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[ccB]

The other one was all screwed up so we are starting fresh.


BTW I deleted by accident instead of locking...so the regulars in here's post counts are probably lower than they were. Im still getting used to the mod powers...forgive me.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Wow I had over 300 posts in that thread. You should have kept that thread and let the Bulls fans post in there about Gordon vs. Hinrich.

[ccB]

Wow I had over 300 posts in that thread. You should have kept that thread and let the Bulls fans post in there about Gordon vs. Hinrich.Yeah my bad about the missing posts... Yeah shoulda retitled it bulls discussion and let them argue about why Pau gasol is not good for them.

[comahan]

rofl charm.

[NYmoney]

Wow I had over 300 posts in that thread. You should have kept that thread and let the Bulls fans post in there about Gordon vs. Hinrich.

lol. that's great.

[NYmoney]

The other one was all screwed up so we are starting fresh.


BTW I deleted by accident instead of locking...so the regulars in here's post counts are probably lower than they were. Im still getting used to the mod powers...forgive me.

what was screwed up about it?

[ccB]

The other one was all screwed up so we are starting fresh.


BTW I deleted by accident instead of locking...so the regulars in here's post counts are probably lower than they were. Im still getting used to the mod powers...forgive me.

what was screwed up about it?It had the "no posts exist" thing and it hought it would stop after it got to a new page but it didnt so I made a new one.

[NYmoney]

The other one was all screwed up so we are starting fresh.


BTW I deleted by accident instead of locking...so the regulars in here's post counts are probably lower than they were. Im still getting used to the mod powers...forgive me.

what was screwed up about it?It had the "no posts exist" thing and it hought it would stop after it got to a new page but it didnt so I made a new one.

good call brother.

[ricky bobby]

Kevin Durant to the Sixers!!!!!!!!!

[ccB]

Kevin Durant to the Sixers!!!!!!!!! That would be a waste. They already have Carney and Iggy at SF, Oden is what they really need.

[Craigo]

I think we should have an NBA discussion thread and a Chicago Bulls discussion thread.

I bet the bulls thread would be bigger.

[NYmoney]

I think we should have an NBA discussion thread and a Chicago Bulls discussion thread.

I bet the bulls thread would be bigger.

the largest of them all would be a "Why I, _____, Hate Kirk Hinrich." I feel like he's the red headed step child of this board.

[D-Unit]

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/0607game51_vs_spurs_2.jpg

My F'n Hero!

[jayceheathman]

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/0607game51_vs_spurs_2.jpg

My F'n Hero!

I wish I had ups like that. If I am lucky I can touch the rim.... Philly has some potetial next year. They have quite a few draft picks.

[ccB]

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/0607game51_vs_spurs_2.jpg

My F'n Hero!

I wish I had ups like that. If I am lucky I can touch the rim.... Philly has some potetial next year. They have quite a few draft picks.Yeah Howards sick...like the avy sig. Sixers wont be nothing for a long time yet. Next year they are still gonna raw. Maybe they can bag Derrick Rose and Oden.

[D-Unit]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

[Ravens1991]

That would be awesome seeing Howard win, do people think that Gilert Areneas has a MVP shot?

[ccB]

That would be awesome seeing Howard win, do people think that Gilert Areneas has a MVP shot?He does but hes been on a bit of cold streak.

[Ravens1991]

Yea he got some bad press after he guarenteed 50, but he is a beast.

[ccB]

Yea he got some bad press after he guarenteed 50, but he is a beast.I honestly think that everyone wants Nash to get his 3rd, so thats who I think will get it. Although I think that Gilbert is more important to the Wizards sucess than Nash w/ the suns. Although both are very important pieces to their teams. I wouldnt be mad if Nash got it. The suns are my 2nd favorite team.

[jayceheathman]

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/0607game51_vs_spurs_2.jpg

My F'n Hero!

I wish I had ups like that. If I am lucky I can touch the rim.... Philly has some potetial next year. They have quite a few draft picks.Yeah Howards sick...like the avy sig. Sixers wont be nothing for a long time yet. Next year they are still gonna raw. Maybe they can bag Derrick Rose and Oden.

They have 3 first round picks so they will definitely be raw but they will have some potential. I would like to see Oden or Durant teamed up with Iguadalla. Philly is praying that Denver starts sucking. Maybe they can get that monster freshman from Uconn too.

[ccB]

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/0607game51_vs_spurs_2.jpg

My F'n Hero!

I wish I had ups like that. If I am lucky I can touch the rim.... Philly has some potetial next year. They have quite a few draft picks.Yeah Howards sick...like the avy sig. Sixers wont be nothing for a long time yet. Next year they are still gonna raw. Maybe they can bag Derrick Rose and Oden.

They have 3 first round picks so they will definitely be raw but they will have some potential. I would like to see Oden or Durant teamed up with Iguadalla. Philly is praying that Denver starts sucking. Maybe they can get that monster freshman from Uconn too.Nah theres no chance they get Thabeet but I think they should take Acie Law with the denver pick. Could be the PG of the future.

[NYmoney]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.

[ccB]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.

http://www.draftexpress.com/gallery/GeraldGreen/1112093419.jpg

Your Winner: Gerald Green

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.

[ccB]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.

[A-Dub4President]

Gerald Green has this one. Don't let me down.

Also, somebody needs to tell the Hawks to stop winning. Here I was hoping for Al Horford in a Suns uniform, and now I'm looking at Budinger/Thornton.

[D-Unit]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.
http://www.alexrudloff.com/media/2006/08/dwight-howard.jpg

[ccB]

Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.

I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.
http://www.alexrudloff.com/media/2006/08/dwight-howard.jpgDoing things that have never been done before leads to a win in the slam dunk contest and that sure as hell is something Ive never seen done before.

[D-Unit]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?

[wingboy2999]

Nah theres no chance they get Thabeet but I think they should take Acie Law with the denver pick. Could be the PG of the future.

There is no chance they get Thabeet because he sucks this year and won't be coming out.

[ccB]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

[NYmoney]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too ******** to even listen to trade offers this season.

[ccB]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.Well there was supposed to be a Ron Artest trade to the Clippers but I think that deal is dead now.

[NYmoney]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.Well there was supposed to be a Ron Artest trade to the Clippers but I think that deal is dead now.

I heard Bibby's on the block too. Imagine how great he would be on Miami. That would be unreal. Just magical.

[Dillen]

Sixers wont be nothing for a long time yet. Next year they are still gonna raw. Maybe they can bag Derrick Rose and Oden.


Nah theres no chance they get Thabeet but I think they should take Acie Law with the denver pick. Could be the PG of the future.
If the 76ers have a good draft I bet they'll win the division next year. They're something like 12-13 with Miller. Throw on a stud and a couple of other firsts, letting Carney play, and still being in an abysmal division makes me think they'll do much better next year.


I'd absolutely hate for the 76ers to draft Acie Law. Can't stand him at all. Shoots way too much. Isn't all that quick. I want someone like Mustafa Shakur that is the classic pass first PG.

[D-Unit]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
I would love Paul Pierce on the Magic! Magic can offer Hill's expiring contract. Can't get better than that if they are going to start from scratch.

Most of the rumors I've heard have been around Vince Carter.

[NYmoney]

And yes they could work the deal with Wright, Posey, and 1st rounder for Bibby. Herald is reporting talks.

[NYmoney]

With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.

No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
I would love Paul Pierce on the Magic! Magic can offer Hill's expiring contract. Can't get better than that if they are going to start from scratch.

Most of the rumors I've heard have been around Vince Carter.

You gotta trade VC if your the Nets. They are going to get nothing in return if they don't act soon.

[Bearsfan123]

Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Gerald Green has this one. Don't let me down.

Also, somebody needs to tell the Hawks to stop winning. Here I was hoping for Al Horford in a Suns uniform, and now I'm looking at Budinger/Thornton.

Yeah I know they just can't stop winning.

[D-Unit]

Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.

[sweetness34]

Wow I had over 300 posts in that thread. You should have kept that thread and let the Bulls fans post in there about Gordon vs. Hinrich.

:wink:

hinch started it.

:P

I think Deng's game is a lot like Scottie's. Scottie was a great player, but he wasn't a centerpiece. When MJ retired, he kinda slipped, but when MJ came back, he was dynamite again.

Deng is the same why IMO. I think he's an awesome player, but he needs another guy by his side to be most effective.

[Bearsfan123]

Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.

oh dont misunderstand, i just dont believe he would do well in the starting role yet. He should still get considerable minutes. Im thinkin year 3-4 he blossoms, after hes learned what it is to be a pro and how to work like one. Plus with all the energy he brings defensively, id like that energy to come off and spark my team if needed. (Well him and Noc would do that well)

[Philliez01]

Someone offered me this bet;

Tyler Hansborough goes in the Top-10 if he were to declare this year. I say that he won't and he's a mid-to-late 1st rounder but I am wondering if this is a decent bet to take on?

[NYmoney]

Someone offered me this bet;

Tyler Hansborough goes in the Top-10 if he were to declare this year. I say that he won't and he's a mid-to-late 1st rounder but I am wondering if this is a decent bet to take on?


take that bet. he is not a top 10 this year. too much talent. nbadraft.net has him at 27.

[NYmoney]

Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.

oh dont misunderstand, i just dont believe he would do well in the starting role yet. He should still get considerable minutes. Im thinkin year 3-4 he blossoms, after hes learned what it is to be a pro and how to work like one. Plus with all the energy he brings defensively, id like that energy to come off and spark my team if needed. (Well him and Noc would do that well)

here's what's crazy about the whole Noc signing, he was an undrafted FA. so that's just another notch in Paxson's belt of laudable moves. he really is a great GM.

[alca1992]

if the celtics let go of peirce i will go crazy (not in a good way)

[ccB]

if the celtics let go of peirce i will go crazy (not in a good way)Its only fair to the guy. I mean your team is in full blown rebuilding mode. Let him goto a contender and play for a championship before he gets too old.

