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49ersfan_87
11-08-2007, 06:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835


The Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min) have docked wide receiver Troy Williamson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7183) one game check for missing last Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sdg) to attend the Monday funeral of his maternal grandmother.


That is just wrong.

Ewing
11-08-2007, 06:41 PM
What a bunch of douchebags.

T-RICH49
11-08-2007, 06:41 PM
wow is the NFLPA going to rip Minnesota a new one or what once they appeal

Scotty D
11-08-2007, 06:43 PM
Stay classy Minnesota.

NYGibril28
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Stay classy Minnesota.

Go **** yourself Minnesota.

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
What were they thinking.

no love
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Wow. Just wow.

If I were Williamson I would not want to go back to an organization that had such little respect.

When a player like Farve or Gore plays in a game after the death of a close relative, it is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. In each case, the coaches let them know that they did not have to play, but both players wanted to be in there, because of how instrumental they were to the teams.

It is TROY WILLIAMSON, he has NINE catches all year.

Sorry for the rant, but that is infuriating

UKfan
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
That's absolutely disgusting, really is.

SeanTaylorRIP
11-08-2007, 06:50 PM
It's pretty clear the past few years they are one of the lowest organizations in the NFL, just wait until AD skips practice for a birth of a child and they suspend him 3 games.

Ewing
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
It's pretty clear the past few years they are one of the lowest organizations in the NFL, just wait until AD skips practice for a birth of a child and they suspend him 3 games.

I can just imagine seeing this at the bottom of the ticker...

"Adrian Peterson suspended three games for missing practice while finding a cure for cancer."

Splat
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
"I don't care if they would have [taken] my pay for the rest of the year, I was going home," Williamson told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "It wouldn't have mattered to me."

When it comes down to it the game of football is just that a GAME there are bigger things this is pretty low.

bigbluedefense
11-08-2007, 06:59 PM
They shouldve fined him paychecks for sucking so much. But for this....thats inexcusable.

Thats classless.

T-RICH49
11-08-2007, 07:00 PM
I can just imagine seeing this at the bottom of the ticker...

"Adrian Peterson suspended three games for missing practice while finding a cure for cancer."

or better yet

"Vikes cut Adrian Peterson when he gives sight to a blind man"

soybean
11-08-2007, 07:01 PM
When it comes down to it the game of football is just that a GAME there are bigger things this is pretty low.

quote of the year.

The Unseen
11-08-2007, 07:04 PM
The Vikings make me LOL

WMD
11-08-2007, 07:04 PM
Wow, what idiots.

bigbluedefense
11-08-2007, 07:06 PM
They should fine Brad Childress for saying that Tavaris Jackson would be the next Donovann McNabb.

The Dynasty
11-08-2007, 07:08 PM
That is terrible. Vikings are way to Strict with there players but When its Personal Reason of Death you shouldn't be punished for that.

Coach Brad Childress told Twin Cities-area media following Thursday's practice that the decision was on a "business principle" of the Vikings organization.

"He had a family obligation that he had to see to," Childress said. "We sat down and talked on it before he left. ... He had to do what he had to do. Everybody handles that differently. [Williamson] had to do what his family situation called for."

That being said, Childress gtfo.

scottyboy
11-08-2007, 07:09 PM
I like Williamson, even though he sucks. He played it well. that missing pay all year quote was great. Going to a close relatives funeral is prefectly fine and takes priority over work, and in this case, his work is football, a game

T-RICH49
11-08-2007, 07:10 PM
They should fine Brad Childress for saying that Tavaris Jackson would be the next Donovann McNabb.

that should be considred a firable offense

Vikes99ej
11-08-2007, 07:16 PM
Thank God I just root for the team that plays on the field.

TCU
11-08-2007, 07:20 PM
I understand if you miss the game you dont give money but what i though was class-less was how Childress mentioned other players who returned to play after a funeral. The Vikes could have at least split it or allowed him to earn it back through incentives.

brat316
11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
I think the Vikings thought that he should play the game and should have attened the funeral after the game flown there.

But this is a pretty duche move by them, i guess the Viking are just cheap.

neko4
11-08-2007, 08:00 PM
I hope Williamson comes to GB now

brat316
11-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Troy hasn't done much, but Troy in GB would give Brett 2 deepball WR.

The Dynasty
11-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Troy hasn't done much, but Troy in GB would give Brett 2 deepball WR.

Williamson Would Over Run it or Let it hit him in the head/ hands and drop it.

ny10804
11-08-2007, 08:11 PM
Well at least the $25,588 will offset the PR hit...

