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DrEvil63
10-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Forgive me if this is an ignorant post. I've heard Kevin Smith mentioned as a late 1st-early 2nd round pick on this site... Can someone give me a synopsis of his skillset?

Thanks.

Stufazz
10-29-2007, 07:39 AM
a tall runner who has excellent quickness and change of direction. has improved alot in his receiving game which was always his knock so that should improve his improved his stock.

RyanLeaf#1
10-29-2007, 09:18 AM
He should definitely stay one more year imo.

ljaxson
10-29-2007, 03:59 PM
I watched him yesterday...What a monster..But could he do that against a
D-1 defense

SuperKevin
10-29-2007, 04:00 PM
I watched him yesterday...What a monster..But could he do that against a
D-1 defense

Southern Miss is a D-1 defense. They are actually one of the leaders in Conference USA.

He already had a big game against Texas this year also

ljaxson
10-29-2007, 04:03 PM
Southern Miss is a D-1 defense. They are actually one of the leaders in Conference USA.

He already had a big game against Texas this year also

it is?Well he is a good back..But thats not a big accomplishment to be one of the best in the Conference USA.

SuperKevin
10-29-2007, 04:04 PM
it is?Well he is a good back..But thats not a big accomplishment to be one of the best in the Conference USA.

He's actually one of the best in the nation. scouts everywhere think he's one of the 3 best junior RBs and better than all of the senior RBs....that includes Yvenson Bernard

neko4
10-29-2007, 04:22 PM
I dont think he's that good but he's up there with DeAngelo Williams

toonsterwu
10-29-2007, 04:44 PM
I'll stick with what I said the last time we had a Kevin Smith thread ... and that is ... I think there is a good chance that if he came out, he might be the number 2 back on the board, provided he posted a good time. I wouldn't be surprised if Mendenhall was the 3rd back on some boards. Jonathan Stewart would be in that mix as well, along with Slaton and a few others. But I really like Smith.

BufFan71
10-29-2007, 08:17 PM
ive already been to a few UCF games, and im going to there next home game vs Marshall...


Kevin Smith is a good HB.
He is so exciting, he can block, he can catch, he can run people over, can make people miss, and he can carry the rock. I think hes the 2nd or 3rd leading rusher in the Div-1.

Hes doing all of that with Horrible QB play from Kyle Isreal

Kevin Smith is the real deal, but i do think he should stay one more year.

reminds me a lot of Larry Johnson

SuperKevin
10-29-2007, 08:18 PM
ive already been to a few UCF games, and im going to there next home game vs Marshall...


Kevin Smith is a good HB.
He is so exciting, he can block, he can catch, he can run people over, can make people miss, and he can carry the rock. I think hes the 2nd or 3rd leading rusher in the Div-1.

Hes doing all of that with Horrible QB play from Kyle Isreal

Kevin Smith is the real deal, but i do think he should stay one more year.

reminds me a lot of Larry Johnson

Larry Johnson? Really? They seem like completely different styles of RBs to me.

BuddyCHRIST
10-29-2007, 10:15 PM
i think alot depends on how he runs. He could run from a 4.6 to a 4.45 area.

aheineken
10-30-2007, 08:06 AM
i think alot depends on how he runs. He could run from a 4.6 to a 4.45 area.

I think he'll be closer to that 4.6 than 4.45. He appears to have good acceleration, but lacks top end speed. He'll probably be one of those guys that runs his 10 and 20 really quick, but slows down toward the end. With that said, I don't think it'll hurt him too much. He has great vision and finds the hole quickly, then hits it hard and doesn't let up.

I agree with the Larry Johnson comparison. He's a taller runner, with good power and vision. He could stand to add about 10 lbs or so to put him in the 6'0" to 6'1" 225ish range, which would be a great size for a feature back in the NFL.

toonsterwu
10-30-2007, 01:59 PM
For some reason, I alwasy thought of a smaller Steven Jackson.

BufFan71
10-31-2007, 08:07 PM
I think he'll be closer to that 4.6 than 4.45. He appears to have good acceleration, but lacks top end speed. He'll probably be one of those guys that runs his 10 and 20 really quick, but slows down toward the end. With that said, I don't think it'll hurt him too much. He has great vision and finds the hole quickly, then hits it hard and doesn't let up.