[Ravens1991]

I agree, they could get a solid piece to rebuild if they trade him.

[ccB]

Rudy Gaye shoulda been in the slam dunk contest.

[ny10804]

David Lee for MVP.

[ccB]

David Lee for MVP.Id say so. Hes got like 5 or 6 dunks so far. These kind of games suck from a technical stand point. But they are fun to watch none the less

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Man the Rooks are so terrible other than Paul Milsap.

[Jughead10]

I had already planned on picking up a David Lee jersey when I head into the city on Sunday. This just confirms my decision. He is blatantly the best all around Knick. I don't know why he doesn't start.

[ny10804]

David Lee for MVP.Hooray.

[Brodeur]

This game just proves my two pregame theories: David Lee is a beastly man and Adam Morrison blows.

[NYmoney]

This game just proves my two pregame theories: David Lee is a beastly man and Adam Morrison blows.


David Lee is the most entertaining player out there right now.

[NYmoney]

i'm proud to live in the same city as David Lee. He's a new age Manhattanite Hero.

[M.O.T.H.]

Trade deadline is coming up. As of right now it looks like the Magic are looking not to make a move...ugh. We need a SG big time, someone like a Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, or even a Reshard Lewis who can play the two. It would make the magic that much more dangerous... you get a scorer in their... your're going to see Nelson's assists go up and his overall game improve tremendously and it's going to draw pressure away from Dwight down low. Can you imagine...

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Vince Carter
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

Hedo would most likely be starting at the 3 but, I would love for it to look like this. I can dream but, they're going to get a star eventually in there, if not this year, definitely next season.

[Bearsfan123]

Trade deadline is coming up. As of right now it looks like the Magic are looking not to make a move...ugh. We need a SG big time, someone like a Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, or even a Reshard Lewis who can play the two. It would make the magic that much more dangerous... you get a scorer in their... your're going to see Nelson's assists go up and his overall game improve tremendously and it's going to draw pressure away from Dwight down low. Can you imagine...

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Vince Carter
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

Hedo would most likely be starting at the 3 but, I would love for it to look like this. I can dream but, they're going to get a star eventually in there, if not this year, definitely next season.

you guys got a backup big man to trade? We got Gordon. lol

[M.O.T.H.]

Trade deadline is coming up. As of right now it looks like the Magic are looking not to make a move...ugh. We need a SG big time, someone like a Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, or even a Reshard Lewis who can play the two. It would make the magic that much more dangerous... you get a scorer in their... your're going to see Nelson's assists go up and his overall game improve tremendously and it's going to draw pressure away from Dwight down low. Can you imagine...

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Vince Carter
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

Hedo would most likely be starting at the 3 but, I would love for it to look like this. I can dream but, they're going to get a star eventually in there, if not this year, definitely next season.

you guys got a backup big man to trade? We got Gordon. lol

Tony Battie for Gordan... I'd do it. :D

[HawkeyeFan]

Seems more and more likely that Jason Kidd could be dealt to the Lakers.

http://www.hzmdesigns.com/Zenith/uploads/None-Wallpapers/kiddlakers.jpg

[M.O.T.H.]

Seems more and more likely that Jason Kidd could be dealt to the Lakers.

http://www.hzmdesigns.com/Zenith/uploads/None-Wallpapers/kiddlakers.jpg

The Nets would get so ripped off, it wouldnt be worth it, IMO.

It is shocking that they are so bad, talent wise the Nets should be a top three team in the East.

[ccB]

I heard that the Magic are staying away from Vince Carter because they dont want him to impede Dwight Howards development.

[M.O.T.H.]

I heard that the Magic are staying away from Vince Carter because they dont want him to impede Dwight Howards development.

I havent heard that... I've heard they wouldnt trade for him this year but, that they do have interest to sign him as an FA next year.

Edit...I saw what you said on Ben Maller just now. It'll be interesting to see what direction GM, Otis Smith wants to go in.

[M.O.T.H.]

Scottie Pippen and Shawn Kemp eyeing NBA comebacks.

[D-Unit]

Trade deadline is coming up. As of right now it looks like the Magic are looking not to make a move...ugh. We need a SG big time, someone like a Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, or even a Reshard Lewis who can play the two. It would make the magic that much more dangerous... you get a scorer in their... your're going to see Nelson's assists go up and his overall game improve tremendously and it's going to draw pressure away from Dwight down low. Can you imagine...

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Vince Carter
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

Hedo would most likely be starting at the 3 but, I would love for it to look like this. I can dream but, they're going to get a star eventually in there, if not this year, definitely next season.
Carter is not bad... I wanna see this.

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Gerald Wallace
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

That's money baby!

Back ups
PG Carlos Arroyo
SG JJ Redick
6th Hedo Turkoglu
PF Tony Battie
C James Augustine

[Dillen]

Scottie Pippen and Shawn Kemp eyeing NBA comebacks.
Kemp's been trying to comeback for years. He never shows up to his tryout date.

Seems more and more likely that Jason Kidd could be dealt to the Lakers.

http://www.hzmdesigns.com/Zenith/uploads/None-Wallpapers/kiddlakers.jpg

The Nets would get so ripped off, it wouldnt be worth it, IMO.

It is shocking that they are so bad, talent wise the Nets should be a top three team in the East.

There was also talk about Mike Bibby being traded to the Lakers. It would be interesting to see what kind of stats Kobe would put up with and elite PG playing with him.

[ccB]

East or West today? I say East but im bias.

[NYGibril28]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

[sweetness34]

Trade deadline is coming up. As of right now it looks like the Magic are looking not to make a move...ugh. We need a SG big time, someone like a Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, or even a Reshard Lewis who can play the two. It would make the magic that much more dangerous... you get a scorer in their... your're going to see Nelson's assists go up and his overall game improve tremendously and it's going to draw pressure away from Dwight down low. Can you imagine...

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Vince Carter
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

Hedo would most likely be starting at the 3 but, I would love for it to look like this. I can dream but, they're going to get a star eventually in there, if not this year, definitely next season.
Carter is not bad... I wanna see this.

PG Jameer Nelson
SG Gerald Wallace
SF Trevor Ariza
PF Darko Milicic
C Dwight Howard

That's money baby!

Back ups
PG Carlos Arroyo
SG JJ Redick
6th Hedo Turkoglu
PF Tony Battie
C James Augustine

And who would you be giving up then? You can't just have Gerald Wallace D-Unit. :?

[WildDude]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

[NYGibril28]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.

[ccB]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

[NYGibril28]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen.

What do you think would make it more even? The Nets throw in like Antoine Wright? Maybe a pick?

[WildDude]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen.

What do you think would make it more even? The Nets throw in like Antoine Wright? Maybe a pick?

yep nets fan here... well why would the lakers want antoine wright hes a bust but the lakers could very well give us luke walton or Chris Mihm knowing the nets itll be somethin we dont like

[sweetness34]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

I think the Nets would be getting a steal with that deal. Richardson is a darn good player when he's healthy, and Pietrus is a good shooter with a lot of offensive ability. Foyle, eh it's a big man. I like that deal for the Nets.

Although it could be a log jam for PT at the 2 and 3.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Shaq is just so washed up now.

[ccB]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

I think the Nets would be getting a steal with that deal. Richardson is a darn good player when he's healthy, and Pietrus is a good shooter with a lot of offensive ability. Foyle, eh it's a big man. I like that deal for the Nets.

Although it could be a log jam for PT at the 2 and 3.Well VC is probably gone next year through FA so that would clear J Rich to start.

[sweetness34]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

I think the Nets would be getting a steal with that deal. Richardson is a darn good player when he's healthy, and Pietrus is a good shooter with a lot of offensive ability. Foyle, eh it's a big man. I like that deal for the Nets.

Although it could be a log jam for PT at the 2 and 3.Well VC is probably gone next year through FA so that would clear J Rich to start.

Ah yea, forgot about that. Then I really like the deal for the Nets. If they can trade VC and get something, and then get JR, that'd be a good move IMO.

[wingboy2999]

Did anyone else see Tracy McGrady say "Huge Boobs" in the replay at the end of the 1st quarter? Complete with hand motion.

[dcrls]

Anyone seen how amazingly hawt Eva Longoria is looking??

if anyone has a pic, please let us see the beauty

[Ward]

It's official: Dirk won't be the MVP.

Why? you ask. Because The Hoff endorsed him. That's as good as a death sentence.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2885943&page=1

[D-Unit]

It's official: Dirk won't be the MVP.

Why? you ask. Because The Hoff endorsed him. That's as good as a death sentence.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2885943&page=1
Dirk won't ever win the MVP until he learns to be a leader.

[D-Unit]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

I think the Nets would be getting a steal with that deal. Richardson is a darn good player when he's healthy, and Pietrus is a good shooter with a lot of offensive ability. Foyle, eh it's a big man. I like that deal for the Nets.

Although it could be a log jam for PT at the 2 and 3.Well VC is probably gone next year through FA so that would clear J Rich to start.
VC will either be traded to Orlando this week or he will be there next season. If he's still a Net after this week, he'll opt out.

I really don't want the Magic to pull off a trade for VC if we have to give up Hedo, Ariza, Redick or Darko.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

[Jughead10]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

[NYmoney]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

David Lee is as untouchable as Eddy Curry. Why? Because Isiah's just that crazy of a SOB that you'll ever meet.

[WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?]

how valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

When is the last time Peter Vescey got a rumor right? I really doubt GS would give up J-Rich for Kidd and it isn't because J-Rich is better than Kidd but it really doesn't improve GS. With Kidd it will only move Baron to the two and he doesn't shoot close to a good % for a two. It also wouldn't solve the Warriors rebounding problem or not having a true 4. The only way I would do this is if you replace J-Rich with Baron but I doubt Baron has much value. I think Kidd will end up with the Lakers.

[NYmoney]

dhow valid are the Kidd to LA rumors? I love Kidd, one of my favorite players, but Marcus Williams is going to be great someday, the sooner he gets PT the better.

