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D-Unit
11-19-2007, 01:56 PM
BCS Title Game
Record 12-1 (Beats Arkansas/Beats Georgia in SEC Championship)
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Record 11-1 (Beats UCONN/Beats Pittsburgh)
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Orange Bowl
ACC Champion, Record: 11-2 (Beats Virginia/Beats Boston College in ACC Championship)
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Record: 11-2 (Beats Kansas/Loses to Oklahoma in Big 12 Championship)
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Fiesta Bowl
Big 12 Champion, Record: 11-2 (Missouri beats Kansas/OU beats Missouri in Big 12 Championship)
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Record: 10-2 (Loses to USC/Beats Arizona)
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Rose Bowl
PAC 10 Champion (Beats Arizona St.; Oregon loses at least 1 of 2/Beats UCLA)
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Big 10 Champion
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Sugar Bowl
Record: 10-3 (TEN Loses to KEN; Beats Georgia Tech/Loses to LSU in SEC Championship)
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Record: 12-0 (Beats Boise St./Beats Washington)
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Shane P. Hallam
11-19-2007, 02:56 PM
National Championship:

LSU vs. West Virginia

Rose Bowl:

Ohio State (Big Ten Winner)
vs.
USC (Pac 10 Winner)

Orange Bowl:

Virginia Tech (ACC Winner)
vs.
Kansas (#2 Choice)

Sugar Bowl:

Florida (SEC: #1 choice)
vs.
Hawaii (#4 Choice)

Fiesta Bowl:

Oklahoma (Big 12 Winner)
vs.
Arizona State (#3 Choice)

P-L
11-19-2007, 04:21 PM
BCS National Championship Game (BCS #1 vs BCS #2)
Louisiana State Tigers vs Missouri Tigers

Orange Bowl (ACC vs At Large)
Virginia Tech Hokies vs West Virginia Mountaineers

Fiesta Bowl (Big XII vs At Large)
Kansas Jayhawks vs Southern California Trojans

Rose Bowl (Big Ten vs Pac-10)
Ohio State Buckeyes vs Oregon Ducks

Sugar Bowl (SEC vs At Large)
Florida Gators vs Hawaii Warriors

Turtlepower
11-19-2007, 05:29 PM
BCS Title Game
Ohio State Buckeyes (no schedule remaining)
vs.
Arizona State Sun Devils (win USC, Arizona)

Orange Bowl
Virginia Cavaliers (Win VaTech, ACC Championship Game)
vs.
West Virginia Mountaineers (Win UConn, Lose Pittsburgh)

Sugar Bowl
LSU Tigers (Lose Arkansas, Win SEC Championship)
vs.
Missouri Tigers (Win Kansas, Lose Big 12 Championship)

Fiesta Bowl
Oklahoma Sooners (Win Oklahoma State, Big 12 Championship)
vs.
Georgia Bulldogs (Win Georgia Tech, Kentucky beats Tennessee, Lose SEC Championship)

Rose Bowl
Oregon Ducks (win UCLA, Oregon State)
vs.
Illinois Fighting Illini (no games left)

Notes:
Hawaii beats Boise State, but loses to Washington. They will not be ranked in the top-12 and there will be no conference champion ranked in front of them.

I see Illinois moving up with BC, VaTech, USC, and Hawaii all losing in front of them.

Shane P. Hallam
11-19-2007, 05:32 PM
Is that hopeful Turtle or ACTUAL predictions? Illinois making a BCS Game, wow, and OSU/ASU is nuts.

Turtlepower
11-19-2007, 05:35 PM
Is that hopeful Turtle or ACTUAL predictions? Illinois making a BCS Game, wow, and OSU/ASU is nuts.

I pray every night for that to happen. But really with this season, is anything not possible?

And I really think that if Hawaii loses, then Illinois has a good shot.

D-Unit
11-19-2007, 06:57 PM
National Championship:

LSU vs. West Virginia

Rose Bowl:

Ohio State (Big Ten Winner)
vs.
USC (Pac 10 Winner)

Orange Bowl:

Virginia Tech (ACC Winner)
vs.
Kansas (#2 Choice)

Sugar Bowl:

Florida (SEC: #1 choice)
vs.
Hawaii (#4 Choice)

Fiesta Bowl:

Oklahoma (Big 12 Winner)
vs.
Arizona State (#3 Choice)
I have similar choices. How do you foresee Florida getting it? By Georgia losing to LSU?

P-L
11-19-2007, 07:11 PM
I have similar choices. How do you foresee Florida getting it? By Georgia losing to LSU?
I know you asked JBond, but I figured I'd comment since I have Florida in a BCS game as well. If LSU ends up beating Georgia then Florida probably ends up jumping them in the standings. Georgia probably has a better shot at getting into a BCS Bowl if Tennessee goes the SEC Championship Game to be honest.

Shane P. Hallam
11-19-2007, 07:55 PM
I know you asked JBond, but I figured I'd comment since I have Florida in a BCS game as well. If LSU ends up beating Georgia then Florida probably ends up jumping them in the standings. Georgia probably has a better shot at getting into a BCS Bowl if Tennessee goes the SEC Championship Game to be honest.

Exactly. I think that happened a few years ago? Someone that didn't make it to a Championship had a better shot than someone who did and lost.

D-Unit
11-19-2007, 08:26 PM
I know you asked JBond, but I figured I'd comment since I have Florida in a BCS game as well. If LSU ends up beating Georgia then Florida probably ends up jumping them in the standings. Georgia probably has a better shot at getting into a BCS Bowl if Tennessee goes the SEC Championship Game to be honest.
Interesting... I see. I see.

keylime_5
11-19-2007, 08:28 PM
BCS NC: LSU vs Ohio State
Rose: USC vs Kansas
Orange: UConn vs Va Tech
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs Oregon
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

might very well be the way top teams (especially the #2 ranked ones) are dropping like flies

Oklahoma wins Big 12. UConn beats WVU. USC beats ASU. LSU beats UT in the SEC Ch. Kansas beats Mizzou.

keylime_5
11-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Is that hopeful Turtle or ACTUAL predictions? Illinois making a BCS Game, wow, and OSU/ASU is nuts.

That's what'll happen if WVU loses, USC loses to ASU, LSU loses to Ark or Ten/UGA, and Oklahoma wins the Big 12.

Shane P. Hallam
11-19-2007, 11:55 PM
That's what'll happen if WVU loses, USC loses to ASU, LSU loses to Ark or Ten/UGA, and Oklahoma wins the Big 12.

I understand, but that seems a bit farfetched, not impossible, but it would be tough.

