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P-L
11-30-2007, 07:26 PM
I like this mock better than my first two, but it's still not where I'd like it to be yet. As always, reasoning why you disagree with a pick and suggest an alternate. Comments like "bad pick" will be deleted, joking or not.

Round 1
1. Miami Dolphins Glenn Dorsey, DT, Louisiana State
2. New England Patriots (f/ SF) Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
3. St. Louis Rams Jake Long, OT, Michigan
4. Oakland Raiders Chris Long, DE, Virginia
5. New York Jets Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
6. Cincinnati Bengals Sedrick Ellis, DT, Southern California
7. Atlanta Falcons Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
8. New Orleans Saints James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
9. Baltimore Ravens Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
10. Kansas City Chiefs Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
11. Minnesota Vikings Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
12. Carolina Panthers Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)
13. Chicago Bears Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
14. Arizona Cardinals Vernon Gholston, OLB, Ohio State
15. Houston Texans Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
16. Buffalo Bills Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
17. Denver Broncos Reggie Smith, S, Oklahoma
18. San Diego Chargers Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
19. Philadelphia Eagles DeSean Jackson, WR, California
20. Washington Redskins Calais Campbell, DE, Miami (FL)
21. Seattle Seahawks Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
22. Dallas Cowboys (f/ CLE) Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
24. Tennessee Titans Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State
25. Detroit Lions Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
26. Pittsburgh Steelers Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
27. Jacksonville Jaguars Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
28. New York Giants Keith Rivers, OLB, Southern California
29. San Francisco 49ers (f/ IND) Dre Moore, DL, Maryland
30. Green Bay Packers Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
31. Dallas Cowboys Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
32. New England Patriots forfeited

Round 2
33. Miami Dolphins Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
34. St. Louis Rams DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State
35. Oakland Raiders Sam Baker, OT, Southern California
36. New York Jets Quentin Groves, OLB, Auburn
37. San Francisco 49ers Early Doucet, WR, Louisiana State
38. Atlanta Falcons James Davis, RB, Clemson
39. Cincinnati Bengals Thomas DeCoud, S, California
40. Baltimore Ravens Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
41. Kansas City Chiefs Terrell Thomas, CB, Southern California
42. Minnesota Vikings Tony Hills, OT, Texas
43. Carolina Panthers Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
44. Chicago Bears Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee
45. New Orleans Saints Chevis Jackson, CB, Louisiana State
46. Atlanta Falcons (f/ HOU) Frank Okam, DT, Texas
47. Buffalo Bills DeJaun Tribble, CB, Boston College
48. Denver Broncos Dan Connor, ILB, Penn State
49. Miami Dolphins (f/ SD) Eric Young, OG, Tennessee
50. Philadelphia Eagles Jamar Adams, S, Michigan
51. Washington Redskins Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
52. Arizona Cardinals Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
53. Cleveland Browns Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida
54. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern California
55. Tennessee Titans Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State
56. Detroit Lions Heath Benedict, OL, Newberry
57. Seattle Seahawks Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
58. Jacksonville Jaguars Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
59. New York Giants Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
60. Pittsburgh Steelers Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
61. Indianapolis Colts John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
62. Green Bay Packers Philip Wheeler, OLB, Georgia Tech
63. Dallas Cowboys Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
64. New England Patriots Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan