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9647/notvv0.png

ironman4579
11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
The NFL has just become full of douchebaggery lately.

brat316
11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
ahahha, i havn't seen the ball hit him in the head.

bearsfan_51
11-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Williamson makes millions of dollars a year, sorry if I don't give a ****.

The Dynasty
11-08-2007, 08:14 PM
ahahha, i havn't seen the ball hit him in the head.

well i figure it bound to happen if he went to gb. Favre Rocket Arm and Troy's Speed. Favre hits him right in the helmet lol. It would be funny to see.

Twiddler
11-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Just for this, we're going to kick the living **** out of them this weekend. That and because well, we're rivals.

And that's pretty low of them. It's unbelievable, how can a team be run with such little class?

BuckNaked
11-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Just for this, we're going to kick the living **** out of them this weekend. That and because well, we're rivals.

And that's pretty low of them. It's unbelievable, how can a team be run with such little class?

Due to the fact that Brad Childress is a douchebag.

mqtirishfan
11-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Williamson makes millions of dollars a year, sorry if I don't give a ****.

It's more of the principle of the thing. They shouldn't fine him for being with his family in this situation. Childress looks like a giant assbag by using examples of how other players stayed. Each situation and person is different, and you can't punish someone for this. Would you be happy if your boss took away 1/16th of your annual salary over this?

mqtirishfan
11-08-2007, 08:19 PM
well i figure it bound to happen if he went to gb. Favre Rocket Arm and Troy's Speed. Favre hits him right in the helmet lol. It would be funny to see.

Favre would throw it so hard that it would lodge itself inside his helmet and he'd just run in for a TD.

ironman4579
11-08-2007, 08:21 PM
If a tree falls in the forest did the Vikings fine it for going to it's dead grandmothers funeral?

GB12
11-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Williamson makes millions of dollars a year, sorry if I don't give a ****.
It's not about the money, it's just a dick move. If you think that's nothing to Williamson what's it to a billionaire owner

bearsfan_51
11-08-2007, 08:23 PM
It's more of the principle of the thing. They shouldn't fine him for being with his family in this situation. Childress looks like a giant assbag by using examples of how other players stayed. Each situation and person is different, and you can't punish someone for this. Would you be happy if your boss took away 1/16th of your annual salary over this?
Obviously it's pretty classless, but considering I make about 1/100th what he does I'm not exactly tearing my hair out over it.

He said it himself, it's just a game, and he makes millions of dollars to do it. I'm sure he'll be fine.

And they didn't fine him. They just didn't pay him. There's a HUGE difference.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
11-08-2007, 09:16 PM
probably the worst worst football related thing i've ever heard. That is about as low as it gets. I hope people look at that when they consider going to the Viks in the offseason. Is that type of treatment appealing?

Smokey Joe
11-08-2007, 09:20 PM
well, in all fairness, Troy Williamson robbed the Vikings out of a lot of money a couple years ago in the draft...

Stash
11-08-2007, 09:30 PM
It's pretty clear the past few years they are one of the lowest organizations in the NFL, just wait until AD skips practice for a birth of a child and they suspend him 3 games.

I think it was last year that they cut somebody on Christmas Day, they are just ruthless.

osi+ap=allshallperish
11-08-2007, 09:32 PM
maybe it's just an excuse to get him to leave the team, cause if they just cut him for sucking they'd have to pay him more?

PACKmanN
11-08-2007, 09:33 PM
well, in all fairness, Troy Williamson robbed the Vikings out of a lot of money a couple years ago in the draft...

he robbed nothing the Vikings robbed themselves and it isn't the first time.


Why would they fine him for this is beyond me.

Turtlepower
11-08-2007, 09:38 PM
I think it was last year that they cut somebody on Christmas Day, they are just ruthless.

WR Marcus Robinson Cut on Christmas Eve (http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/articles/20061227/817211-p.html)

Twiddler
11-08-2007, 10:25 PM
he robbed nothing the Vikings robbed themselves and it isn't the first time.


Why would they fine him for this is beyond me.

As BF stated before, they just didn't pay him, not fine him.

P-L
11-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Why is this such a big deal? If I told my work I had a funeral to go to, they'd be fine with it. However, they sure as hell aren't going to pay me for not showing up to work. Williamson didn't get in trouble or get "fined," he simply wasn't paid because he didn't work. I agree with the poster who suggested that the Vikes should give him a chance to earn it back (through incentives or whatever else) but I fail to see how they are "absolutely classless" for not paying an employee who didn't come to work.

Nitschke-Hawk
11-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Williamson was the 7th pick, he must have a bunch of that money in bonuses. That salary isn't that high for a top 10 pick.

