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kwilk103
10-21-2007, 11:54 AM
1st the coaches poll; ill post ap when i find it

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

rank team (1st place votes) points previous rank
1. Ohio State (58) 8-0 1,498 1
2. Boston College (2) 7-0 1,412 2
3. LSU 7-1 1,319 5
4. Oklahoma 7-1 1,306 4
5. Oregon 6-1 1,225 6
6. West Virginia 6-1 1,134 7
7. Arizona State 7-0 1,089 12
8. Southern California 6-1 1,060 9 (tie)
9. Virginia Tech 6-1 1,052 11
10. Kansas 7-0 911 15
11. Florida 5-2 906 14
12. South Florida 6-1 813 3
13. Missouri 6-1 790 17
14. Hawaii 7-0 617 16
15. Kentucky 6-2 604 13
16. Texas 6-2 527 18
17. South Carolina 6-2 474 8
18. Virginia 7-1 466 24
19. Georgia 5-2 402 20
20. California 5-2 397 9 (tie)
21. Michigan 6-2 325 NR
22. Penn State 6-2 294 25
23. Auburn 5-3 179 19
24. Alabama 6-2 177 NR
25. Wisconsin 6-2 105 NR

Dropped out

No. 21 Texas Tech (6-2, lost to then-No. 17 Missouri 41-10), No. 22 Tennessee (4-3, lost to then-unranked Alabama 41-17), No. 23 Cincinnati (6-2, lost to Pittsburgh 24-17).



Others receiving votes

Boise State (6-1) 103; Rutgers (5-2) 96; Connecticut (6-1) 75; Purdue (6-2) 37; Texas Tech (6-2) 28; UCLA (5-2) 21; Clemson (5-2) 17; Cincinnati (6-2) 10; Texas A&M (6-2) 6; Fresno State (5-2) 5; Wake Forest (5-2) 5; Brigham Young (5-2) 4; Kansas State (4-3) 3; Maryland (4-3) 3; Oklahoma State (5-3) 2; Vanderbilt (4-3) 2; Illinois (5-3) 1.

ironman4579
10-21-2007, 12:28 PM
Just to help you out.

1. Ohio State (57) 8-0 1,612
2. Boston College (2) 7-0 1,494
3. LSU (5) 7-1 1,479
4. Oklahoma 7-1 1,421
5. Oregon 6-1 1,355
6. West Virginia 6-1 1,228
7. Arizona State (1) 7-0 1,156
8. Virginia Tech 6-1 1,111
9. USC 6-1 1,107
9. Florida 5-2 1,107
11. South Florida 6-1 980
12. Kansas 7-0 960
13. Missouri 6-1 925
14. Kentucky 6-2 719
15. South Carolina 6-2 649
16. Hawaii 7-0 573
17. Texas 5-2 497
18. California 5-2 444
19. Michigan 6-2 401
20. Georgia 5-2 394
21. Virginia 7-1 315
22. Alabama 6-2 263
23. Auburn 5-3 248
24. Penn State 6-2 209
25. Rutgers 5-2 174

Dropped From Rankings
Tennessee 20, Texas Tech 22, Cincinnati 23, Kansas State 25.

Others Receiving Votes
UCLA 77, Boise State 72, Wake Forest 50, Connecticut 26, Clemson 21, Wisconsin 17, Air Force 11, Brigham Young 6, Texas Tech 6, Troy 4, Tennessee 3, Fresno State 3, Oklahoma State 3, Kansas State 2, Purdue 1, Cincinnati 1, Texas A&M 1.

kwilk103
10-21-2007, 12:31 PM
AP Poll-----http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

