood and heart into it, the fans who have spent year upon year tryying to get tickets for the big game that could mean promotion or more. Now imagine a team just walking in, throw a ton of cash at the authorites and hope to enter the highest league. It just won't happen, not in England, where money isn't the crux of very matter.

[FunJokeshere]

What do you mean more history? I think your insane... People on here are just to young, that is why the history is the way it is. There is no different outside the age of some teams.

As for the changing to rival's... It doesn't happen all the often and it probably happens in the English premier league, but you just don't follow it close enough or something.

How about Ashley Cole or Michael Owen?


when did either of them move to rivals? cole went from arsenal to chelsea and owen went from liverpool to real madrid to newcastle...

but your honestly telling me that more people in America know more about their teams histories than fans of soccer teams in England...because thats insane...

[TH3]

if anyone tells me the entire soccer system is not based around greed they need a swift kick in the ass...

[FunJokeshere]

if anyone tells me the entire soccer system is not based around greed they need a swift kick in the ass...

it is driven by greed for money but just not as much as sports here IMO

[gdamac]

Hicks will drive Liverpool into the ground, sorry but that's the truth.


What do you think about the Italian matches (particularly the CL matches and Celtic (Hail!Hail!) and AC Milan) being played behind closed doors?

'Mon The Hoops

[UKfan]

Hicks will drive Liverpool into the ground, sorry but that the truth.


What do you think about the Italian matches (particularly the CL matches and Celtic (Hail!Hail!) and AC Milan) being played behind close doors?

'Mon The Hoops

:( does he have a bad track record or something, I heard he was a pretty good owner of the Texas Rangers.

It doesn't matter where the Celtic games are played, barring anything stupid Milan should go through comfortably.

[FunJokeshere]

Hicks will drive Liverpool into the ground, sorry but that the truth.


What do you think about the Italian matches (particularly the CL matches and Celtic (Hail!Hail!) and AC Milan) being played behind close doors?

'Mon The Hoops


is it at AC? and is it because of all the problems they had with fans and security and whatnot?

[gdamac]

Hicks will drive Liverpool into the ground, sorry but that the truth.


What do you think about the Italian matches (particularly the CL matches and Celtic (Hail!Hail!) and AC Milan) being played behind close doors?

'Mon The Hoops

:( does he have a bad track record or something, I heard he was a pretty good owner of the Texas Rangers.

It doesn't matter where the Celtic games are played, barring anything stupid Milan should go through comfortably.


Just look at what the Rangers have done in the past couple years. Comfortably through my arse, typical English.

[UKfan]

Hicks will drive Liverpool into the ground, sorry but that the truth.


What do you think about the Italian matches (particularly the CL matches and Celtic (Hail!Hail!) and AC Milan) being played behind close doors?

'Mon The Hoops

:( does he have a bad track record or something, I heard he was a pretty good owner of the Texas Rangers.

It doesn't matter where the Celtic games are played, barring anything stupid Milan should go through comfortably.


Just look at what the Rangers have done in the past couple years. Comfortably through my arse, typical English.

I'm not going to argue, guess we will just see in a few weeks. If Celtic get through more power to them. I'd like them to win, I just 100% cannot see it happening.

[gdamac]

Don't worry m8, we'll prove you wrong.

[etk]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

[TH3]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

[Jango]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

[AdrianWilson12]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

I agree with what your saying Jango, there is no way united should sell Ronaldo. You'd probably be 10 points less this year without him, he has been that amazing. He may want to leave, it was heavily rumoured so in the summer after he was murdered by the disgruntled English media. I can see him going, but it would be the wrong decision.

Darren Bent would go for about £10-12 million in the summer if Charlton are relegated. However I'm noticing a trend of overspending on English talent to keep the league somewhat national, eg Ashley Young, Carrick ect.

I think you, like most of the world are overating Wayne Rooney. Sure he is a very good player, but reports of him being somesort of reincarnation of Pele are greatly exaggerated. He has been dreadfully inconsistant this year, had a terrible world cup and has a very poor temperment. Aside from the occasional wonder goal, he isn't nearly as good as everyone says.

[AdrianWilson12]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

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Quoted for Thruth, he agrees with what you are saying.

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

That would never work. Unlike the NFL, which only has one league and thus any new team would have to enter at that league, a new team would have to start at the very bottom and work its way up which would take 15-20 years. I doubt an owner would wait that long.
not if they shell out a ton of cash....

No, it doesn't work like that. There have been clubs for years who have tried to progress up the league, poured money, blood and heart into it, the fans who have spent year upon year tryying to get tickets for the big game that could mean promotion or more. Now imagine a team just walking in, throw a ton of cash at the authorites and hope to enter the highest league. It just won't happen, not in England, where money isn't the crux of very matter.

They could just take over a lower division team and move them to New York. Milton Keynes Dons, in League 2, were once Wimbledon. The decision would be extremely unpopular as fans would have no way of still following them, but that would be the way to go.

[UKfan]

Wow, AdrianWilson I'm completely with you about Rooney, when Liverpool play the Mancs Ronaldo gives me kittens, Rooney doesn't at all, Carra and Sami/Agger keep him pretty quiet.

[Jango]

here's a thought, what if an englishman ever tried to buy an NFL team? Like the Pats or Giants? People here would be just as livid as Man U fans were when Glazer took over Man U.

QFT

?

Quoted for Thruth, he agrees with what you are saying.

I'd rather see an American owner start a premiership club in America...that's my own personal dream.

That would never work. Unlike the NFL, which only has one league and thus any new team would have to enter at that league, a new team would have to start at the very bottom and work its way up which would take 15-20 years. I doubt an owner would wait that long.
not if they shell out a ton of cash....

No, it doesn't work like that. There have been clubs for years who have tried to progress up the league, poured money, blood and heart into it, the fans who have spent year upon year tryying to get tickets for the big game that could mean promotion or more. Now imagine a team just walking in, throw a ton of cash at the authorites and hope to enter the highest league. It just won't happen, not in England, where money isn't the crux of very matter.

They could just take over a lower division team and move them to New York. Milton Keynes Dons, in League 2, were once Wimbledon. The decision would be extremely unpopular as fans would have no way of still following them, but that would be the way to go.

To be fair, the logistics would be a nightmare. In the NFL, there are 16 games a season, once every week. In England, especially in League 2, there are about 44 games, played all over the place in no real structure, I really can't see something like that happening.

As for Rooney, I feel you are being a little harsh on him. Sure, he has been a little inconsitent this year but he gets vital goals, he gets the crowd going, he never gives up, he can change a game in a instant. Take the Portsmouth FA cup game, he came on from the bench and won us the game, with one of the best goals. He works his ass of every game and about hit temprement, it make him who he is. I would he would be firey, play with passion and get the odd booking here and there then be a timid player who avoids getting stuck in, it's the English way to get stuck in. And for him being poor in the World Cup, that's extremly harsh on him. He was rushed back from an injury on his foot and played even though he shouldn't have been playing. He was rushed back and he suffered from it. But is shows you his importance to England if they are willing to keep him in the squad and risk all they could to play him, the stand they effectively took is that a half fit Rooney is better then a fully fit Bent or Defoe. Look at England games and United games with Rooney and without Rooney and you can see a stark contrast. He is importnat to both his club and national team and while he's not the best player in the world now, he certainly has the potential and ability to become one of the bests.

As for Ronaldo, he would left last summer if the media had got to him. This year he takes all the stick and has produced some of the best displays of the year, after the second half the fans just give up as they realise that it has no effect on him. And the United fans absolutely love him, every time he gets the ball at Old Trafford the whole crowd goes wild, it is a great atmosphere and I'm sure he must enjoy it.

I agree though, English talent seems way overpriced for no reason. Often you can get young, possibly better players in the same position from the rest of the world for much cheaper then it would cost for an English player in the same mould.

[etk]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

I agree with what your saying Jango, there is no way united should sell Ronaldo. You'd probably be 10 points less this year without him, he has been that amazing. He may want to leave, it was heavily rumoured so in the summer after he was murdered by the disgruntled English media. I can see him going, but it would be the wrong decision.

Darren Bent would go for about £10-12 million in the summer if Charlton are relegated. However I'm noticing a trend of overspending on English talent to keep the league somewhat national, eg Ashley Young, Carrick ect.

I think you, like most of the world are overating Wayne Rooney. Sure he is a very good player, but reports of him being somesort of reincarnation of Pele are greatly exaggerated. He has been dreadfully inconsistant this year, had a terrible world cup and has a very poor temperment. Aside from the occasional wonder goal, he isn't nearly as good as everyone says.