Round 3
65. Miami Dolphins Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
66. New England Patriots (f/ OAK) Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
67. New York Jets Maurice Murray, DE, New Mexico State
68. San Francisco 49ers Joe Flacco, QB, Deleware
69. St. Louis Rams Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
70. Cincinnati Bengals Beau Bell, OLB, UNLV
71. Atlanta Falcons Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
72. Kansas City Chiefs Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
73. Minnesota Vikings D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
74. Carolina Panthers Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
75. Chicago Bears Craig Steltz, S, Louisiana State
76. New Orleans Saints Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
77. Buffalo Bills (f/ BAL) Ezra Butler, OLB, Nevada
78. Buffalo Bills Fred Davis, TE, Southern California
79. Minnesota Vikings (f/ DEN) Marcus Griffin, S, Texas
80. Chicago Bears (f/ SD) Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech
81. Philadelphia Eagles King Dunlap, OT, Auburn
82. Washington Redskins Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
83. Arizona Cardinals Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
84. Houston Texans Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee
85. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
86. Tennessee Titans Jacob Tamme, TE, Kentucky
87. Detroit Lions Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech
88. Seattle Seahawks Kerry Brown, OG, Appalachian State
89. Cleveland Browns Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
90. New York Giants Mike McGlynn, OT, Pittsburgh
91. Pittsburgh Steelers Tommy Blake, DE, Texas Christian
92. Jacksonville Jaguars Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
93. Indianapolis Colts Darrell Robertson, DE, Georgia Tech
94. Green Bay Packers Michael Hart, RB, Michigan
95. Dallas Cowboys Keilen Dykes, DE, West Virginia
96. New England Patriots Jeremy Leman, ILB, Illinois

NIN1984
11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
Sam Baker in the 2nd round, hell yeah! two great Raider picks.

Turtlepower
11-30-2007, 07:31 PM
I really like the Rivers pick in round 1, and the McKelvin pick intrigues me. He can be a boom or bust with his speed, but we need a CB so it is either him or Godfrey there. I don't know much about Mike McGlynn, but OT depth is always a need. I also wouldn't mind Allen Patrick or another quick RB there.

Good job. =D

Edit: Whoa, I didn't see Sam Baker drop tot he second. Nevermind, I would like him as a Giant if he falls to us. Our offense lives or dies on the o-line as was seen the past couple weeks and if we can get a great pass-protector, he is our guy.

Windy
11-30-2007, 07:31 PM
great oakland picks.

Jim Jim
11-30-2007, 07:32 PM
The best day one Green Bay mock that I've seen this year.

Yung Flippa
11-30-2007, 07:32 PM
Good Ravens draft.

619
11-30-2007, 07:40 PM
best day one oakland mock ive seen this year :D

fenikz
11-30-2007, 07:41 PM
Great overall mock, love the Cardinals picks, Gholston is probably number 3 on our big board behind McFadden and Jenkins

Although I know Bowman was hurt to start the year and I haven't had a chance to see him play, he is extremely talented and if he is anything like he played last year he could be a huge steal.

I don't know much about Chris Johnson other than he is a dual threat RB, kind of reminds be too much of J.J. Arrington just by looking at his size and stats, I think we could use some more O-line depth here or a SS to back up Wilson

Jakey
11-30-2007, 07:44 PM
Love the Steelers picks...BUT...i would prefer to land Crable in round 2 (he was still on the board) Good job!

EDIT: Scratch that...i just saw Tommy Blake in the 3rd...:D :D :D I likey even more!

D-Unit
11-30-2007, 07:46 PM
Disappointed to not see Loadholt in your draft.

Did you give Talib to Dallas based on that being his draft value range and our need? Or do you think he's a good fit for Wade Phillip's system? Or all of the above? Other Dallas fans like him, but I'm not one of them. I don't think he's physical enough for Wade. He covets guys who can disrupt timing and jam guys off the line (Quentin Jammer, Drayton Florence) to buy time for his blitz to work... moreso than finesse cover corners who can cover for a long time.

Unless Flozell Adams is resigned, which I'm 50/50 on, I don't think Dallas passes on those top OTs.

Chucky
11-30-2007, 07:47 PM
Earl Bennet fills a need
Lawrence Jackson is exactly who i want with our second rounder
I think the 3rd round is a little too early for Dixon, especially considering the injury

P-L
11-30-2007, 07:47 PM
I'll admit, I probably would've give Dallas Loadholt had I put him in this mock.