I agree with the Larry Johnson comparison. He's a taller runner, with good power and vision. He could stand to add about 10 lbs or so to put him in the 6'0" to 6'1" 225ish range, which would be a great size for a feature back in the NFL.

I dont see any reason why he should come out this year

i went to a UCF Team Football camp this summer and actually saw him and some other players running around the track before we had our first practice (around 8am)
and he was ripped

FinNasty
10-31-2007, 09:11 PM
Kevin Smith is one of the best running backs in the nation. When all is said and done, I think he will be a low 1st or a 2nd rounder... pending on which juniors declare.

He has great size and has plenty of speed. He aint a burner, but he doesnt rely on his speed. Its his quickness and burst. He really explodes through the hole.

And the best aspect of his game is his vision. He sees things before they happen... its really fun to watch.

And the crazy thing about it, is that he is putting up these crazy stats with 8-9 in the box on every play. There is not much of a passing threat, as Kyle Isreal isnt that good of a QB, and our best WRs are our freshmen...

FinNasty
10-31-2007, 09:58 PM
I watched him yesterday...What a monster..But could he do that against a
D-1 defense
Here are some schools you might consider to be D-1 schools...

He put up 217yards(6.2ypc) and 2 TDs against NC State this year... including an 80 yard TD.

He also put up 149 yards(5.5ypc) and 2 TDs against Texas this year.

USF played KSmith like they did against West Virginia. They have the best CB duo in the nation, and against teams with not much passing threat (UCF and West Virginia)... they put both of their Safeties in the box, and comfortably leave their CBs 1v1 on the WRs... knowing the offense cant make them pay for it.

They didnt give him much running room all game, and only had 55 rushing yards(Slaton similarly had 54 rushing yards). However, we adjusted, and he had his best receiving game of the season, including a 42 yard reception. Even though USF's defense did everything they could to stop him... he still had 100 total yards against them(Slaton only had 67 total yards)...



If 24k went to a big program school... he would be one of the leading Heisman canidates...

A Perfect Score
11-01-2007, 02:13 PM
the guy that smith most reminds me of is deuce mcalister. I think for those tring to imagine him, thats a better comparison then larry johnson for me. i can see smith as the #2 or #3 back in the draft to be honest i raelly like his style

Tampa 2 4 life
11-01-2007, 03:04 PM
Even though USF's defense did everything they could to stop him...

...We were pass rushing and forcing you to run...

FinNasty
11-01-2007, 09:24 PM
...We were pass rushing and forcing you to run...

Forcing us to run?

You forced us to pass. You loaded the box, and took a huge lead... we were forced to pass...

Smith got his lowest amount of carries for the season in that game...

Tampa 2 4 life
11-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Forcing us to run?

You forced us to pass. You loaded the box, and took a huge lead... we were forced to pass...

Smith got his lowest amount of carries for the season in that game...

I was talking about the 42 yard reception. On the screen we sent moffitt and mckenzie and you burned us.

FinNasty
11-01-2007, 09:33 PM
I was talking about the 42 yard reception. On the screen we sent moffitt and mckenzie and you burned us.

Oh, ok... lol

neko4
11-01-2007, 10:03 PM
i now want the packers to get him just so our starting QB and RB would be from Southern Miss

Would he fit a ZBS?

FinNasty
11-01-2007, 10:25 PM
i now want the packers to get him just so our starting QB and RB would be from Southern Miss

Would he fit a ZBS?

Kevin Smith is from UCF...

He just ran all over Southern Miss... lol

But yes, I feel he would fit in a ZBS. He has great patience, and when he sees the hole, he has the burst to explode through it...

FinNasty
11-03-2007, 10:41 PM
Today vs. Marshall:

188 rushing yards
48 receiving yards
2 TDs... including an 87 yard TD


Just another day at the office... :cool:

BuckNaked
11-04-2007, 01:30 AM
I thought Clerks was a hysterical movie.

BufFan71
11-04-2007, 06:08 AM
Today vs. Marshall:

188 rushing yards
48 receiving yards
2 TDs... including an 87 yard TD


Just another day at the office... :cool:

a lot of his runs looked like he could have broke it for the distance, but a Marshall Defender would shoe-string tackle him

that gives him like wat
1,300yds
18tds this season

BufFan71
11-04-2007, 08:26 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=exyZ12hGTk0

FinNasty
11-04-2007, 09:19 AM
He really is unstoppable...