The Nets are my team btw, they are underachieving greatly. Nenad Krstic going down hurt them more than I thought it would. Jefferson should be traded IMO, they can still get good value for him.

well i wouldnt mind the kidd trades but only because of marcus williams he seems like the real deal and hes alot younger... but i want to at least get good value for him this may be a bit of a strech but andrew bynum would never happen in a million years tha kind of deal

Nets fan as well?

How about Lamar Odom and Smush Parker for Kidd? I would love to see that.Theyd be stupid to give up Odom and Parker for Kidd, I dont think it would happen. I just read that the warriors are interested and the deal would look like this...

Kidd
Collins

For

Richardson
Foyle
Pietrus



I think NJ would be getting the best of the deal. Kidds got like maybe 3 good years left in him.

When is the last time Peter Vescey got a rumor right? I really doubt GS would give up J-Rich for Kidd and it isn't because J-Rich is better than Kidd but it really doesn't improve GS. With Kidd it will only move Baron to the two and he doesn't shoot close to a good % for a two. It also wouldn't solve the Warriors rebounding problem or not having a true 4. The only way I would do this is if you replace J-Rich with Baron but I doubt Baron has much value. I think Kidd will end up with the Lakers.
Baron is shooting better this year because he's not launching up 3's anymore. However, he is still a 40% career shooter.

[Bearsfan123]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

Will Isiah even talk with the Bulls? I was thinking maybe Frye and another small contract for Noc. It would give cap relief at the end of the year. (Plus i dont see the Bulls able to keep him ;_; )


Also, Josh Smith and Luol Deng are the future All-Stars in the East.

Another trade thought, although Washington doesnt want to deal with a rival, moving Etan Thomas or the other guy is imperative (since the fights at practice) So could it happen?

[NYmoney]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

Will Isiah even talk with the Bulls? I was thinking maybe Frye and another small contract for Noc. It would give cap relief at the end of the year. (Plus i dont see the Bulls able to keep him ;_; )


Also, Josh Smith and Luol Deng are the future All-Stars in the East.

Another trade thought, although Washington doesnt want to deal with a rival, moving Etan Thomas or the other guy is imperative (since the fights at practice) So could it happen?

Haywood and Thomas battle for minutes. It's great for Washington because the entire locker room is ridiculously cohesive outside of those two. So that rivalry only helps them. I doubt you'll see either traded. Especially when Haywood and Thomas have a running total of how many victories the team has when either one starts.

As for Noc, why wouldn't he be resigned? The Bulls are very far under the cap. Personally, I think we should trade him though because where is TT going to find the minutes if Noc and Deng start over him? I'm starting to wish we would have traded down for Roy or maybe even kept Aldridge.

[Bearsfan123]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

Will Isiah even talk with the Bulls? I was thinking maybe Frye and another small contract for Noc. It would give cap relief at the end of the year. (Plus i dont see the Bulls able to keep him ;_; )


Also, Josh Smith and Luol Deng are the future All-Stars in the East.

Another trade thought, although Washington doesnt want to deal with a rival, moving Etan Thomas or the other guy is imperative (since the fights at practice) So could it happen?

Haywood and Thomas battle for minutes. It's great for Washington because the entire locker room is ridiculously cohesive outside of those two. So that rivalry only helps them. I doubt you'll see either traded. Especially when Haywood and Thomas have a running total of how many victories the team has when either one starts.

As for Noc, why wouldn't he be resigned? The Bulls are very far under the cap. Personally, I think we should trade him though because where is TT going to find the minutes if Noc and Deng start over him? I'm starting to wish we would have traded down for Roy or maybe even kept Aldridge.

no, i read that they cant stand being in the same room anymore. I guess its getting close to punches when they are in the same vicinity.

Edit: As for the Draft i was hoping we would grab Roy. But TT is going to be great.

[NYmoney]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

As long as they aren't trading David Lee, I'm happy.

Will Isiah even talk with the Bulls? I was thinking maybe Frye and another small contract for Noc. It would give cap relief at the end of the year. (Plus i dont see the Bulls able to keep him ;_; )


Also, Josh Smith and Luol Deng are the future All-Stars in the East.

Another trade thought, although Washington doesnt want to deal with a rival, moving Etan Thomas or the other guy is imperative (since the fights at practice) So could it happen?

Haywood and Thomas battle for minutes. It's great for Washington because the entire locker room is ridiculously cohesive outside of those two. So that rivalry only helps them. I doubt you'll see either traded. Especially when Haywood and Thomas have a running total of how many victories the team has when either one starts.

As for Noc, why wouldn't he be resigned? The Bulls are very far under the cap. Personally, I think we should trade him though because where is TT going to find the minutes if Noc and Deng start over him? I'm starting to wish we would have traded down for Roy or maybe even kept Aldridge.

no, i read that they cant stand being in the same room anymore. I guess its getting close to punches when they are in the same vicinity.

Edit: As for the Draft i was hoping we would grab Roy. But TT is going to be great.

They've been in 2 fights this year. I know of 1 more from last season. The first fight this year Brendan Haywood pulled out one of E'tan Thomas' locks. They definitely hate each other. But I just wonder if that rivalry is helping them play harder and harder.

[Bearsfan123]

It has gotten to the point, one Washington Wizards source said, where it is virtually impossible for centers Brendan Haywood and Etan Thomas to sit in the same room without wanting to trade haymakers. They went at it again last week in practice, and the Wizards have given up hope that they'll ever be able to get these two players to co-exist. The result is that Washington is listening to offers between now and the deadline.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-notebook021707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[SeanTaylorRIP]

If one were to be moved it should be Brendan because he has more value, probably a late first rounder, and Etan fits better in our Suns like system.

[NYmoney]

If one were to be moved it should be Brendan because he has more value, probably a late first rounder, and Etan fits better in our Suns like system.
Good luck getting a late first rounder for Brendan. He started the year a backup.

[D-Unit]

If one were to be moved it should be Brendan because he has more value, probably a late first rounder, and Etan fits better in our Suns like system.
I'd welcome Etan to the Magic. The Magic need front court depth pretty badly.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Jiri Welsh, Kurt Thomas, Sasha Pavolic, and Lammond Murray were traded for first rounders so I think a young 7 foot Center is worthy of one.

[Donno]

Their are rumors going that Bibby will be traded, who do you guys think Sacramento can get for trading Bibby and Artest in a package deal. We are desperate for an All Star player as we have been for years. So who? I was thinking maybe Bibby for Gasol or something.

[thetedginnshow]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

I don't know if I'd mind. I'm almost certain Rashard won't be coming back next season, and losing him now could only make our lottery pick look better. Plus, Nate would get to come home and our FO is enamored with Big's so Frye couldn't hurt. I'd love it if they decided to give us a future first rounder instead of another random player though.

[yo123]

Possible Trade Rumor:
Nate Robinson
Channing Frye
Another Contract yet to be named for:

Rashard Lewis.

I don't know if I'd mind. I'm almost certain Rashard won't be coming back next season, and losing him now could only make our lottery pick look better. Plus, Nate would get to come home and our FO is enamored with Big's so Frye couldn't hurt. I'd love it if they decided to give us a future first rounder instead of another random player though.



Yeah I like that trade for the Sonics. Frye is a future all star imo and Nate Robinson probably will never be amazing because of his height but he can give you a energy/defense guy with the ability to score.

[M.O.T.H.]

Magic/Nets rumors are heating up, of course Otis Smith is denying everything right now but, many experts think VC is coming to Orlando. I heard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick's names getting thrown around a lot.

[NYmoney]

Magic/Nets rumors are heating up, of course Otis Smith is denying everything right now but, many experts think VC is coming to Orlando. I heard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick's names getting thrown around a lot.

I know you have to give up some value, but I think JJ is vastly underrated right now. that inside outside combo with Darko/Dwight and JJ could be lethal in 2 years.

[SimonRath]

i was thinkin about NBA trades at school, and what if Orlando didn't trade T-Mac and they had Dwight Howard and T-Mac on the same team.. not bad huh

[ccB]

i was thinkin about NBA trades at school, and what if Orlando didn't trade T-Mac and they had Dwight Howard and T-Mac on the same team.. not bad huh If they didnt trade McGrady they most likely wouldnt have been bad enough to get the 1st pick in the lottery.

[sweetness34]

Magic/Nets rumors are heating up, of course Otis Smith is denying everything right now but, many experts think VC is coming to Orlando. I heard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick's names getting thrown around a lot.

Per ESPN, VC could be going to the Clippers that would involve Corey McGhette (sp?).

[ccB]

Magic/Nets rumors are heating up, of course Otis Smith is denying everything right now but, many experts think VC is coming to Orlando. I heard Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick's names getting thrown around a lot.

Per ESPN, VC could be going to the Clippers that would involve Corey McGhette (sp?).I posted a rumor a while ago about this. Another one involed the Grizzlies in a 3-team trade that involved Gasol, Livingston,Cater, Magette, marcus williams and more.

[ny10804]

Oh baby, Knicks begin their playoff run with a win over the Magic. D-Lee with 16 rebounds. Curry showed his prowess and pulled down 6...

[sweetness34]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.

[M.O.T.H.]

Time to make a deal magic, that was awful.

For the record...The Magic already had the #1 overall pick when they traded Mcgrady. They could have had both him and Howard but, they chose not to. T-Mac wanted out.

[ccB]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.Yeah I was watching it, t was close until after halftime.

[JagHombre22]

I heard on ESPN about thirty minutes ago that a deal for Kidd to the Lakers wouldn't be done if VC didn't get moved...so everything hinders on VC getting out of Jersey...and I also heard a discussion about VC to the Clippers...wouldn't it be weird if Kidd and Carter ended up in the same city but on different teams....???

[WMD]

Orlando needs to lose some more.. Pistons have their Round 1 Pick.. though I think it's Top 6 protected.. I talked to Joe Dumars on AIM last night and he said he's going to trade both of our Round 1's this year, and our round 1 next year to whoever has #1 so they can select ODEN.