SuperMcGee
11-30-2007, 07:51 PM
That draft is actually really good for the Bills. The needs are definitely addressed and I like who we get. Fantastic back to back picks in the third round.

fischbowl
11-30-2007, 07:56 PM
That draft is actually really good for the Bills. The needs are definitely addressed and I like who we get. Fantastic back to back picks in the third round.

im actually not a big fan of the last three picks.

I've never liked Tribble or Butler.

At those spots, I think I'd prefer Dwight Lowery and Jonathan Goff (move Poz outside)

derza222
11-30-2007, 07:57 PM
Very good job with the Jets, and a very nice job with the Bengals as well. Obviously the Jets would have difficulty passing on McFadden there but your job in the middle rounds looking at the front 7 was very good, and the Bengals obviously need defense which you did a good job addressing as well based on positions taken with which players were available.

ironman4579
11-30-2007, 08:02 PM
I was surprised to see Jamar Adams ahead of Crable PL. I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind it. Team need, or do you just like Adams more as a prospect?

gsorace
11-30-2007, 08:02 PM
I love the Jets picks, although I would prefer Roy Schuening in the third, but Murray isn't a bad pick

P-L
11-30-2007, 08:06 PM
I was surprised to see Jamar Adams ahead of Crable PL. I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind it. Team need, or do you just like Adams more as a prospect?
Team need and depth at the position. Safety is extremely thin while there are plenty of guys who project as 3-4 OLB.

GB12
11-30-2007, 08:06 PM
The best day one Green Bay mock that I've seen this year.
First two are good, I'm still not liking Mike Hart though. By not taking a RB in round 1 it means we're committed to Grant as our #1. If that's the case I see no reason to take a RB at all in the draft. We have all these backs returning if we want them.

#1-Ryan Grant
#2-Deshawn Wynn
#3-Brandon Jackson
#4-Vernand Morency
#5-Noah Herron

Depth was never the problem, we just needed a guy to step up as the starter. We seem to have that with Grant now. I think we'll let Herron go from the start and bring the other 3 into training camp to battle it out for the 2 and 3 spots.

KCJ58
11-30-2007, 08:09 PM
I'll be happy with the Rams Mock

SuperMcGee
11-30-2007, 08:27 PM
im actually not a big fan of the last three picks.

I've never liked Tribble or Butler.

At those spots, I think I'd prefer Dwight Lowery and Jonathan Goff (move Poz outside)

Tribble was the one I'm iffy with, but I do like Butler; the guy's a football player. As a whole I can't complain with this mock.

Jim Jim
11-30-2007, 09:06 PM
First two are good, I'm still not liking Mike Hart though. By not taking a RB in round 1 it means we're committed to Grant as our #1. If that's the case I see no reason to take a RB at all in the draft. We have all these backs returning if we want them.

#1-Ryan Grant
#2-Deshawn Wynn
#3-Brandon Jackson
#4-Vernand Morency
#5-Noah Herron

Depth was never the problem, we just needed a guy to step up as the starter. We seem to have that with Grant now. I think we'll let Herron go from the start and bring the other 3 into training camp to battle it out for the 2 and 3 spots.

DeShawn Wynn is unreliable, and I question his maturity/toughness to play in the NFL. Brandon Jackson could be servicable, but hasn't shown ANYTHING this year to prove that he deserves a spot on our team. Morency doesn't look like the same player last year. Herron is a non issue.

GB12
11-30-2007, 09:17 PM
DeShawn Wynn is unreliable, and I question his maturity/toughness to play in the NFL. Brandon Jackson could be servicable, but hasn't shown ANYTHING this year to prove that he deserves a spot on our team. Morency doesn't look like the same player last year. Herron is a non issue.
If we didn't have Grant then those are great reasons to take one. The guys we have as backups are good enough to where taking another in the first three rounds wouldn't be worth it. We took Brandon Jackson in the second last year so he will get a chance to at least be the #2. Deshawn Wynn got 200 yards and 4 TDs on 50 carries, he'll get another shot aswell. Morency hasn't lived up to expectations and he'll probably be gone but he's still averaging 4 ypc. We usually only keep 3 RBs on the roster and I think Grant, Wynn, and Jackson to be it. I'd be rather surprised if we draft a RB.