Did I mention that he didnt play practically the entire 4th quarter? And STILL had 190 yards?

BufFan71
11-04-2007, 09:49 AM
He really is unstoppable...


Did I mention that he didnt play practically the entire 4th quarter? And STILL had 190 yards?

u went to the game???
i sat in section 118....

good thing they took him out in the 4th, dont want him getting hurt,
he is practically the UCF offense

FinNasty
11-04-2007, 03:49 PM
u went to the game???
i sat in section 118....

good thing they took him out in the 4th, dont want him getting hurt,
he is practically the UCF offense

Yep... section 119... :cool:

draftguru151
11-04-2007, 04:28 PM
Oh gosh. UCF is starting to get a following, lol.

FinNasty
11-04-2007, 04:39 PM
Oh gosh. UCF is starting to get a following, lol.

Its about time. UCF is the 6th largest school in the nation. And finally got an on-campus stadium. They are a Florida school as well, with a hotbed of young talent to recruit from.

UCF is up and coming. As soon as there is another realignment in the conferences, UCF will be moving up...

BufFan71
11-04-2007, 04:40 PM
compared to the other Heisman canidates (hb's)
Smith has put up some heisman numbers imo

draftguru151
11-04-2007, 04:45 PM
Lol, in conference USA. Smith is a great player, but he isn't anywhere near a Heisman contender. And FinNasty I meant on here more so than a fan base in general. The school is pretty crazy about the team.

FinNasty
11-04-2007, 05:02 PM
Lol, in conference USA. Smith is a great player, but he isn't anywhere near a Heisman contender. And FinNasty I meant on here more so than a fan base in general. The school is pretty crazy about the team.

If Smith was on a BCS team... he would be a heisman canidate...


He has played well against all of the BCS teams he has faced this year...

draftguru151
11-04-2007, 05:03 PM
Yea, IF. Too bad he DOES play in CUSA.

FinNasty
11-04-2007, 05:08 PM
Yea, IF. Too bad he DOES play in CUSA.

Yep... thats why he wont be a heisman canidate.

However, he definatly could win the Doak Walker award...

Geo
11-04-2007, 09:23 PM
An earlier poster named Smith as one of the best backs in the nation, I tend to agree. We all know about some of the headliner junior backs, but Smith and Rashard Mendenhall from Illinois are fantastic also and right up there for me. I know that I like Smith much more than I ever liked Deangelo Williams, who came out of Conference USA two years ago.

FinNasty
11-11-2007, 12:05 AM
Found it... ;)

It wasnt on the front page....

Anway, 320 yards and 4 TDs tonight!!

BufFan71
11-11-2007, 06:02 AM
320yds and 4tds.....
thats 1,700+yds and 22total tds

FinNasty
11-11-2007, 08:56 AM
320yds and 4tds.....
thats 1,700+yds and 22total tds

He actually has 1,800+ yards now... closing in on 2,000...

Hines
11-11-2007, 09:08 AM
i honestly have never heard of him untill yesterday. when i looked him up, he has great size and looks like he has speed...

i know this is a question already asked, but does anyone think he will declare?

P01ntb1ank
11-11-2007, 09:18 AM
I don't think he will. He said he is going to wait until the end of the season and discuss it with his HC. But for now, he plans on staying. Besides, this years RB class is pretty deep and if he were to stay another year, I have no doubt that he would be a high 1st rounder. And I really hope he stays, because I'd love to get a chance to watch him live all next year at UCF (my future home!)

draftguru151
11-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Oh gosh another UCF fan, lol.

I think him coming out depends on who else comes out but I think he does end up coming out. From a draft stand point his stock really isn't going to get much better, it looks like UCF is going to get a conference championship if they win out, and I believe someone mentioned he has a kid so that might push him to coming out too. He really doesn't need another 300-400 season so it would probably be best if he did come out.

619
11-11-2007, 10:52 AM
yea its a similar situation to MJD a couple of years ago..he knew his draft stock wasnt going to be any higher then it was at the time so he elected to come out. kevin smith should probably do the same.

Geo
11-11-2007, 10:53 AM
I'll be excited to see him come out, if that happens. McFadden is the headliner runningback of this class, but I'm a big big fan of Smith, Rashard Mendenhall, and Jonathan Stewart. Love those guys, I don't think I could pick from the three (and all three aren't that far from McFadden for me).