Rooney is pretty good IMO. Have you already forgotten that chip shot? Ronaldo clearly wants to go to Spain and so do his Portugal coaches. Man U should sell him for a ridiculous amount and use the leftover money to pry Aaron Lennon from Tottenham and sign another available player like Crouch or something. Lennon is younger than Ronaldo and is faster/better at crosses but he can't score like Ronaldo. That's what I would do in FIFA 07 :lol:

[etk]

Why doesn't a rich American buy a club from League Champ for cheap, buy amazing players and move up to the Premiership and eventually become a power. It's a bit of a risk but it could be very profitable, especially if the club plays in a big city.

[etk]

Atletico Madrid supremo Garcia Pitarch has admitted that Fernando Torres could leave Spain for England in the summer.

Man U could sell Ronaldo and sign Lennon and Torres....BINGO. Or maybe Torres could replace Henry. Or Abrahamovich pulls another stack out of his sleeve and adds another striker.

[TH3]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

Article on Cristiano Ronaldo

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=407224&cc=5901

in no way did i claim that he (CR) hampers Rooney at all. I was simply pointing out that if he did leave more of the burden of carrying the team would fall on Rooney's shoulders and we would see if Wayne could truely become the greatest ever.

as for the Owen Hargraves comment... how do good players joining a team not weaken the loss of a star player? So what if he is a defensive mid he still brings skill to the pitch.

[gdamac]

Why doesn't a rich American buy a club from League Champ for cheap, buy amazing players and move up to the Premiership and eventually become a power. It's a bit of a risk but it could be very profitable, especially if the club plays in a big city.

What "amazing player" would want to sign for a club in the League ChamP?


What do you think aboout Zidane possibly signing for Red Bull New York.

[Freddy G]

Did anyone else the ESPN ticker a week or so ago?

It said Ronaldinho was transferred to Milan. I know there have a bunch of rumors in the past, but there isn't anything on the website.

[Tobzilla]

Did anyone else the ESPN ticker a week or so ago?

It said Ronaldinho was transferred to Milan. I know there have a bunch of rumors in the past, but there isn't anything on the website.

Ronaldo was transfered to AC Milan

[etk]

Why doesn't a rich American buy a club from League Champ for cheap, buy amazing players and move up to the Premiership and eventually become a power. It's a bit of a risk but it could be very profitable, especially if the club plays in a big city.

What "amazing player" would want to sign for a club in the League ChamP?


What do you think aboout Zidane possibly signing for Red Bull New York.

I meant solid, not amazing players. A lot of money might sway their mind....
Zidane won't join the MLS. How old is he anyway? Older than Beckham?

[comahan]

Zidane is like 34/35ish

[gdamac]

^ He could still play every player in the MLS off the pitch (not to mention La Liga, Serie A, EPL, Bundesliga, etc.)


I think it would be a good, quasi retirement gig for him.

[AdrianWilson12]

Why doesn't a rich American buy a club from League Champ for cheap, buy amazing players and move up to the Premiership and eventually become a power. It's a bit of a risk but it could be very profitable, especially if the club plays in a big city.

They could, but they would probably want some team with history and potential to grow. So that basically limits Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Sunderland and Sheffield Wednesday. There would be no point taking over someone like Colchester, purely from a business sence. Mind you teams like Wigan, Gretna and Fulham are only where they are because of rich owners. There is also the argument of patiences before they are good, added with the struggle of buying good players.

[Jango]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

Article on Cristiano Ronaldo

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=407224&cc=5901

in no way did i claim that he (CR) hampers Rooney at all. I was simply pointing out that if he did leave more of the burden of carrying the team would fall on Rooney's shoulders and we would see if Wayne could truely become the greatest ever.

as for the Owen Hargraves comment... how do good players joining a team not weaken the loss of a star player? So what if he is a defensive mid he still brings skill to the pitch.

Have you watched any United games at all this season? Have you not seen how influential Ronaldo has been to the sucess of the team? Now take him out and replace him with Hargreeves. We are a second at best with him in the team and not Ronaldo. Also, the arguement you sugest is stupid. Just because you bring in a good player doesn't mean the loss of a star player is weakened, especially if they play in completly different positions. It's like taking off your world class striker for a world class defender. They are both world class, star players that add to the team but the effect on how you will play would be huge.

[etk]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

Article on Cristiano Ronaldo

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=407224&cc=5901

in no way did i claim that he (CR) hampers Rooney at all. I was simply pointing out that if he did leave more of the burden of carrying the team would fall on Rooney's shoulders and we would see if Wayne could truely become the greatest ever.

as for the Owen Hargraves comment... how do good players joining a team not weaken the loss of a star player? So what if he is a defensive mid he still brings skill to the pitch.

Have you watched any United games at all this season? Have you not seen how influential Ronaldo has been to the sucess of the team? Now take him out and replace him with Hargreeves. We are a second at best with him in the team and not Ronaldo. Also, the arguement you sugest is stupid. Just because you bring in a good player doesn't mean the loss of a star player is weakened, especially if they play in completly different positions. It's like taking off your world class striker for a world class defender. They are both world class, star players that add to the team but the effect on how you will play would be huge.

Hargreaves+Lennon+Torres>>>>>Ronaldo

[Jango]

Yeah, but Hargreeves on it's own does not make up for the loss of Ronaldo.

[UKfan]

So TH3 how does it feel now that Man U's best player Cristiano Ronaldo is headed to Spain pretty soon?

while I am sad he will be leaving.... I am happy.... his skip is top notch but if he dosnt want to play for Man U he needs to go.... Owen Hargraves will be here come the summer and that will weaken the loss and I expect us to make a move for Darren Bent as well.... and if/when he leaves it will be Rooneys time to shine... to become the "wonder boy" and become what he many think he could be

That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, Ronaldo will not leave, he has become one of the best players in the world here and will be offered a new contract to reflect it. How will Hargrevees, A defensive midfielder weaken the loss? We will have a 34 year old Giggs and Park ji-Sung on the wings, that's not good enough. Why would we want Darren Bent, considering that Charlton have rejected an £18million offer for him, why would we pay more? And as for the Rooney thing, you obviously don't watch and united games. He already is the wonder boy, he is already shinning, he is going to become one of the best ever, Ronaldo does not restrict his progress, it just helps it and the club, having two of the best youngersters in the world. The fans love them both, never stop singing their name, why would Ronaldo want to leave?

Your post, upon more reading of it, makes no sense at all.

Article on Cristiano Ronaldo

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=407224&cc=5901

in no way did i claim that he (CR) hampers Rooney at all. I was simply pointing out that if he did leave more of the burden of carrying the team would fall on Rooney's shoulders and we would see if Wayne could truely become the greatest ever.

as for the Owen Hargraves comment... how do good players joining a team not weaken the loss of a star player? So what if he is a defensive mid he still brings skill to the pitch.

Have you watched any United games at all this season? Have you not seen how influential Ronaldo has been to the sucess of the team? Now take him out and replace him with Hargreeves. We are a second at best with him in the team and not Ronaldo. Also, the arguement you sugest is stupid. Just because you bring in a good player doesn't mean the loss of a star player is weakened, especially if they play in completly different positions. It's like taking off your world class striker for a world class defender. They are both world class, star players that add to the team but the effect on how you will play would be huge.

Hargreaves+Lennon+Torres>>>>>Ronaldo

Are you saying you could buy those 3 for the price of Ronaldo? The combination would probably be better for a team, although individually Ronaldo has been much better than any of them this season, but it is no way an equal pricing. Lennon alone would likely set an English team back £20m + due to the overpricing of English talent. Torres would be probably £15m or so, and Hargreaves was likely to be about £12m or so I believe, Ronaldo's potential transfer has been rumoured at around £35m

I haven't read the whole argument so excuse me if I missed the point, just my take.

[etk]

Obviously 3 players would amount to more expensive than one, but the possible retirements of Giggs/Carrick would free up salary space. I don't know why they want Hargreaves so badly. They're better off pursuing an off-the-market player with more talent. Aaron Lennon is the only adequate replacement for Ronaldo that I can think of. Robben is out of question.

[etk]

Obviously 3 players would amount to more expensive than one, but the possible retirements of Giggs/Carrick would free up salary space. I don't know why they want Hargreaves so badly. They're better off pursuing an off-the-market player with more talent. Aaron Lennon is the only adequate replacement for Ronaldo that I can think of. Robben is out of question.

Scholes not Carrick my bad.