neko4
11-30-2007, 09:40 PM
The best day one Green Bay mock that I've seen this year.
Agreed, but how good is wheeler at coverage especially on TE's

Travis 24
11-30-2007, 09:51 PM
Can someone please have the Eagles address the secondary????...seriously...they are not gonna take an offensive lineman or outside linebacker early on. They need atleast 3 defensive backs in this draft, and I'd expect 2 early...

princefielder28
11-30-2007, 10:02 PM
The best day one Green Bay mock that I've seen this year.

echo that.....

Matthew Jones
11-30-2007, 10:04 PM
I think Jenkins in the first round for New England would be a bit of a reach and more of a need pick than anything. I would personally prefer McFadden there, only because I feel he is the better player, and then someone like Trae Williams instead of Barton in the third. But Jenkins isn't bad, and I love the Crable and Leman picks.

skinzzfan25
11-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Calais, Rodgers-Cromartie, Sweed

HOLY! I'd love that draft.

Hines
11-30-2007, 11:21 PM
i like the steelers draft, but i wouldnt touch blake in the third...leman is still on the board and i think he would be the guy the steelers select if he is still there..hes too good to pass up and brings taht steeler mentality to the team that they always preach


b+

Jensen
11-30-2007, 11:56 PM
Why do the Cardinals pick 14th the 1st round, but 20th the 2nd and 3rd rounds?

PACKmanN
12-01-2007, 12:02 AM
Give us Beau Bell or Shawn Crable in the second and that would become the best packers mock.

USAF Chief
12-01-2007, 06:36 AM
If you had put Loadholt in this draft, the Chiefs would most likely take him @ 10 overall in R1. He is exactly the type of mauler that Edwards wants in a franchise LT.

Im fine with TT in the 2nd and I like Schuening in the 3rd. I'd see a possible package of picks trade to move into the 3rd and grab a second prospect, that being Speiker out of MU/Mack out of Cal or Pollak out of ASU to play Center, and then grab Hillis from Arkansas in the 4th.

^^^^ That would be the most productive mock in recent Chiefs history.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-01-2007, 06:45 AM
nice raven picks

Bills2083
12-01-2007, 08:08 AM
16. Buffalo Bills – Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
47. Buffalo Bills – DeJaun Tribble, CB, Boston College
77. Buffalo Bills (f/ BAL) – Ezra Butler, OLB, Nevada
78. Buffalo Bills – Fred Davis, TE, Southern California


It's a great Bills draft IMO. The only thing is that I might like taking Dan Connor instead of Tribble in the 2nd. Then, we can take a CB with one of our picks in the 3rd.

But I'd like this draft if it did happen

diabsoule
12-01-2007, 08:43 AM
Great first round pick for the Saints.

In the second Chevis Jackson is good but I would rather have Frank Okam or Dan Conner.

In the third I would rather have Ezra Butler or a CB.

BaLLiN
12-01-2007, 11:23 AM
Giants picks are alright

Go_Eagles77
12-01-2007, 11:46 AM
I would be very happy with that draft for the eagles.

T-RICH49
12-01-2007, 12:44 PM
IMHO I'd rather take Clady over Otah just a personal preferance but love the 2nd and 3rd round picks

23_phins_84
12-01-2007, 01:21 PM
Beautiful Dolphins draft

atleast the first 2 picks anyways. If they got both of them, Id be happy with just that. I wouldnt care about the rest.

bored of education
12-01-2007, 02:24 PM
A+++++++++++= for Chiefs

bearsfan_51
12-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Steltz reminds me a bit too much of Archuleta, but I would be fine with the pick.

etk
12-01-2007, 02:27 PM
I like this mock better than my first two, but it's still not where I'd like it to be yet. As always, reasoning why you disagree with a pick and suggest an alternate. Comments like "bad pick" will be deleted, joking or not.