[P-L]

Orlando needs to lose some more.. Pistons have their Round 1 Pick.. though I think it's Top 6 protected.. I talked to Joe Dumars on AIM last night and he said he's going to trade both of our Round 1's this year, and our round 1 next year to whoever has #1 so they can select ODEN.

I just texted Bill Davidson and he says you're full of ****.

[sweetness34]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.Yeah I was watching it, t was close until after halftime.

No offense to GS because I know the Hawks are his boys, but they are awful. I don't think I've seen more bad shot selection then I saw tonight.

And we didn't even play well until the 2nd Half.

[ccB]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.Yeah I was watching it, t was close until after halftime.

No offense to GS because I know the Hawks are his boys, but they are awful. I don't think I've seen more bad shot selection then I saw tonight.

And we didn't even play well until the 2nd Half.I dont think they are awful. They are just very young. They are atleast showing improvement year to year. They are just very streaky, I mean you beat Phoenix one game you lose to the Bulls the next. As the core matures the shot selection will also improve. They have probably more potential than any team in the league. They need a true PG to spread the ball around. If you put any of the elite PG's in the league on that team theyd be a playoff team no doubt in my mind.

[Namy]

anyone see Bucher and Greg Anthony basically go at it about Las Vegas I think? That was pretty awkward but effing hilarious hahahah!!

[sweetness34]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.Yeah I was watching it, t was close until after halftime.

No offense to GS because I know the Hawks are his boys, but they are awful. I don't think I've seen more bad shot selection then I saw tonight.

And we didn't even play well until the 2nd Half.I dont think they are awful. They are just very young. They are atleast showing improvement year to year. They are just very streaky, I mean you beat Phoenix one game you lose to the Bulls the next. As the core matures the shot selection will also improve. They have probably more potential than any team in the league. They need a true PG to spread the ball around. If you put any of the elite PG's in the league on that team theyd be a playoff team no doubt in my mind.

Well they looked awful. I thought they made a HUGE mistake by not taking a guy like Foye in this years draft.

[yodapoop]

Cubs Suck!

[A-Dub4President]

Ahhhh, it feels good to have Nash back. We're taking of care of business tonight.

[ccB]

We are beating the Hawks by 25 points right now. They didn't score a FG in the 3rd Quarter and had I think 8 points or something like that. :shock:

Sloppy game though.Yeah I was watching it, t was close until after halftime.

No offense to GS because I know the Hawks are his boys, but they are awful. I don't think I've seen more bad shot selection then I saw tonight.

And we didn't even play well until the 2nd Half.I dont think they are awful. They are just very young. They are atleast showing improvement year to year. They are just very streaky, I mean you beat Phoenix one game you lose to the Bulls the next. As the core matures the shot selection will also improve. They have probably more potential than any team in the league. They need a true PG to spread the ball around. If you put any of the elite PG's in the league on that team theyd be a playoff team no doubt in my mind.

Well they looked awful. I thought they made a HUGE mistake by not taking a guy like Foye in this years draft.Yup not taking Foye or Roy was a mistake but not a huge one. The huge mistake was taking Marvin Williams when they already had Smith Childress over Chris Paul or Deron Williams even.

Could you imagine...

PG Chris Paul
SG Joe Johnson
SF Josh Childress
PF Josh Smith
C Zaza Pachulia

With Roy, Foye, or possibly even Rudy Gaye coming off the bench.

[TH3]

am i the only one not sold on Kevin Durant as the next big thing

[sweetness34]

am i the only one not sold on Kevin Durant as the next big thing

Probably not. But he's the real deal.

[ccB]

am i the only one not sold on Kevin Durant as the next big thing

Probably not. But he's the real deal. Greg Oden is the next big thing. Kevin Durant = Rashard Lewis if he was better at grabbing boards.

[ccB]

Another thing........Wizards beat the T-Wolves tonight. Gilbert had 38 pts and 7 boards, pretty good for a "side show" huh

[sweetness34]

am i the only one not sold on Kevin Durant as the next big thing

Probably not. But he's the real deal. Greg Oden is the next big thing. Kevin Durant = Rashard Lewis if he was better at grabbing boards.

Kevin Durant = a cross between Garnett and T-Mac IMO. He's got Tracy's athletic ability with KG's size.

[thetedginnshow]

He's really got T-Mac's athleticism with Rashard's size and drive. If he starts to play with more heart (and consequently, better defense), he can be the next big thing. It's Oden by far right now though IMO, who may seriously consider going back to school anyway.

I don't know if Arenas going for 38 (and 1-8 from three) is so much to brag about against the T-Wolves. Garnett's a stud, but he can't be the one guarding Arenas, and certainly no one else on that team can guard any Guard or Forward on the Wizards. Hell, DeShawn Stevenson was the most productive of the night for Washington.

[ccB]

He's really got T-Mac's athleticism with Rashard's size and drive. If he starts to play with more heart (and consequently, better defense), he can be the next big thing. It's Oden by far right now though IMO, who may seriously consider going back to school anyway.

I don't know if Arenas going for 38 (and 1-8 from three) is so much to brag about against the T-Wolves. Garnett's a stud, but he can't be the one guarding Arenas, and certainly no one else on that team can guard any Guard or Forward on the Wizards. Hell, DeShawn Stevenson was the most productive of the night for Washington.Scoring 38 and grabbing 7 rebs (for a pg I might add) is always something to brag about not that I was even bragging. I was more so just putting it out there for all the people who were saying Arenas was a novelty act. I do believe the timberwolves are the 8th seed in the west so anytime we beat a playoff caliber team its a good thing. Gilberts shot was off all night but he was driving to the hoop like a champ and since Jamison is out Gilbert is going to have to step up and take even more shots than usual. I mean we are starting Andray Blatche someone who couldnt start on probably any team in the league (But will be a really good player soon hes developing quickly) and we pulled out a win so I am very happy. Deshawn was productive but not hte most productive. Only thing Deshawn did better than Gil last night was he shot a better percentage going 9-11, Gilbert still shot 50% plus got to the line and went 13-15. Other than the off night from deep I dont see what there is to be mad about. Ill take 38 pts 7 Rebs 4 assists 2 steals and a win against a western conference playoff team (as of right now) any day of the week.


Also I dont care what any of the Kevin Durant groupies say Greg Oden is THE prospect of this draft. Any other draft i'd give Durant the nod for clear cut number 1 but Greg Oden is OFFICIAL and will be a difference maker in the league. Kevin Durant does not have KG's body either... Hes built like a thinner Rashard Lewis and he plays the same game Lewis does, stays out on the perimeter jacking up 3's. He needs to develop his inside game better and he needs to put on muscle. Sure he can grab 15 boards in college but once he gets in the NBA with the big boys he will get ate up.

[NYmoney]

He's really got T-Mac's athleticism with Rashard's size and drive. If he starts to play with more heart (and consequently, better defense), he can be the next big thing. It's Oden by far right now though IMO, who may seriously consider going back to school anyway.

I don't know if Arenas going for 38 (and 1-8 from three) is so much to brag about against the T-Wolves. Garnett's a stud, but he can't be the one guarding Arenas, and certainly no one else on that team can guard any Guard or Forward on the Wizards. Hell, DeShawn Stevenson was the most productive of the night for Washington.Scoring 38 and grabbing 7 rebs (for a pg I might add) is always something to brag about not that I was even bragging. I was more so just putting it out there for all the people who were saying Arenas was a novelty act. I do believe the timberwolves are the 8th seed in the west so anytime we beat a playoff caliber team its a good thing. Gilberts shot was off all night but he was driving to the hoop like a champ and since Jamison is out Gilbert is going to have to step up and take even more shots than usual. I mean we are starting Andray Blatche someone who couldnt start on probably any team in the league (But will be a really good player soon hes developing quickly) and we pulled out a win so I am very happy. Deshawn was productive but not hte most productive. Only thing Deshawn did better than Gil last night was he shot a better percentage going 9-11, Gilbert still shot 50% plus got to the line and went 13-15. Other than the off night from deep I dont see what there is to be mad about. Ill take 38 pts 7 Rebs 4 assists 2 steals and a win against a western conference playoff team (as of right now) any day of the week.


Also I dont care what any of the Kevin Durant groupies say Greg Oden is THE prospect of this draft. Any other draft i'd give Durant the nod for clear cut number 1 but Greg Oden is OFFICIAL and will be a difference maker in the league. Kevin Durant does not have KG's body either... Hes built like a thinner Rashard Lewis and he plays the same game Lewis does, stays out on the perimeter jacking up 3's. He needs to develop his inside game better and he needs to put on muscle. Sure he can grab 15 boards in college but once he gets in the NBA with the big boys he will get ate up.

he's 19. of course he isn't the size of KG right now. people are saying that he has the frame of KG.

[ccB]

He's really got T-Mac's athleticism with Rashard's size and drive. If he starts to play with more heart (and consequently, better defense), he can be the next big thing. It's Oden by far right now though IMO, who may seriously consider going back to school anyway.

I don't know if Arenas going for 38 (and 1-8 from three) is so much to brag about against the T-Wolves. Garnett's a stud, but he can't be the one guarding Arenas, and certainly no one else on that team can guard any Guard or Forward on the Wizards. Hell, DeShawn Stevenson was the most productive of the night for Washington.Scoring 38 and grabbing 7 rebs (for a pg I might add) is always something to brag about not that I was even bragging. I was more so just putting it out there for all the people who were saying Arenas was a novelty act. I do believe the timberwolves are the 8th seed in the west so anytime we beat a playoff caliber team its a good thing. Gilberts shot was off all night but he was driving to the hoop like a champ and since Jamison is out Gilbert is going to have to step up and take even more shots than usual. I mean we are starting Andray Blatche someone who couldnt start on probably any team in the league (But will be a really good player soon hes developing quickly) and we pulled out a win so I am very happy. Deshawn was productive but not hte most productive. Only thing Deshawn did better than Gil last night was he shot a better percentage going 9-11, Gilbert still shot 50% plus got to the line and went 13-15. Other than the off night from deep I dont see what there is to be mad about. Ill take 38 pts 7 Rebs 4 assists 2 steals and a win against a western conference playoff team (as of right now) any day of the week.