FinNasty
11-17-2007, 10:33 PM
This weekend... he had 177 yards and 2 TDs. Including his 3rd 80+ yard TD this season...


Oh, did I mention that he had all of that in the first half?!? They pulled him at half time with their lead.

Its a shame... he would have broken 2,000 rushing yards this game had they not pulled him.

BufFan71
11-18-2007, 11:26 AM
how many carries?
hes gotton so many carries this year

FinNasty
11-18-2007, 05:28 PM
how many carries?
hes gotton so many carries this year

177 yards on only 20 carries...

BufFan71
11-18-2007, 06:53 PM
hes got like 330 carries this year.....more than Mike Hart

dabears10
11-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Yeah, but he doesn't have the previous mileage that Mike Hart has.

FinNasty
11-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Yeah, but he doesn't have the previous mileage that Mike Hart has.

Yep, but hes shown that he can handle a serious workload...

TankDogg
11-19-2007, 09:58 PM
hes got like 330 carries this year.....more than Mike Hart
I'm a Mike Hart fan but this guy Smith is bigger, stronger, and faster. He look's like Fred Taylor.

FloridaFootball
11-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Being a fan of UCF I would like to see Kevin Jones stay for his senior year.

BufFan71
11-20-2007, 07:42 AM
if he stays for his senior year he could possibly have a better year
Kyle Isreal will be gone

He'll have ALOT of starters back on the oline and everywhere else

Scott Wright
11-20-2007, 08:30 AM
I thought Clerks was a hysterical movie.

Me too!

In all seriousness Central Florida's Smith is an excellent player who doesn't get as much attention as he should. However, he was only a 4.69 guy coming out of high school and I doubt he has gotten that much faster since adding 20 lbs. He could go as high as the top three rounds though, whether it be in 2008 or 2009.

On a similar note my blog entry for tomorrow (Wednesday) is going to feature my Top 10 junior running backs for those who are interested.

FinNasty
11-20-2007, 12:02 PM
Me too!

In all seriousness Central Florida's Smith is an excellent player who doesn't get as much attention as he should. However, he was only a 4.69 guy coming out of high school and I doubt he has gotten that much faster since adding 20 lbs. He could go as high as the top three rounds though, whether it be in 2008 or 2009.

On a similar note my blog entry for tomorrow (Wednesday) is going to feature my Top 10 junior running backs for those who are interested.

He absolutly is faster than 4.7. You cant break 3 80+ yard TDs with 4.7 speed. D-1 DBs are a lot faster than that.

Now, he certainly aint a "burner"... but I think he will end up clocking in the high 4.4s, possibly low 4.5s at the highest.

lod01
11-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I'd say he's got enough speed based on this play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exyZ12hGTk0&feature=related

BufFan71
11-20-2007, 04:22 PM
hes def not a 4.7 guy
hes got some speed, not elite, but its good, at most 4.5
add to that he has great strength and vision

619
11-20-2007, 04:31 PM
kevin smith is like desean jackson in only one way..he doesnt look like hes running that fast on tape but before u know it hes in the endzone :eek:

Scott Wright
11-20-2007, 10:53 PM
Lots of guys look plenty fast in college. I'd be shocked if Smith were faster than high 4.5's.

TitanHope
11-20-2007, 11:02 PM
Being a fan of UCF I would like to see Kevin Jones stay for his senior year.

Yeah... About that...

FinNasty
11-21-2007, 11:11 AM
Lots of guys look plenty fast in college. I'd be shocked if Smith were faster than high 4.5's.

I wouldnt be shocked... but I would be a little suprised.

I think he will run a high 4.4/low 4.5...

But his burst is what is much more impressive than his top end speed. His explosion is faster than almost any other running back in the nation. THAT, coupled with his vision, is what makes him so good...

He isnt the kind of back that is a homerun threat every time he touches the ball... however, he is still very capeable of hitting the homerun...

rfc17
11-21-2007, 08:33 PM
40 time is overrated for RBs. ill take a guy with quick feet and a strong burst over straight line speed.

should we worry about all the attempts he has had in college? as they so, a RB only has so many carries in him.