Round 1

23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt

54. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern California

85. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
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Not too happy with the Bennett pick. I don't want to see us reaching for a wideout just because it's a need. Other options which I would approve of would be: Sam Baker, Chris Williams, Felix Jones or Brandon Flowers. Baker and Flowers are my top 2 choices of that group.

Jackson is a great pick.

Once again, I don't want to see us drafting a QB just for the sake of it. We have too many 3-step drops and quick throws for a guy like Dixon to be effective. He would be handcuffed in our offense and it wouldn't be a great fit for team or player. I'd replace him with a WR, RB, CB, or Kelien Dykes, depending on what the 1st pick was.

Scotty D
12-01-2007, 02:36 PM
Very strong Lions draft. Benedict is slated for RT/OG correct? The only thing I might look at is Goff in the third. Ellis is a fine pick though.

scottyboy
12-01-2007, 03:12 PM
Cant complain at all with the Giants 1st pick, dont know much about our 2nd pick, but the position is perfect.

the 3rd pick, eh I'm not sure.
A) I dont like him b/c he went to Pitt
B) Safety is more of a need talent wise. We need OL depth that I'd want us to adress in rounds 4-6.

P-L
12-01-2007, 03:19 PM
Why do the Cardinals pick 14th the 1st round, but 20th the 2nd and 3rd rounds?
Teams with the same record rotate draft position by round. Here is an example (completely made up):

4 teams have 8-8 records.

Round 1
17. Team A
18. Team B
19. Team C
20. Team D

Round 2
17. Team B
18. Team C
19. Team D
20. Team A

Round 3
17. Team C
18. Team D
19. Team A
20. Team B

Round 4
17. Team D
18. Team A
19. Team B
20. Team C

regoob2
12-01-2007, 06:40 PM
This is by far the best Bears mock I have seen. All 4 picks are our top needs and the value of each is good.

JT Jag
12-01-2007, 06:46 PM
First two are good, I'm still not liking Mike Hart though. By not taking a RB in round 1 it means we're committed to Grant as our #1. If that's the case I see no reason to take a RB at all in the draft. We have all these backs returning if we want them.

#1-Ryan Grant
#2-Deshawn Wynn
#3-Brandon Jackson
#4-Vernand Morency
#5-Noah Herron

Depth was never the problem, we just needed a guy to step up as the starter. We seem to have that with Grant now. I think we'll let Herron go from the start and bring the other 3 into training camp to battle it out for the 2 and 3 spots.DeShawn Wynn is unreliable, and I question his maturity/toughness to play in the NFL. Brandon Jackson could be servicable, but hasn't shown ANYTHING this year to prove that he deserves a spot on our team. Morency doesn't look like the same player last year. Herron is a non issue.It wouldn't be prudent for the Packers to draft a runningback early, I agree. But if a guy is there in the third or fourth round that can potentially upgrade that depth and be a reliable platoon guy, they definately should pull the trigger.

By the way: Acceptable Jaguars mock. I wouldn't mind if we took DJ Hall in the second over Keenan Burton--- he produced big numbers in a very mediocre offense. The Jags might take a long look at Mike Hart too, and if they think he can be a long-term member of the runningback platoon alongside Maurice Drew, they might take him. But functionally, a OLB or a defensive back would be the best pick there.

GB12
12-01-2007, 06:51 PM
It wouldn't be prudent for the Packers to draft a runningback early, I agree. But if a guy is there in the third or fourth round that can potentially upgrade that depth and be a reliable platoon guy, they definately should pull the trigger.
I fail to see how Mike Hart would upgrade our depth.

