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darnik44two
10-25-2007, 10:34 PM
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bearsfan_51
10-25-2007, 10:37 PM
Kinda hard to critique because there's no way to know what juniors you have not declaring or just decided weren't worth a 1st-2nd round grade.

Might be more beneficial to either include all eligible juniors or none at all.

Nice work though.

HoopsDemon12
10-25-2007, 10:42 PM
nice work.. good read

bearsfan_51
10-25-2007, 10:48 PM
Looking at it for what you've got I'll say the following:

Quarterback
I don't really buy JDB or Brennan as 2nd rounders, especially ahead of Henne and Ainge.

Runningback
Mendenhall ahead of Felix Jones? I'm not seeing it.

Mike Hart? Tashard Choice?

Wide Reciever
I doubt Limas Sweed falls out of the 2nd round, considering that his injury should be fully healed. I'm also not really buying Dorien Bryant that high personally.

Tight End
I've been seeing a lot of Martin Rucker in the 1st round lately and don't really get why.

Ingram weighs 221. I HIGHLY doubt he's drafted that early as a tight end.

Offensive Tackle
I guess it depends on who declares, but I'd be suprised if Clady or Cherilus fell to the 2nd round.

Defensive End
I think you're vastly underating Harvey's stock.



The rest is pretty subjective (not that it all isn't), but those would be my strongest disagreements.

Again...good work.

Primetime21
10-25-2007, 10:56 PM
For TE you have to put Martellus Bennett in the 1st round at least.

cowboysforever
10-25-2007, 11:10 PM
Good job. Most of my disagreements are with the OLB but pretty excellent.

Point being draft is deep at LB, CB and WR.

SuperKevin
10-26-2007, 01:08 AM
I agree with your defensive players a lot more than some of the offensive ones. Overall it's a good list and I can see each of those players(except for Ingram) being in the top 64 selections

KCJ58
10-26-2007, 01:10 AM
Who's Rashard Mendenhall?

SuperKevin
10-26-2007, 01:11 AM
Who's Rashard Mendenhall?

RB for Illinois. Incredibly underrated RB who has good size/speed and is an excellent reciever out of the backfield. probably won't declare but could be the top RB for 2009

Michigan
10-26-2007, 05:53 AM
I can understand your concerns about Hart, but Henne should at least get a second round grade. He's been fantastic after the rough start.

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 06:05 AM
Kinda hard to critique because there's no way to know what juniors you have not declaring or just decided weren't worth a 1st-2nd round grade.

Might be more beneficial to either include all eligible juniors or none at all.

Nice work though.

I did include all Juniors, who are you looking for?

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 06:12 AM
Looking at it for what you've got I'll say the following:

Quarterback
I don't really buy JDB or Brennan as 2nd rounders, especially ahead of Henne and Ainge.

Runningback
Mendenhall ahead of Felix Jones? I'm not seeing it.

Mike Hart? Tashard Choice?

Wide Reciever
I doubt Limas Sweed falls out of the 2nd round, considering that his injury should be fully healed. I'm also not really buying Dorien Bryant that high personally.

Tight End
I've been seeing a lot of Martin Rucker in the 1st round lately and don't really get why.

Ingram weighs 221. I HIGHLY doubt he's drafted that early as a tight end.

Offensive Tackle
I guess it depends on who declares, but I'd be suprised if Clady or Cherilus fell to the 2nd round.

Defensive End
I think you're vastly underating Harvey's stock.



The rest is pretty subjective (not that it all isn't), but those would be my strongest disagreements.

Again...good work.

I'm not big on Henne or ainge

Mendenhall and Jones are close, but Mendenhall has a better NFL body

Hart has too much mileage, and Choice is too injury prone. They would both be 2nd rounders without some of the underclassmen in there.

I have Limas Sweed in there with a 2nd round grade

Dorian Bryant is an overlooked player. He has a bit of Steve Smith in him

I've recently started liking Rucker more and more, if you haven't seen much of him try to check him out. He's a very good prospect. That said, he'll probably fall to round 2 though.