[Vince Lombardi]

Ronaldo clearly wants to go to Spain and so do his Portugal coaches. Man U should sell him for a ridiculous amount and use the leftover money to pry Aaron Lennon from Tottenham and sign another available player like Crouch or something. Lennon is younger than Ronaldo and is faster/better at crosses but he can't score like Ronaldo. That's what I would do in FIFA 07 :lol:

If United even looks at Lennon I will personally hunt their board down and destroy them all. It's tough enough being a fan of the Hotspur as it is, but take away Lennon and I'd be downright pissed off. :evil:

[JJJ888]

I still maintain the fact that the MLS needs more than gimicks to make it a successful league. Bringing in guys like Beckham and Zidane will certainly attract interest for their first few games, but people won't be following teams, they will be following two superstars, and may only watch their games. The way to build a league is to have fans who are, well, fanatical about teams narrow, not the occassional superstar. That way, fans will go to games like they do in Europe--go to any game you can to support your team. Not try to get to the one or two games a year when Beckham comes to town.

[Vince Lombardi]

I still maintain the fact that the MLS needs more than gimicks to make it a successful league. Bringing in guys like Beckham and Zidane will certainly attract interest for their first few games, but people won't be following teams, they will be following two superstars, and may only watch their games. The way to build a league is to have fans who are, well, fanatical about teams narrow, not the occassional superstar. That way, fans will go to games like they do in Europe--go to any game you can to support your team. Not try to get to the one or two games a year when Beckham comes to town.

I agree, but bringing in aging superstars certainly isn't hurting the cause. For the MLS to ever be truly popular they will have to be able to compete with the top European leagues to sign the best players. MLS is still a long ways away from being able to do that, but the new Beckham rule might open the floodgates and allow MLS teams to break the bank for some young superstars eventually.

[Ramzorzlol]

The MLS is almost verging on communist what with the way it pools money. There's no way it's going to make any money with the player base it has, although David Beckham might change that.

[etk]

Holy crap Ramzorzlol can spell!!!

Don't Tottenham have Terry Dixon. He's like my age and he's so good in FIFA in manager mode.

[Vince Lombardi]

Don't Tottenham have Terry Dixon. He's like my age and he's so good in FIFA in manager mode.

He's in their 1st year academy, he's still only like 17 so he's gotta work his way up. He does get badass in the FIFA though. :wink:

[RWFender1]

is he a striker?

[Vince Lombardi]

is he a striker?

Dixon? yea

[sweetness34]

The MLS is almost verging on communist what with the way it pools money. There's no way it's going to make any money with the player base it has, although David Beckham might change that.

Huh?

Um they're making plenty of money dude. If they weren't, they wouldn't be building new stadiums every year.

Not near as much as say the EPL or Serie A, but they're doing pretty darn well.

[etk]

I love the FA cup. I finished a test early and got home just in time for Adebayor to score. 2 extra time replays in 2 days.

[Vince Lombardi]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.

[gdamac]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

I love Man U!!! START DONG FANGZHUO!!!!!!

[etk]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

Argentina is stacked who are you kidding? Their strikers are ridiculous. Crespo, Messi, Aguero, Saviola, Tevez, etc.

[gdamac]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

Argentina is stacked who are you kidding? Their strikers are ridiculous. Crespo, Messi, Aguero, Saviola, Tevez, etc.

I wasn't aware that Argentina play with four up frony :wink:

Brazil are an all around beter team.


I must say, the back four for the US is impressive. Four European players.

[etk]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

Argentina is stacked who are you kidding? Their strikers are ridiculous. Crespo, Messi, Aguero, Saviola, Tevez, etc.

I wasn't aware that Argentina play with four up frony :wink:

Brazil are an all around beter team.


I must say, the back four for the US is impressive. Four European players.

Argentina isn't that good they did lose to Germany :D :D
ARG strikers>BRA strikers
BRA midfield>ARG midfield
BRA midfield>ARG strikers

[gdamac]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

Argentina is stacked who are you kidding? Their strikers are ridiculous. Crespo, Messi, Aguero, Saviola, Tevez, etc.

I wasn't aware that Argentina play with four up frony :wink:

Brazil are an all around beter team.


I must say, the back four for the US is impressive. Four European players.

Argentina isn't that good they did lose to Germany :D :D
ARG strikers>BRA strikers
BRA midfield>ARG midfield
BRA midfield>ARG strikers

In penalties.

[etk]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

Argentina is stacked who are you kidding? Their strikers are ridiculous. Crespo, Messi, Aguero, Saviola, Tevez, etc.

I wasn't aware that Argentina play with four up frony :wink:

Brazil are an all around beter team.


I must say, the back four for the US is impressive. Four European players.

Argentina isn't that good they did lose to Germany :D :D
ARG strikers>BRA strikers
BRA midfield>ARG midfield
BRA midfield>ARG strikers

In penalties.

Their only goal that game was a header by Ayala off a corner. The more deserving team won. :D

[gdamac]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

[etk]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

What about Beckham :lol:

I don't know much about this character you speak of, but I doubt he's better that Juninho.

[gdamac]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

What about Beckham :lol:

I don't know much about this character you speak of, but I doubt he's better that Juninho.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KLwVZ6w5JEo&mode=related&search=



http://youtube.com/watch?v=uqJE6ezCZKc


http://youtube.com/watch?v=GURA3bDq4Ic


Your doubt is unfounded.

How about a free kick competition w/ Beckham at the MLS All Star Game, since Celtic will be playing. Perfect for halftime.

[UKfan]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

Second best, it's all about Juninho over at Lyon, 11 free kick goals last season I believe. Shunsuke is good though, bagged a couple against Man U which I always love to see.

Anyway it's the big game this week, Barcelona v Liverpool, come on the mighty reds!

[AdrianWilson12]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

Second best, it's all about Juninho over at Lyon, 11 free kick goals last season I believe. Shunsuke is good though, bagged a couple against Man U which I always love to see.

Anyway it's the big game this week, Barcelona v Liverpool, come on the mighty reds!

Yeah I'd agree that Juninho is the best. Asscencao of Bettis is probably 2nd best. Oh, and if anyone says Roberto Carlos they deserved to be banned from this forum. Its like saying Brandon Lloyd is the best receiver in the NFL because he once made a spectacular catch.

[UKfan]

Shunsuke Nakamura= world's best free kick taker.

Discuss

Second best, it's all about Juninho over at Lyon, 11 free kick goals last season I believe. Shunsuke is good though, bagged a couple against Man U which I always love to see.

Anyway it's the big game this week, Barcelona v Liverpool, come on the mighty reds!

Yeah I'd agree that Juninho is the best. Asscencao of Bettis is probably 2nd best. Oh, and if anyone says Roberto Carlos they deserved to be banned from this forum. Its like saying Brandon Lloyd is the best receiver in the NFL because he once made a spectacular catch.

:lol: :lol: QFT!

[etk]

Every week I see incredible free kicks from nobodies. Anyone can have one or two spectacular free kicks but Juninho and Ronaldinho do it on a regular basis. Juninho is the best overall but Ronaldinho is definitely the most creative, especially when he does those low kicks. It hurts me to say it but Lampard is pretty good too. He can nail them from deep.

[Jango]

Every week I see incredible free kicks from nobodies. Anyone can have one or two spectacular free kicks but Juninho and Ronaldinho do it on a regular basis. Juninho is the best overall but Ronaldinho is definitely the most creative, especially when he does those low kicks. It hurts me to say it but Lampard is pretty good too. He can nail them from deep.

Lampard is rubbish, complete rubbish. Nearly all his goals are deflected. I hate that bastard with a passion.

[etk]

Every week I see incredible free kicks from nobodies. Anyone can have one or two spectacular free kicks but Juninho and Ronaldinho do it on a regular basis. Juninho is the best overall but Ronaldinho is definitely the most creative, especially when he does those low kicks. It hurts me to say it but Lampard is pretty good too. He can nail them from deep.

Lampard is rubbish, complete rubbish. Nearly all his goals are deflected. I hate that bastard with a passion.

He gets a lot of lucky goals but they're still nice goals, like that free kick he had that bended and the keeper expected it to be headed but it wasn't.

[gdamac]

So, who wants to record Celtic v. Milan in some digital fashion and then send it to me? :oops:

[etk]

So, who wants to record Celtic v. Milan in some digital fashion and then send it to me? :oops:

I have 4 channels to choose from at home :D
Milan is on a goal tear with Ronaldo but they can't play D and I think Dida is still out. Should be a good game.

[gdamac]

So, who wants to record Celtic v. Milan in some digital fashion and then send it to me? :oops:

I have 4 channels to choose from at home :D
Milan is on a goal tear with Ronaldo but they can't play D and I think Dida is still out. Should be a good game.

:(

Lucky bastard

[sweetness34]

2007 U.S. Soccer Schedule

Sat., Jan. 20: United States 3, Denmark 1
Wed., Feb. 7: United States 2, Mexico 0
Sun., March 25: vs. Ecuador at Tampa, Fla., noon
Wed., March 28: vs. Guatemala at Frisco, Texas, 9 p.m.