Also I dont care what any of the Kevin Durant groupies say Greg Oden is THE prospect of this draft. Any other draft i'd give Durant the nod for clear cut number 1 but Greg Oden is OFFICIAL and will be a difference maker in the league. Kevin Durant does not have KG's body either... Hes built like a thinner Rashard Lewis and he plays the same game Lewis does, stays out on the perimeter jacking up 3's. He needs to develop his inside game better and he needs to put on muscle. Sure he can grab 15 boards in college but once he gets in the NBA with the big boys he will get ate up.

he's 19. of course he isn't the size of KG right now. people are saying that he has the frame of KG.You mean like people said Darius Miles had KGs frame? Durant is not a PF, hes a SF. If he put on about 40 lbs of muscle he could be an elite PF. But he wont so he will be a SF end of story. Dont like the KG comparison at all.

[D-Unit]

Durant reminds me of Eddie Griffin while he was at Memphis.... before his drug issues.

[NYmoney]

Durant reminds me of Eddie Griffin while he was at Memphis.... before his drug issues.

in response to your sig. Dwight should start putting stickers all over the backboard, every time he dunks. i would like to see that.

[D-Unit]

I'm anxious for some trading to happen!

[ccB]

I'm anxious for some trading to happen!Yeah I am hoping there is a big trade somewhere. I think the biggest trade will invole Mike Bibby.

[TH3]

Durant reminds me of Eddie Griffin while he was at Memphis.... before his drug issues.

seton hall not memphis

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Durant will be a career 20+8 kind of guy with probably around 3-5 All star years. The true next big thing SF prospect is Michael Beasley Carmelo times 2.

[D-Unit]

Durant reminds me of Eddie Griffin while he was at Memphis.... before his drug issues.

seton hall not memphis
That's right. Grifiin was a beast. A lot more technical, but less explosive... actually, that may not be the best comparison...

I think Durant will have a great NBA career. Once he fills out, he'll be a force to be wreakoned with. Hate the T-Mac comparisons... Lamar Odom might be a good comparison...

[ccB]

Durant reminds me of Eddie Griffin while he was at Memphis.... before his drug issues.

seton hall not memphis
That's right. Grifiin was a beast. A lot more technical, but less explosive... actually, that may not be the best comparison...

I think Durant will have a great NBA career. Once he fills out, he'll be a force to be wreakoned with. Hate the T-Mac comparisons... Lamar Odom might be a good comparison...Lamar Odom comparisons are nice for like his physical appearance but Odom is probably a better passer and Durant is a better shooter. Decent comparison.

[bernbabybern820]

He's really got T-Mac's athleticism with Rashard's size and drive. If he starts to play with more heart (and consequently, better defense), he can be the next big thing. It's Oden by far right now though IMO, who may seriously consider going back to school anyway.

I don't know if Arenas going for 38 (and 1-8 from three) is so much to brag about against the T-Wolves. Garnett's a stud, but he can't be the one guarding Arenas, and certainly no one else on that team can guard any Guard or Forward on the Wizards. Hell, DeShawn Stevenson was the most productive of the night for Washington.Scoring 38 and grabbing 7 rebs (for a pg I might add) is always something to brag about not that I was even bragging. I was more so just putting it out there for all the people who were saying Arenas was a novelty act. I do believe the timberwolves are the 8th seed in the west so anytime we beat a playoff caliber team its a good thing. Gilberts shot was off all night but he was driving to the hoop like a champ and since Jamison is out Gilbert is going to have to step up and take even more shots than usual. I mean we are starting Andray Blatche someone who couldnt start on probably any team in the league (But will be a really good player soon hes developing quickly) and we pulled out a win so I am very happy. Deshawn was productive but not hte most productive. Only thing Deshawn did better than Gil last night was he shot a better percentage going 9-11, Gilbert still shot 50% plus got to the line and went 13-15. Other than the off night from deep I dont see what there is to be mad about. Ill take 38 pts 7 Rebs 4 assists 2 steals and a win against a western conference playoff team (as of right now) any day of the week.


Also I dont care what any of the Kevin Durant groupies say Greg Oden is THE prospect of this draft. Any other draft i'd give Durant the nod for clear cut number 1 but Greg Oden is OFFICIAL and will be a difference maker in the league. Kevin Durant does not have KG's body either... Hes built like a thinner Rashard Lewis and he plays the same game Lewis does, stays out on the perimeter jacking up 3's. He needs to develop his inside game better and he needs to put on muscle. Sure he can grab 15 boards in college but once he gets in the NBA with the big boys he will get ate up.

he's 19. of course he isn't the size of KG right now. people are saying that he has the frame of KG.

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/kevindurant.html

i think hes 18. hes younger than me and im pushing 5'7. :cry:

[thetedginnshow]

I hope the Sonics trade Rashard. I don't want to just trade him to trade him, as I'd want pretty good value, but still. Get a bunch of guys for the future, or even a pick. Does anyone know of any other teams potentially interested in him beyond the Knicks?

[ccB]

I hope the Sonics trade Rashard. I don't want to just trade him to trade him, as I'd want pretty good value, but still. Get a bunch of guys for the future, or even a pick. Does anyone know of any other teams potentially interested in him beyond the Knicks?I heard that the Sonics werent interested in trading Allen or Lewis.

[Windy]

if we trade bynum in a trade for kidd i will be very very very upset.

[ccB]

if we trade bynum in a trade for kidd i will be very very very upset.I heard the lakers arent willing to give up Bynum and the only way the Nets accept a trade from them is if Bynum is included. So I think that trade is pretyt much dead.

[Jughead10]

So it looks like the NBA All Star weekend in Vegas was a failure. Along with the All Star game, the NBA brought with it the biggest crime weekend in Vegas history apparently. Three times the amount of arrests than their normally worst weekend which is New Years.

[ccB]

Some trade rumors...


Jamal Magloire to the wizards for Jarvis Hayes and Etan Thomas


Jason Kidd to the Clippers for Shaun Livingston and Corey Magette


Since the Gasol trade died the Bulls are reportedly interested in Shareef Abdur Raheem and Zach Randolph.


Eric Snow and Drew gooden for Mike Bibby

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Some trade rumors...


Jamal Magloire to the wizards for Jarvis Hayes and Etan Thomas


Jason Kidd to the Clippers for Shaun Livingston and Corey Magette


Since the Gasol trade died the Bulls are reportedly interested in Shareef Abdur Raheem and Zach Randolph.


Eric Snow and Drew gooden for Mike Bibby

Not sure if I like that trade too much for the Wiz, well first off Jarvis is a piece of junk and I would pay for him to leave, thing is I like Etan a lot and not sure he isn't better than Magloire, but if him and Haywood can't stick a very good trade as Magloire is very solid, but I'd rather Brendan leave. 2nd trade don't know why the Clippers would do that. Give away a future stud PG and a solid SG for Kidd who has little less than 3 good years left and I don't truly believe that the Clip would challenge for the Title.

[ccB]

Some trade rumors...


Jamal Magloire to the wizards for Jarvis Hayes and Etan Thomas


Jason Kidd to the Clippers for Shaun Livingston and Corey Magette


Since the Gasol trade died the Bulls are reportedly interested in Shareef Abdur Raheem and Zach Randolph.


Eric Snow and Drew gooden for Mike Bibby

Not sure if I like that trade too much for the Wiz, well first off Jarvis is a piece of junk and I would pay for him to leave, thing is I like Etan a lot and not sure he isn't better than Magloire, but if him and Haywood can't stick a very good trade as Magloire is very solid, but I'd rather Brendan leave. 2nd trade don't know why the Clippers would do that. Give away a future stud PG and a solid SG for Kidd who has little less than 3 good years left and I don't truly believe that the Clip would challenge for the Title.Id rather get rid of etan than Brendan. Etans contract is huge.

[WMD]

I don't see why the Nets would trade Kidd for Shaun Livingston, unless there's something they hate about Marcus Williams.

[thetedginnshow]

I hope the Sonics trade Rashard. I don't want to just trade him to trade him, as I'd want pretty good value, but still. Get a bunch of guys for the future, or even a pick. Does anyone know of any other teams potentially interested in him beyond the Knicks?I heard that the Sonics werent interested in trading Allen or Lewis.

They're interested in trading Rashard if they can get good value, because not only are they not the biggest spenders, but it's evident that with Hill as coach and the pieces they currently have in place, there isn't much good that will come of re-signing him anyway. They're content with keeping him though, but if they can get some young guys with potential, they'll just as easily do that.

[WMD]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

[gio]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

Then where does the Pistons picking Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh rank?

[WMD]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

Then where does the Pistons picking Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh rank?

Darko was the player I wanted all along. We had a SG in Rip Hamilton, a SF in Tayshaun Prince.. It seemed like only the Pistons and some of their fans knew he'd barely play his first year or two. Anyways, I think it worked out just fine for us.. We traded for Rasheed Wallace, and won the NBA Championship that year.

[D-Unit]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.
THE CURSE OF DARKO!!!!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/27921761.jpg

The Magic will prevail!!! Watch out for Darko... He's coming off a 21point, 8 rebound, 2 block game!

Thank you Larry Brown! Thank you!!!

Orlando's Darko Milicic, who played his first two NBA seasons under Brown in Detroit, blames the former Knick coach for stalling his development and hamstringing his career. "I thought he did. I was supposed to get a chance in Detroit, but I didn't," Milicic, the 7-foot center who came to Orlando along with Carlos Arroyo in a trade last February, said last night. "He was supposed to give me a chance to see what I could do, but he didn't. All I was expecting was a chance if nothing else, but it didn't happen and now I'm here and I'm happy."