I haven't watched Clady much

Cheriolus looks like a RT, and struggled greatly against Chris Ellis last night.

neko4
10-26-2007, 08:18 AM
For QB's
2nd Round QB's
Brennan
Ainge
Henne

Stick James Hardy in there

Joeyjr09
10-26-2007, 08:33 AM
Only real issues in my eyes.

Eric Young being in the 1st ahead of Ryan Clady. Clady just has way too much raw talent to work with to not get a higher grade.

Chevis Jackson is worse then pretty much every CB prospect you have listed in the 2nd round. I have a hard time buying into him going any higher then the mid to low 2nd.

And finally, Kevin Smith from South Florida. I know they are the hot team right now and everyone is riding that team but after watching them play a couple of times. I can tell you that MLB Ben Moffitt is the best player on the field for them. Kevin Smith just isn't a 2nd rounder in my eyes at this point. I agree with you that Hart and Choice are shaky as well but I think Choice is a better pure back.

Kinda surprised you left Henne off the list. He's got ideal QB measurables.

Travis 24
10-26-2007, 08:45 AM
Kevin Smith is from Central Florida...Moffitt, Jenkins = South Florida

Tampa 2 4 life
10-26-2007, 08:51 AM
Only real issues in my eyes.

Eric Young being in the 1st ahead of Ryan Clady. Clady just has way too much raw talent to work with to not get a higher grade.

Chevis Jackson is worse then pretty much every CB prospect you have listed in the 2nd round. I have a hard time buying into him going any higher then the mid to low 2nd.

And finally, Kevin Smith from South Florida. I know they are the hot team right now and everyone is riding that team but after watching them play a couple of times. I can tell you that MLB Ben Moffitt is the best player on the field for them. Kevin Smith just isn't a 2nd rounder in my eyes at this point. I agree with you that Hart and Choice are shaky as well but I think Choice is a better pure back.

Kinda surprised you left Henne off the list. He's got ideal QB measurables.

Ben Moffitt isn't the best player on the field. He's great and he has heart, but I would take Both Corners, Selvie, and Probably Nate Allen over him.

keylime_5
10-26-2007, 09:08 AM
IMO James Hardy will be the 2nd receiver taken this year behind Desean Jackson, probably in the 15-30 range. You left him off.

Also, Clady and Cherilus are DEFINITELY first round grades at this point.

bearsfan_51
10-26-2007, 09:53 AM
I did include all Juniors, who are you looking for?

Yeah I read your list wrong. Sorry.

In that case I would include Jaison Williams or James Hardy over Dorien Bryant, Martellus Bennet over Ingram, and Vernon Gholtson over Tommy Blake (this one isn't even close in my eyes).

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 02:07 PM
IMO James Hardy will be the 2nd receiver taken this year behind Desean Jackson, probably in the 15-30 range. You left him off.

Also, Clady and Cherilus are DEFINITELY first round grades at this point.

Did you see Cherilous against Chris Ellis last night? Ellis was in the backfield all night. He was the main reason Ryan struggled most of the game because he was either under duress or had happy feet.

Clady is raw and hasn't been tested with top notch competion enough to get a first round grade from me. He's a good prospect with alot of upside, but no definites (not that anyone really has that).

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 02:10 PM
Yeah I read your list wrong. Sorry.

In that case I would include Jaison Williams or James Hardy over Dorien Bryant, Martellus Bennet over Ingram, and Vernon Gholtson over Tommy Blake (this one isn't even close in my eyes).

I have Vernon Gholston as the #2 DE.

I just like Ingrams hands and athletic ability. He's got TE height, he could easily add 20-25 pounds and be 6-5, 250 with 4.5 speed and great hands. That really is becoming the "new age" TE. I had him as my #1 TE for a while.

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 02:53 PM
3rd round...

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neko4
10-26-2007, 03:13 PM
I dont really think Bess will declare even though he's having a great year and Brennan will be leaving. Also i think Hardy is first round material
like that you put Kendall Langford in here.

BuckNaked
10-26-2007, 03:14 PM
You should have Jacob Tamme as a third round grade. the guy is an animal.

Tampa 2 4 life
10-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Trae Williams and Moffit aren't at least 3rd rounders?

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 03:17 PM
You should have Jacob Tamme as a third round grade. the guy is an animal.