June 6-24: CONCACAF Gold Cup

a-Thurs., June 28: vs. Argentina at Maracaibo, Venezuela
a-Mon., July 2: vs. Paraguay at Barinas, Venezuela
a-Thurs., July 5: vs. Colombia at Barquisimeto, Venezuela
a-Copa America, All Times EDT


Man, the US teams group for the Copa America is brutal. Argentina, Paraguay, and Colombia.....yikes.


At least they got Argentina instead of Brazil (albeit a small consolation, if any at all).

I'd rather face Argentina then Brazil. On paper, Brazil is the best team in the world hands down. If they start clicking we don't stand a chance.

I'd be happy with a draw in that game though. :lol:

Did anyone see Bravo try and take out Eddie Johnson after Donovan scored against Mexico? Take a look...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rjMAg7mZg

:shock: :shock: :shock: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[gdamac]

So, who wants to record Celtic v. Milan in some digital fashion and then send it to me? :oops:

I have 4 channels to choose from at home :D
Milan is on a goal tear with Ronaldo but they can't play D and I think Dida is still out. Should be a good game.

where do you live?

[Jango]

I've got about 8 games to chose from tonight, every single One of todays Champions League matches 8)

But of course, I will be watching the mighty United completly own, I hope, Lille.

[etk]

So, who wants to record Celtic v. Milan in some digital fashion and then send it to me? :oops:

I have 4 channels to choose from at home :D
Milan is on a goal tear with Ronaldo but they can't play D and I think Dida is still out. Should be a good game.

where do you live?

I live in Toronto, but I am shocked to announce that the only games that are televised are same day re-runs of the RMad game and the Celtic game at midnight and 3:30 AM respectfully. Brutal!

[AdrianWilson12]

I've got about 8 games to chose from tonight, every single One of todays Champions League matches 8)

But of course, I will be watching the mighty United completly own, I hope, Lille.

They were less than impressive, and Lille were quite hard done by to lose. Of course that by no means excuses the unbelieveable tactic of their coaching staff to try to forfit the match. How they can consider that is behond me, especially when the refereeing weren't that good.

[etk]

I've got about 8 games to chose from tonight, every single One of todays Champions League matches 8)

But of course, I will be watching the mighty United completly own, I hope, Lille.

They were less than impressive, and Lille were quite hard done by to lose. Of course that by no means excuses the unbelieveable tactic of their coaching staff to try to forfit the match. How they can consider that is behond me, especially when the refereeing weren't that good.

Was Giggs' goal nice?

[AdrianWilson12]

I've got about 8 games to chose from tonight, every single One of todays Champions League matches 8)

But of course, I will be watching the mighty United completly own, I hope, Lille.

They were less than impressive, and Lille were quite hard done by to lose. Of course that by no means excuses the unbelieveable tactic of their coaching staff to try to forfit the match. How they can consider that is behond me, especially when the refereeing weren't that good.

Was Giggs' goal nice?

Well that is where the controversy esculated at. Lille had had a goal disallowed for a "push" on Vidic. Then Giggs takes a quick free kick, while Lille are still getting their wall ready, and it goes perfectly in the top corner. The referee said he could, and he didn't really do anything that hasn't been done a many a time before.

[etk]

I've got about 8 games to chose from tonight, every single One of todays Champions League matches 8)

But of course, I will be watching the mighty United completly own, I hope, Lille.

They were less than impressive, and Lille were quite hard done by to lose. Of course that by no means excuses the unbelieveable tactic of their coaching staff to try to forfit the match. How they can consider that is behond me, especially when the refereeing weren't that good.

Was Giggs' goal nice?

Well that is where the controversy esculated at. Lille had had a goal disallowed for a "push" on Vidic. Then Giggs takes a quick free kick, while Lille are still getting their wall ready, and it goes perfectly in the top corner. The referee said he could, and he didn't really do anything that hasn't been done a many a time before.

Damn, I wish I could've seen it. All these different sports and soccer networks I have, but none of them covered it.

[rchrd]

I watched the Real v Bayern game earlier, missed like every goal. Stayed up (its not even twelve yet but only got 4 hours kip last night and gotta get up 2mo) to catch the highlights and missed them again replying to some emails.

:evil:


edit, ah quality i didnt miss em, just ads.

edit, edit. stupid 4kin myspace, missed em again. boo.

[etk]

I watched the Real v Bayern game earlier, missed like every goal. Stayed up (its not even twelve yet but only got 4 hours kip last night and gotta get up 2mo) to catch the highlights and missed them again replying to some emails.

:evil:


edit, ah quality i didnt miss em, just ads.

edit, edit. stupid 4kin myspace, missed em again. boo.

Huh? Anyway, how could you miss every goal there was 5 of them. I'll spot you the last one (Van Bommel) because it was meaningless and I would've turned it off by then.

[rchrd]

Sorry im tired and chatting rubbish. I wasnt really watching it, it was on and I would give it like 5 minutes of attention then bugger off and do something else, hence missing of the goals.

I did notice how Robinho kept giving the ball away at every opportunity, it really put pressure on Real Madrid pushing forward then being countered. Im not suprised Bayern picked up a late goal. Wasnt just Robinho but he was a main culprit, how Raul Bravo earns money for playing professional football is completely beyond me.

[UKfan]

I watched the Real v Bayern game earlier, missed like every goal. Stayed up (its not even twelve yet but only got 4 hours kip last night and gotta get up 2mo) to catch the highlights and missed them again replying to some emails.

:evil:


edit, ah quality i didnt miss em, just ads.

edit, edit. stupid 4kin myspace, missed em again. boo.

Huh? Anyway, how could you miss every goal there was 5 of them. I'll spot you the last one (Van Bommel) because it was meaningless and I would've turned it off by then.

I didn't see the game but didn't the Van Bommel game make it 3-2? 2 away goals and only a 1 goal deficit is a pretty good result.

[etk]

I watched the Real v Bayern game earlier, missed like every goal. Stayed up (its not even twelve yet but only got 4 hours kip last night and gotta get up 2mo) to catch the highlights and missed them again replying to some emails.

:evil:


edit, ah quality i didnt miss em, just ads.

edit, edit. stupid 4kin myspace, missed em again. boo.

Huh? Anyway, how could you miss every goal there was 5 of them. I'll spot you the last one (Van Bommel) because it was meaningless and I would've turned it off by then.

I didn't see the game but didn't the Van Bommel game make it 3-2? 2 away goals and only a 1 goal deficit is a pretty good result.

It's meaningful for Bayern but not for me. It's not exciting for me to see a late goal when the game is already settled. I'm sure Bayern celebrated it intensely, because the way Madrid plays they could easily take the series now at home. I'm really surprised they scored 3 goals, I always see their games on TV and they have no firepower offensively. Robinho has been so useless all season.

[UKfan]

About 40 mins til the kickoff in the tie of the round!

http://www.guidedogs.org.uk/uploads/pics/Liverpool-FC-logo-200x200_01.gif

COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS!

[Jango]

About 40 mins til the kickoff in the tie of the round!

http://www.guidedogs.org.uk/uploads/pics/Liverpool-FC-logo-200x200_01.gif

COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS!

Scum, that's what Liverpool are, scum.

:wink:

Oh, and the whole Lille versus United caused major controversy, as UEFA are now investigating what happened.

But argueably, worse then the whole incident about the goal and the 'walkoff' was this:

Uefa launches Man Utd crush probe (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6380837.stm)

[JAllen18MVP]

Liva'Pool is getting their ass kicked 2night!!!

[gdamac]

Looking foward to see how Craig "The Golf Club" Bellamy does today :lol:

Happy w/ the Celtic result,no away goals conceded, now all we need is a scoring draw.

[Eaglez.Fan]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

[TH3]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

your boys are losing and Terry is out

edit tied now

[Eaglez.Fan]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

your boys are losing and Terry is out

edit tied now

I'm talking about my soccer :wink:

[etk]

Looking foward to see how Craig "The Golf Club" Bellamy does today :lol:

Happy w/ the Celtic result,no away goals conceded, now all we need is a scoring draw.

LMAO. I can't believe he's in the 100 rich list in FourFourTwo.

[Jango]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

Personally, I love to win. Nothing is better then winning and as result, the people on my team also shared the same goal and as a result we bonded over that. In training we would have laughs and that but we would get pretty serious. Also, as soon the game started friendships didn't mean alot, as people were so determined to win and as a consequence, I think it drove us together more then it may have drawn us apart. I loved our tittle run that year and is the most fun I've had. I met great people, trained super hard and came away with a medal.

However, that may not be the case for everyone and you might not get alot of Plaayint time with the better team, so you might want to join the fun team. If you just want to play football to have fun, which is how it should be, then join the fun but good team. However, if you want to have fun yet are serious enough and dedicated to put everything on the line and do what is required to win, not cheat obviously, to show no mercy to anyone of your teammates if they are out of position and letting the team down, to be ruthless enough to block out any friendships you may have on the field and the like then join the better team.

