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Babylon
11-10-2007, 06:58 PM
This would be the award for the Wes Welkers, Antonio Gates and Chris Cooleys of the world. The nominees are;

Jacob Tamme, TE Kentucky
Fred Davis, TE USC
Jordy Nelson ,WR Kansas State
Evan Moore, Wr Stanford

NYGibril28
11-10-2007, 08:35 PM
Moore?

Evan Moore = Clarence Moore.

Tremendous height. Nothing else.

NYGibril28
11-10-2007, 08:36 PM
Donnie Avery, Houston, WR
Eddie Royal, Virginia Tech, WR
Travis Beckum, Wisconsin, TE (Jr.)

Hines
11-10-2007, 08:38 PM
Harry Douglas WR Louisville

Babylon
11-10-2007, 08:40 PM
Moore?

Evan Moore = Clarence Moore.

Tremendous height. Nothing else.

Have you ever seen him play?

619
11-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Harry Douglas WR Louisville

probably this years top slot receiver

Babylon
11-10-2007, 08:51 PM
probably this years top slot receiver

How's his numbers?

GB12
11-10-2007, 08:53 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0101/ncf_ap_beckum_412.jpg

Babylon
11-10-2007, 08:56 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0101/ncf_ap_beckum_412.jpg

Good choice

jared
11-10-2007, 08:58 PM
Rick Gosselin wrote a pretty good article about slot receivers and the skillset required to play the position a month ago:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/stories/101207dnsponflslotwr.3b25eb5.html
I don't know quite what you're getting at with the guys you listed. I think Jordy has the size/speed combo to be split out wide. Although frankly he's shown the versatility to play pretty much anything. As far as TE's who are essentially WR's but "listed as TE's" a la Dallas Clark, I'd say Jacob Tamme and Travis Beckum definitely fit the mold. I've said before that I think Air Force's RB/WR Chad Hall has similar size and athleticism to Wes Welker, but it's hard to tell just how good he would be as a slot guy as AF doesn't pass enough.

NYGibril28
11-10-2007, 09:11 PM
Have you ever seen him play?

A few games. Never been impressed. His injury history scares me too.

etk
11-10-2007, 09:13 PM
Rudy Burgess
Darius Reynaud
Dexter Jackson (App St.)
Kenny Moore
Harry Douglas - best of the best, as previously mentioned.

Babylon
11-10-2007, 09:15 PM
Rudy Burgess
Darius Reynaud
Dexter Jackson (App St.)
Kenny Moore
Harry Douglas - best of the best, as previously mentioned.

I'll go with Nelson's 99 catches as the best slot receiver.

etk
11-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I'll go with Nelson's 99 catches as the best slot receiver.

I'll go with Douglas' acceleration and ability to catch in traffic, along with his impressive stats.

NYGibril28
11-10-2007, 09:22 PM
I'll go with Douglas' acceleration and ability to catch in traffic, along with his impressive stats.

I'll go with Donnie Avery's sub 4.4 speed and outstanding agility and hands.

Hines
11-10-2007, 09:27 PM
I'll go with Donnie Avery's sub 4.4 speed and outstanding agility and hands.

douglas has very similar, if not better, skillset as avery

NYGibril28
11-10-2007, 09:29 PM
douglas has very similar, if not better, skillset as avery

Yeah so. If I admit to that then my case doesn't look as good.

etk
11-10-2007, 09:34 PM
I also forgot to mention Davone Bess, Jr. He's got the production, speed, acceleration and he can jump.

nhlkdog411
11-11-2007, 12:33 PM
jordy nelson a slot reciever? he's 6'3'' 220 pounds and runs at worst in the 4.4s....are you serious? Slot guys tend to be either small and ferociously quick or very big so that they can mismatch on lbs if they are quick or nickelbacks if they are huge.

TACKLE
11-11-2007, 12:40 PM
How's his numbers?

In 8 games Harry Douglas has 62 catches 977 yards, 6TD's.

Babylon
11-11-2007, 12:46 PM
jordy nelson a slot reciever? he's 6'3'' 220 pounds and runs at worst in the 4.4s....are you serious? Slot guys tend to be either small and ferociously quick or very big so that they can mismatch on lbs if they are quick or nickelbacks if they are huge.

You want me to be serious now? I have no doubt he could split out wide but i think in an ideal situation he would have someone like an Andre Johnson wide to clear out the middle of the field and Nelson could have safeties and LBs cover him. You dont have to sell me on Jordy Nelson.:)

Travis 24
11-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I like Reynaud...He could be a tremendous 3rd WR in the NFL

Sniper
11-11-2007, 01:23 PM
Adrian Arrington.

etk
11-11-2007, 02:28 PM
I like Reynaud...He could be a tremendous 3rd WR in the NFL

I compare him to Ike Hilliard. An underneath receiver who's strong and can fight for first downs. He still has good deep speed, though.

P-L
11-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Travis Beckum is going to be a slot receiver in the NFL and very good one.

no love
11-12-2007, 12:05 AM
I think Lavelle Hawkins from Cal is going to be a real good slot wr in the pros. Every week he continues to impress me, he can really do it all and he is excellent over the middle.

Good height at 6'2" and a little on the small side at 181 he has good speed and quicks and has that competitiveness to want to go up and get the ball. In the pros he will probably have trouble beating the jam, but as a slot guy I think he could excel.

He also returns kickoffs.

kwilk103
11-12-2007, 12:26 AM
reynauds eligible to return next year if he graduates on time

hes a partial qualifier

Gchu83
11-12-2007, 10:40 AM
If he comes out, Quan Cosby should be on the list. He's a little undersized but has good speed and good hands. Also returns kicks and punts.

etk
11-12-2007, 08:42 PM
If he comes out, Quan Cosby should be on the list. He's a little undersized but has good speed and good hands. Also returns kicks and punts.