Tamme is a great college player, but I doubt he'll test too well at the combine. There are alot of other TE who will run faster and jump higher.

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Trae Williams and Moffit aren't at least 3rd rounders?

Both 4th rounders in my book. I have Trae Williams as a top end 4th round grade with 3rd round possibility with good testing.

I'll add the 4th round later...

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10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
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scottyboy
10-26-2007, 04:25 PM
courtney greene as a 4th rounder?? He's a day one lock if he enters. Possible 1st rounder, most likely 2nd

darnik44two
10-26-2007, 04:58 PM
FIRST ROUND GRADE

1 Darren McFadden, HB, Arkansas*
2 Glenn Dorsey, DT, Louisiana State
3 Chris Long, DE/DT, Virginia
4 Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
5 Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
6 Sam Baker, OT, Southern California
7 Kenny Phillips, S, Miami*
8 Jake Long, OT, Michigan
9 Sedrick Ellis, DT, Southern California
10 Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*
11 Malcom Kelly, WR, Oklahoma*
12 Keith Rivers, OLB/ILB, Southern California
13 Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
14 Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn
15 DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
16 Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
17 Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
18 Rey Maualuga, ILB/OLB, Southern California*
19 Frank Okam, DT, Texas
20 Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State*
21 DeSean Jackson, WR, California*
22 James Laurinaitis, ILB/OLB, Ohio State*
23 Phil Loadholt OT, Oklahoma*
24 Early Doucet, WR, Louisiana State
25 Steve Slaton, HB, West Virginia*
26 Dan Connor, OLB/ILB, Penn State
27 Tony Hills, OT, Texas
28 Jonathan Stewart, HB, Oregon*
29 Adraius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State
30 Chevis Jackson, CB, Louisiana State
31 DeMario Pressley, DT/DE, North Carolina State
32 Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech*
33 Rashard Mendenhall, HB, Illinois*
34 Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
35 Justin King, CB, Penn State*
36 Michael Oher, OG/OT, Mississippi*
37 Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
38 Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
39 Eric Young, OG, Tennessee

SECOND ROUND GRADE

40 Erin Henderson, OLB, Maryland
41 Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson*
42 Felix Jones, HB, Arkansas
43 Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
44 Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
45 Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida
46 Phillip Wheeler, OLB, Georgia Tech
47 John David Booty, QB, Southern California
48 Ali Highsmith, OLB, Louisiana State
49 Ray Rice, HB, Rutgers*
50 Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
51 Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
52 Fili Moala, DT, Southern California
53 Aquib Talib, CB, Kansas*
54 Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
55 Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, Texas Christian
56 Kevin Smith, HB, Central Florida*
57 D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
58 Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State*
59 Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
60 Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech
61 Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, Southern California
62 Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
63 Terrell Thomas, CB, Southern California
64 Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee
65 Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt
66 Shawn Crable, OLB/DE, Michigan
67 Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
68 Dwight Lowry, CB, San Jose State
69 Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt*
70 Fred Davis, TE, Southern California
71 Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan*
72 Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech*
73 Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
74 B.J. Raji DT, Boston College*
75 Cornelius Ingram TE, Florida
76 Vince Hall, ILB, Virginia Tech*

THIRD ROUND GRADE

77 James Hardy, WR, Indiana*
78 Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
79 Tavares Gooden, ILB, Miami
80 John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
81 Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
82 Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M
83 Chase Holbrook QB, New Mexico State*
84 Mike Hart, HB, Michigan
85 Craig Steltz, S, Louisiana State
86 Jordan Grimes. OG, Purdue
87 Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M*
88 Zach Bowman, CB, Nebraska
89 Ezra Butler, OLB/ILB, Nevada
90 Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
91 Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
92 Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State*
93 Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
94 Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
95 Allen Patrick, HB, Oklahoma*
96 Jacob Hester, FB/HB, Louisiana State
97 Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State
98 Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
99 Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
100 Tashard Choice, HB, Georgia Tech
101 Nick Hayden, DT, Wisconsin
102 Maurice Crum, ILB/OLB, Notre Dame
103 Adam Spieker, C, Missouri
104 Jamar Adams, S, Michigan
105 Javon Ringer, HB, Michigan State*
106 Jeremy Perry, OG, Oregon State*
107 Darry Beckwith, OLB, Louisiana State
108 Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas
109 Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State*
110 Jeremy Leman, ILB, Illinois
111 Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame
112 Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee
113 Martrel Brown, DT, North Carolina State
114 Jonal Saint-Dic, DE, Michigan State
115 Chris Horton, S, UCLA
116 King Dunlap OT, Auburn
117 Thomas DeCoud, S, California
118 Louis Holmes, DE, Arizona
119 Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State
120 Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
121 Marcus Griffin, S, Texas
122 Terrence Taylor, DT, Michigan*
123 Simeon Castille, CB, Alabama
124 Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii*
125 Shannon Tevaga, OG, UCLA