Although, it's all up to you, it's your choice, so pick whatever is most comfortable.

[Freddy G]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

Winning = Fun.

If there is potential to be very good on the fun bus, that may sway your decision.

[etk]

Looking foward to see how Craig "The Golf Club" Bellamy does today :lol:

Happy w/ the Celtic result,no away goals conceded, now all we need is a scoring draw.

LMAO. I can't believe he's in the 100 rich list in FourFourTwo.

Bellamy has scored to tie it up. Speak of the :twisted:

[Eaglez.Fan]

I'm trying to decide between a fun team that is good, and a very good team that is better. There both in the same league though. Any suggestions on past experiences?

Personally, I love to win. Nothing is better then winning and as result, the people on my team also shared the same goal and as a result we bonded over that. In training we would have laughs and that but we would get pretty serious. Also, as soon the game started friendships didn't mean alot, as people were so determined to win and as a consequence, I think it drove us together more then it may have drawn us apart. I loved our tittle run that year and is the most fun I've had. I met great people, trained super hard and came away with a medal.

However, that may not be the case for everyone and you might not get alot of Plaayint time with the better team, so you might want to join the fun team. If you just want to play football to have fun, which is how it should be, then join the fun but good team. However, if you want to have fun yet are serious enough and dedicated to put everything on the line and do what is required to win, not cheat obviously, to show no mercy to anyone of your teammates if they are out of position and letting the team down, to be ruthless enough to block out any friendships you may have on the field and the like then join the better team.

Although, it's all up to you, it's your choice, so pick whatever is most comfortable.

okay, thanks. On the worse team I'd play the whole season no breaks on the better team I'd probably start and play 75% but that's just a guess. And the better team has alot bigger compitment level.

I'll probably go with the better team though, thanks

[gdamac]

Looking foward to see how Craig "The Golf Club" Bellamy does today :lol:

Happy w/ the Celtic result,no away goals conceded, now all we need is a scoring draw.

LMAO. I can't believe he's in the 100 rich list in FourFourTwo.

Bellamy has scored to tie it up. Speak of the :twisted:

His goal celebration was flat out disgusting.

[UKfan]

Liva'Pool is getting their ass kicked 2night!!!

Sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over all of the celebrating going on at my house right now! You'll Never Walk Alone!!!

PS. Bellamy's celebration was indeed disgusting, but I will care about that in the morning, right now I am just so glad we won! Thoroughly deserved as well!

[Tobzilla]

ESPN really needs to start showing more matches here in the states. Why cant they make a deal with the FA or la Liga to show a couple games here every week?

[sweetness34]

Liva'Pool is getting their ass kicked 2night!!!

Sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over all of the celebrating going on at my house right now! You'll Never Walk Alone!!!

PS. Bellamy's celebration was indeed disgusting, but I will care about that in the morning, right now I am just so glad we won! Thoroughly deserved as well!

**** yea! I hate Barca! :evil:

[UKfan]

I don't particularly hate them, except Deco, but was only expecting a draw at most, delighted to win! Just gotta finish the job at Fortress Anfield!

[AdrianWilson12]

Liva'Pool is getting their ass kicked 2night!!!

Sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over all of the celebrating going on at my house right now! You'll Never Walk Alone!!!

PS. Bellamy's celebration was indeed disgusting, but I will care about that in the morning, right now I am just so glad we won! Thoroughly deserved as well!

Its a amazing result, and a fair one from what I hear. I don't think Bellamy was that out of order, he clearly did it in jest to show that they were both passed it. It's not like he had any problems with setting Riise up for the winning goals. Just because people fight, like Dyer and Bowyer or even Miller and Krutz, it doesn't mean that they will forever hate one another. Credit to Benitez, for having faith in his players, he is a world class manager in Europe.

[UKfan]

Liva'Pool is getting their ass kicked 2night!!!

Sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over all of the celebrating going on at my house right now! You'll Never Walk Alone!!!

PS. Bellamy's celebration was indeed disgusting, but I will care about that in the morning, right now I am just so glad we won! Thoroughly deserved as well!

Its a amazing result, and a fair one from what I hear. I don't think Bellamy was that out of order, he clearly did it in jest to show that they were both passed it. It's not like he had any problems with setting Riise up for the winning goals. Just because people fight, like Dyer and Bowyer or even Miller and Krutz, it doesn't mean that they will forever hate one another. Credit to Benitez, for having faith in his players, he is a world class manager in Europe.

That's true, but if I was in Bellamy's position I would have just gone over and celebrated with Riise or something. The golf swing was in jest but it could have been seen as causing more trouble, should be keeping his head down.

Disgusting was a bit strong, but I'm not keen on Bellamy, he shouldn't be hitting a fellow professional, much less a team mate, in the legs with a golf club.

[etk]

ESPN really needs to start showing more matches here in the states. Why cant they make a deal with the FA or la Liga to show a couple games here every week?

In Canada, I get games from all the major leagues on digital. FA is the best with the best commentary. I hate having to listen to Canadian commentators dubbing over La Liga games.

[Jango]

Excuse me, but can someone tell me what was so wrong with Bellamy's celebration?

I assume you mean this one?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/chalkitdown/1-3.gif

[dabears10]

the game just started. The few games i get to watch in the states ruined! haha just kidding.

[UKfan]

Excuse me, but can someone tell me what was so wrong with Bellamy's celebration?

I assume you mean this one?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/chalkitdown/1-3.gif

I assume you know Bellamy hit Riise with a golf club recently, right?

[rchrd]

Another night of football completely missed. Any brits know which channel(s) are showing highlights the ITV show doesnt seem to be on tonight.

[TCU]

Liverpool with the big win on the road, however i see them loosing 2-0 at home in the second leg of the round of 16

[sweetness34]

Excuse me, but can someone tell me what was so wrong with Bellamy's celebration?

I assume you mean this one?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/chalkitdown/1-3.gif

I assume you know Bellamy hit Riise with a golf club recently, right?

:shock:

That's not cool man. It'd be like Bertuzzi celebrating a goal by acting like he's punching a guy in the back of the head.

[gdamac]

Excuse me, but can someone tell me what was so wrong with Bellamy's celebration?

I assume you mean this one?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/chalkitdown/1-3.gif

I assume you know Bellamy hit Riise with a golf club recently, right?

:shock:

That's not cool man. It'd be like Bertuzzi celebrating a goal by acting like he's punching a guy in the back of the head.


Craig Bellamy=Tonya Harding

What a ******* nut. Assaulting his own teammates, hitting women in a nightclub. He's just not good news.

Liverpool were really impressive, possibly a 6th Euroopean Cup? Hopefully the Celts will met you guys and put an end to that. :wink:

You'll Never Walk Alone??

[RWFender1]

when does arsenal play again? i was really dissapointed seeing them take a loss to psv eindhoven. they need to fix their defense

[sweetness34]

Excuse me, but can someone tell me what was so wrong with Bellamy's celebration?

I assume you mean this one?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/chalkitdown/1-3.gif

I assume you know Bellamy hit Riise with a golf club recently, right?

:shock:

That's not cool man. It'd be like Bertuzzi celebrating a goal by acting like he's punching a guy in the back of the head.


Craig Bellamy=Tonya Harding

What a *********** nut. Assaulting his own teammates, hitting women in a nightclub. He's just not good news.

Liverpool were really impressive, possibly a 6th Euroopean Cup? Hopefully the Celts will met you guys and put an end to that. :wink:

You'll Never Walk Alone??

I'm a Man U fan buddy. :D

[UKfan]

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2016248,00.html

Liverpool's preparations for Wednesday's Champions League game at Barcelona have been overshadowed by drunken misbehaviour on the Algarve. Craig Bellamy is facing a heavy fine and an uncertain future after a night out allegedly concluded with the forward using a golf club to attack his team-mate John Arne Riise.

Bellamy apparently felt he had lost face in front of his team-mates and, having armed himself with a golf club, tracked down Riise before allegedly swinging it at his legs.

Just so you all know what happened, as it seems a few dont

[etk]

Liverpool with the big win on the road, however i see them loosing 2-0 at home in the second leg of the round of 16

i don't think you understand how iffy Barca has been this year. They haven't been consistent because of injuries and Eto'o being a primadonna. Their team is loaded but I doubt they will overcome a loss at home with 2 away goals against. My guess is it will be a draw, 1-1. Bayern will win the series against Real Madrid too, even though they both suck this year.

[RWFender1]

Barca looked more solid than liverpool. i think liverpool caught a break with one of the goals scored by Kuyt. i think liverpool will win the next match

[Jango]

Come on, if you think that his celebration is bad then you are way over your head and thinking about this way too much.

