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Auron
11-27-2007, 10:08 AM
This will be the Buccaneers final obstacle toward trying to Win the NFC South. If they can travel on the road and beat a Saints team on their last straw trying desperately to hang in.. and go up 3 games I think that clearly all but gives them the Title.

I think a lot of things need to go right for us to win this... Crowd must play a major factor seeing as we haven't played all that well at Home this season. I think Payton must carry over the run distribution from last week, we have to stay balanced in the running game to not let their Defense key in on what we're doing.

I still don't really have a very good feeling, we haven't played against this style of Defense all year. If Bush/Stecker/Pierre can be somewhat productive in this game, and we get protection we have a shot.

BucSappy
11-27-2007, 10:13 AM
It's like Gruden said, it is really tough to beat a team twice in the division in one season.

I think New Orleans will end up being the favorite, spread wise, in this game by 2.5 to 4 points.

If Tampa wins it does pretty much lock up the division, Carolina's/New Orlean's final hope is Tampa loses out, which I don't think will happen.

If New Orleans wins, and as a die hard Tampa fan I think this will be a really tough game for our defense (even though it wasn't the first time around) and our offense has been struggling of late.

Tampa Bay: 24
New Orleans: 21

Chucky
11-27-2007, 10:15 AM
I think our defence actually matches up very well with New Orleans offence, especially without Duece. WE should be able to neutralize bush. and hopefully we will get some solid pressure, and allow our secondary and LBs make plays and force turnovers just like lastweek

Auron
11-27-2007, 10:21 AM
If New Orleans wins, and as a die hard Tampa fan I think this will be a really tough game for our defense (even though it wasn't the first time around) and our offense has been struggling of late.

I think we'll be able to present more of a challenge Offensively, this is a completely different Offense than what it was in Week 2. Early in the year it was just disgusting, Brees and the receivers were not on the same page, Line could not block at all, no threat from the running game. Although they've cleaned it up they are still prone to reverting back to being out of sync from time to time (Like in the Rams game)

This game IMO comes down to Turnovers, if Tampa stays opportunistic and forces us into mistakes early... they'll build a lead, we'll become 1 dimensional and the pressure mounts. Pretty much how all our losses have gone. If we protect the football, and can maintain some sort of balance on the ground it will be close.

I'm just hoping for a good game, seeing as this one was moved to the Afternoon time slot to generate a larger viewing audience.

BucSappy
11-27-2007, 10:28 AM
I think we'll be able to present more of a challenge Offensively, this is a completely different Offense than what it was in Week 2. Early in the year it was just disgusting, Brees and the receivers were not on the same page, Line could not block at all, no threat from the running game. Although they've cleaned it up they are still prone to reverting back to being out of sync from time to time (Like in the Rams game)

This game IMO comes down to Turnovers, if Tampa stays opportunistic and forces us into mistakes early... they'll build a lead, we'll become 1 dimensional and the pressure mounts. Pretty much how all our losses have gone. If we protect the football, and can maintain some sort of balance on the ground it will be close.

I'm just hoping for a good game, seeing as this one was moved to the Afternoon time slot to generate a larger viewing audience.

I agree with a lot of what you just said.

Maybe Tampa's offense isn't as bad as I think it is. The Redskins have a damn good defense, and I just don't think the Saints present as much of a challenge offensively as did the Redskins.

Gruden said Garcia is "day to day." I'm really concerned about his health, our backups suck.

JAlexander
11-27-2007, 11:24 AM
The division is basically already locked up. Saints have to make up 3 games in 5 weeks.

Watchman
11-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Garcia is the key for the Bucs. If he can play and isn't really limited in what he does because of the back injury then it should be a good game. If Garcia doesn't play the Bucs D will put up a good fight, but fold in the end because they are on the field too long.

The Bucs O without Garcia is pathetic, and won't be able to accomplish much, or give the D any type of rest.

Great to have a game this late in the season mean something after the abortion that was the 06 season.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-27-2007, 06:20 PM
Deuce Mccalister is a HUGE loss against the Bucs because he's ripped us often and easily, and NO's D is still questionable, and I have no doubt Garcia will play.
28-14.