Not a bad mention, I like Cosby, but why would he declare?

reynauds eligible to return next year if he graduates on time

hes a partial qualifier

WVU's offense could be scary next year.

junior2430
11-13-2007, 02:33 AM
Travis Brown, New Mexico - Decent speed, great hands, great route running, and very good at reading coverages.

hot route
11-25-2007, 03:31 PM
davone bess has to be included in any slot receiver discussion, especially after that boise st. game. dude was making DBs look silly all over the open field.

Gi-15
11-26-2007, 04:21 PM
Danny Amendola from texas tech, basically Welker 2.0

Babylon
11-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Danny Amendola from texas tech, basically Welker 2.0

If that's the case he must be loving Welker's success with the Pats.

Gchu83
11-26-2007, 06:05 PM
Not a bad mention, I like Cosby, but why would he declare?


Cosby is already 24 years old, he's had a really good season and I'm not sure how much he could raise his stock by staying another year and being 25 by the time the draft comes around.

Mack Brown does have the knack for keeping players til' their senior year but most Longhorn fans feel that this would be the best time for Cosby to declare.

D-Unit
11-26-2007, 06:20 PM
If he declares... There's none better than Davone Bess.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6964/davonebessleaps6mw.jpg

etk
11-26-2007, 06:22 PM
If he declares... There's none better than Davone Bess.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6964/davonebessleaps6mw.jpg

I'm gonna wait and see until both prospects work out in the spring, but it's most likely between Bess & Douglas for that honour. Bess is arguably the best YAC receiver in the draft so that helps his cause.

ncst8fan83
11-26-2007, 06:27 PM
Definitely not the best, but I'll be interested to see Darrell Blackman in the slot. Preston Parker would be a guy I'd watch too.

D-Unit
11-26-2007, 06:28 PM
I'm gonna wait and see until both prospects work out in the spring, but it's most likely between Bess & Douglas for that honour. Bess is arguably the best YAC receiver in the draft so that helps his cause.
Not sure his timed speed will be the fastest, but knows how to get separation... and his HANDS... he's so clutch. 15 catches, 181 yards and 2 TDs vs Boise... He makes catches that are simply unbelievable and he's the hardest worker on the team without a doubt.

Ryan Grice-Mullen is faster than Bess, but he's probably returning for his senior year.

bspen4
11-26-2007, 07:51 PM
I'll go with Douglas' acceleration and ability to catch in traffic, along with his impressive stats.

Do you honestly think that Douglas can catch better in traffic than Jordy Nelson. Have you ever seen him play?

draftguru151
11-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Nelson had 2 drops in traffic in the Nebraska game, and while Douglas doesn't catch everything, neither does Nelson. Nelson is definitely one of the most overrated players on the board right now.

Babylon
11-26-2007, 09:27 PM
Nelson had 2 drops in traffic in the Nebraska game, and while Douglas doesn't catch everything, neither does Nelson. Nelson is definitely one of the most overrated players on the board right now.

Watched the Nebraska game and dont remember seeing Nelson drop 2 in traffic but a guy that catches 120 passes may drop one occasionally dont you think? As for him being overrated you hardly ever see his name in a mock on this site even ones that go 3 rounds, how is that overrated?

Favre4ever
11-26-2007, 10:25 PM
I like Reynaud...He could be a tremendous 3rd WR in the NFL

When i saw the thread title, hes the first player who came up to my mind. Hes a tremendous athlete and playing on a running team, a lot of people just doesnt know how good he actually is.

etk
11-26-2007, 10:35 PM
Watched the Nebraska game and dont remember seeing Nelson drop 2 in traffic but a guy that catches 120 passes may drop one occasionally dont you think? As for him being overrated you hardly ever see his name in a mock on this site even ones that go 3 rounds, how is that overrated?

By in large he's not overrated but the Nelson fanboys do way too much to overcompensate. A few select individuals proclaiming he's "by far the best WR in the draft" is enough for overrated consideration IMO.

jared
11-26-2007, 10:51 PM
By in large he's not overrated but the Nelson fanboys do way too much to overcompensate. A few select individuals proclaiming he's "by far the best WR in the draft" is enough for overrated consideration IMO.
I suppose I'm one of the biggest cheerleaders for Nelson right now. It's just annoying because when I make a list of attributes anybody wants in a receiver, Jordy possesses all of them in spades. I can't say that about any other receiver in the draft. So far, the best (only?) knock anyone can come up with is they read on xyz draftsite.com (unsubstantiated as far as I can tell) that he runs a 4.6+ 40. Seriously, that's IT. It's also a claim that flies in the face of game tape/performance as well as his record-breaking track background. But xyz posted it so it must be true I guess. When I hear someone make a SINGLE legitamate claim as to what he lacks as a WR prospect, we can talk. The fact that he's even mentioned as anything but a 1st day prospect is laughable and puzzling to me. A seriously underrated prospect who is championed by a few sane people that can't figure out why he's being overlooked.

Geomar
11-28-2007, 09:14 PM
1.Darnell Jenkins-Miami
2.Harry Douglas-Louisville
3.Lavelle Hawkins-Cal
4.Darius Reynaud-WVU
5.Dexter Jackson-App ST.

These are true slot recievers.

etk
11-28-2007, 10:42 PM
1.Darnell Jenkins-Miami
2.Harry Douglas-Louisville
3.Lavelle Hawkins-Cal
4.Darius Reynaud-WVU
5.Dexter Jackson-App ST.

These are true slot recievers.

Jenkins has been a rare bright spot for us, but I think you're overrating him a bit much.