FOURTH ROUND GRADE

126 Javorskie Lane, FB, Texas A&M
127 Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
128 Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
129 Jamaal Charles, HB, Texas
130 Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State*
131 Beau Bell, ILB, Nevada-Las Vegas
132 Bruce Davis, DE, UCLA
133 Bo Ruud, ILB, Nebraska
134 Joe Burnett, CB, Central Florida*
135 James Davis, HB, Clemson*
136 Devin Thomas WR, Michigan State*
137 Jeremy Zuttah, OG/OT, Rutgers
138 Sam Keller, QB, Nebraska
139 Ben Moffitt, ILB, South Florida
140 Cliff Avril, DE/OLB, Purdue
141 Chris Norwell, DT, Illinois
142 Chris Graham, ILB, Michigan
143 Glenn Sharpe, CB, Miami
144 Yvenson Bernard, HB, Oregon State*
145 Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California
146 Tom Santi TE, Virginia
147 Kirk Elder, OG, Texas A&M
148 P.J. Hill, HB, Wisconsin*
149 Ben Olson, QB, UCLA*
150 Courtney Greene, S, Rutgers*
151 Paul Griffen, DT, Florida State
152 Ryan Torain, HB, Arizona State
153 Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
154 Corey McKeon, ILB, Nebraska
155 Duane Brown, OT, Virginia
156 Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State*
157 Quintin Demps, S, Texas-El Paso
158 Owen Schmidt, FB, West Virginia
159 Darien Williams, S, Oklahoma
160 Alex Mack, C, California*
161 Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin*
162 Phil Trautwein, OT, Florida
163 Herman Johnson, OG, Louisiana State
164 Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest

FIFTH ROUND GRADE

165 Jaison Williams, WR, Oregon*
166 Anthony Scirrotto, S, Penn State*
167 Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
168 Adam Kraus, OG, Michigan
169 Dantrell Savage, HB, Oklahoma State*
170 Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
171 Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
172 Brian Soi, DT, Utah State*
173 Eric Foster, DE/DT, Rutgers
174 Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State*
175 Rafeal Little, HB, Kentucky
176 Andrew Crummey, OG, Maryland
177 Ricky Santos, QB, New Hampshire
178 Jason Phillips, ILB, Texas Christian*
179 Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
180 Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
181 DeMarcus Granger DT, Oklahoma*
182 Jonathan Zenon, CB, Louisiana State
183 Maurice Purify, WR, Nebraska
184 Andre Brown, HB, N.C. State*
185 Omar Haugabook, QB, Troy State*
186 Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Mississippi*
187 George Bussey, OG/OT, Louisville*
188 Malik Jackson, OLB, Louisville
189 Amarri Jackson, WR, South Florida
190 Bobby Byrd, OT, Washington State
191 Marcus Walker, CB, Oklahoma
192 Jarrett Dillard, WR, Rice*
193 Rudy Carpenter, QB, Arizona State*
194 Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas*
195 Japhus Brown, S, Texas A&M
196 Yemi Babalola, OT, Texas A&M*
197 Geno Hayes, OLB, Florida State
198 D.J. Parker, S, Virginia Tech
199 Roshaun Fellows, CB, Tennessee
200 Matt Schaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin*
201 Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry
202 Jacob Tamme TE, Kentucky
203 John Greco, OT, Toledo
204 Jerod Mayo, ILB/OLB, Tennessee*