Canadian_kid16
11-27-2007, 07:28 PM
Garcia is the key for the Bucs. If he can play and isn't really limited in what he does because of the back injury then it should be a good game. If Garcia doesn't play the Bucs D will put up a good fight, but fold in the end because they are on the field too long.

The Bucs O without Garcia is pathetic, and won't be able to accomplish much, or give the D any type of rest.

Great to have a game this late in the season mean something after the abortion that was the 06 season.

exactly...I say that if Garcia can play and play 75% or better, we will win fairly easily...but if he can't play it will be really close

JAlexander
11-28-2007, 04:12 PM
It doesn't look like Garcia will play and Luke McCown will start. Obviously it hurts the Bucs but McCown has a good arm and good mobility, he's just never really gotten a chance. We'll see what happens.

Watchman
11-28-2007, 07:05 PM
Still holding out hope Garcia starts.

etk
11-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Deuce Mccalister is a HUGE loss against the Bucs because he's ripped us often and easily, and NO's D is still questionable, and I have no doubt Garcia will play.
28-14.

Deuce is the reason I always fear the Saints. I think we will outplay them like we have done to most of our opponents, but we won't take advantage of opportunities like we have done so far this year. I predict a 3 point victory for the Saints, push.

JAlexander
11-30-2007, 01:17 PM
Garcia practicing today....

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/garcia-returns-to-practice1/

Flyboy
11-30-2007, 01:59 PM
I think we'll be able to present more of a challenge Offensively, this is a completely different Offense than what it was in Week 2. Early in the year it was just disgusting, Brees and the receivers were not on the same page, Line could not block at all, no threat from the running game. Although they've cleaned it up they are still prone to reverting back to being out of sync from time to time (Like in the Rams game)

This game IMO comes down to Turnovers, if Tampa stays opportunistic and forces us into mistakes early... they'll build a lead, we'll become 1 dimensional and the pressure mounts. Pretty much how all our losses have gone. If we protect the football, and can maintain some sort of balance on the ground it will be close.

I'm just hoping for a good game, seeing as this one was moved to the Afternoon time slot to generate a larger viewing audience.

Ding, ding, ding. It should be a good game, though. I just hope we can pull it out.

diabsoule
11-30-2007, 05:00 PM
The Saints have a lot to play for in this game. Not only will it cut the division lead if we win but it also keeps our playoff hopes alive. We really can't afford to lose this game.

Dome Patrol
12-02-2007, 01:47 PM
I think last week Payton got the right idea and started utilizing the run more. Being at home should give us an advantage as long as the fans bring it. Grant came back from injury last week and it showed I feel. Also, we get Young back this week which should give us more depth and strength on the D line. I would like to have seen more of Pierre Thomas this week but not sure if he's gonan suit up (kidney). Our Run D has been decent but I have to wonder if thats only because other teams knew they could pass on us. David still scares me.. as does Joey G. Should be a good game and I think much of the outcome will be determined on whether or not Garcia plays. NO needs this game.. its do or die basically. I think we started our run last week.. and continue it today. Heres to a great game with no injuries..

Geaux Saints!!!

Dome Patrol
12-02-2007, 02:02 PM
Got these from another site..
Says Garcia is likely out today.

"Per his wife/message board..

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=151737

and also this as well...

http://www.pewterreport.com/forum/in...?topic=16958.0 "

not sure on the legitimacy of these board's sources.

etk
12-02-2007, 04:42 PM
This is really ******* pissing me off. 5 quality drives and we only have 13 points to show for. The Saints meanwhile, get 2 lucky bombs and are up by a point despite getting shut down otherwise. Once again we are dominating but the score doesn't indicate it because of stupid penalties and the same old inability to
finish drives. What else can I expect from Gruden & the Bucs?