It was a joke, he was pissed off because the media had blown some miniscule thing into a huge one, he was annoyed, angry and had sp,e frustration, he would be relieved to score such an important goal so he celebrated like that.

Big deal guys, he was letting his frustration out. Jesus, you guys are overreacting way too much.

'That's not cool man' or, 'what a ******* nut'

Just get over it, it was a joke, Gerrard was seen laughing in the background.

Oh, and Barca wern't more solid then Liverpool, it was t'other way round, Barca were shocking while Liverpool played a really solid game of footbal;l.

[etk]

Barca looked more solid than liverpool. i think liverpool caught a break with one of the goals scored by Kuyt. i think liverpool will win the next match

When teams miss golden chances the way Barca does, it means that they are iffy in their play.

[gdamac]

I'm a Man U fan buddy. :D

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/255/manwhodr1.jpg

[RWFender1]

i agree people overreacted to his celebration.

however i think Barca is a stronger team than liverpool. liverpool doesnt seem to have as good of a team chemistry as Barca to me but i am glad liverpool won. i think they got lucky off of that goal Kuyt was able to knock in off the goal keepers fingertips

[TCU]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

[etk]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

QFT

[TCU]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

QFT

and QFT means?

[sweetness34]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

QFT

and QFT means?

Quoted for Truthiness.

[TCU]

you would think a member who has been on here for over 2 years would know that :lol:

[etk]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

QFT

and QFT means?

6113 posts and you didn't know what QFT means? Damn. I see someone define it like every day.

[gdamac]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

:shock:

You're right, no way Liverpool can win at home. :roll:

[TCU]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

:shock:

You're right, no way Liverpool can win at home. :roll:

i didnt say that they couldn't win at home, i said "i just dont see them winning" their is a difference between the two and if you cant recognize that, than your a dumbass.

[gdamac]

im glad liverpool won but i just dont see them winning at home vs barca. However they can still loose 1-0 and advance which is what i still think will happen.

:shock:

You're right, no way Liverpool can win at home. :roll:

i didnt say that they couldn't win at home, i said "i just dont see them winning" their is a difference between the two and if you cant recognize that, than your a dumbass.

I don't see them winning either, the game is in two weeks :P

And I think that would make me a smartass.

[TCU]

6113 posts and you didn't know what QFT means? Damn. I see someone define it like every day.

its 285 posts get it right.

[UKfan]

So did anyone catch the Cup final, although I don't like Chelsea was worried when John Terry was out cold.

[PMD]

No didn't see it.

Why does my name say gdmac?

[UKfan]

Was a decent game, the Arsenal kids are going to be something special in a couple of years, very worrying! Oh well Liverpool had an easy 4 - 0 win at Sheff Utd, you know when Jermaine Pennant plays well the opposition has had the day off.

Oh and your name is PMD on my screen, not gdmac.

[rchrd]

fulham v united was a class game the other day, i dont bother watching much live football these days but that and the cup final were awesome. United bought one in a massive way, sign of champions unfortunately.

[sweetness34]

So did anyone catch the Cup final, although I don't like Chelsea was worried when John Terry was out cold.

That was nasty man. I'm scared to go for headers now becuase of that. And it's another reason why you don't kick high. It wasn't a dirty play but this is why there are no high kicks in soccer. Although from the looks of it Terry went down for that ball. But man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkrJ4A2BRA

Jesus christ.

[UKfan]

I've taken a kick to the side of the head studs up in a game going for a header, I had to go off and had stitches in hospital for it, but I'd go for it again. The thing that was scary was the unconsciousness.

[sweetness34]

I've taken a kick to the side of the head studs up in a game going for a header, I had to go off and had stitches in hospital for it, but I'd go for it again. The thing that was scary was the unconsciousness.

Or the fact that he swallowed his tongue.

[dabears10]

No high kicks in soccer??

Seriously it doesnt matter at the professional level. It wasnt a dirty play at all he was clearly going for the ball and it happens.

[etk]

fulham v united was a class game the other day, i dont bother watching much live football these days but that and the cup final were awesome. United bought one in a massive way, sign of champions unfortunately.

Fulham played so well defensively, blocking shots and holding United at bay. I was so disappointed when Ronaldo scored, but we all knew it was coming. They deserved at least a point for that one.

[TCU]

without Henry i didnt think Arsenal had a chance, im glad Chelsea won and i think that even if they dont win another trophy they still had a good year.

[PickedOffTwice]

A year without a title isn't a good year for chelsea. They have invested over half a billion dollars in this squad during the last 3 years.

[UKfan]

A year without a title isn't a good year for chelsea. They have invested over half a billion dollars in this squad during the last 3 years.

Agreed. Especially as they made an £80m loss this year on top of the £140m last year. Abramovich is bound to get fed up eventually.

[PickedOffTwice]

Agreed. Especially as they made an £80m loss this year on top of the £140m last year. Abramovich is bound to get fed up eventually.

That may be. They're still in the hunt for the CL title though, which is the most important of all, especially for Abramovitsch.
If he gets fed up, he has to sell many, many stars for really cheap prices, because nobody would ever buy the club with the current roster. The payroll is so high, they basically lose money every year they don't win 3 titles (maybe even then.....)

[sweetness34]

No high kicks in soccer??

Seriously it doesnt matter at the professional level. It wasnt a dirty play at all he was clearly going for the ball and it happens.

I never said it was a dirty play. I said this is why high kicks aren't allowed.

Granted Terry leaned into that ball but the Arsenal defender's (forget who kicked him) foot was above his shoulder, and that is not allowed.

Case and point why they have this rule, Terry gets knocked out.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

That was nasty man. I'm scared to go for headers now becuase of that. And it's another reason why you don't kick high. It wasn't a dirty play but this is why there are no high kicks in soccer. Although from the looks of it Terry went down for that ball. But man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkrJ4A2BRA

Jesus christ.

High kicks never get called in real soccer. It's a terrible rule, but I guess it's used for situations like this. I remember one ref gave me a yellow for a high kick...

[sweetness34]

High kicks never get called in real soccer. It's a terrible rule, but I guess it's used for situations like this. I remember one ref gave me a yellow for a high kick...

How is it a terrible rule? Seriously. I don't advocate handing out cards for every high kick but it needs to be called for the safety of the players.

You have a head, so use it when the ball is up there. It's a dangerous play, which is why it's a rule. Now I think there's a difference between a high kick in traffic and a high kick.

I don't think you should be called if you're all by yourself in the corner and you do a high kick to clear the ball. But in traffic, yes, it's a great rule.

[Freddy G]

I am guessing i am the only one who wears one of those sweet padded head protectors when they play. Don't really care how goofy it looks i make my money in the air (if i made money) and i don't want to vegetable when i am forty. You would be suprised to toll all those headers take on your brain.

[PMD]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LcIVYYHxoEA

[Freddy G]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LcIVYYHxoEA


Owie....not sure my helmet would have helped much there....but like i said, its good for headers.

[TCU]

Did anyone else see Blackburn knock out Arsenal in the FA cup today?

[PMD]

Yes, winner in the 87th ******

[TCU]

that was such a sick shot, i hate Arsenal and i was so exicted to see them loose another big game!

Last years UEFA Championship, Carling Cup this year and now FA today

[TH3]

I am very excited about the Man U Liverpool game ... predictions?

[sweetness34]

I am very excited about the Man U Liverpool game ... predictions?

Manchester United 3 -1...Rooney with 2 goals and a surprise goal by Rio off a corner.

Liverpool gets an own goal.:D

[TH3]

Manchester United 3 -1...Rooney with 2 goals and a surprise goal by Rio off a corner.

Liverpool gets an own goal.:D

God i hope so

[sweetness34]

God i hope so

The Devils will win. Don't worry. Oh, and I think Ronaldo baits Gerrard into a red card!:D

[TCU]

I am very excited about the Man U Liverpool game ... predictions?

I cant wait for that game, i like Liverpool at home especially coming off the huge win vs Barcelona and the 4-0 win over Sheff. Utd. But Man U hasnt lost in over a month. I think Man United will win this game and i hope Liverpool can bounce back and take care of Barcelona at home.

1-0 Man United (Saha 68')

What a time to be a Liverpool fan, you got both Man U and Barcelona playing in your place in a span of 3 days.

[TH3]

I cant wait for that game, i like Liverpool at home especially coming off the huge win vs Barcelona and the 4-0 win over Sheff. Utd. But Man U hasnt lost in over a month. I think Man United will win this game and i hope Liverpool can bounce back and take care of Barcelona at home.

1-0 Man United (Saha 68')

What a time to be a Liverpool fan, you got both Man U and Barcelona playing in your place in a span of 3 days.

saha wont be off the bench yet lol

[TCU]

saha wont be off the bench yet lol

i hope he gets in the action in this game, he is one of my favorite players and i dont even know why but i always say he is going to score.