D-Unit
11-20-2007, 12:34 AM
BCS NC: LSU vs Ohio State
Rose: USC vs Kansas
Orange: UConn vs Va Tech
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs Oregon
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

might very well be the way top teams (especially the #2 ranked ones) are dropping like flies

Oklahoma wins Big 12. UConn beats WVU. USC beats ASU. LSU beats UT in the SEC Ch. Kansas beats Mizzou.
As a Hawaii fan I'm hoping for UCONN to pull the upset, but not even I am THAT optimistic.

kwilk103
11-20-2007, 01:14 AM
wvu is 17 pt favorite

NYGibril28
11-20-2007, 08:15 AM
UConn is a better team than the media gives them credit for. Their defense is one of the best in the nation. They will make it a game.

kwilk103
11-20-2007, 03:26 PM
yea, i mean giving up 30 to cincy and only scoring 3 makes you good

also taking it down to the wire with temple

wvu wins easily

Shane P. Hallam
11-20-2007, 04:13 PM
It's all about turnovers.

Turtlepower
11-20-2007, 04:16 PM
yea, i mean giving up 30 to cincy and only scoring 3 makes you good

also taking it down to the wire with temple

wvu wins easily

I really think that Pitt is going to be a tougher game for WVU than UConn. Rivalry games always provide an upset more than a traditional conference game.

BrownsTown
11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
I really think that Pitt is going to be a tougher game for WVU than UConn. Rivalry games always provide an upset more than a traditional conference game.

I love how everyone underrates UConn. Hey, they're kinda winning the conference. That'll be a very tough game for WV.

My homer picks:

NC: WV (Big East) vs. OSU (Big 10)
Rose: Arizona State (Pac 10) vs. Illinois (At large)
Fiesta: Oklahoma (Big 12) vs. Boise St. (At large)
Sugar: Georgia (SEC) vs. Kansas (At large)
Orange: Boston College (ACC) vs. LSU (At large)

kwilk103
11-20-2007, 06:06 PM
I really think that Pitt is going to be a tougher game for WVU than UConn. Rivalry games always provide an upset more than a traditional conference game.

not gonna happen; home night game (11-0 under rodriguez) with a possible trip to the NC on the line

plus, wannstedt is pitt's coach

bustabinary
11-20-2007, 11:28 PM
WVU won't lose to Pitt, period. If they're going to lose, it'll be to UConn (which won't be a walk in the park). Pitt: WVU's blood enemies, at home, at night, with high stakes... WVU should blow them out.

DWilliams2IndyColts
11-20-2007, 11:31 PM
National Championship
LSU vs. West Virginia

Orange Bowl
Virginia Tech vs. Oklahoma

Rose Bowl
Ohio State vs. USC

Fiesta Bowl
Missouri vs. Arizona St.

Sugar Bowl
Georgia vs. Hawaii

Shane P. Hallam
11-20-2007, 11:34 PM
not gonna happen; home night game (11-0 under rodriguez) with a possible trip to the NC on the line

plus, wannstedt is pitt's coach

Wanny is underrated. Next year, Pitt wins the Big East!

BrownsTown
11-20-2007, 11:43 PM
WVU won't lose to Pitt, period. If they're going to lose, it'll be to UConn (which won't be a walk in the park). Pitt: WVU's blood enemies, at home, at night, with high stakes... WVU should blow them out.

You do realize that goes both ways right? I seriosuly doubt WV will be the only one motivated, Pitt perhaps moreso because they'd have the chance to ruin their hated rival's season.

NGSeiler
11-20-2007, 11:46 PM
plus, wannstedt is pitt's coach

Really, this is all that needs to be said. Case closed. :)

UConn worries me, though both of their losses came on the road and coming here to play is never easy. WVU should be able to run on them; biggest issue will be turnovers, both forcing them and not committing them. UConn has only turned the ball over 11 times this season, tied for 2nd nationally. WVU, for what it's worth, is tied for 25th nationally with 17 turnovers. Sounds like the guys who were dinged up against Cincy (Wicks, Dingle) will be good to go on Saturday.

Michigan
11-21-2007, 09:36 AM
Rose Bowl:
Michigan vs. California

Orange Bowl:
Florida State vs. Louisville

Fiesta Bowl:
Nebraska vs. Miami FL

Sugar Bowl:
Alabama vs. Penn State

National Championship:
Florida International vs. Notre Dame

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 02:07 PM
yea, i mean giving up 30 to cincy and only scoring 3 makes you good

also taking it down to the wire with temple

wvu wins easily

Dominating South Florida, the same South Florida team who beat West Virginia?

NGSeiler
11-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Dominating South Florida, the same South Florida team who beat West Virginia?

The same West Virginia that was missing Pat White for the entire second half of that game? ;)

bearsfan_51
11-21-2007, 03:25 PM
You do realize that goes both ways right? I seriosuly doubt WV will be the only one motivated, Pitt perhaps moreso because they'd have the chance to ruin their hated rival's season.
Give him a break, he's probably from West Virginia. Owning a computer and having all his teeth is reason enough for celebration.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-21-2007, 05:05 PM
Dominating South Florida, the same South Florida team who beat West Virginia?

..Dominating?

If not for 2 dropped passes in the end zone(I hate you Amarri), we win.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 05:38 PM
Dominating South Florida, the same South Florida team who beat West Virginia?

uconn got lucky vs ul, and vs temple

uconn also caught usf when they were coming off a loss, and their NC dreams over

no way wvu loses this game

wvu rolls, by 10 at least

Shane P. Hallam
11-21-2007, 05:48 PM
uconn got lucky vs ul, and vs temple

uconn also caught usf when they were coming off a loss, and their NC dreams over

no way wvu loses this game

wvu rolls, by 10 at least

Ha, good luck with that man. Saying no way they lose that game is just giving the big T to the big F.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 06:00 PM
i just dont see how we lose this game; better offense, better defense, more speed

home game, national championship berth on the line (possibly); mountaineer field will be loud; plus they have young lbers that will have trouble stopping white/slaton

BrownsTown
11-21-2007, 06:06 PM
i just dont see how we lose this game; better offense, better defense, more speed

home game, national championship berth on the line (possibly); mountaineer field will be loud; plus they have young lbers that will have trouble stopping white/slaton

If games were played like that it would be a very very different sport. Games are NOT played on paper. Anything can happen. Appalachian State can beat Michigan, Stanford can beat USC.

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 09:44 PM
i just dont see how we lose this game; better offense, better defense, more speed

home game, national championship berth on the line (possibly); mountaineer field will be loud; plus they have young lbers that will have trouble stopping white/slaton

What's at stake for UConn.

First Big East Championship.
First BCS Bowl.
National Recognition.