Tampa 2 4 life
12-02-2007, 04:45 PM
This is really ******* pissing me off. 5 quality drives and we only have 13 points to show for. The Saints meanwhile, get 2 lucky bombs and are up by a point despite getting shut down otherwise. Once again we are dominating but the score doesn't indicate it because of stupid penalties and the same old inability to
finish drives. What else can I expect from Gruden & the Bucs?

Don't worry. Their run game has been average, and I don't expect them to get lucky on deep passes the whole game. We should pull through if Luke Mccown keeps playing like a Pro Bowler.

etk
12-02-2007, 04:48 PM
Don't worry. Their run game has been average, and I don't expect them to get lucky on deep passes the whole game. We should pull through if Luke Mccown keeps playing like a Pro Bowler.

That's exactly what's worrying me. We "should" pull through, but a lot of the times we don't. We will have to continue to dominate to get a close win because we don't finish drives well. We do everything perfect and then we **** it up inside the 30, it's pathetic. Our defensive line is playing like crap btw. It's not looking good.

Caddy
12-02-2007, 05:25 PM
That the kind of rubbish you were referring to etk? ie 53 INT

Canadian_kid16
12-02-2007, 05:47 PM
If we lose again by one point, I'm gunna flip...

Tampa 2 4 life
12-02-2007, 06:23 PM
I love you Jerramy Stevens!

Chucky
12-02-2007, 06:28 PM
Sean Payton is the major GOAT, what a brutal play call.

Also Gruden had a bery ballsy play call on that 4th and 1

Dome Patrol
12-02-2007, 06:30 PM
I cant believe the game was that close.. the Saints should have lost by a greater margin than that. They played horribly. Our pass D is aweful.. Good game Bucfans.. you guys showed up and did what you had to do to get it done... we, unfortunately, did not.

zCaddyz
12-02-2007, 07:00 PM
man i been in 49th for the last week and its good to come out and see the bucs pull out a w

Chucky
12-02-2007, 07:08 PM
ONe more win and we clinch the division(I am pretty sure)

etk
12-02-2007, 10:17 PM
I love you Jerramy Stevens!

Welcome to Tampa, Jerramy Stevens.

Once again we get off with a close victory even though we should've either won by 10+ or lost narrowly.

I didn't really understand one thing during the game. We were backed up inside our own 10 and McCown was scrambling to the right. If he threw the ball OoB, we would've been facing a 3rd down deep in our own zone. Smith sacked McCown for the safety and the announcers said "that's the best play of the season for Smith", when it wasn't. I was cheering. We should've given up the 2 points voluntarily for field position's sake. That was a key turning point, I'm so glad McCown F'd up.

Chucky
12-02-2007, 10:20 PM
Welcome to Tampa, Jerramy Stevens.

Once again we get off with a close victory even though we should've either won by 10+ or lost narrowly.

I didn't really understand one thing during the game. We were backed up inside our own 10 and McCown was scrambling to the right. If he threw the ball OoB, we would've been facing a 3rd down deep in our own zone. Smith sacked McCown for the safety and the announcers said "that's the best play of the season for Smith", when it wasn't. I was cheering. We should've given up the 2 points voluntarily for field position's sake. That was a key turning point, I'm so glad McCown F'd up.

You cant predict that Payton would make such a stupid play call though

etk
12-02-2007, 10:24 PM
You cant predict that Payton would make such a stupid play call though

No you cannot, but we had enough time on the clock to enable us to give up the 2 points and try to get a stop. You rarely see teams come out with points when they're backed up so deep in their own end, so regrouping was the best option.

Caddy
12-03-2007, 03:03 AM
The Division is ours.. All Ours!!!! Muahaha :D

Auron
12-03-2007, 06:05 AM
Arrgghh, that was one of the worst play calls ever why in the world would you call that play that late in the game with the other team having just used up all their timeouts? :mad:

without Brees we probably have the same record as the Dolphins this season.

Canadian_kid16
12-03-2007, 06:29 AM
wow what a game, That was a prety horrible win,but a win's a win, so thats all I can ask for

Great playcall though by Payton, I loved it

diabsoule
12-04-2007, 07:28 PM
One of the most boneheaded play calls all year cost us a shot at the division.