JT Jag
12-01-2007, 07:03 PM
I fail to see how Mike Hart would upgrade our depth.Well, based on what you said, it seemed you were against drafting a runningback at all.

rainbeaukid2
12-01-2007, 07:07 PM
for the niners...
1. dre moore
-like the pick if he can play NT, which i am not sure about for lack of knowledge, as that has been a need for the whole nolan regime
2. early doucet
-personally i am not all that high on him as in the games i have seen he has not been all that exceptional. a safety is also a need so decoud could be an option
3. joe flacco
-i have never heard of him or seen him play so i cant comment that much on him, and while qb is definitely a need in this draft, i think that there may be other needs such as wr, maybe dj hall, if a safety is chosen in the second, or a safety here such as jonathon hefney. also, dline is still a huge need and so maybe kendall langford is still an option although the niners have melvin oliver and ray mcdonald waiting in the wings.

Sniper
12-01-2007, 07:13 PM
19. Philadelphia Eagles – DeSean Jackson, WR, California

Not a fan at all of Jackson's. With Jevon Kearse and Darren Howard most likely to be cut, Calais Campbell would be nice here. A top corner like Talib or Cason would be nice too. Keith Rivers would also be super.

50. Philadelphia Eagles – Jamar Adams, S, Michigan
Not a huge fan of Jamar's in the second round. He takes terrible angles and is somewhat inconsistent. Lawrence Jackson, Heath Benedict, Phil Wheeler would be much appreciated

81. Philadelphia Eagles – King Dunlap, OT, Auburn
I could live with Dunlap. Jacob Tamme would also be nice.

We could use some DBs but at those spots, some of them would be reaches

Gridiron
12-01-2007, 07:22 PM
Amazing Jets mock.

Depending on what we do in FA, that 3rd round pick could be interchangeable with Roy Schuening.

Geo
12-01-2007, 07:24 PM
I'd be pleased if the Colts drafted those picks there.

rodri20
12-01-2007, 09:07 PM
Don't you think Malcolm Jenkins is a reach at the #2 overall pick? A guy like Darren Mcfadden would be a great value there.

It would be great if the pats can trade down for a few more picks and get Jenkins, Mcfadden or Laurinaitis.

bearfan
12-01-2007, 10:05 PM
Love the Bears draft, 3rd round Choice is good, but I would also consider Sweed there too

Dolfan2788
12-02-2007, 12:01 AM
Thought it was a great dolphins draft. Not because of the players in particular because players at this point that are picked in the first round could drop out of draft contention by the start of the draft. But moreso because of the positions at which you had the dolphins draft. G, CB and DT are all big needs and you hit them on the head.

iloxygenil
12-02-2007, 04:58 AM
I don't know how Atlanta could pass on offensive tackles until the 3rd round. We need 2 of them, and I don't see who we'd get in Free Agency that would allow us to ignore that. I like the pick of a RB in the 2nd and I think that Davis will be a solid RB, but does he fit the Petrino mold for a RB? I'm not sure. Obviously the easy decision would be to take Brian Brohm for the Falcons but you went with Matt Ryan instead, may I ask why? I don't dislike the pick, but I kinda feel like it may be a little high for his value (in my eyes, not everyone else's)

I'd rather see us take Tony Hills (pair him up with Blalock again) and pass on Davis with our 1st 2nd round pick. Then if he's there with our 2nd 2nd round pick fine, otherwise I'm happy with the Okam pick. I do think Dan Connor would be a better choice there for the Falcons though. Then with the 3rd round pick after getting Hills in the 2nd we could pass on OT in the 3rd, even though we need 2 tackles, but you've got GREAT value on the boards at our 3rd round pick in guys like DJ Hall, Tashard Choice, Limas Sweed, Dennis Dixon (if this could be predicted I'd be happier with him than Ryan) and Michael Hart. As to which one I prefer, it'd be between Choice and Sweed, I'm not sure which of those I like better. I know our WRs really have been turning around, and I really like Robinson, but Limas is an incredible value there, but then Choice really could be the back that takes the brunt of the blows from the defense in Petrino's system and lets Norwood get enough touches to be effective...so...I'm not sure!