But yeah that's BS, and they were the ones trying to turn it into a "classy" organization. Way to go Brad and Zygi and whoever else calls the shots over there.

Sportsfan486
11-08-2007, 10:56 PM
Why is this such a big deal? If I told my work I had a funeral to go to, they'd be fine with it. However, they sure as hell aren't going to pay me for not showing up to work. Williamson didn't get in trouble or get "fined," he simply wasn't paid because he didn't work. I agree with the poster who suggested that the Vikes should give him a chance to earn it back (through incentives or whatever else) but I fail to see how they are "absolutely classless" for not paying an employee who didn't come to work.

qft? If he got FINED it's a different story.. but.. if an employee isn't there.. he/she doesn't get paid. Kinda elementary business practice there.

ALTHOUGH you COULD look at it as a football player being more of a salary, based on yearly income, and salary employees don't get docked for not working, obviously.

I dunno, whatever. The dude is loaded and he's not in trouble or anything, so who cares?

Man_Of_Steel
11-08-2007, 11:04 PM
He wasnt at the game, so he shouldnt get a check for the game.

steelernation77
11-08-2007, 11:07 PM
He wasnt at the game, so he shouldnt get a check for the game.

Plenty of employers will give paid leave when there's a loss in the family. For a Canadian you're not much of a socialist.

Sniper
11-08-2007, 11:10 PM
What a ******* joke

BroadwayJoe10
11-09-2007, 12:03 AM
and for an encore they poured salt in his gas tank, kicked his puppy, and slept with his mother...all kidding aside, i agree 100% with whoever said that he should be able to earn his money back in incentives.

The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter how much money he makes or how well he is liked, any time you "punish" (whether fining or misholding money) someone for choosing their family over their work the employer will, and should, look like an ass. Especially when it is the death of a family member, and a grandmother nonetheless. THere is no way that the vikes can spin this in a remotely positive direction; I really think the only thing they can do to save face is say it was a clerical error and he will have the ability to regain his money etc.

BrownsTown
11-09-2007, 12:06 AM
This is just stupid beyond words.

Jakey
11-09-2007, 06:28 AM
The Vikings suck balls

BaLLiN
11-09-2007, 06:51 AM
Childress's granny would whoop his a** if she saw this

rchrd
11-09-2007, 07:15 AM
Why is this such a big deal? If I told my work I had a funeral to go to, they'd be fine with it. However, they sure as hell aren't going to pay me for not showing up to work. Williamson didn't get in trouble or get "fined," he simply wasn't paid because he didn't work. I agree with the poster who suggested that the Vikes should give him a chance to earn it back (through incentives or whatever else) but I fail to see how they are "absolutely classless" for not paying an employee who didn't come to work.

Nail, head, hit, on, the.

Sveen
11-09-2007, 08:18 AM
Wow. Just wow.

The Legend
11-09-2007, 11:27 AM
RIP Grandma Williamson

T-RICH49
11-09-2007, 11:47 AM
RIP Grandma Williamson

I second that

Vikes99ej
11-09-2007, 12:40 PM
God people are so stupid. THEY DIDN'T FINE HIM, THEY JUST DIDN'T GIVE HIM HIS GAME CHECK FOR THAT DAY. Quit just going by the title and the first posts of this thread.

badgerbacker
11-09-2007, 12:50 PM
Why is this such a big deal? If I told my work I had a funeral to go to, they'd be fine with it. However, they sure as hell aren't going to pay me for not showing up to work. Williamson didn't get in trouble or get "fined," he simply wasn't paid because he didn't work. I agree with the poster who suggested that the Vikes should give him a chance to earn it back (through incentives or whatever else) but I fail to see how they are "absolutely classless" for not paying an employee who didn't come to work.
Exactly. People have been saying that football is a game and family is more important. That is absolutely right, but for football players, football is their job and all Williamson did was take unpaid time off. They shouldn't be expected to pay him when he's not working.

RyanLeaf#1
11-09-2007, 12:52 PM
I cant believe a team would actually do this to their players.

Vikes99ej
11-09-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm not defending what the Vikings did, but Williamson missed 9 days in a row.

Moses
11-09-2007, 02:29 PM
What's the uproar about? He didn't get his game check because he didn't show up for work. Why would you pay him for doing nothing?

nrk
11-09-2007, 02:37 PM
It's more of the principle of the thing. They shouldn't fine him for being with his family in this situation. Childress looks like a giant assbag by using examples of how other players stayed. Each situation and person is different, and you can't punish someone for this. Would you be happy if your boss took away 1/16th of your annual salary over this?