[ccB]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

Then where does the Pistons picking Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh rank?

Darko was the player I wanted all along. We had a SG in Rip Hamilton, a SF in Tayshaun Prince.. It seemed like only the Pistons and some of their fans knew he'd barely play his first year or two. Anyways, I think it worked out just fine for us.. We traded for Rasheed Wallace, and won the NBA Championship that year. Yeah, you won one woulda been more with one of the fore mentioned players.

[D-Unit]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

Then where does the Pistons picking Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh rank?

Darko was the player I wanted all along. We had a SG in Rip Hamilton, a SF in Tayshaun Prince.. It seemed like only the Pistons and some of their fans knew he'd barely play his first year or two. Anyways, I think it worked out just fine for us.. We traded for Rasheed Wallace, and won the NBA Championship that year. Yeah, you won one woulda been more with one of the fore mentioned players.
Not with Larry Brown. Brown would've turned Bosh into Travis Outlaw.

[ccB]

DARKO returns to Detroit TONIGHT.

I think this is his first game back.. It's already been a year since we traded him. That was one of the darkest days in my life.

Then where does the Pistons picking Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh rank?

Darko was the player I wanted all along. We had a SG in Rip Hamilton, a SF in Tayshaun Prince.. It seemed like only the Pistons and some of their fans knew he'd barely play his first year or two. Anyways, I think it worked out just fine for us.. We traded for Rasheed Wallace, and won the NBA Championship that year. Yeah, you won one woulda been more with one of the fore mentioned players.
Not with Larry Brown. Brown would've turned Bosh into Travis Outlaw.just think... The pistons draft Bosh, never play him than trade him to the Magic. A front court of Bosh and Howard :shock:

[D-Unit]

If Dwight and Darko were in college Darko they both would be Juniors. Both are still 21. Their NBA futures are so bright, it's blinding. Just wait till they fill out. It's gonna be scary when they're 25 years old.

[Dillen]

The reasons said earlier is exactly why I hate Larry Brown being involved in the 76ers at all. When Mo is gone Larry will probably be the coach. He'll have a couple of really talented young players. And they wont play, and he'll trade them for proven veterans like Kurt Thomas.

[Eaglez.Fan]

Jose Calderon is the best player in NBA history.

Calderon > Jordan

[M.O.T.H.]

Magic GM, Otis Smith told an Orlando radio station today... that they have zero intentions of trading tomorrow. Ugh.........he better be lying, oh please. This team doesnt have enough right now and there schedule is hell from this point on. Make a move! Currently sitting in 7th place, it seems as though the Knicks and Nets have the most realistic shot to catch them before season's end. It wouldnt take that much to stay a float, just make a move.

*Side Note*

Magic coach, Brian Hill has come out and said... Even when Tony Battie returns, Darko will remain the starting PF. I love this move... we have to know what we have in him. All I know right now is, Otis Smith contradicts himself all the time when it comes to Darko... his future is still very unclear in Orlando.

[M.O.T.H.]

The Magic are getting killed... 27-28 after tonight... once again... under .500.

[D-Unit]

Magic GM, Otis Smith told an Orlando radio station today... that they have zero intentions of trading tomorrow. Ugh.........he better be lying, oh please. This team doesnt have enough right now and there schedule is hell from this point on. Make a move! Currently sitting in 7th place, it seems as though the Knicks and Nets have the most realistic shot to catch them before season's end. It wouldnt take that much to stay a float, just make a move.

*Side Note*

Magic coach, Brian Hill has come out and said... Even when Tony Battie returns, Darko will remain the starting PF. I love this move... we have to know what we have in him. All I know right now is, Otis Smith contradicts himself all the time when it comes to Darko... his future is still very unclear in Orlando.
I don't want a move to be made. The names around the Carter trade is Darko, Ariza, Reddick or Hedo. Why give any of that up if we can get Carter this summer with our own cap?

Yeah, Darko will start here on out. Even Otis has said that.

[Eaglez.Fan]

85-84 DAMMMMMMMNNNNNN

[ccB]

85-84 DAMMMMMMMNNNNNNYeah this is a close game.

[M.O.T.H.]

Magic GM, Otis Smith told an Orlando radio station today... that they have zero intentions of trading tomorrow. Ugh.........he better be lying, oh please. This team doesnt have enough right now and there schedule is hell from this point on. Make a move! Currently sitting in 7th place, it seems as though the Knicks and Nets have the most realistic shot to catch them before season's end. It wouldnt take that much to stay a float, just make a move.

*Side Note*

Magic coach, Brian Hill has come out and said... Even when Tony Battie returns, Darko will remain the starting PF. I love this move... we have to know what we have in him. All I know right now is, Otis Smith contradicts himself all the time when it comes to Darko... his future is still very unclear in Orlando.
I don't want a move to be made. The names around the Carter trade is Darko, Ariza, Reddick or Hedo. Why give any of that up if we can get Carter this summer with our own cap?

Yeah, Darko will start here on out. Even Otis has said that.

I'm not even talking about Carter here. Apparently... well according to NBA TV... Otis Smith has no interest in VC and I dont mean for just this season... he doesnt want him on the team. They were talking about it today... they do not want to bring in another star to impede Dwight's growth. Doesnt seem smart at all, IMO. I really think the Dwight we've been seeing over the past two weeks is what Dwight is now. I think he's finally arrived offensivily.... bringing in another star is not going to make that disappear, if anything it would only help him. I'm really starting to question, Otis Smith's decision making over the past few months. It's sad to because, he has started out so well.

[Zim3031]

In typical Knicks fashion, the knickerbockers followup a big win against Orlando, with a 20 point loss against the mighty 76'ers, including a 30 point performance by Kyler Korver...

[ccB]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.

[KCJ58]

Kidd to the Lakers...

hopefully

[ccB]

Kidd to the Lakers...

hopefullyNot happening from what I hear. The nets wont do it without Bynum involved and the Lakers wont give up Bynum.

[ccB]

Sick put back by Varajeo

[D-Unit]

Magic GM, Otis Smith told an Orlando radio station today... that they have zero intentions of trading tomorrow. Ugh.........he better be lying, oh please. This team doesnt have enough right now and there schedule is hell from this point on. Make a move! Currently sitting in 7th place, it seems as though the Knicks and Nets have the most realistic shot to catch them before season's end. It wouldnt take that much to stay a float, just make a move.

*Side Note*

Magic coach, Brian Hill has come out and said... Even when Tony Battie returns, Darko will remain the starting PF. I love this move... we have to know what we have in him. All I know right now is, Otis Smith contradicts himself all the time when it comes to Darko... his future is still very unclear in Orlando.
I don't want a move to be made. The names around the Carter trade is Darko, Ariza, Reddick or Hedo. Why give any of that up if we can get Carter this summer with our own cap?

Yeah, Darko will start here on out. Even Otis has said that.

I'm not even talking about Carter here. Apparently... well according to NBA TV... Otis Smith has no interest in VC and I dont mean for just this season... he doesnt want him on the team. They were talking about it today... they do not want to bring in another star to impede Dwight's growth. Doesnt seem smart at all, IMO. I really think the Dwight we've been seeing over the past two weeks is what Dwight is now. I think he's finally arrived offensivily.... bringing in another star is not going to make that disappear, if anything it would only help him. I'm really starting to question, Otis Smith's decision making over the past few months. It's sad to because, he has started out so well.
Don't believe everything you read. A lot of it is posturing as well. They are simply communicating what they want relayed to their competition.

Otis is a good GM. He hasn't made a single mistake yet. Have faith.

Sick put back by Varajeo
he can dunk?

[ccB]

Magic GM, Otis Smith told an Orlando radio station today... that they have zero intentions of trading tomorrow. Ugh.........he better be lying, oh please. This team doesnt have enough right now and there schedule is hell from this point on. Make a move! Currently sitting in 7th place, it seems as though the Knicks and Nets have the most realistic shot to catch them before season's end. It wouldnt take that much to stay a float, just make a move.

*Side Note*

Magic coach, Brian Hill has come out and said... Even when Tony Battie returns, Darko will remain the starting PF. I love this move... we have to know what we have in him. All I know right now is, Otis Smith contradicts himself all the time when it comes to Darko... his future is still very unclear in Orlando.
I don't want a move to be made. The names around the Carter trade is Darko, Ariza, Reddick or Hedo. Why give any of that up if we can get Carter this summer with our own cap?

Yeah, Darko will start here on out. Even Otis has said that.

I'm not even talking about Carter here. Apparently... well according to NBA TV... Otis Smith has no interest in VC and I dont mean for just this season... he doesnt want him on the team. They were talking about it today... they do not want to bring in another star to impede Dwight's growth. Doesnt seem smart at all, IMO. I really think the Dwight we've been seeing over the past two weeks is what Dwight is now. I think he's finally arrived offensivily.... bringing in another star is not going to make that disappear, if anything it would only help him. I'm really starting to question, Otis Smith's decision making over the past few months. It's sad to because, he has started out so well.
Don't believe everything you read. A lot of it is posturing as well. They are simply communicating what they want relayed to their competition.

Otis is a good GM. He hasn't made a single mistake yet. Have faith.They need to make some sort of move if they want to make a serious run. Right now they are falling out of playoff contention and they need something to get them playing good again.

[ccB]

Sick put back by Varajeo
he can dunk?Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

[Eaglez.Fan]

DAMNIT :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[ccB]

Cavs win on the Varejao put back.....Youll see that one on Sportscenter tonight.

Sick put back by Varajeo
he can dunk?Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.
I wasnt aware. that 7'9 chinese guy cant dunk. i judt thought he was like that guy.

[D-Unit]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.
Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

[M.O.T.H.]

Well if the Magic dont make a move, we do have something to fall back on.

The much anticipated return of Trevor Ariza.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/brickman08865/ariza.jpg

That being said... i still would be more comfortable making a move... as long as it didnt involve... Nelson, Darko, or Ariza.