FinNasty
11-21-2007, 10:29 PM
40 time is overrated for RBs. ill take a guy with quick feet and a strong burst over straight line speed.

should we worry about all the attempts he has had in college? as they so, a RB only has so many carries in him.

Not after this season...

Maybe if he stays another year... but before this season, he didnt get near the workload he is getting now since they had Brandon Marshall and Mike Walker to throw to. Now all they got is 24k...

FinNasty
11-23-2007, 11:52 PM
This is a great video. You want to talk about watching film? This gives you all 41 carries he had (good and bad) when he racked up 320 rushing yards and 4 TDs.

This isnt a highlight video... although there definatly are some highlights. This lets you see what he is really about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aUuzBgVT98&feature=related

foozball
11-24-2007, 12:33 AM
he doesnt look very fast at all. he's got a little trouble breaking it to the outside. however, he does have good feet and great balance. notice how he runs though, its not how you'd run a 40 yard dash. with some help from a trainer, i think he's gonna run 4.55 or better. my bet is he runs a 4.53

BufFan71
11-24-2007, 07:28 AM
im going to the UCF UTEP game today

every game ive went to, UCF has won by 25+points
hopefully today's game wont be a blowout

FinNasty
11-24-2007, 09:54 AM
he doesnt look very fast at all. he's got a little trouble breaking it to the outside. however, he does have good feet and great balance. notice how he runs though, its not how you'd run a 40 yard dash. with some help from a trainer, i think he's gonna run 4.55 or better. my bet is he runs a 4.53

That is probably a good assessment. He isnt a blazer... no one that watches him will tell you differently. However, he has plenty of speed to be very successful at the next level...


The thing that is great about him is his explosion. His burst through the hole is one of the best in the country... and when you combine that with his vision and agility... he is legit...

A Perfect Score
11-24-2007, 10:43 AM
i said it earlier in the thread...but instead of Fred Taylor, i was thinking deuce mcalister. Thats my perfect comparison. Same body type, same speed comparisons, i think that their running style is even comparable. I think he goes early 2nd at the highest.

BufFan71
11-24-2007, 10:49 AM
i honeslty compare him to Rueben Droughens.....idky

FinNasty
11-24-2007, 10:56 AM
i said it earlier in the thread...but instead of Fred Taylor, i was thinking deuce mcalister. Thats my perfect comparison. Same body type, same speed comparisons, i think that their running style is even comparable. I think he goes early 2nd at the highest.

Eh... I like the Fred Taylor comparison better than the Deuce one. 24k has more agility and burst than Deuce... but doesnt have the supurb receiving skills of Deuce(although 24k is a pretty good receiver as well)...

BufFan71
11-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Kevin Smith rushed for 219 yards and a touchdown on 46 carries....

a lot of carries, but he was consistant today,
man did he get an ovation when he passed 2,000yds today!!

GO UCF and CU

BufFan71
11-24-2007, 06:36 PM
Smith's season stats
2,100+yds 25tds
21rec 230yds 1td
0 fumbles!


heisman numbers!

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 03:18 PM
30+ carries
200+yds
4td's

hes got one more game to break barry sander's record for most rushing yards in a season

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 03:21 PM
total:
415car 2458yds 28td
21rec 230yds 1td
0 fumbles

needs 170yds to break Barry Sanders' record

BamaFalcon59
12-01-2007, 04:17 PM
He might break it. But the season itself won't be as good. 400+ carries in a college football season? Damn.

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 06:03 PM
415, at least we know he can carry a full load lol

SuperKevin
12-01-2007, 08:36 PM
415 carries in a pro season is too much but in a college season!??? I hope he enjoys a nice 4 year career in the pros before his knees and hips explode

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 09:13 PM
415 carries in a pro season is too much but in a college season!??? I hope he enjoys a nice 4 year career in the pros before his knees and hips explode

why would u say that?

doesnt look like its affecting him
a lot of his bigger runs come late in games
hes a runner that gets better as the game comes along
u obv havent watched him play

draftguru151
12-01-2007, 09:22 PM
Just because he gets better as the game goes on doesn't mean 400+ runs won't do a lot of damage.

Geo
12-01-2007, 09:30 PM
Seriously, I'm afraid he'll be injured next year. We've seen what happens to backs who carry that type of load [rushes + (0.5)(receptions) > 370] the following season.