SIXTH ROUND GRADE

205 Nate Longshore, QB, California*
206 Ian Campbell, DE/OLB, Kansas State*
207 Nic Harris, S, Oklahoma*
208 Amir Pinnix, HB, Minnesota
209 Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri*
210 Akim Millington OT, Illinois
211 Roy Miller, DT, Texas*
212 Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa
213 Dennis Keyes, S, UCLA
214 Wesley Woodyard, OLB/S Kentucky
215 Ambros Wooden, CB, Notre Dame
216 Justin Forsett, HB, California
217 Kevin O’Connell, QB, San Diego State
218 Korry Sperry TE, Colorado State
219 Drew Miller, OT, Florida
220 Delmonte Bolden, DT, Tennessee*
221 SirDarean Adams, OLB, Michigan State
222 Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
223 Mario Urrutia, WR, Louisville*
224 Matt Forte, HB, Tulane
225 Chris Yoder, OG, Texas A&M
226 Darius Hill, TE, Ball State
227 Brandon Breazell, WR, UCLA
228 Derrick Doggett, OLB/ILB, Oregon State
229 William Franklin, WR, Missouri
230 Jeff Byers, OG, Southern California*
231 Robert Killebrew, ILB, Texas
232 D.J. Wolfe, CB, Oklahoma
233 Brigham Harwell, DT, UCLA
234 Jamal Lewis, S, Georgia Tech
235 Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State*
236 Tony Joiner, S, Florida

SEVENTH ROUND GRADE

237 Marlon Lucky, HB, Nebraska
238 Todd Blythe, WR, Iowa State
239 Chase Ortiz, DE, Texas Christian
240 Jacky Claude, OG Florida State
241 Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma
242 Jolonn Dunbar, ILB, Boston College
243 Morgan Trent, CB, Michigan
244 Adamm Oliver, DE, Georgia Tech
245 Cody Wallace, C, Texas A&M
246 Mark Bradford, WR, Stanford
247 Cory Boyd, HB, South Carolina
248 BenJarvis Green-Ellis, HB, Mississippi
249 Eric Wicks, S, West Virginia
250 Jeremy Jones, ILB, Texas-El Paso
251 Wilrey Fontenot, CB, Arizona
252 Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia*
253 Keon Lattimore, HB, Maryland
254 Paul Smith, QB, Tulsa
255 Andre Callender, HB, Boston College
256 Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech
257 Gary Barnidge, TE, Louisville
258 Rocky Hanni, OT, Eastern Washington
259 John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
260 Keilein Dykes, DT, West Virginia
261 Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
262 Brandon Miller, OLB, Georgia
263 Trevor Rees, C, Northwestern
264 Tad Miller, OG, Boise State
265 Dorian Smith, DT/DE, Oregon State
266 Jordon Dizon, OLB, Colorado
267 Darrell Strong, TE, Pittsburgh
268 Roland Minor, CB, Virginia Tech
269 Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas State
270 Spencer Larsen, OLB, Arizona
271 Jonathan Stupar, TE, Virginia
272 Brian Paysinger, WR, Oregon
273 DeMario Pleasant, OLB, Oklahoma
274 Graham Harrell, QB, Texas Tech
275 Jalen Parmele, HB, Toledo
276 Josh Pinkard, S, Southern California
277 Branden Albert, OT, Virginia*
278 Jason Rivers, WR, Hawaii
279 Jehuu Caulcrick, HB, Michigan State
280 Nigel Norris, CB, Toledo
281 Martin Hankins, QB, Memphis
282 Albert Young, HB, Iowa
283 Riley Skinner, QB, Wake Forest*
284 Ian Johnson, HB, Boise State*
285 Jabari Arthur, WR, Akron
286 Rashaad Norwood, TE, Kansas State
287 Matt Flynn, QB, Louisiana State*
288 Ryan Mundy, S, West Virginia
289 Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech
290 Sammie Stroughter, WR, Oregon State

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
10-26-2007, 06:34 PM
Marlon Lucky 7th round? I haven't followed Nebraska too much, but he got 700 yards last year, and is on pace for over 1000 this year as a junior. I remember he was also a premier recruit out of HS.

Sniper
10-26-2007, 07:09 PM
Baker ahead of Long, are you kidding me? You must have been impressed by Baker's ability to stand on the sideline. Long's only been one of the most dominant players in the country this year.