[TH3]

i hope he gets in the action in this game, he is one of my favorite players and i dont even know why but i always say he is going to score.

He will come in as a sub for Larson so he will get some action probably

[TCU]

Who is everyones favorite teams? I dont really have one just yet but i always cheer against any team not in the EPL and i love whoever is playing Arsenal.

[TH3]

Top 3:
1. Man U
2. Valencia
3. Inter

[TCU]

i hate all the Spanish teams, i hope either Man U or Chelsea wins UEFA.

Favorite Players?

1. S. Gerrard
2. C. Ronaldo
3. D. Drogba
4. A. Robben

[TH3]

I hate Chelsea and Arsenal.... not to fond of Liverpool but i can stomach them.. all other EPL teams are alright

[TCU]

I hate Chelsea and Arsenal.... not to fond of Liverpool but i can stomach them.. all other EPL teams are alright

I know i cant like Man U and Chelsea but its hard for me to pick one team, favorite players TH3?

mine:
1. S. Gerrard
2. C. Ronaldo
3. D. Drogba
4. A. Robben

[TH3]

I know i cant like Man U and Chelsea but its hard for me to pick one team, favorite players TH3?

mine:
1. S. Gerrard
2. C. Ronaldo
3. D. Drogba
4. A. Robben

1. Wayne Rooney
2. C. Ronaldo
3. David Villa
4. Rio F.
5. Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[TCU]

1. Wayne Rooney
2. C. Ronaldo
3. David Villa
4. Rio F.
5. Zlatan Ibrahimovic

he kills me in Fifa when i play against him, i hate that guy.

[TH3]

he kills me in Fifa when i play against him, i hate that guy.


I know fifa is not at all like real soccer but i find it to be the most fun to play with friends....

[TCU]

I know fifa is not at all like real soccer but i find it to be the most fun to play with friends....

i know you cant beat playing fifa with some friends, except for when they dominate you because Henry makes every shot from anywhere he wants to.

[etk]

Favourite players:

Aaron Lennon
Torsten Frings
Sergio Aguero
Francesc Fabregas
Sergio Ramos
Cristiano Ronaldo
Shaun Wright-Phillips

[getwellchad]

Tottenham

Favorite players: Dimitar Berbatov, Dimitar Berbatov, Dimitar Berbatov, Aaron Lennon, Robbie Kean, Ledly King and Dimitar Berbatov.

[sweetness34]

Favourite players:

Aaron Lennon
Torsten Frings
Sergio Aguero
Francesc Fabregas
Sergio Ramos
Cristiano Ronaldo
Shaun Wright-Phillips

Frings is a little *****. He was the one who had that handball against us in 2002.

[UKfan]

Can't wait until Saturday, I'm not confident but I reckon the boys can do it, 2-1 with goals from Alonso and Kuyt, come on Liverpool!

[JJJ888]

Fulham! Let's Go Whites!

[Freddy G]

My favorite EPL team is Arsenal. After that my favorite teams include Inter Milan, Dynamo Kiev, and Marseille (more because i have been there and seen how fanatical the locals are about the team...they had a Didier Drogba jersey hung next to Jesus in their largest church...no joke).

Favourite players include:
1. Zlatan Ibrahimovic
2. Arjen Robben
3. Every other Dutch Player
4. Petre Cech
5. Didier Drogba
6. Frank Ribery

[PMD]

**** the EPL!


The Celtic Football Club

Players- All who wear the Hoops (with a few historical exceptions --looking at Judas Johnstone)

[Jango]

That's a championship winning performance.

Get the **** in, really well played lads, 12 points clear and the run in looks good, all things looking up for United.

Get the **** in!!!!!!!

[UKfan]

That's a championship winning performance.

Get the **** in, really well played lads, 12 points clear and the run in looks good, all things looking up for United.

Get the **** in!!!!!!!

Well played... what game did you watch? I know the ******* manc scum won today, but in no way shape or form did they deserve, Liverpool played you off the park.

Guess I have to take my hat off, that is the difference between us now I feel, better keeper for Man U and the ability to bag a goal in the dying seconds. :(

[Jango]

Well played... what game did you watch? I know the ******* manc scum won today, but in no way shape or form did they deserve, Liverpool played you off the park.

Guess I have to take my hat off, that is the difference between us now I feel, better keeper for Man U and the ability to bag a goal in the dying seconds. :(

I watched the same game, that's why it was a championship winning performance. We were under pressure for the entire second half but despite that we sucked it up, protected our goal and took everything you threw at us and managed to sneak a win. The mark of champions is getting the result you need even when you are playing badly, like we have today and against Fulham. I take nothing away from Liverpool, they perhaps desereved to win, at least get a draw, but sometimes you don't get what you deserve.

[UKfan]

I watched the same game, that's why it was a championship winning performance. We were under pressure for the entire second half but despite that we sucked it up, protected our goal and took everything you threw at us and managed to sneak a win. The mark of champions is getting the result you need even when you are playing badly, like we have today and against Fulham. I take nothing away from Liverpool, they perhaps desereved to win, at least get a draw, but sometimes you don't get what you deserve.

I guess you are right, was just in a mood earlier, games like that suck. I was thinking about it, if we had Van Der Sar and a decent winger we'd be really up there, hopefully in the summer we address Right wing, and possibly keeper, Reina is great in general, but he has his moments.

Here's hoping Rafa splashes the cash on signing a really top winger such as Joaquin. No more cheap / freebie Bosman signing like Voronin.

[Jango]

I guess you are right, was just in a mood earlier, games like that suck. I was thinking about it, if we had Van Der Sar and a decent winger we'd be really up there, hopefully in the summer we address Right wing, and possibly keeper, Reina is great in general, but he has his moments.

Here's hoping Rafa splashes the cash on signing a really top winger such as Joaquin. No more cheap / freebie Bosman signing like Voronin.

Yeah, playing Gerrard on the right is a waste of his talent. get a proper winger and you guys could be good.

Just not the best ;)

[PMD]

So what'd you guys think of Celtic v. Dunfermiline?

[etk]

That save by Van Der Sar was killer. That was the momentum that United needed, and the set piece was very well executed. I can't believe Saha didn't score but O'Shea cleaned up nice.

[TCU]

That save by Van Der Sar was killer. That was the momentum that United needed, and the set piece was very well executed. I can't believe Saha didn't score but O'Shea cleaned up nice.

i didnt see the game, did Saha almost score because i predicted that he would, i know he didnt but how close was it?

[etk]

i didnt see the game, did Saha almost score because i predicted that he would, i know he didnt but how close was it?

Giggs had a free kick from wide of the box, and he drove it low and hard right at Reina. Saha got a touch on it but Reina blocked it with his body/hands almost like a collision, and it went right to O'Shea. It was a brave move by Reina and a lot of other keepers would've conceded the goal to Saha to begin with.

[TCU]

Giggs had a free kick from wide of the box, and he drove it low and hard right at Reina. Saha got a touch on it but Reina blocked it with his body/hands almost like a collision, and it went right to O'Shea. It was a brave move by Reina and a lot of other keepers would've conceded the goal to Saha to begin with.

yeah i just saw the replay, Man U got lucky today.

and Drogba's goal was so sick.

[AdrianWilson12]

I get so annoyed by Man U winning luckily. They're going to win the league now and they don't deserve it. They should have lost their last 3 games, and drew Lille, instead they are still are all but guarenteed the league, and have a chance of repeating their treble.

On a happier note, my team Coventry are having their traditional 2nd half of the season run when there is no chance of playoffs now. Dowies a good manager.

[etk]

Chelsea is a much better team right now, but they had a shaky start and Terry's injury hurt them.

[Jango]

The sign of a good team is the ability to play badly yet still pick up the win when required, even if you are being outplayed, away from home, in an intimidating atmosphere.

That is exactly what United have done in the last three games away from home. To say we don't deserve it is laughable, how many times have a team gone through an entire season without any luck what so ever when they ended up winning the tittle? Man United have played the best football this year by far, better then Chelsea and deserve to be at the top and win the tittle, which they should do.

And it was Ronaldo who played the freekick, Saha didn't get the touch, his run was more important then anything as it put the element of doubt in Reina's mind which didn't allow him to collect the ball cleanly and as a result, sort of just popped it out back to O'shea.

[rchrd]

ahaha wet sham are shocking. 2-0 up and 3-2 up and still manage to lose 4-3. What a game to be fair, couldnt happen to a nicer team...

[etk]

The sign of a good team is the ability to play badly yet still pick up the win when required, even if you are being outplayed, away from home, in an intimidating atmosphere.

That is exactly what United have done in the last three games away from home. To say we don't deserve it is laughable, how many times have a team gone through an entire season without any luck what so ever when they ended up winning the tittle? Man United have played the best football this year by far, better then Chelsea and deserve to be at the top and win the tittle, which they should do.