He needs to come out this year, he won't get any faster staying another year and logging another season's worth of carries on his body.

Nonetheless, I'd welcome him to the Colts with open arms and a big smile. I'm a big fan of the guy, he'd go 1500 and 15 with the Colts full-time. He and Addai back-to-back would kill defenses.

SuperKevin
12-01-2007, 09:37 PM
why would u say that?

doesnt look like its affecting him
a lot of his bigger runs come late in games
hes a runner that gets better as the game comes along
u obv havent watched him play

I've been watching Kevin Smith since his freshman year. I realize he gets a lot of big runs late in games after he's pounded defenses. That right there also proves that a majority of his yards come against weakened defenses and his stats can't be taken too seriously.

draftguru151
12-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Seriously, I'm afraid he'll be injured next year. We've seen what happens to backs who carry that type of load [rushes + (0.5)(receptions) > 370] the following season.

He needs to come out this year, he won't get any faster staying another year and logging another season's worth of carries on his body.

Nonetheless, I'd welcome him to the Colts with open arms and a big smile. I'm a big fan of the guy, he'd go 1500 and 15 with the Colts full-time. He and Addai back-to-back would kill defenses.

Watching him today I really thought Indy would be a great fit for him. His vision and cutback ability would be disgusting on stretch plays.

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 09:46 PM
I've been watching Kevin Smith since his freshman year. I realize he gets a lot of big runs late in games after he's pounded defenses. That right there also proves that a majority of his yards come against weakened defenses and his stats can't be taken too seriously.

his stats cant be taken seriously?


you kno? hes in 2nd place in the NCAA record for most rushing yards in a season, but those stats cant be taken seriously....he must be an average HB

[sarcasm]

Smokey Joe
12-01-2007, 09:46 PM
anyone know how Kevin Smith's blocking is?

SuperKevin
12-01-2007, 09:47 PM
anyone know how Kevin Smith's blocking is?

Honestly it's hard to tell seeing how he runs on like 70% of their snaps.

Geo
12-01-2007, 09:47 PM
Watching him today I really thought Indy would be a great fit for him. His vision and cutback ability would be disgusting on stretch plays.
I can only dream ...

SuperKevin
12-01-2007, 09:49 PM
I can only dream ...

He'd make a terrific combo with Addai because he kind of reminds me of Dominic Rhodes.

619
12-01-2007, 09:57 PM
He'd make a terrific combo with Addai because he kind of reminds me of Dominic Rhodes.

similar styles but physically kevin smith is a whole other specimen..

draftguru151
12-01-2007, 09:59 PM
anyone know how Kevin Smith's blocking is?

Eh, from what I've seen nothing special.

BufFan71
12-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Eh, from what I've seen nothing special.

its decent
since he runs so much, on play-action people tend to just drill him, and he gets run over sometimes lol


but on nonplay action, his blocking is ok, he hardly does that because he always runs a route too lol

BuddyCHRIST
12-01-2007, 11:23 PM
he should definently come out, he has nothing to prove and any questions he has about him will be there next year, cept he'll have even more carries on him.

FinNasty
12-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Just because he gets better as the game goes on doesn't mean 400+ runs won't do a lot of damage.

I wouldnt be worried about it if he comes out this year.

He has taken a lot of pounding... but he didnt take that much the previous 2 years....

FinNasty
12-01-2007, 11:48 PM
I've been watching Kevin Smith since his freshman year. I realize he gets a lot of big runs late in games after he's pounded defenses. That right there also proves that a majority of his yards come against weakened defenses and his stats can't be taken too seriously.

Wait... so the stats he produces on defenses that are worn down... because they've been chasing him all over the field and taking a pounding from him... dont count?

That is absolutly rediculous...

Geo
12-02-2007, 12:20 AM
I wouldnt be worried about it if he comes out this year.

He has taken a lot of pounding... but he didnt take that much the previous 2 years....
?

2006: Rushing 206-934-7/ Receiving 23-158
2005: Rushing 249-1178-9/ Receiving 8-44

LonghornsLegend
12-02-2007, 01:37 AM
Why cant he get any heisman love?? I know he's not as exciting as McFadden or going against the SEC but is that his fault? I can see him putting up 2,000 yds on Auburn's team

draftguru151
12-02-2007, 08:09 AM
He's on a 3 loss team in C USA, do you really think he deserves to be talked about? Him not being a finalist for the Doak Walker is awful, the heisman, not so much.