They have one young LB, in Scott Lutrus, who's been terrific this year. Stop acting like UConn has no chance, they are as good a defense as any in the country.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 10:28 PM
uconn's defense hasnt seen the speed wvu has; and you cant simulate in practice

they got lucky vs temple and ul; theres a chance they win, but it is a very slim chance

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 10:29 PM
uconn's defense hasnt seen the speed wvu has; and you cant simulate in practice

they got lucky vs temple and ul; theres a chance they win, but it is a very slim chance

UConn got lucky against Tempe and Louisville yes, but they still took it to Rutgers. Took it to South Florida early. Came down to the wire with Virginia. They are a good team.

BrownsTown
11-21-2007, 10:34 PM
The battle of the homers! Who will win? (FYI, my bet is on kwilk)

Turtlepower
11-21-2007, 10:35 PM
The battle of the homers! Who will win? (FYI, my bet is on kwilk)

I say Pat White stubs his toe and then UConn wins. =D

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 10:36 PM
The battle of the homers! Who will win? (FYI, my bet is on kwilk)

I think WVU will win too. I'm just sick of UConn getting no respect at all. WVU is a much better football team from a talent standpoint, but UConn has just as much on the line and has a legitimate shot of winning this game. Any given night, anything can happen.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 10:37 PM
we pounded rugters and had over 400 yds against usf while limiting them to 270; would have won had we not decided to hang onto the football

and i wouldnt call a 7 point win taking it to usf, especially when they had a chance to tie at the end

and that same uva team lost to wyoming

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 10:38 PM
I say Pat White stubs his toe and then UConn wins. =D

then we have a repeat of the rugters game last year

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 10:38 PM
we pounded rugters and had over 400 yds against usf while limiting them to 270; would have won had we not decided to hang onto the football

and i wouldnt call a 7 point win taking it to usf, especially when they had a chance to tie at the end

and that same uva team lost to wyoming

They dominated the first half. Slipped up in the 2nd, partly due to horrible weather conditions.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 10:42 PM
ok, uconn was +1 in the turnover margin and outgained by almost 100 yds

that must have been a pretty big slip up

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 10:44 PM
Just realize UConn is not as big of a walk-over as you, and the media makes it seem. They are a very talented and well-coached team.

Yeah, WVU could come out and just dominate, they have that type of talent that UConn doesn't. But it's just as likely that UConn comes in a plays hard and makes it a ball game.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 10:48 PM
hows uconn fanbase? are they a bunch of bandwagoners like usf's?

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 10:49 PM
hows uconn fanbase? are they a bunch of bandwagoners like usf's?

Sorta. UConn was always a 1-AA school so people would follow, but they would normally like other teams for college football, in 1-A. When UConn made it to D-1, some of those fans jumped on. Myself included.

What does that matter anyway?

BrownsTown
11-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Could kwilk be more overconfident?

Shane P. Hallam
11-21-2007, 11:03 PM
we pounded rugters and had over 400 yds against usf while limiting them to 270; would have won had we not decided to hang onto the football

and i wouldnt call a 7 point win taking it to usf, especially when they had a chance to tie at the end

and that same uva team lost to wyoming

That's happened to you in SO many games this year. That tells me it isn't hanging onto the football, turnovers are a problem. UConn's defense is physical, can cause fumbles, and if they can win that turnover battle, they will have a good chance against that WVU defense. It will be close if UConn wins, but they can pull it out.

NYGibril28
11-21-2007, 11:07 PM
That's happened to you in SO many games this year. That tells me it isn't hanging onto the football, turnovers are a problem. UConn's defense is physical, can cause fumbles, and if they can win that turnover battle, they will have a good chance against that WVU defense. It will be close if UConn wins, but they can pull it out.

See that kwik? An ADMIN. They know what they are talking about.

BrownsTown
11-21-2007, 11:08 PM
See that kwik? An ADMIN. They know what they are talking about.

but WV will be focused and perfect and the uconn defense will run away from pat white because hes god and theyll die if they tackle him so that means hell score a td on every play. i don't see how wv loses this game.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 11:19 PM
turnovers arent even that big of a problem

we're 21st in turnovers lost with 17

wvu is +11 in turnover margin
uconn is +15

both team can create turnovers

Shane P. Hallam
11-21-2007, 11:28 PM
And you're 93rd in Fumbles lost and 87th in number of fumbles. Guess what, you fumble the ball more than 75% of NCAA teams.

kwilk103
11-21-2007, 11:52 PM
and 8 of those came in 3 games

meaning in our other 7 games we've lost a total of 4; 3 of those came against usf which was one of the worst games i've seen wvu play in several years----thats 1/4 of the fumbles in 1 game, and another 25% in another---ul

thats 1/2 in 2 games---so when we do put it on the ground, it comes in bunches

and 2 of those were due to bad snaps, and another was on a reverse which we've done like once all year----snaps have been taken care of

Shane P. Hallam
11-21-2007, 11:57 PM
and 8 of those came in 3 games

meaning in our other 7 games we've lost a total of 4; 3 of those came against usf which was one of the worst games i've seen wvu play in several years----thats 1/4 of the fumbles in 1 game, and another 25% in another---ul

thats 1/2 in 2 games---so when we do put it on the ground, it comes in bunches

and 2 of those were due to bad snaps, and another was on a reverse which we've done like once all year----snaps have been taken care of

Best not hope it comes in bunches on Saturday.

kwilk103
11-22-2007, 12:02 AM
Best not hope it comes in bunches on Saturday.

i hope not, it seems when after we have a bad game (usf) we play 2 good games (miss st,rugters)

ul was a bad game, and we played alright vs cincy; so that means uconn would be a good game

BrownsTown
11-22-2007, 12:04 AM
i hope not, it seems when after we have a bad game (usf) we play 2 good games (miss st,rugters)

ul was a bad game, and we played alright vs cincy; so that means uconn would be a good game

That makes so little sense, I think some of my brain cells just died.

NYGibril28
11-22-2007, 12:21 AM
now im hoping for UConn to win more so because kwik is way too confident, not for the fact im a fan

D-Unit
11-22-2007, 09:45 PM
I knew ASU didn't have a chance against USC.

Shane P. Hallam
11-22-2007, 09:48 PM
now im hoping for UConn to win more so because kwik is way too confident, not for the fact im a fan

Oh yeah, that would be sick.

reigle9
11-22-2007, 11:50 PM
Kansas all the way. (for selfish reasons of course)

NGSeiler
11-23-2007, 12:49 AM
That's happened to you in SO many games this year. That tells me it isn't hanging onto the football, turnovers are a problem. UConn's defense is physical, can cause fumbles, and if they can win that turnover battle, they will have a good chance against that WVU defense. It will be close if UConn wins, but they can pull it out.