[M.O.T.H.]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.
Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,

[Brodeur]

Sick put back by Varajeo
he can dunk?Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

He's probably just used to Varejao flopping.

Sick put back by Varajeo
he can dunk?Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

He's probably just used to Varejao flopping.
I did watch him play as much as i would watch his hair.

[ccB]

Wow bucks make up a 6 pt deficit with 20 some seconds on the clock. Michael Redd made a lay up than Charlie Bell just stole an imbound pass and hit a 3 to tie the game.

[D-Unit]

Well if the Magic dont make a move, we do have something to fall back on.

The much anticipated return of Trevor Ariza.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/brickman08865/ariza.jpg

That being said... i still would be more comfortable making a move... as long as it didnt involve... Nelson, Darko, or Ariza.
He's our Bob Sanders. :lol:

[M.O.T.H.]

Well if the Magic dont make a move, we do have something to fall back on.

The much anticipated return of Trevor Ariza.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/brickman08865/ariza.jpg

That being said... i still would be more comfortable making a move... as long as it didnt involve... Nelson, Darko, or Ariza.
He's our Bob Sanders. :lol:

:D

Only a week and half away.

[M.O.T.H.]

Damn Ginobli had 40 tonight.

Surprise, surprise the only players scoring on the magic are Howard and Nelson. Howard has 22 and 13 and Jameer has 14 points. Perhaps this could show Otis how we really stack up against the East's elite. Start hitting the phones. :D

[D-Unit]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.
Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,
Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.

[ccB]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.
Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,
Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.Yeah I was about to say before Diener is nothing special. Hes an undersized SG trying to make it as a PG. Arroyo is better by alot. Arroyo is a true PG too.

[M.O.T.H.]

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.
Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,
Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.

Granted it was the pre season but, did you get see any of them? Diener was lighting everyone up. Throwing down 20+ everynight and 6+ assists. Teams have come calling but, Otis holds in him in high regard, too bad we dont play him. I do agree that Arroyo has been the better of the two (in comparison to Nelson) this season but, he isnt that great a decision maker either... i could do without both to be honest. I also agree Turk should be a sixth man and yeah he doesnt really fit well playing the two. I was liking our situation a lot more at the end of last season... what happened? ugh.

Comparing us to the Suns D... :D

[thetedginnshow]

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.

[M.O.T.H.]

More Magic...

I really dont think Brian Hill is the right man to coach this team.
Our offense is too damn methodical and he depends too much on the two point guard offense. I mean seriously... we have two of the biggest/strongest men in the league in Dwight and Darko... just get the big men the ball. Gotta play inside out, it will open up the threes and the mid range jumpers... we do have some exceptional shooters on this team, it's about time we use them to there strengths. We would be so much better than we are now.

[D-Unit]

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.
LOL... Why would the Magic do that? Rashard is going to opt out this summer. They can get him without giving up any players.

[thetedginnshow]

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.
LOL... Why would the Magic do that? Rashard is going to opt out this summer. They can get him without giving up any players.

Well, you'd have the security of getting him for sure opposed to assuming you could get him in the off-season, considering the Magic don't have first dibs on everyone. I was just bringing it up because I saw talk about Nelson and Redick being expendable and Rashard's name being brought up.

[D-Unit]

More Magic...

I really dont think Brian Hill is the right man to coach this team.
Our offense is too damn methodical and he depends too much on the two point guard offense. I mean seriously... we have two of the biggest/strongest men in the league in Dwight and Darko... just get the big men the ball. Gotta play inside out, it will open up the threes and the mid range jumpers... we do have some exceptional shooters on this team, it's about time we use them to there strengths. We would be so much better than we are now.
I hated the Hill signing from the start. Who rehires someone they fired in the past??? It's unprecedented!

[M.O.T.H.]

More Magic...

I really dont think Brian Hill is the right man to coach this team.
Our offense is too damn methodical and he depends too much on the two point guard offense. I mean seriously... we have two of the biggest/strongest men in the league in Dwight and Darko... just get the big men the ball. Gotta play inside out, it will open up the threes and the mid range jumpers... we do have some exceptional shooters on this team, it's about time we use them to there strengths. We would be so much better than we are now.
I hated the Hill signing from the start. Who rehires someone they fired in the past??? It's unprecedented!

Agreed.

[D-Unit]

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.
LOL... Why would the Magic do that? Rashard is going to opt out this summer. They can get him without giving up any players.

Well, you'd have the security of getting him for sure opposed to assuming you could get him in the off-season, considering the Magic don't have first dibs on everyone. I was just bringing it up because I saw talk about Nelson and Redick being expendable and Rashard's name being brought up.
Actually, you don't really get security because he can opt out even after they trade for him. Which is the most likely scenario for any team that would trade for him.

Yeah, the Magic don't get first dibs, but the cap allows them to pick and choose their targets.

The Magic are better off staying put unless a really good deal is offered.

[thetedginnshow]

Well, then you could sign him long-term, but I see what you're saying.

In any case, it's all just wishful thinking. I know the Sonics will only find ways to make themselves worse, most likely by doing nothing with Rashard and then letting him walk.

[WMD]

I kind of want to trade Nazr, because he isn't getting any minutes and he'd be the main point in a trade to get a Backup PG.. But I doubt Chris Webber will resign with us, and if we get rid of Nazr, who will our starting Center be for next year? Sheed does not like playing Center. Free Agency will be limited because Dumars will likely have to give Chauncey a monster contract since he's going to opt out.

So, that leaves us with the draft.. I don't like the idea of starting a Rookie Center unless his name is Greg Oden.. and what are the odds we'll trade to the #1 spot to pick him? We have two Round 1's this year, but not much else.

Oh, wait.. We have rights Cheick Samb! All 7'1" and 215 pounds of him..

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/cheickSamb.jpghttp://www.basquetcornella.com/images2/samb.gif

Smallest Big Guy ever.

[ccB]

I kind of want to trade Nazr, because he isn't getting any minutes and he'd be the main point in a trade to get a Backup PG.. But I doubt Chris Webber will resign with us, and if we get rid of Nazr, who will our starting Center be for next year? Sheed does not like playing Center. Free Agency will be limited because Dumars will likely have to give Chauncey a monster contract since he's going to opt out.

So, that leaves us with the draft.. I don't like the idea of starting a Rookie Center unless his name is Greg Oden.. and what are the odds we'll trade to the #1 spot to pick him? We have two Round 1's this year, but not much else.

Oh, wait.. We have rights Cheick Samb! All 7'1" and 215 pounds of him..

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/cheickSamb.jpghttp://www.basquetcornella.com/images2/samb.gif

Smallest Big Guy ever.His brother Mamadou is a legitimate prospect. Could even possibly be a lottery pick in next couple years.

[throwback54milkman]

goodbye D-Wade

[D-Unit]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.

[djp]

Wade injured his left shoulder in the fourth quarter and was in so much pain that he had to be taken off in a wheelchair.

WHAT? Aren't shoulder injuries on your ARM and not your legs?

[A-Dub4President]

Wade injured his left shoulder in the fourth quarter and was in so much pain that he had to be taken off in a wheelchair.

WHAT? Aren't shoulder injuries on your ARM and not your legs?

I was wondering the same thing. Personally, I would've gone with the stretcher. Way more dramatic.

[Windy]

it looked painful. he was crying.

[yodapoop]

I wore Wade's jersey today, does that mean I am a curse? Damn, we're ******. Congrats Pistons on the Eastern title.

[A-Dub4President]

I wore Wade's jersey today, does that mean I am a curse? Damn, we're ***********. Congrats Pistons on the Eastern title.

Don't worry, even if Wade was healthy the Pistons still would have won it.

[yodapoop]

I wore Wade's jersey today, does that mean I am a curse? Damn, we're ***********. Congrats Pistons on the Eastern title.

Don't worry, even if Wade was healthy the Pistons still would have won it.

Now it is a certianty though, no miracles are gonna happen.

[bearsfan_51]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.

[D-Unit]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.
Just wait till Ariza comes back. Magic will get at least the 8th seed.

[thetedginnshow]

...And the Blazers beat the Lakers. God I hate the Sonics for letting Nate go.

[bearsfan_51]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.
Just wait till Ariza comes back. Magic will get at least the 8th seed.
:lol:
I'm not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not.

I'm sure the Magic will make the playoffs, they aren't a bad team, they just don't seem to have the guns to make a run.

[sweetness34]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.

You're on crack 51 if you think the Heat are the class of the East. And now that D-Wade is out, they'll fall even more. Shaq may be a good player still, but he's not what he was last year. They are an aging team which relies on Wade to take over ball games.

IMO it's Detroit....Chicago, Washington, and Cleveland. Then the rest of the East.

[D-Unit]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.
Just wait till Ariza comes back. Magic will get at least the 8th seed.
:lol:
I'm not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not.

I'm sure the Magic will make the playoffs, they aren't a bad team, they just don't seem to have the guns to make a run.
It's a half joke. Of course I have confidence in the guy. I didn't want to lose him last summer because he's a young stud. While he was in the line up, the Magic were a different team on the court and that's not a joke.

My minimum hopes are for the Magic make the playoffs. Heck, we don't have first rounder this year, so I don't want to miss the playoffs. At the same time, I'm not looney enough to have legit championship dreams. The Magic are extremely young, I'm not worried about winning the championship as I am moreso about seeing progress.

[P-L]

Someone will upset Detroit in the Eastern Conference finals.

[bearsfan_51]

goodbye D-Wade
The Magic's season all of a sudden looks brighter in their division.
This move means very little for the Magic. It's still the Heat-Pistons-Cavs and then Wizards-Bulls in the East. I'm trying to buy into the Pacers as legit comp, but I just can't do it.

You're on crack 51 if you think the Heat are the class of the East. And now that D-Wade is out, they'll fall even more. Shaq may be a good player still, but he's not what he was last year. They are an aging team which relies on Wade to take over ball games.