No one gets paid to not show up. You can't expect to miss work and get paid still. However, Childress is an asshole.

no love
11-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Obviously it's pretty classless, but considering I make about 1/100th what he does I'm not exactly tearing my hair out over it.

He said it himself, it's just a game, and he makes millions of dollars to do it. I'm sure he'll be fine.

And they didn't fine him. They just didn't pay him. There's a HUGE difference.

What difference does it make when either way you don't get your money. Say they fine him for one game salary but pay him the salary, then either way its a zero sum gain. Sure "to fine" sounds worse than "dock pay" but when the monetary value is equal it is irrelevant.

Oh and for those who are arguing that he didn't get paid because he didn't show up for work. Most companies that give a damn about their employees are given paid time off for bereavement, it's a standard policy in most professional occupations.

Scotty D
11-09-2007, 03:26 PM
Childress just looks like an ass and a child molester.

Ewing
11-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Childress just looks like an ass and a child molester.

He's probably at least one of those.

nrk
11-09-2007, 03:36 PM
What difference does it make when either way you don't get your money. Say they fine him for one game salary but pay him the salary, then either way its a zero sum gain. Sure "to fine" sounds worse than "dock pay" but when the monetary value is equal it is irrelevant.

Oh and for those who are arguing that he didn't get paid because he didn't show up for work. Most companies that give a damn about their employees are given paid time off for bereavement, it's a standard policy in most professional occupations.

The NFL isn't like most professional occupations.

yo123
11-09-2007, 03:49 PM
The Vikings suck balls


You have a way with words. Beautiful.

But as a Vikings fan, I still think this is classless.

JK17
11-09-2007, 04:42 PM
On one hand its unfortunate, because someone who lost a family member like that shouldn't suffer the consequences of losing money for it, but like other people in this thread said, football is a game, but its also his job. He took time off, like he should have, but you can't expect to be payed when your not working. I know there are things like paid time off, and I know some businesses may provide pay during a crisis like this, but the NFL isn't like any other business. For starters, its not a 9-5 schedule, the season is much shorter, although there is offseason work, for the most part, its not as structured as other jobs.

It's sad he won't get paid in such a crisis; but he didn't do anything to get paid for.

LonghornsLegend
11-09-2007, 07:36 PM
"I don't care if they would have [taken] my pay for the rest of the year, I was going home," Williamson told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "It wouldn't have mattered to me."

When it comes down to it the game of football is just that a GAME there are bigger things this is pretty low.

your absolutely right, this says it all...Thats a great quote by williamson, if he didnt suck he would be one of my favorite players right now

Beans
11-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Why is this such a big deal? If I told my work I had a funeral to go to, they'd be fine with it. However, they sure as hell aren't going to pay me for not showing up to work.

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JetMan
11-10-2007, 02:09 PM
VIKES CAVE ON WILLIAMSON PAY

Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that the Minnesota Vikings have decided to pay receiver Troy Williamson his salary for Week Nine.

Previously, the team had decided to dock Williamson one game check because he missed Sunday's contest against the Chargers due to the death of his grandmother.

Coach Brad Childress said that he made the decision after discussing the matter with ownership and the team's leadership council.

"In the end, after conversations with the Wilfs and the leadership group, [the Vikings] decided that he [should] receive that paycheck," Childress said. "The big thing is, everybody grieves differently. That's the message conveyed to me by the group."

Childress addressed the team on Saturday morning regarding the issue, and he also has spoken with Williamson about it.

The broader question, however, is whether paying Williamson the money is enough to reverse the damage. Our guess is that Williamson won't want to play for the team come 2008, if Childress is still the coach. And we doubt that the move will be enough to calm a burgeoning mutiny among the veteran players and the coaching staff.

In fact, it's possible that the reversal could actually fuel more hard feelings against Childress, if the impression that Childress conveys through his words and/or demeanor is that he changed course only because someone named Wilf twisted the coach's arm.

Reversal of fortune guys. Literally. Per PFT.

The Dynasty
11-10-2007, 02:20 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3103651

It is true, they gave him his pay check.

Bills2083
11-10-2007, 04:26 PM
They probably just did it for PR. I'm sure it wasn't a 'change of heart'

T-RICH49
11-10-2007, 04:29 PM
this probably had more to do with public backlash then anything but still good they gave it back

BamaFalcon59
11-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Has Williamson had the drop problems this year? He has/had a lot of potential.

The Dynasty
11-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Has Williamson had the drop problems this year? He has/had a lot of potential.

I think so but not has bad as last year.