I tend to agree with this. As a WVU fan, the thing I worry about most on game day is turnovers. Pat White fumbling, Steve Slaton fumbling, or Mike Dent forgetting how to snap - it's happened and it has cost us. The top priority for the Mountaineers this weekend should be protecting the ball.

Shane P. Hallam
11-24-2007, 02:47 PM
UConn with 7 to start the game! Starting off strong!

LonghornsLegend
11-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Exactly. I think that happened a few years ago? Someone that didn't make it to a Championship had a better shot than someone who did and lost.

yea it could easily happen with the SEC this year, happens alot with Texas and Oklahoma, one of them makes it to the Big 12 champ game and loses and opens the door for the other


Id love to see Florida in a BCS game, they are a top 5 team in the country regardless of their record

D-Unit
11-24-2007, 03:27 PM
Hawaii vs. LSU in the Sugar Bowl??? OMG.

soybean
11-24-2007, 03:34 PM
i want to see hawaii vs. a big 12 team. I think they match up/can match up well with an oklahoma or missouri.

D-Unit
11-24-2007, 03:36 PM
i want to see hawaii vs. a big 12 team. I think they match up/can match up well with an oklahoma or missouri.
Sugar Bowl has the last pick of which teams to select. If Hawaii is eligible, they'll be going to the Sugar Bowl.

saintsfan912
11-24-2007, 03:47 PM
Sugar Bowl has the last pick of which teams to select. If Hawaii is eligible, they'll be going to the Sugar Bowl.

All depends on the BCS title game I thought? Doesn't it go with whatever bowl gets their team taken away, ie the Rose gets first pick for OSU and Fiesta gets 2nd for whoever they send. (Just an example). But yea, since the NC is in New Orleans they do get the last pick after all that mess.

D-Unit
11-24-2007, 09:20 PM
BCS Title Game
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Orange Bowl
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg


Fiesta Bowl
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OKLAHOMA-SOONERS.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/arizona-state-sundevils.jpg


Rose Bowl
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg


Sugar Bowl
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg

neko4
11-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Mine is the same except Tenn over UGA would make more sense right, and I think Mizou goes undefeated to finish the year and gets into the NC

Shane P. Hallam
11-24-2007, 09:36 PM
Not bad D. But, Georgia can't go to the Sugar Bowl. The winner of the SEC auto goes, so that is either LSU or Tennessee. I also am not sure if ASU falls out of the BCS after their loss, but looking at it more closely, so many teams right near them lost, man. They may stay in it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Illinois move in there though, if ASU falters.

I'll tell you though, I see very little doubt that Hawaii faces the SEC Champ, and that Georgia will fill-in for whichever conference winner goes to the NC (Fiesta or Rose Bowl)

National Championship:
West Virginia
vs.
Ohio State

Rose Bowl:
USC (Pac 10 Champ)
vs.
Georgia (#1 Choice)

Orange Bowl:
Virginia Tech (ACC Champ)
vs.
Missouri (#2 Choice)

Sugar Bowl:
LSU
vs.
Hawaii (#4 Choice)

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma
vs.
Arizona State/Illinois (#3 Choice)

D-Unit
11-24-2007, 09:47 PM
Not bad D. But, Georgia can't go to the Sugar Bowl. The winner of the SEC auto goes, so that is either LSU or Tennessee. I also am not sure if ASU falls out of the BCS after their loss, but looking at it more closely, so many teams right near them lost, man. They may stay in it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Illinois move in there though, if ASU falters.

I'll tell you though, I see very little doubt that Hawaii faces the SEC Champ, and that Georgia will fill-in for whichever conference winner goes to the NC (Fiesta or Rose Bowl)

National Championship:
West Virginia
vs.
Ohio State

Rose Bowl:
USC (Pac 10 Champ)
vs.
Georgia (#1 Choice)

Orange Bowl:
Virginia Tech (ACC Champ)
vs.
Missouri (#2 Choice)

Sugar Bowl:
LSU
vs.
Hawaii (#4 Choice)

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma
vs.
Arizona State/Illinois (#3 Choice)
Ah right. I forgot that about the Sugar Bowl being the SEC champ.

I'd love to see LSU match up with Hawaii. Of course, we'll lose but I want to see how far we are behind true top competition.

I think ASU goes ahead of Illinois because it's held in Arizona and they will be a huge draw.

keylime_5
11-24-2007, 09:50 PM
That would be crazy to see a 1 loss Big 12 team not get in the BCS, but since the bowls would certainly take Missouri with 2 losses over Kansas with 1, it could and probably will happen (assuming OU beats Mizzou, hopefully).

Shane P. Hallam
11-24-2007, 09:51 PM
Yup, then that seems about right. Call me crazy though, but I don't think it is a given that ASU beats Arizona though...

Shane P. Hallam
11-24-2007, 09:51 PM
That would be crazy to see a 1 loss Big 12 team not get in the BCS, but since the bowls would certainly take Missouri with 2 losses over Kansas with 1, it could and probably will happen (assuming OU beats Mizzou, hopefully).

It's all about rankings. If Missouri loses to Oklahoma, do they drop below Kansas? That is the question. Whoever is ranked higher goes to a BCS game.

fenikz
11-24-2007, 10:08 PM
It's all about rankings. If Missouri loses to Oklahoma, do they drop below Kansas? That is the question. Whoever is ranked higher goes to a BCS game.

I think it depends on the score of both games

if Mizzou beats Kansas by 20 and then loses a close game to Oklahoma I would put them ahead

keylime_5
11-24-2007, 10:33 PM
I don't think they really care who is ranked higher unless one is top 6 which is an automatic BCS bid. They can pick a lower ranked team over a higher ranked team for a BCS bowl as long as they aren't shafting a team with an automatic bid. If Kansas gets an automatic bid then Missouri is outside looking in, if not then probably Kansas will be left out despite a better record.

Shane P. Hallam
11-24-2007, 10:47 PM
I don't think they really care who is ranked higher unless one is top 6 which is an automatic BCS bid. They can pick a lower ranked team over a higher ranked team for a BCS bowl as long as they aren't shafting a team with an automatic bid. If Kansas gets an automatic bid then Missouri is outside looking in, if not then probably Kansas will be left out despite a better record.