And it was Ronaldo who played the freekick, Saha didn't get the touch, his run was more important then anything as it put the element of doubt in Reina's mind which didn't allow him to collect the ball cleanly and as a result, sort of just popped it out back to O'shea.

Giggs played the free kick and Saha did get a touch on the ball. I saw it live and I saw several replays.

[etk]

ahaha wet sham are shocking. 2-0 up and 3-2 up and still manage to lose 4-3. What a game to be fair, couldnt happen to a nicer team...

West Ham are terrible, so I'm not gonna act surprised. Aren't they being investigated too over Tevez and Mascherano.

[TH3]

Giggs played the free kick and Saha did get a touch on the ball. I saw it live and I saw several replays.

Giggs did not take the kick....

[UKfan]

The sign of a good team is the ability to play badly yet still pick up the win when required, even if you are being outplayed, away from home, in an intimidating atmosphere.

That is exactly what United have done in the last three games away from home. To say we don't deserve it is laughable, how many times have a team gone through an entire season without any luck what so ever when they ended up winning the tittle? Man United have played the best football this year by far, better then Chelsea and deserve to be at the top and win the tittle, which they should do.

And it was Ronaldo who played the freekick, Saha didn't get the touch, his run was more important then anything as it put the element of doubt in Reina's mind which didn't allow him to collect the ball cleanly and as a result, sort of just popped it out back to O'shea.

Unfortunately you are 100% correct. Hopefully Liverpool can power on in the Champions League.

[rchrd]

West Ham are terrible, so I'm not gonna act surprised. Aren't they being investigated too over Tevez and Mascherano.

Yeah that makes me even happier. I actually quite liked Wet Sham (yes its on purpose) until having to deal with their fans after we beat them in Cardiff in playoff finals.

It was a superb game though, and I was almost happy for Tevez to score but you could just feel they were going to lose (even at 2-0 up). They'll probably still beat us twice next year...

[etk]

Giggs did not take the kick....

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing him take it, but I trust your judgement.

[TCU]

what West Ham lost?

I turned the game off when they were up 2-0 and i didnt even think of recording it when Tevez scored. After that goal i thought they won, know all i think of when i see, hear or read about West Ham is relagation!

[etk]

Tottenham has a deadly quick-strike offense, but they really need to short up that D. Berbatov has really been impressive the last few games I saw too.

[Freddy G]

That West Ham, Tott game was nutso. It is one of those games that even though i don't like either team, i couldn't walk away. I wish some of the haters would watch a game like that, it would help our case.

Anyway, i am really starting to like Berbatov. He really doesn't have anything special about him, he just flat scores goals.

[sweetness34]

Teams like Chelsea fail because they rely on the individuals talent to win games. Ego's run high and they don't play as a team.

[TCU]

That West Ham, Tott game was nutso. It is one of those games that even though i don't like either team, i couldn't walk away.

Oh, i definitly walked away when West Ham was up 2-0 and im pissed that i missed it but Fox Soccer Channel is showing it again so ill record it and watch it.

Also who else is pumped for Leg 2 of the "Sweet 16" of the UEFA this week!!!!!!

[PMD]

Teams like Chelsea fail because they rely on the individuals talent to win games. Ego's run high and they don't play as a team.

Who are the defending EPL champions and just won the Carling Cup?

[TCU]

Who are the defending EPL champions and just won the Carling Cup?

and are in great form heading into the UEFA match at home on tuesday

[sweetness34]

Who are the defending EPL champions and just won the Carling Cup?

Um Chelsea lost this year (I don't care about last year, that was before they signed up Schevshenko, Ashley Cole, Drogba, and Ballack).

They have hands down the best on paper squad in the EPL. Essien, Terry, Lampard, Cech, Schevy, Ballack, Robben, Cole, Cole, Makalele, Drogba....

(Drogba's first full season with Chelsea was this year).

[TCU]

Chelsea is in great shape. Still in FA cup, still in UEFA cup, they just won the Carling Cup.

So just because they are second to a great Man U team you think they are "lost this year"?

[sweetness34]

Chelsea is in great shape. Still in FA cup, still in UEFA cup, they just won the Carling Cup.

So just because they are second to a great Man U team you think they are "lost this year"?

I'm saying they won't win the FA Cup and they won't win the UEFA Cup. I'll guarantee it right now.

They may be in good shape going in, but they'll fall.

[TCU]

I'm saying they won't win the FA Cup and they won't win the UEFA Cup. I'll guarantee it right now.

They may be in good shape going in, but they'll fall.

They might not win one of those cups but they still had a good season it was far from "lost" if you want to talk about "lost season" talk to an Arsenal supporter.

[sweetness34]

They might not win one of those cups but they still had a good season it was far from "lost" if you want to talk about "lost season" talk to an Arsenal supporter.

When did I ever say it was a lost season? Stop putting words into my mouth.

I said teams like that fail a lot because they rely on the individuals talent.

[TCU]

When did I ever say it was a lost season? Stop putting words into my mouth.

I said teams like that fail a lot because they rely on the individuals talent.

well you kind of said both, and i agree with you on the part that teams rely on individual talent.

but a couple of posts up you said

Um Chelsea lost this year (I don't care about last year

[sweetness34]

well you kind of said both, and i agree with you on the part that teams rely on individual talent.

but a couple of posts up you said

Yea, I said they lost in the EPL. I didn't say their season was lost.

Why don't you re-read what I quoted then come on back to me buddy.

[TCU]

Yea, I said they lost in the EPL. I didn't say their season was lost.

Why don't you re-read what I quoted then come on back to me buddy.

alright but answer me this, if Chelsea wins either the FA or UEFA and likewise Man U get the EPL crown did Chelsea still have a year you can call a success?

[sweetness34]

alright but answer me this, if Chelsea wins either the FA or UEFA and likewise Man U get the EPL crown did Chelsea still have a year you can call a success?

Yes. But it won't happen.

[TCU]

alright so would you rather win your own league table or win the UEFA Cup? because personally ill take the win in a playoff format championship game.

[sweetness34]

alright so would you rather win your own league table or win the UEFA Cup? because personally ill take the win in a playoff format championship game.

Well of course I'll take the UEFA Cup. The EPL is the regular season, and everything after that is the playoffs.

But like I said, they won't win it. Not a big fan of their manager and I think they'll fall short. They've got the talent, but I don't like the way the team is run at all.

[TCU]

Well of course I'll take the UEFA Cup. The EPL is the regular season, and everything after that is the playoffs.

But like I said, they won't win it. Not a big fan of their manager and I think they'll fall short. They've got the talent, but I don't like the way the team is run at all.

alright and i will definitly agree with you on Jose Mourinho.

[PMD]

Chelsea aren't in the UEFA Cup, they're in the UEFA Champions League.

You can't win "UEFA", it's an organization, like the NCAA.

[etk]

If you are so sure that Chelsea won't win the ECC, then who will? All teams have looked far from stellar, and don't say Man U because they did not deserve the victory over Lille, and don't say Inter because the Italian League sucks this year and that's the only reason for their unbeaten record. I doubt they will even make the next round. I think Chelsea are the favourites to win it.

[sweetness34]

If you are so sure that Chelsea won't win the ECC, then who will? All teams have looked far from stellar, and don't say Man U because they did not deserve the victory over Lille, and don't say Inter because the Italian League sucks this year and that's the only reason for their unbeaten record. I doubt they will even make the next round. I think Chelsea are the favourites to win it.

And Chelsea was the favorite to win the EPL this year too.

[sweetness34]

Barca could repeat. Liverpool has been hot of late. Arsenal is always a tough out. Manchester United has to get some consideration.

Would you like to make a bet with me on this? Straight up, if Chelsea wins I lose, but if they don't win you lose.

[TH3]

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing him take it, but I trust your judgement.

and i will trust YouTube

[rchrd]

Cant get over that Lennon backheel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGfYC4FCvvA

[etk]

Barca could repeat. Liverpool has been hot of late. Arsenal is always a tough out. Manchester United has to get some consideration.

Would you like to make a bet with me on this? Straight up, if Chelsea wins I lose, but if they don't win you lose.

Arsenal couldn't even beat PSV, and Barca won't advance. They need a 2 goal victory or 3 goals plus penalties. Not gonna happen. Madrid and Bayern stink. Chelsea is the favourite in a slim margin over Man U.

[etk]

Cant get over that Lennon backheel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGfYC4FCvvA

Can't get over Lennon period

[PMD]

Cant get over that Lennon backheel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGfYC4FCvvA

There's only one Lenny!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU86VoTCS3o

[etk]

There's only one Lenny!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU86VoTCS3o

Ahem......homer