Suggested Falcons alternate mock...
1st - Matt Ryan
2nd - Tony Hills
2nd - Dan Connor
3rd - Choice / Sweed

SubNoize
12-02-2007, 11:18 AM
great Raiders draft, but I'm still sold on the idea that if McFadden and Long were both on the board, we'd take McFadden. I know the Dline is atrocious, but is the run game in any better shape? I think McFadden is a huge upgrade over Jordan and Rhodes who are both done after this year, and Fargas is a career backup. Bush is the unknown variable, but a proven commodity is always nice. I think too much emphasis is placed on Long being Howie's kid. The hard thing is, you never can predict Al Davis and it could easily go either way. Round 2 is a great choice and one I could see Oakland making, nice work.

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2007, 05:29 PM
Im not a huge fan of Talib, not very physical, Mike Jenkins, Reggie Smith would be alot better fits imho.....although Felix jones is an excellent pick, speedster, has vision, and he would be a beast with Barber...couldnt do much better then that, if we dont take Jones I dont wanna touch rb until 2nd day, we can find a speed back to go with barber....Is Tashard Choice leaving?? I could see him in our backfield as well


And on a side note, you dont think Oakland would take McFadden if he fell to them?? Find it hard to believe they wouldnt even with Fargas, JR and run DMC would be a great way to build your offensive future...they could do that and continue with the o line building

diabsoule
12-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Excellent Saints first rounder.

In the second I'd like to see us either take Frank Okam or Dan Conner if they are there.

In the third, I'd like to see us go after DT, OLB, or FS depending on what we went after in the first two rounds.

Overall good effort.

Bar-bq
12-10-2007, 11:59 PM
3. St. Louis Rams Jake Long, OT, Michigan

34. St. Louis Rams DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State
69. St. Louis Rams Trae Williams, CB, South Florida


I'd like to suggest an alternative, if I may, basically for value's sake (all alternatives are taken after the Rams pick, and IMO you're just off.)

Round 1: Chris Long
Round 2: Sam Baker
Round 3: J. Steltz

would be an ideal first day.

Shane P. Hallam
12-11-2007, 12:22 AM
Great job with the Steelers PL. I do think we'll address WR on the first day though, just an FYI, but not bad.

DChess
12-11-2007, 03:10 AM
boo on the kevin smith pick. dline!!!

also i just want to say i that i stated last year that malcolm jenkins was the clear cut #1 corner for this years draft when everybody was putting justin king and others ahead of him. thats is all

also great mock pl, just boo on the kevin smith pick

Brothgar
12-11-2007, 03:33 PM
Great Lions mock. Cason will do great in both the return game as well as the secondary which are really needs for the lions. Geting the OL in round 2 is another good pick definantly a big need.

As for the 3rd round I think ILB is a greater need than DE. If he is still available Jonathan Goff I think would be a better pick. I know it was a bad pick but they did draft Hawaii 50 in the second round last year so even though Edwards is on the way out we need to give the kid a shot and even if he isn't the answer Jared DeVries is a better DE than Paris Lenon is a MLB. This is just my oppinion though.

Cashmoney
12-11-2007, 03:44 PM
Spot on with the titans day one needs IMO. But im not sure about bowman. he better have some speed to get seperation because we already have some slow receivers who cant get open.

weasel
12-11-2007, 10:28 PM
I cannot see them winning the rest of the year.
The draft pick I believe they need to make is LT.
The Cover 2 scheme is not as dependent on cover skills but rather run support and tackling. A decent corner should emerge from the second round.
So here is the plan for the Lions:
2006 - 63 sacks allowed and dead last rushing
2007 - leading the league in sacks allowed and dead last rushing.
the scheme is somewhat responsible but LT is where I start
1st round) Ryan Clady OT If he is available we select him, hands down.
2nd Round) Terrell Thomas CB a good corner will be available and I say we grab one in the second. Cromartie, McKelvin, Talib, Jenkins, Jenkins, Tribble, Lowery, Castille , Flowers, Ikegwuono...
3rd Round) J Leman MLB speed and enough size to play the middle of the Tampa 2 defense.