I disagree. I have RARELY seen a team higher in the BCS standings miss out on a Bowl (unless they are restricted, i.e. Wisconsin last year, or a WAC team getting in). It IS all about the rankings.

georgiafan
11-25-2007, 12:03 AM
I'm hearing Orange bowl for UGA

bustabinary
11-25-2007, 01:35 AM
Game predictions: WVU beats Pitt, Missouri beats OU, BC beats VT, LSU beats UT, ASU beats Arizona, USC beats UCLA, Hawaii beats Washington

BCS National Championship: Missouri vs WVU
Orange Bowl: Boston College vs Georgia
Fiesta Bowl: Kansas vs Arizona State
Rose Bowl: USC vs OSU
Sugar Bowl: LSU vs Hawaii

Smokey Joe
11-25-2007, 01:36 AM
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP:
Ohio St. vs. West Virginia

ORANGE BOWL:
Boston College (ACC Champ) vs. Georgia

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma (Big 12 Champs) vs. Hawaii

Sugar Bowl:
LSU (SEC Champs) vs. Arizona St.

ROSE BOWL:
USC (PAC 10 Champ) vs. Missouri

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 02:10 AM
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP:
Ohio St. vs. West Virginia

ORANGE BOWL:
Boston College (ACC Champ) vs. Georgia

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma (Big 12 Champs) vs. Hawaii

Sugar Bowl:
LSU (SEC Champs) vs. Arizona St.

ROSE BOWL:
USC (PAC 10 Champ) vs. Missouri
Why does Fiesta choose Hawaii over ASU if ASU is Bowl eligible?

I think I'm with you with BC over Vtech though.

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP:
Ohio St. vs. West Virginia

ORANGE BOWL:
Boston College (ACC Champ) vs. Missouri

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma (Big 12 Champs) vs. Arizona St.

Sugar Bowl:
LSU (SEC Champs) vs. Hawaii

ROSE BOWL:
USC (PAC 10 Champ) vs. Georgia

bearsfan_51
11-25-2007, 03:38 AM
Mark May said that he thinks the Rose Bowl would choose Illinois if Ohio State makes the championship game. Crazy as it sounds, I agree. If you look at the way things fall, Illinois should make the spot necessarily to be among the eligible teams, particularly if VT beats Boston College. The Rose Bowl has basically stated that if they have the opportunity to maintain the Big Ten-Pac 10 matchup they will, as the Rose Bowl is by far the most tradition-laden of them all. Unfortunately I think that game would be a smoke out.

Another interesting thing I noted, is that if Les Miles and LSU loses the SEC championship game that will likely drop them to 4th in the SEC pecking order behind Florida. That would likely put them in the Alamo Bowl againt who? You guessed it. Michigan.

JagHombre22
11-25-2007, 04:52 AM
somebody explain to me how Georgia goes to the Orange Bowl if LSU gets the Sugar Bowl?

Shane P. Hallam
11-25-2007, 06:11 AM
somebody explain to me how Georgia goes to the Orange Bowl if LSU gets the Sugar Bowl?

Georgia, right now at #6, soon to be a Top 5 team will be an At Large bid into the BCS.

darnik44two
11-25-2007, 06:25 AM
National Championship

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg


Orange Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg
V.S.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg


Rose Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Feista Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/KANSAS-JAYHAWKS.jpg


Sugar Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/florida.jpg

Shane P. Hallam
11-25-2007, 06:32 AM
National Championship

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg


Orange Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg
V.S.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg


Rose Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Feista Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/KANSAS-JAYHAWKS.jpg


Sugar Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/florida.jpg

Can't happen. First off, two SEC teams can't face off. Second, only TWO teams from each conference can make BCS Bowls (Florida can't make it now). Third, SEC Champ goes to Sugar, ACC Champ goes to Orange. Fourth, Fiesta Bowl would have the #1 choice, and they WOULD NOT choose Hawaii or Kansas there, I'll tell you that.

darnik44two
11-25-2007, 07:16 AM
I've never been to up on the bowl selection process, thanks for clearing that up. Does this look more possible?

National Championship

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg


Orange Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/KANSAS-JAYHAWKS.jpg


Rose Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Feista Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg


Sugar Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/Boston-College-Eagles.jpg

Michigan
11-25-2007, 08:27 AM
Assumptions (simply picking the likely favorite):
LSU beats Tennessee
Virginia Tech beats Boston College
Oklahoma beats Missouri

NC
West Virginia 11-1 (BCS #1) vs.
Ohio State 11-1 (BCS #2)

Rose
USC 10-2 (P10 Champ) vs.
Georgia 10-2 (Pick #1 because of Rose Bowl's B10 Tie-in)

Sugar
LSU 11-2 (SEC Champ) vs.
Missouri 11-2 (Pick #2 because it is played on date closest to NC. Wacky, I know.)

Orange
Virginia Tech 11-2 (ACC Champ) vs.
Illinois 9-3 (Pick #3 because it is played on date second closest to NC)

Fiesta
Oklahoma 11-2 (B12 Champ) vs.
Hawaii 12-0 (Auto-Qualifier, "Pick" #4 because it is played right after Rose Bowl)

Smokey Joe
11-25-2007, 10:43 AM
Why does Fiesta choose Hawaii over ASU if ASU is Bowl eligible?

I think I'm with you with BC over Vtech though.

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP:
Ohio St. vs. West Virginia

ORANGE BOWL:
Boston College (ACC Champ) vs. Missouri

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma (Big 12 Champs) vs. Arizona St.

Sugar Bowl:
LSU (SEC Champs) vs. Hawaii

ROSE BOWL:
USC (PAC 10 Champ) vs. Georgia
I picked Hawaii because the Fiesta Bowl was originally made for the WAC, and I think it is stupid not to have the Wac champion in it, especially if they are undefeated.

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 11:56 AM
I picked Hawaii because the Fiesta Bowl was originally made for the WAC, and I think it is stupid not to have the Wac champion in it, especially if they are undefeated.
Fiesta wasn't made for the WAC. The WAC isn't a BCS conference. It's champion is not guaranteed a BCS Bowl.

The one thing the bowls are worried about selecting Hawaii is the small draw that could happen since getting there will be difficult for Hawaii fans. Fiesta would choose ASU, imo since ASU is the homestate team.

P-L
11-25-2007, 05:07 PM
I decided to do all the Bowls, so with one week to go, we'll see how accurate I am.