Smokey Joe
12-02-2007, 08:14 AM
Where do you guys think he would get drafted at? I personally see late 2nd, early 3rd. He will fall because his timed speed won't be extraordinary and that he played in C-USA

toonsterwu
12-02-2007, 08:24 AM
Really depends on the 40. I can see anywhere from 2nd to (with a poor 40) 4th.

FinNasty
12-02-2007, 08:25 AM
?

2006: Rushing 206-934-7/ Receiving 23-158
2005: Rushing 249-1178-9/ Receiving 8-44

206 carries and 249 carries.... vs. 415 carries this season. BIG difference...

I'm saying he hasnt been getting 300+ carries a season during his career. Before today, he hadnt even had 250+...

cowboysforever
12-02-2007, 08:34 AM
Seems slow to me.

Smokey Joe
12-02-2007, 08:55 AM
Seems slow to me.
he doesn't have elite timed speed, but he certainly isn't slow.

BufFan71
12-02-2007, 09:26 AM
Seems slow to me.

i never knew a slow HB could break multiple 70+yd td's

draftguru151
12-02-2007, 09:31 AM
I could break 70 yard TDs with guys that run 6.0s chasing me.

BufFan71
12-02-2007, 09:42 AM
I could break 70 yard TDs with guys that run 6.0s chasing me.

well, if yur trying to point out that he plays in the c-usa, and that there isnt much speed in that division, then thats dumb
he broke long runs about texas and nc state too

draftguru151
12-02-2007, 09:57 AM
Ah yes, that one long run in 2 games.

Just because you break big runs doesn't mean you're fast, he just doesn't look very fast when he's breaking away, I'd be very shocked to see him run anything below a mid 4.5, his top end speed just isn't anything special.

supermario86
12-02-2007, 10:14 AM
I hope Matt Millien drafts him if he did i might consider him a decent gm.

BamaFalcon59
12-02-2007, 07:02 PM
If he comes out (and he should unless he thinks he can gain significant bulk), I'm sure Bobby Petrino would take a long, hard look at him. He is the kind of back Bobby likes. I'd say round 3.

FinNasty
12-02-2007, 11:53 PM
Ah yes, that one long run in 2 games.

Just because you break big runs doesn't mean you're fast, he just doesn't look very fast when he's breaking away, I'd be very shocked to see him run anything below a mid 4.5, his top end speed just isn't anything special.

I agree. If he had one weakness, it would be his top end speed.

But thats the only knock on him... :cool:


And while I am predicting a low 4.5, I would not be suprised at all to see him run in the 4.4s. Both Brandon Marshall and Mike Walker ran a full 10th of a second faster than their predicted 40 time. Not sure if its how they are trained?

Gi-15
12-02-2007, 11:59 PM
Marion Barber doesn't have that "great speed". Smith is not Tony Hunt-slow, he'll be fine.

TankDogg
12-03-2007, 05:15 PM
Ah yes, that one long run in 2 games.

Just because you break big runs doesn't mean you're fast, he just doesn't look very fast when he's breaking away, I'd be very shocked to see him run anything below a mid 4.5, his top end speed just isn't anything special.
This guy right here is a ****** idiot. Corey Dillon and Marcus Allen didn't have 4.4 speed and they broke plenty of big run's. Just because you run 4.5 don't mean your slow dipshit.

SuperKevin
12-03-2007, 05:18 PM
This guy right here is a ****** idiot. Corey Dillon and Marcus Allen didn't have 4.4 speed and they broke plenty of big run's. Just because you run 4.5 don't mean your slow dipshit.

And you're about to get yourself banned so watch out buddy.

FinNasty
12-05-2007, 04:26 PM
Kevin Smith on ESPN College Football Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFS-ApvyVa8


He BETTER get a damn invite to New York for the Heisman! I aint saying he should win it... because theres no chance coming from a non-BCS school. However, he should atleast get an invite to NYC....

Geo
12-05-2007, 04:37 PM
Glad to see that interview is on Youtube, Smith provides a positive impression from it. I got a strong Addai-like vibe from it.

It's a crying shame he's not a Doak Walker Award finalist. Darren McFadden, Mike Hart, and Ray Rice are all backs worth considering, but to me Smith should win the award nevermind be named a finalist.