IMO it's Detroit....Chicago, Washington, and Cleveland. Then the rest of the East.
They weren't necessarily in order. But you're on crack if you've got the Bulls ahead of the Cavs. The Cavs only get run down by ESPN because they're dissapointed that the Lebron hype train hasn't carried them as far as of yet as they thought it would. The Cavs have had the 2nd best record in the East most of the season and are coming together quite nicely down the stretch.

Untill I know the status of Wade he's still ahead of Chicago and Washington. Washington is too inconsistent for my liking and Chicago seems like a nice team, but not a good/great team.

[throwback54milkman]

Rumored trade:

Nets trade Vince Carter to the Knicks for Channing Frye, and Jamal Crawford

[Windy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2775131&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines

Fred Jones for Juan Dixon.

[D-Unit]

Rumored trade:

Nets trade Vince Carter to the Knicks for Channing Frye, and Jamal Crawford
Pretty good one. I'd like to see Carter in NY. Frye and Crawford are not championship caliber players. They are just guys good enough to stick around while leaving you always looking around for an upgrade. The Nets have always been stuck in neutral so I wouldn't be surprised if they did this... instead of allowing Carter to leave and going shopping for themselves in FA.

[ny10804]

Anyone else buying the Knicks making the playoffs? Now with the Wade-less Heat, fast-falling Magic, and soon to be decimated Nets?

As for the Carter trade, I'd be all for it. As long as we keep Lee and Curry, pretty much any trade would be all right with me. Frye looks lost on the court this season, he took a big step backward, imo.

[D-Unit]

Anyone else buying the Knicks making the playoffs? Now with the Wade-less Heat, fast-falling Magic, and soon to be decimated Nets?

As for the Carter trade, I'd be all for it. As long as we keep Lee and Curry, pretty much any trade would be all right with me. Frye looks lost on the court this season, he took a big step backward, imo.
With a 140M payroll, they better make the playoffs. Magic's payroll isn't even 60M. Shoot... the second highest is Dallas with a 92M payroll. 140M and talking about squeaking in the playoffs? Niiiiiice.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Oh my oh my Hawks got an amazing steal they traded a future 2nd rounder for Anthony Johnson. All these teams like the Lakers and the Heat going crazy for a guy like kid when all it took was a future 2nd for a solid starting caliber point guard like Johnson. Also awsome Juan is on the Rap now I can see him play more, he's a hometown legend. 4 mins to deadline looks like no big deals.

[D-Unit]

Oh my oh my Hawks got an amazing steal they traded a future 2nd rounder for Anthony Johnson. All these teams like the Lakers and the Heat going crazy for a guy like kid when all it took was a future 2nd for a solid starting caliber point guard like Johnson. Also awsome Juan is on the Rap now I can see him play more, he's a hometown legend. 4 mins to deadline looks like no big deals.
Yeah.... Booooooooooooooooring... Should be an interesting summer. Everyone will have their chips stacked up.

[ny10804]

Anyone else buying the Knicks making the playoffs? Now with the Wade-less Heat, fast-falling Magic, and soon to be decimated Nets?

As for the Carter trade, I'd be all for it. As long as we keep Lee and Curry, pretty much any trade would be all right with me. Frye looks lost on the court this season, he took a big step backward, imo.
With a 140M payroll, they better make the playoffs. Magic's payroll isn't even 60M. Shoot... the second highest is Dallas with a 92M payroll. 140M and talking about squeaking in the playoffs? Niiiiiice.

To be fair, 20,718,750 is being paid to Allan Houston, 16,901,500 to Jalen Rose, 9,750,000 to Maurice Taylor, 8,500,000 to Shandon Anderson, and 6,425,000 to Jerome Williams. So, it's essentially 76,969,609 for players actually on the team. And that number is not at all a representation of the team's talent level, I mean Malik Rose is our fifth highest paid player on the roster.

My point is, I'd be more than glad to make the playoffs as the 8 seed.

[Dillen]

Alan Henderson to the Jazz. 76ers can swap with Utah's 2nd rounder if they want to.


BLOCKBUSTEr!

[Finsfan79]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

[NYmoney]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

they could have, but they should have tried to deal wayne simien, posey, Dorrell Wright, and their first for Rashard Lewis

[Brodeur]

Excellent trade deadline with some killer deals. Dixon makes the Raptors a title contender, Henderson will be a huge cog in the system that is Utah, and Anthony Johnson will be Anthony Johnson.

[Finsfan79]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

they could have, but they should have tried to deal wayne simien, posey, Dorrell Wright, and their first for Rashard Lewis

I wouldnt give up that much :P

I wanted bibby or artest honestly oneof them we could of gotten for a package around posey, wright, 1st.

But they still have 10 home games in march, they have alot of bad games at the stretch like hawks and celtics. Shaq is still around too.

[NYmoney]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

they could have, but they should have tried to deal wayne simien, posey, Dorrell Wright, and their first for Rashard Lewis

I wouldnt give up that much :P

I wanted bibby or artest honestly oneof them we could of gotten for a package around posey, wright, 1st.

But they still have 10 home games in march, they have alot of bad games at the stretch like hawks and celtics. Shaq is still around too.

what value are you really giving up? a late first rounder, posey who is a FA, wright who is just a project, and wayne simien who has the weirdest stomache illness in the history of mankind. how does someone get sal manila for 2 years????

[ccB]

RIP Dennis Johnson

[Eaglez.Fan]

Juan Dixon...... Not bad I guess

Even though I liked Freddy Jones

[D-Unit]

Anyone read Chad Ford's chat on ESPN today? Lot of interesting things...

I should drive down to North Shore and find him... He lives only 30 min. away.

[NYmoney]

Anyone read Chad Ford's chat on ESPN today? Lot of interesting things...

I should drive down to North Shore and find him... He lives only 30 min. away.

best line was "congrats hawks fans. after passing up chris paul, derron williams, and marcus williams, and over-paying for Speedy Claxton, you finally have your PG. Anthony Johnson." lol. that was great.

[Finsfan79]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

they could have, but they should have tried to deal wayne simien, posey, Dorrell Wright, and their first for Rashard Lewis

I wouldnt give up that much :P

I wanted bibby or artest honestly oneof them we could of gotten for a package around posey, wright, 1st.

But they still have 10 home games in march, they have alot of bad games at the stretch like hawks and celtics. Shaq is still around too.

what value are you really giving up? a late first rounder, posey who is a FA, wright who is just a project, and wayne simien who has the weirdest stomache illness in the history of mankind. how does someone get sal manila for 2 years????

wright was pretty dang good when given playing time he was producing very well.
The 1st right now is actually just on the verge of the lottery lol
Simien has salminala (sp) poisoning it can kill people not sure more then that, and posey is nice cap freedom for a team and a solid player.

Honestly we would be giving up all of our youth if we do that we would have left haslem and wade pretty much for the future lol

[ccB]

I think the heat can still make it into the playoffs without wade even though that really does hurt. The east is so weak this did make the pistons the easy favorite to make the finals.

they could have, but they should have tried to deal wayne simien, posey, Dorrell Wright, and their first for Rashard Lewis

I wouldnt give up that much :P

I wanted bibby or artest honestly oneof them we could of gotten for a package around posey, wright, 1st.

But they still have 10 home games in march, they have alot of bad games at the stretch like hawks and celtics. Shaq is still around too.

what value are you really giving up? a late first rounder, posey who is a FA, wright who is just a project, and wayne simien who has the weirdest stomache illness in the history of mankind. how does someone get sal manila for 2 years????

wright was pretty dang good when given playing time he was producing very well.
The 1st right now is actually just on the verge of the lottery lol
Simien has salminala (sp) poisoning it can kill people not sure more then that, and posey is nice cap freedom for a team and a solid player.

Honestly we would be giving up all of our youth if we do that we would have left haslem and wade pretty much for the future lolYOu dont have to worry about it now. Trade deadline has passed. You didnt make a trade and your season has now gone down the drain,

[SeanTaylorRIP]

The Wiz should traded Jarvis for Juan.

[D-Unit]

The Wiz should traded Jarvis for Juan.
That would've been Juanderful! :D

[ccB]

Gilbert arenas with 19 points in the first quarter vs the kings.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

19 points at the end of the first, Artest has 15, and everyone was bashing on Anthony Johnson but don't forget in the playoffs just 7 months ago for the Pacers he scored 40 points one game and led his team by himself.

[A-Dub4President]

And here I was thinking about having Gooden and Pavlovic in a Suns uniform. Oh well, I don't Banks that much and hopefully he'll do something to justify his contract.

[sweetness34]

I don't think people realize that there was more to the Gasol deal than just the players.

His contract is GINORMOUS and with Big Ben's deal already on this team, it would be virtually impossible to pay the both of them and keep our core guys for next season. Gordon is up for an extension after this year I believe, and so is Deng. Nocioni's deal ends this season and Duhon is in his last year too I believe if I'm not mistaken.

We'd have to unload Big Ben to get Gasol. Otherwise we'd be in cap hell.

[sweetness34]

Talk about imploding. Wow. 16 point lead and we let Cleveland right back into the game with dumb turnovers and terrible decision making.

It's the one thing keeping us from winning the East. We cannot put 4 quarters of good basketblal together right now.

[sweetness34]

I'll take that win. It wasn't pretty, but hey, beating a division rival on the road is big.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Oh my one of the best finishes ever thank God the Wiz won, because that was some cheating on the clockwork.

[ccB]

Oh my one of the best finishes ever thank God the Wiz won, because that was some cheating on the clockwork.Yeah that was crazy.

[rocco31fb]

Juan Dixon...... Not bad I guess

Even though I liked Freddy Jones

Yes, I liked the way Fred Jones warmed that bench. He could also drink water like nobody in a Raptor uniform could. :roll:

[yodapoop]

I think D-Wade's injury is the reason no trade happened between the Nets and any1. The Heat are ******:they are old, I hate to say it, Shaq is washed up and can no longer dominate a game like he used to, its over.