Also, I look for the Lions to move a big name on the roster and get an early second round pick or late first round pick for him. While I know you don't include trades when that trade is made the Lions will have a second round pick or late first to play with and I hope they play with Philip Merling DE

wonderbredd24
12-12-2007, 12:27 AM
Looking at this from the Browns point of view, I would be ecstatic to end up with Kevin Smith from UCF and Kendall Langford from Hampton.

It addresses two enormous needs for the Browns. Kevin Smith is going to be an outstanding running back, plus I am very high on Langford who has great athleticism for someone his size and would be a nice edition to a pitiful defensive line.

georgiafan
12-12-2007, 09:05 AM
good job addresing needs with the falcons, I would hope they would go OT in round 2. But DT and HB are also needs

Incinerator
12-12-2007, 12:33 PM
<edit> didn't mean to post

ABWA757
12-13-2007, 07:23 AM
great bills picks...but i dont see fred davis falling to the 3rd round...

johbur
12-14-2007, 02:40 AM
Is the order your projection on how the teams will end the year or where the teams were when you made this mock?

Round 1
14. Arizona Cardinals Vernon Gholston, OLB, Ohio State
Solid pick to rotate in with the injury problems at DE and how the Cards have been changing the defense.

30. Green Bay Packers Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
I believe he's going back to school as he still has a year of eligibility left. He had that burglary last year, so that also makes me nervous with him being an R1. Who needs a Pac-Man? He's got the credentials and potential, but I'd rather have Mike KJenkins, though the same argument about whether he's an R1 applies, just without the baggage, and he was the All-American over Ike.

Round 2
52. Arizona Cardinals Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
Nice size, but I'm interested how he times. Would be solid for AZ to address this area, though a bit high IMO for Bowman.

62. Green Bay Packers Philip Wheeler, OLB, Georgia Tech
Not a need area for this high a pick. He's also a bit undersized for the SLB, but he's athletic and a playmaker who can bring pressure and get picks. With Hawk, Barnett not going anywhere and they play the nickel, taking a two down player this high doesn't thrill me. Toss in Hodge and Bishop in the mix next year. I think Wheeler's decent value here, but not for GB.

Round 3
83. Arizona Cardinals Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
Would complete a solid Day 1 for the Cards. Need areas addressed and 2 out of 3 for value.

94. Green Bay Packers Michael Hart, RB, Michigan
Could be a home-run hitter scat-back type, but I haven't seen too many GB RBs under 200 pounds. Hart seems a bit small and not with the blazing speed to be thought of as an everydown guy. The WCO requires the RB to be a solid blocker, and maybe Hart will show he can handle it on those third down plays. That said, Ryan Grant is not just a fad. He'll be the #1 next year, barring injury. Brandon Jackson drafted in R2 last year, and he and Vernand are both decent out of the backfield. Toss in DeShawn Wynn who had a decent rookie campaign prior to his injury and the success Noah Herron had last year, and unless the Packers want that true change-of-pace back, I don't see Hart going to GB, regardless of round. R3 would be a solid place to pick him up, but they don't even need him for KR/PR duties given they have Koren Robinson and Will Blackmon, along with Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson doing Special Teams.

IMO, a much better Cardinals draft than a Packers draft.

Finsfan79
12-14-2007, 09:28 AM
hard to complain for that miami draft

We get a nice CB, a nice DT, a nice OG and RT (dont like personally but still nice there).

interesting draft :)

Don Killuminati
12-14-2007, 04:51 PM
I'd take Groves over Baker for Oakland, but I'd be more than content with this draft.