FinNasty
12-05-2007, 04:47 PM
Glad to see that interview is on Youtube, Smith provides a positive impression from it. I got a strong Addai-like vibe from it.

It's a crying shame he's not a Doak Walker Award finalist. Darren McFadden, Mike Hart, and Ray Rice are all backs worth considering, but to me Smith should win the award nevermind be named a finalist.

I dont know Addai from a personal standpoint(never seen an interview of his, or heard him speak)... but Smith is a VERY team oriented player... and a very humble guy. Throughout his record breaking season, he has refused to take credit for it. He consistantly credits the blocking of his OL, TEs, and WRs for his success...

He is a GREAT kid...

SeanTaylorRIP
12-05-2007, 04:49 PM
The way he runs, he reminds me of Keavan Barlow.

Hines
12-05-2007, 04:51 PM
He has a nice stiff arm from what i can see.

LonghornsLegend
12-05-2007, 04:52 PM
If he runs on Miss St he should get his credit then right?? Granted its Miss St but its an SEC school and everyone claims they are the fastest individuals on earth, so he should be able to get a little respect for that...


it is a shame he isnt a nominee for the doak walker award though and he may break barry sanders record...

FinNasty
12-05-2007, 07:33 PM
If he runs on Miss St he should get his credit then right?? Granted its Miss St but its an SEC school and everyone claims they are the fastest individuals on earth, so he should be able to get a little respect for that...


it is a shame he isnt a nominee for the doak walker award though and he may break barry sanders record...

Yes he should... ESPECIALLY since McFadden only put up 88 rushing yards against them...

SeanTaylorRIP
12-05-2007, 07:37 PM
How many yards does he need? Like 200 or something?

619
12-05-2007, 07:40 PM
hes 180 yards behind sanders rushing record.

BufFan71
12-05-2007, 07:45 PM
hes 180 yards behind sanders rushing record.

actually 170 lol

FinNasty
12-05-2007, 09:22 PM
And he averages 188 yards a game...

FinNasty
12-06-2007, 09:51 PM
Kevin Smith made the Walter Camp All American Team!

Smith and McFadden were the only 2 RBs to make it...


They definatly are the top 2 RBs in the nation...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UXDdPKfrZqY

BamaFalcon59
12-06-2007, 10:07 PM
Sanders- 11 games
Kevin Smith- 14 games

I think it's easy to say Sanders would have handidly surpassed 3,000 yards in 14 games. Something a QB can be proud of.

FinNasty
12-06-2007, 10:32 PM
Sanders- 11 games
Kevin Smith- 14 games

I think it's easy to say Sanders would have handidly surpassed 3,000 yards in 14 games. Something a QB can be proud of.

Oh, I dont think anyone believes that this season is more impressive than Barry's.

Barry's is just unfathomable...

LonghornsLegend
12-06-2007, 11:43 PM
Oh, I dont think anyone believes that this season is more impressive than Barry's.

Barry's is just unfathomable...


Yea granted Kevin Smith's season is special, but it doesnt compare up to Barry's and the number of games he did it in, and the conference

fenikz
12-07-2007, 12:57 AM
Matt Forté > Kevin Smith

SuperKevin
12-07-2007, 01:03 AM
Matt Forté > Kevin Smith

You just started a worthless argument

FinNasty
12-07-2007, 07:25 AM
Matt Forté > Kevin Smith

Forte is great... but he is not better than 24k...

DanteXavier
12-08-2007, 02:05 AM
Matt Forté > Kevin Smith

And this post was necessary because....?

SuperKevin
12-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Forte is great... but he is not better than 24k...

In my opinion, Forte is a better all around RB than Kevin Smith because he brings more to the passing game and is a stronger blocker. However, Kevin Smith's potential as a running back is much higher than Matt Forte's

BufFan71
12-08-2007, 01:07 PM
In my opinion, Forte is a better all around RB than Kevin Smith because he brings more to the passing game and is a stronger blocker. However, Kevin Smith's potential as a running back is much higher than Matt Forte's

smith is actually a really good receiver out of the backfield
21rec 230yds 1td

SuperKevin
12-08-2007, 01:09 PM
smith is actually a really good receiver out of the backfield
21rec 230yds 1td

Yeah but he's not as good of a reciever as Forte is in my opinion