BCS National Championship Game (BCS #1 vs BCS #2)
Missouri Tigers vs West Virginia Mountaineers

Orange Bowl (ACC Champion vs At Large)
Virginia Tech Hokies vs Georgia Bulldogs

Fiesta Bowl (Big XII Champion vs At Large)
Kansas Jayhawks vs Arizona State Sun Devils

Sugar Bowl (SEC Champion vs At Large)
Louisiana State Tigers vs Hawaii Warriors

Rose Bowl (Big Ten Champion vs Pac-10 Champion)
Ohio State Buckeyes vs Southern California Trojans

GMAC Bowl (C-USA #2 vs MAC)
Tulsa Golden Hurricane vs Bowling Green Falcons

International Bowl (Big East vs MAC)
Rutgers Scarlet Knights vs Ball State Falcons

Outback Bowl (Big Ten #3 vs SEC)
Wisconsin Badgers vs Tennessee Volunteers

Cotton Bowl (Big XII #2/#3 vs SEC)
Oklahoma Sooners vs Auburn Tigers

Gator Bowl (ACC #3 vs Big East/Big XII)
Clemson Tigers vs Texas Longhorns

Capital One Bowl (Big Ten #2 vs SEC #2)
Illinois Fighting Illini vs Florida Gators

Armed Forces Bowl (Pac-10 #6 vs MWC)
Purdue Boilermakers vs Air Force Falcons

Sun Bowl (Pac-10 #3 vs Big XII/Big East)
California Golden Bears vs Cincinnati Bearcats

Humanitarian Bowl (WAC vs ACC #8)
Boise State Broncos vs Maryland Terrapins

Music City Bowl (SEC vs ACC #5/#6/#7)
Mississippi State Bulldogs vs Wake Forest Demon Deacons

Chick-fil-A Bowl (SEC #5 vs ACC #2)
Arkansas Razorbacks vs Boston College Eagles

Insight Bowl (Big Ten #6 vs Big XII #6)
Indiana Hoosiers vs Colorado Buffaloes

Independence Bowl (Big XII #7 vs SEC)
Oklahoma State Cowboys vs Alabama Crimson Tide

Meineke Car Care Bowl (ACC #5/#6/#7 vs Big East #3)
Florida State Seminoles vs South Florida Bulls

Liberty Bowl (C-USA #1 vs SEC #6)
Central Florida Knights vs Kentucky Wildcats

Alamo Bowl (Big Ten #4/#5 vs Big XII #5)
Michigan Wolverines vs Texas A&M Aggies

Texas Bowl (Big XII #8 vs C-USA #6)
South Carolina Gamecocks vs East Carolina Pirates

Champs Sports Bowl (ACC #4 vs Big Ten #4/#5)
Virginia Cavaliers vs Penn State Nittany Lions

Emerald Bowl (ACC #5/#6/#7 vs Pac-10 #4)
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets vs Oregon State Beavers

Holiday Bowl (Pac-10 #2 vs Big XII)
Oregon Ducks vs Texas Tech Red Raiders

Motor City Bowl (MAC vs Big Ten #7)
Central Michigan Chippewas vs Michigan State

Hawaii Bowl (WAC vs C-USA #5)
Nevada Wolf Pack vs Houston Cougars

PapaJohns.com Bowl (Big East vs C-USA #3)
Connecticut Huskies vs Southern Miss Golden Eagles

New Mexico Bowl (MWC vs WAC)
New Mexico Lobos vs Fresno State Bulldogs

Las Vegas Bowl (Pac-10 #5 vs MWC #1)
UCLA Bruins vs Brigham Young Cougars

New Orleans Bowl (Sun Belt #1 vs C-USA #4)
Troy Trojans vs Memphis Tigers

Poinsettia Bowl (MWC vs At Large)
Utah Utes vs Navy Midshipmen

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 05:09 PM
Wow. PL. You are THE MAN!

darnik44two
11-25-2007, 05:38 PM
I did most of them...

National Championship

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg


Orange Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/KANSAS-JAYHAWKS.jpg


Rose Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Feista Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg


Sugar Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/Boston-College-Eagles.jpg


Capital One Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/florida.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/michigan-wolverines.jpg


Gator Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/south-florida.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OKLAHOMA-SOONERS.jpg


Cotton Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/texas-longhorns.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/treennessee.jpg


Outback Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/wisconsin.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/AUBURN-TIGERS.jpg


International Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/CONNECTICUT-HUSKIES.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/central.jpg


Insight Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/ok-state-cowboys.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/penn-state.jpg


Chick-fil-A

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/virginia.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/arkansas.jpg


Sun Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/Cincinnati-BEArcats.jpg
v.s.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/arizona-state-sundevils.jpg


Music City Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/kentucky-wildcats.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/clemson.jpg


Humanitarian Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/boise-state.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/wake-forest.jpg


Armed Forces Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/oregon-ducks-2.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/byu.jpg


Independence Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia-tech.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/texas-tech.jpg


Alamo Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/am.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/purdue.jpg


Liberty Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/central-florida.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/miss-st.jpg


Meinke Car Care Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/florida-state.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/rutgers.jpg


Emerald Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/oregon-state.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/maryland.jpg


Texas Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/tulsa.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/ok-state-cowboys.jpg


Champs Sports Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/houston.jpg
v.s.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/michigan-st.jpg


Other Bowl Games:

Poinsettia Dec. 20/9 p.m. San Diego Mountain West vs. Navy/At-Large ESPN
New Orleans Dec. 21/8 p.m. New Orleans Sun Belt Champ vs. C-USA ESPN2
PapaJohn's.com Dec. 22/11 a.m. Birmingham, Ala. Big East vs. C-USA ESPN2
New Mexico Dec. 22/4:30 p.m. Albuquerque, N.M. Mountain West vs. WAC ESPN
Las Vegas Dec. 22/8 p.m. Las Vegas Mountain West vs. Pac-10 ESPN
Hawaii Dec. 23/8 p.m. Honolulu C-USA vs. WAC ESPN
Motor City Dec. 26/7:30 p.m. Detroit Big Ten vs. MAC ESPN
Holiday Dec. 27/8 p.m. San Diego Big 12 vs. Pac-10 ESPN

wiscbadgerfootball
11-25-2007, 05:40 PM
How would Illinois drop below Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn State?

Shane P. Hallam
11-25-2007, 06:22 PM
Yeah, Illinois is going to Capital One, no way UM goes now I believe.

kwilk103
11-25-2007, 06:38 PM
i thought i heard somewhere its who the bowl wants, not the standings

like big 10 #3 means the bowl has the 3rd pick from the big 10, and not it has to take the team 3rd in the standings

i could be wrong though

P-L
11-25-2007, 06:42 PM
i thought i heard somewhere its who the bowl wants, not the standings

like big 10 #3 means the bowl has the 3rd pick from the big 10, and not it has to take the team 3rd in the standings

i could be wrong though
That's exactly right. But the Capital One Bowl won't pass up both Illinois and Wisconsin, so it doesn't matter. Technically, the Capital One Bowl could pick Michigan State if they wanted.

Shane P. Hallam
11-25-2007, 06:47 PM
They actually already said UM won't be in the Capital One Bowl.

Michigan
11-25-2007, 07:44 PM
The Big 10 pecking order is probably like this:
1. Ohio State
2. Illinois
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Penn State
6. Indiana
7a. Purdue
7b. Michigan State
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 08:34 PM
I did most of them...