all polls on this link

1. Ohio State (57) 8-0 1,612
2. Boston College (2) 7-0 1,494
3. LSU (5) 7-1 1,479
4. Oklahoma 7-1 1,421
5. Oregon 6-1 1,355
6. West Virginia 6-1 1,228
7. Arizona State (1) 7-0 1,156
8. Virginia Tech 6-1 1,111
9. USC 6-1 1,107
9. Florida 5-2 1,107
11. South Florida 6-1 980
12. Kansas 7-0 960
13. Missouri 6-1 925
14. Kentucky 6-2 719
15. South Carolina 6-2 649
16. Hawaii 7-0 573
17. Texas 5-2 497
18. California 5-2 444
19. Michigan 6-2 401
20. Georgia 5-2 394
21. Virginia 7-1 315
22. Alabama 6-2 263
23. Auburn 5-3 248
24. Penn State 6-2 209
25. Rutgers 5-2 174
Others Receiving Votes
UCLA 77, Boise State 72, Wake Forest 50, Connecticut 26, Clemson 21, Wisconsin 17, Air Force 11, Brigham Young 6, Texas Tech 6, Troy 4, Tennessee 3, Fresno State 3, Oklahoma State 3, Kansas State 2, Purdue 1, Cincinnati 1, Texas A&M 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Tennessee 20, Texas Tech 22, Cincinnati 23, Kansas State 25.

bustabinary
10-21-2007, 12:37 PM
I thought UF should have gone a little higher... oh well there's still about 5 games left for everyone, we'll see how it looks at the end.

TigerBait45
10-21-2007, 01:26 PM
USC moved up more spots for beating Notre freakin' Dame than Florida did for beating a top 10 Kentucky team.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 01:32 PM
USC moved up more spots for beating Notre freakin' Dame than Florida did for beating a top 10 Kentucky team.
Umm..no they didn't.

P-L
10-21-2007, 01:35 PM
Surprised that LSU got 5 first place votes in the "Irrelevant" poll. Can't say I entirely disagree, but it's surprising nonetheless.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 01:43 PM
Surprised that LSU got 5 first place votes in the "Irrelevant" poll. Can't say I entirely disagree, but it's surprising nonetheless.

LSU should be #2. BC has beaten nobody. Hell you could make the argument they should be #1 but Ohio State looks more legit.

The only reason why it's not a big deal is that I don't think anyone expects Boston College to win out.

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 01:55 PM
The only reason why it's not a big deal is that I don't think anyone expects Boston College to win out.

USC
Cal
USF

The past 3 weeks these teams were ranked #2 and lost. I think we know what will happen when BC plays in Blacksburg.

Also, if ASU beats Cal next weekend, they have to be top-3, right?

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 02:07 PM
USC
Cal
USF

The past 3 weeks these teams were ranked #2 and lost. I think we know what will happen when BC plays in Blacksburg.

Also, if ASU beats Cal next weekend, they have to be top-3, right?
A win against Cal won't be as impressive as it would have been two weeks ago.

I'm big on ASU, but I still feel like if OSU and LSU win out they deserve to be in the NC game. My personal top 10 would be:

1)Ohio State
2)LSU
3)Arizona State
4)Boston College
5)Oklahoma
6)Kansas
7)Oregon
8)West Virginia
9)Virginia Tech
10)USC


-Those are the only teams that I think have a realistic shot at the championship. Florida could make some noise if they win out I suppose, but 2 losses is a big mark against them. Same with Virginia and the loss to Wyoming.

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 02:17 PM
A win against Cal won't be as impressive as it would have been two weeks ago.

I'm big on ASU, but I still feel like if OSU and LSU win out they deserve to be in the NC game. My personal top 10 would be:

1)Ohio State
2)LSU
3)Arizona State
4)Boston College
5)Oklahoma
6)Kansas
7)Oregon
8)West Virginia
9)Virginia Tech
10)USC


-Those are the only teams that I think have a realistic shot at the championship. Florida could make some noise if they win out I suppose, but 2 losses is a big mark against them. Same with Virginia and the loss to Wyoming.

I would say that if LSU goes to the NC instead of an undefeated ASU team, ASU would deserve a split NC.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 02:22 PM
I would say that if LSU goes to the NC instead of an undefeated ASU team, ASU would deserve a split NC.
I really doubt ASU is going to run the table in the Pac Ten, but you have a point.

kwilk103
10-21-2007, 02:55 PM
harris poll

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Oct_21_2007.pdf

1 osu
2 bc
3 lsu
4 oklahoma
5 oregon
6 wvu
7 usc
8 az st
9 uf
10 vt
11 kansas
12 usf
13 missouri
14 hawaii
15 kentucky
16 texas
17 south carolina
18 cal
19 uga
20 uva
21 michigan
22 penn st
23 auburn
24 alabama
25 rugters

scottyboy
10-21-2007, 03:18 PM
ok, now we're back to being ranked. But as someone(think it was bf51) said a while back, rankings dont mean anything really, it's if you can win your conference. RU has 0 chance at the NC, but has a legit shot at winning the big east