Tampa 2 4 life
10-26-2007, 08:11 PM
189 Amarri Jackson, WR, South Florida

He is not a 5th round pick. He is not a 6th round pick. He is not a 7th round pick. He's maybe an UDFA. The only good qualities about him are that he's 6'5'' and he can block.

neko4
10-26-2007, 09:04 PM
whys iwebama so low?

Michigan
10-26-2007, 09:32 PM
WOW. Baker ahead of Long?

Also, it's clear you haven't watched all the players you've ranked as there's no way Chris Graham is the 142nd best prospect in the country. He'd be lucky to get signed as a UFA.

O, and Nic Harris is about 4 rounds too low...

toonsterwu
10-27-2007, 12:53 AM
I wasn't going to comment on this thread until I saw your 7th round rankings. B. ALbert in the 7th? I'd be floored if he came out and that happened. He was good last year, and is arguably better this year.

Cashmoney
10-27-2007, 12:57 AM
i disagree with many of your rankings......sorry.

Caddy
10-27-2007, 01:10 AM
I think Mario Urrutia is slightly better than a 6th rounder.

Joeyjr09
10-27-2007, 01:43 AM
15 DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
16 Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
17 Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
21 DeSean Jackson, WR, California*


What? I have a hard time believing that Tribble and his small 5'9 frame is the 15 best prospect in the country. I doubt he even goes 1st round with that size issue. No way do I see him going ahead of Campbell and Ryan who both have ideal everything for their positions and in all likelyhood will be among the best testers at the combine. And you know some team is going to take Jackson's play making ability very high. I just don't see Tribble being better then any of those guys.

Joeyjr09
10-27-2007, 01:48 AM
Ben Moffitt isn't the best player on the field. He's great and he has heart, but I would take Both Corners, Selvie, and Probably Nate Allen over him.


I guess we are gonna have to disagree on this one. I think both CB might end up being drafted higher and Selvie is definately having a better year but I don't think any of them me as much to that defense as Moffitt does. I think Moffitt will end up having a better impact in the NFL then any of the other USF guys and if he was about 2 inches taller and 15 pounds heavier, I think you'd see him getting talk in the low 1st round. All the other guys have their moments during the games but Moffitt is the only guy that no matter what, always steals the show for me when I watch USF play. He seems to always be around the ball and always be involved in the big plays.

bearsfan_51
10-27-2007, 02:17 AM
What? I have a hard time believing that Tribble and his small 5'9 frame is the 15 best prospect in the country. I doubt he even goes 1st round with that size issue. No way do I see him going ahead of Campbell and Ryan who both have ideal everything for their positions and in all likelyhood will be among the best testers at the combine. And you know some team is going to take Jackson's play making ability very high. I just don't see Tribble being better then any of those guys.
Tribble could easily go top 20 if he declares. Not saying he is ahead of those guys, but he's a 1st rounder in my book. Does that mean he will? Of course not.

SuperKevin
10-27-2007, 12:22 PM
For all of you who complain about some of these underclassmen being rated so low, remember that the NFL Draft Advisory Panel generally rates underclassmen low as well

jbooshey
10-27-2007, 01:03 PM
My biggest quarrel is with Ikegwuonu falling to the 3rd round...NO WAY that happens. He has great size, great speed, proven production and plays a position that is of great need all over the NFL. A shutdown corner is not easy to find.

BuckNaked
10-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Tamme in the end of the fifth and Woodyard in the sixth is a joke.

SuperKevin
10-27-2007, 01:34 PM
Tamme in the end of the fifth and Woodyard in the sixth is a joke.

Woodyard is smaller than some safeties. He's going to drop a bit on draft day

darnik44two
10-27-2007, 02:03 PM
Tamme in the end of the fifth and Woodyard in the sixth is a joke.

Huh? Tamme is a great college player but he won't test well at all.

I love Woodyard, but realistically he's probably going to have to play safety which will make him a project. This is the first time I even listed him with the LB's. Prior to this I just put him at safety.

I'm not rating college players here, I'm rating pro prospects...there's a difference.

toonsterwu
10-27-2007, 02:31 PM
I do wonder if Tamme is better off slimming down and moving to WR. That said, he could be a H-back consideration as well.