National Championship

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/missouri-tigers.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/west-virginia-mountaineers.jpg


Orange Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/virginia-tech.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/KANSAS-JAYHAWKS.jpg


Rose Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/usc.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/OHIO-STATE.jpg


Feista Bowl

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/darnik522/georgia.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/hawaii-bar.jpg


Sugar Bowl

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/lsu.jpg
V.S.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/darnik44/Boston-College-Eagles.jpg


VT plays BC in the ACC championship. I don't think both of them get BCS bids regardless of the outcome. I still think Arizona St. beats Arizona.... but if not, I think Illinois should jump in and not BC. Also have to remember that Fiest picks before Sugar. Would they really take Hawaii over someone else?

DChess
11-25-2007, 08:49 PM
hawaii is going to get ruckused by anybody they play.


that will probably be my last post on here, after an annyomous admin bans me.

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
hawaii is going to get ruckused by anybody they play.


that will probably be my last post on here, after an annyomous admin bans me.
You're probably right... but our goal was to make the BCS Bowl. Winning it is not a realistic expectation... just a nice shocking surprise. Just the chance to play in one is damn exciting and damn good for the program. But yeah, I would probably agree that the point spread will be high between them and whoever they play. It's interesting to see how far apart the top competition really is. That's pretty much all I'm interested in seeing. How far behind are we really?

DChess
11-25-2007, 08:59 PM
You're probably right... but our goal was to make the BCS Bowl. Winning it is not a realistic expectation... just a nice shocking surprise. Just the chance to play in one is damn exciting and damn good for the program. But yeah, I would probably agree that the point spread will be high between them and whoever they play. It's interesting to see how far apart the top competition really is. That's pretty much all I'm interested in seeing. How far behind are we really?

but in all honsetly if the offense doesnt turn the ball over, they can make it close/respectable

ill say the spread will be around +21

D-Unit
11-25-2007, 09:36 PM
but in all honsetly if the offense doesnt turn the ball over, they can make it close/respectable

ill say the spread will be around +21
Well if it's LSU, which has pretty much been the number 1 ranked team all year and would've been playing in the National Championship game if not for that 4 OT loss to Arkansas, the spread should be more than that. The homer in me says IF and I really mean IF, we beat Washington, we'll make a decent game out of the BCS Bowl game.

Iamcanadian
11-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Well if it's LSU, which has pretty much been the number 1 ranked team all year and would've been playing in the National Championship game if not for that 4 OT loss to Arkansas, the spread should be more than that. The homer in me says IF and I really mean IF, we beat Washington, we'll make a decent game out of the BCS Bowl game.

Remember Boise St embarrassed Oklahoma last year so beating an unemotional LSU who think the game will be a cakewalk isn't out of the question.

Smokey Joe
11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Fiesta wasn't made for the WAC. The WAC isn't a BCS conference. It's champion is not guaranteed a BCS Bowl.

The one thing the bowls are worried about selecting Hawaii is the small draw that could happen since getting there will be difficult for Hawaii fans. Fiesta would choose ASU, imo since ASU is the homestate team.

The Fiesta Bowl was born from the Western Athletic Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Athletic_Conference)'s frustrated attempts to obtain bowl invitations for its champions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl

jballa838
11-25-2007, 10:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl
in 1971 it was made for the WAC...
thats 30+ years ago

Shane P. Hallam
11-25-2007, 10:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl

Is Wikipedia really a reliable source? I've only seen it on there and any site that took it straight off of there.

D-Unit
11-26-2007, 12:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl
I gotta give you props for doing your historical research, but yeah.. like the other guys have said... that's a long time ago and the bottom line is that the Bowls want to make money. Hawaii will be the last team selected and the Sugar Bowl will be the Bowl with the last pick.

NYGibril28
11-26-2007, 06:52 AM
BCS National Championship
Ohio State vs. Virginia Tech

Oklahoma beats Missouri
Tennessee beats LSU
Pittsburgh beats West Virginia
Virginia Tech dominates BC to jump Georgia and Kansas.

So, it's possible, but unlikely...

Michigan
11-26-2007, 02:22 PM
BCS National Championship
Ohio State vs. Virginia Tech

Oklahoma beats Missouri
Tennessee beats LSU
Pittsburgh beats West Virginia
Virginia Tech dominates BC to jump Georgia and Kansas.

So, it's possible, but unlikely...

lol. The score of that game would probably be 3-2. Almost impossible scenario though.

By my estimates:
OU > Missouri 55%
Tenn > LSU 40%
Pitt > WVU 15%
VT > BC by 20+ 10%

.55 x .40 x .15 x .10 = 0.33% chance

OregonDucks
11-27-2007, 12:04 AM
Hawaii is overrated. Look at all the teams they barely beat and their weak schedule, they will get tattoed in any bcs game.

Turtlepower
11-27-2007, 12:15 AM
Hawaii is overrated. Look at all the teams they barely beat and their weak schedule, they will get tattoed in any bcs game.

To Hawaii's credit, everyone said the same thing about Boise State last year...

KCJ58
11-27-2007, 12:41 AM
if Missouri loses to Oklahoma doesn't Kansas get the at-large bid instead?

Turtlepower
11-27-2007, 12:43 AM
if Missouri loses to Oklahoma doesn't Kansas get the at-large bid instead?

It all depends on who the bowl committee wants to select. For example, last year they chose LSU over Arkansas even though LSU didn't win its division and this year Georgia might be in the NC game without even winning its own division. IMO, ASU should be in the NC game. =D

KCJ58
11-27-2007, 12:44 AM
It all depends on who the bowl committee wants to select. For example, last year they chose LSU over Arkansas even though LSU didn't win its division and this year Georgia might be in the NC game without even winning its own division. IMO, ASU should be in the NC game. =D

if ASU beats Arizona there going to the Fiesta Bowl

Turtlepower
11-27-2007, 12:50 AM
if ASU beats Arizona there going to the Fiesta Bowl

I'll be there to see them beat the most overrated team in the west. Every year it pisses me off to see the Wildcats getting so much love and none for the Sun Devils. What happens every year, the Wildcats suck and the Sun Devils do relatively well. =(

KCJ58
11-27-2007, 12:55 AM
I'll be there to see them beat the most overrated team in the west. Every year it pisses me off to see the Wildcats getting so much love and none for the Sun Devils. What happens every year, the Wildcats suck and the Sun Devils do relatively well. =(

Amen to that **** the Wildcats!