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 03:19 PM
ok, now we're back to being ranked. But as someone(think it was bf51) said a while back, rankings dont mean anything really, it's if you can win your conference. RU has 0 chance at the NC, but has a legit shot at winning the big east

Rankings only matter for NC. Everything else is up to winning the conference, as both you and BF are saying.

fenikz
10-21-2007, 03:22 PM
What I don't get is how people don't think ASU deserve a title shot if they win out, I guarantee if it were Cal, Oregon, or USC still being undefeated they would be 1 or 2 right now, but ASU plays almost the exact same schedule and end up being number 7

D-Unit
10-21-2007, 03:28 PM
We're movin' on up!.... to da eastside...

http://news.tvonmedia.com/images/2007/jan/jeffersonsSeason6.jpg

Hawaii #14 in both polls that are considered in the BCS poll. Lovin' it. Just lovin' it.

Don Vito
10-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Why is everyone knocking BC so much, they deserve #2 as much as USF did before. If they beat VT that should justify it I guess, they really haven't had a tremendously challenging game yet.

BrownsTown
10-21-2007, 03:39 PM
Why is everyone knocking BC so much, they deserve #2 as much as USF did before. If they beat VT that should justify it I guess, they really haven't had a tremendously challenging game yet.

At least USF beat West Virginia. BC hasn't played a good team all year.

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 03:56 PM
Why is everyone knocking BC so much, they deserve #2 as much as USF did before. If they beat VT that should justify it I guess, they really haven't had a tremendously challenging game yet.

Can you give a reason for BC being #2 and ASU #7?

Geo
10-21-2007, 04:06 PM
It's embarrassing that Oklahoma is ranked that close to LSU.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 04:14 PM
What I don't get is how people don't think ASU deserve a title shot if they win out, I guarantee if it were Cal, Oregon, or USC still being undefeated they would be 1 or 2 right now, but ASU plays almost the exact same schedule and end up being number 7

Except ASU hasn't beaten Oregon, Cal, or USC. When/if they do they'll shoot up.

As for Boston College..sorry but that's silly. They've beaten Wake Forest.

South Florida beat West Virginia and Auburn.

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 04:16 PM
As for Boston College..sorry but that's silly. They've beaten Wake Forest.

ASU beat Colorado, who beat Oklahoma.

ASU beat Stanford, who beat USC

ASU beat Oregon State, who beat Cal.

Yeah, that doesn't mean we are better than the teams that our opponents beat, but it shows we beat the competition were expected to beat. And Wake Forest lost to Nebraska... That says how good they are. ASU would run the table in the ACC this year (that's going to cause controversy). =D

ironman4579
10-21-2007, 04:26 PM
ASU beat Colorado, who beat Oklahoma.

ASU beat Stanford, who beat USC

ASU beat Oregon State, who beat Cal.

Yeah, that doesn't mean we are better than the teams that our opponents beat, but it shows we beat the competition were expected to beat. And Wake Forest lost to Nebraska... That says how good they are. ASU would run the table in the ACC this year (that's going to cause controversy). =D

Colorado-4-4
Stanford-3-4
Oregon St-4-3

None of them ranked, only one with a winning record. Yes, you beat the teams you should beat, but I don't think those wins are any kind of a case for a higher ranking just yet. I also don't think BC should be as high as they are, so don't get me wrong there.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2007, 04:34 PM
ASU beat Colorado, who beat Oklahoma.

ASU beat Stanford, who beat USC

ASU beat Oregon State, who beat Cal.

Yeah, that doesn't mean we are better than the teams that our opponents beat, but it shows we beat the competition were expected to beat. And Wake Forest lost to Nebraska... That says how good they are. ASU would run the table in the ACC this year (that's going to cause controversy). =D
I'm not sure you understood what I was saying. I don't think BC has any business being #2.

Turtlepower
10-21-2007, 04:35 PM
I'm not sure you understood what I was saying. I don't think BC has any business being #2.

Oh, ok. I thought you were serious and I was thinking WTF. Polls are stupid anyway.

Geo
10-21-2007, 04:36 PM
I don't have a big problem with Boston College being #2 for the short time being, they'll be tested soon enough.

But if they were #3 behind LSU, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.