SubNoize
11-27-2007, 10:21 AM
I'll be there to see them beat the most overrated team in the west. Every year it pisses me off to see the Wildcats getting so much love and none for the Sun Devils. What happens every year, the Wildcats suck and the Sun Devils do relatively well. =(

where do you live? In the phoenix metro area all the media does is ride ASU's jock all season. It's " Dennis Erickson is amazing" or " What a turn around". Then you hear how bad stoops and company have done for the last 4 years. Thank god it all stopped when USC came in and stomped the Devils dream of a Rose Bowl. ASU will go to the Fiesta Bowl and lose to Kansas who will earn the bid over Oklahoma.

Turtlepower
11-27-2007, 10:25 AM
where do you live? In the phoenix metro area all the media does is ride ASU's jock all season. It's " Dennis Erickson is amazing" or " What a turn around". Then you hear how bad stoops and company have done for the last 4 years. Thank god it all stopped when USC came in and stomped the Devils dream of a Rose Bowl. ASU will go to the Fiesta Bowl and lose to Kansas who will earn the bid over Oklahoma.

Well obviously the hometown team gets repspect in Phoenix, but nationally we get very little respect. I will fault the Athletic Department for scheduling night games in Phoenix, but Stoops is a horrible coach and should be fired. He has one marquis win in each year that let's him keep his job. Stanford was at a more recent bowl game than UofA.

SubNoize
11-27-2007, 10:27 AM
My predictions are

BCS National Title Game
Mizzou vs West Virginia

Orange Bowl
Georgia vs. VT

Rose Bowl
USC vs. Ohio State

Sugar Bowl
LSU vs. Hawai'i

Fiesta Bowl
ASU vs Kansas

DChess
11-27-2007, 01:41 PM
Hawaii is overrated. Look at all the teams they barely beat and their weak schedule, they will get tattoed in any bcs game.

interesting point, only if that wasnt obvious already and 1,000,000 people havent already said that. but good insight

bearsfan_51
11-27-2007, 01:43 PM
I'll be there to see them beat the most overrated team in the west. Every year it pisses me off to see the Wildcats getting so much love and none for the Sun Devils. What happens every year, the Wildcats suck and the Sun Devils do relatively well. =(
Trust me, nobody gives a **** about either team.

SubNoize
11-27-2007, 01:47 PM
Trust me, nobody gives a **** about either team.

C'mon now, people in AZ actually care, not including myself, but somebody does. I mean even the Lumberjokes up in Flagstaff have a small following. ASU does have some rabid fans though, I think they like mauled and stabbed an Oregon fan a few years back for yelling ASU sucks, it was idiocy at it's finest.

Turtlepower
11-27-2007, 04:12 PM
Trust me, nobody gives a **** about either team.

I'm sorry that ASU hasn't had a historically good team. I guess you can be happy to beat Michigan and then in your bowl game. =D

Michigan
11-27-2007, 05:07 PM
To Hawaii's credit, everyone said the same thing about Boise State last year...

Boise State blew out Oregon State (ranked #24 in final poll), blew out Utah, and beat Hawaii...

DChess
11-27-2007, 05:17 PM
I'm sorry that ASU hasn't had a historically good team. I guess you can be happy to beat Michigan and then in your bowl game. =D

no they didnt. people knew boise could play a little and had a pretty good roster. hawaii barley beats teams like la tech, doesnt play defense, and rely on the pass. they are complelty different from boise st's team last year

nfrillman
11-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Boise State blew out Oregon State (ranked #24 in final poll), blew out Utah, and beat Hawaii...

Definitely agree. This Hawaii team is not Boise State last year. I genuinely think that Boise State may have been the best team last year. You would have to be out of your mind to even consider thinking that about Hawaii.

D-Unit
11-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Definitely agree. This Hawaii team is not Boise State last year. I genuinely think that Boise State may have been the best team last year. You would have to be out of your mind to even consider thinking that about Hawaii.
I think you're out of your mind to even consider that Boise was the best team last year. So I don't know if your statement holds any water. Last year, Hawaii almost beat Boise IN Boise. They lost by a TD despite a lot of mistakes. Are you saying Hawaii was a Top 10 team last year?

GB12
11-28-2007, 03:15 PM
I didn't know where to put this, but Wisconsin has accepted an invite to the Outback Bowl.

sweetness34
11-28-2007, 03:17 PM
Illinois will go to the Rose Bowl over scUM. Book it. Oregon State beating Oregon would help things a ton for us. We're either Rose or Capitol Bowl bound IMO with a very, very outside chance at the Fiesta.

kwilk103
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
Illinois will go to the Rose Bowl over scUM. Book it. Oregon State beating Oregon would help things a ton for us. We're either Rose or Capitol Bowl bound IMO with a very, very outside chance at the Fiesta.

michigan cant go to a bcs bowl; not in top 12

illinois has an outside shot if things go there way this weekend

Turtlepower
12-01-2007, 11:53 PM
I really think that Pitt is going to be a tougher game for WVU than UConn. Rivalry games always provide an upset more than a traditional conference game.

not gonna happen; home night game (11-0 under rodriguez) with a possible trip to the NC on the line

plus, wannstedt is pitt's coach

WVU won't lose to Pitt, period. If they're going to lose, it'll be to UConn (which won't be a walk in the park). Pitt: WVU's blood enemies, at home, at night, with high stakes... WVU should blow them out.

Oh man I love actually making a valid point every once in awhile.

keylime_5
12-02-2007, 10:09 AM
It'll be interesting to see an Illinois-USC rose bowl. The Illini are on fire and have a defense playing out of its mind. It would be interesting to see what they'd do against USC - who really can't pass the ball well at all.

SubNoize
12-02-2007, 10:38 AM
It'll be interesting to see an Illinois-USC rose bowl. The Illini are on fire and have a defense playing out of its mind. It would be interesting to see what they'd do against USC - who really can't pass the ball well at all.

that would seriously be soo lopsided and not worth watching, USC would murder Illinois, with ease. I'm 100% confident that there isn't a Big 10 team that can beat USC.

Smokey Joe
12-02-2007, 10:39 AM
my final predictions...

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP: Ohio St. vs. Louisiana St.
ROSE BOWL: Southern Cal. vs. Georgia
FIESTA BOWL: Oklahoma vs. Hawaii
ORANGE BOWL: Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia
SUGAR BOWL: Missouri/Kansas vs. Arizona St.

OSU vs. LSU is also a good NC, IMO.

While I like the see tradition kept in the bowl games, I like good games and matchups much better. USC vs. Georgia, while it might not be a traditional matchup, would be a great game to watch.

Oklahoma vs. Hawaii, yeah, but you never know (Boise st. last year for instance).

Virginia Tech vs. WVU is a good matchup and you have the boundary stuff.

Missouri/Kansas vs. ASU, meh.