my kind of coach

[bantx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpxjl23QFH8

i wish we had these kinds of coaches at my school instead of the coaches that babyd us

"year of the bull" documentary about a highschool football team i wanna see the whole thing

[Moses]

Taurean Charles...the definition of a headcase.

[bantx]

where can i get this i want to watch the whole thing

[Ho0k Em']

I would beat his ass.

[steelersfan43]

Wow, why on earth would you want that psycho as your coach, hes ****** up.

[Moses]

Wow, why on earth would you want that psycho as your coach, hes ****** up.

Yup, that pretty much defines bad coaching. It's no surprise that a lot of these kids have a rude awakening when they get to college. Those coaches are less mature than your average grade nine kid.

[bantx]

some kids like that need a good ass whoopn to get their head right apparently the coach didnt beat him hard enough, taurean charles getting dismissed from miami

coaches at my school let the kids run their mouth talk **** to them and they dont do nothing

[bantx]

Yup, that pretty much defines bad coaching. It's no surprise that a lot of these kids have a rude awakening when they get to college. Those coaches are less mature than your average grade nine kid.

bad coaching? them being #1 in the nation for how many years really defines how they are doing as a coach they must be doing something right

[Moses]

bad coaching? them being #1 in the nation for how many years really defines how they are doing as a coach they must be doing something right

I'd say the talent they have there has a lot more to do with it than the coaching. Treating players like that is bad for them as both players and people.

[bantx]

I'd say the talent they have there has a lot more to do with it than the coaching. Treating players like that is bad for them as both players and people.

talent is worthless without good coaches anyone who has played football knows that

[Ho0k Em']

bad coaching? them being #1 in the nation for how many years really defines how they are doing as a coach they must be doing something right

This coach is preaching respect when he doesn't have respect for his own players.

[bantx]

This coach is preaching respect when he doesn't have respect for his own players.

u dont know that neither do i, could be tough love or not but if the players didnt respect them would they still be playing for them?

[Moses]

talent is worthless without good coaches anyone who has played football knows that

That is hardly true, especially in high school. Give me a team of D1 prospects and give Don Shula a team of high school scrubs and see who wins. He can outcoach me all day but in high school superior talent is the most important thing. You can only teach so much to kids at that level.

Also, the key thing about coaching high school football is skill development, developing a love for the game, and developing your players into men. Maybe those coaches do a good job developing skills, I don't know I haven't seen enough. However, it's clear they don't do a good job helping their players mature and develop a love for football. The coaches are as emotionally unstable as the players.

[Ho0k Em']

u dont know that neither do i, could be tough love or not but if the players didnt respect them would they still be playing for them?


Tough love???? If my own father were to treat me like that I wouldn't hesitate to drop him, let alone my football coach. Maybe that's just me, but I wouldn't consider that tough love.

[bantx]

That is hardly true, especially in high school. Give me a team of D1 prospects and give Don Shula a team of high school scrubs and see who wins. He can outcoach me all day but in high school superior talent is the most important thing. You can only teach so much to kids at that level.

Also, the key thing about coaching high school football is skill development, developing a love for the game, and developing your players into men. Maybe those coaches do a good job developing skills, I don't know I haven't seen enough. However, it's clear they don't do a good job helping their players mature and develop a love for football. The coaches are as emotionally unstable as the players.

i need to watch the whole thing too, but from what i see i like the way they do things you can tell me im crazy, but being coached by a head coach taht doesnt even want to be at our school any more and 2 games left into the season him resigning and leaving the other coaches without any warning. And us being babied the whole season with no control of our football team. We had kids that have a lot of talent being looked at by so many colleges with the type of attitude taurean had, then get babied after them running their mouth all practice. What you said earlier about the huge awakening when they get the college, theyre going to see it too, coming from coaches who babied them letting do what they want, they will end up just like taurean charles

[TACKLE]

Psycho High Bulls

[bantx]

Tough love???? If my own father were to treat me like that I wouldn't hesitate to drop him, let alone my football coach. Maybe that's just me, but I wouldn't consider that tough love.

i said could i havnt seen the whole documentary yet but i will once i find out where i can get it

[DChess]

that coach is awesome, that douche bag needed to be knocked on his ass

[bantx]

that coach is awesome, that douche bag needed to be knocked on his ass

agreed....

[sdpads24]

That coach would be fired so fast at my school. You can't fight with the players as a coach no matter what the player says or does.

[SuperKevin]

These coaches have the worst case of little man syndrome I've ever seen

[bantx]

That coach would be fired so fast at my school. You can't fight with the players as a coach no matter what the player says or does.

same here but i dunno i guess florida coaches do what they want

[iowatreat54]

wow and people wonder why kids from these environments get in trouble later in life....

[bantx]

wow and people wonder why kids from these environments get in trouble later in life....

are u seriously blaming the coaches for what they do in later in life? dont get me wrong if im reading this wrong, but what about their parents that could have an effect on how they will act when they get older

[iowatreat54]

are u seriously blaming the coaches for what they do in later in life? dont get me wrong if im reading this wrong, but what about their parents that could have an effect on how they will act when they get older

I didn't mean to say that the coaches are the only factor, but for a young athlete they are prolly 2nd biggest...I mean look at the kid, he has no respect for his coaches and his coaches show no respect towards him...I'm sorry, but you can't honestly tell me that the way these coaches, who are supposed to be role models for the kids, are acting appropriately and show these kids what they should act like when they get older...of course not all kids in that situation get in trouble, but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that kids who grow up in situations like I described are more likely to get in trouble in life than kids with appropriate role models

[bantx]

I didn't mean to say that the coaches are the only factor, but for a young athlete they are prolly 2nd biggest...I mean look at the kid, he has no respect for his coaches and his coaches show no respect towards him...I'm sorry, but you can't honestly tell me that the way these coaches, who are supposed to be role models for the kids, are acting appropriately and show these kids what they should act like when they get older...of course not all kids in that situation get in trouble, but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that kids who grow up in situations like I described are more likely to get in trouble in life than kids with appropriate role models

i can agree with u on that but that kid taurean was gonna be like that regaurdless, he was big headed thinking he was king before he even got to college, and thinking he could do what he wanted when he wanted to, and it all starts at home

[iowatreat54]

i can agree with u on that but that kid taurean was gonna be like that regaurdless, he was big headed thinking he was king before he even got to college, and thinking he could do what he wanted when he wanted to, and it all starts at home

well yes that certainly seems so, but if he had coaches who didn't stand for that, yet were still intimidating and respectful, do you really think he would have kept up with that kind of attitude? I mean, yes there are other factors, but besides this one kid, do you honestly think that the way those coaches act are appropriate to be coaching, mentoring, and acting as role models for high school age kids?

[bantx]

well yes that certainly seems so, but if he had coaches who didn't stand for that, yet were still intimidating and respectful, do you really think he would have kept up with that kind of attitude? I mean, yes there are other factors, but besides this one kid, do you honestly think that the way those coaches act are appropriate to be coaching, mentoring, and acting as role models for high school age kids?

yeah i can agree with that, but it is a film that both of didnt watch the whole thing of. maybe the documentary only showed the bad and none of the good? who knows, im just saying if the coaches acted like that and the kids didnt like it wouldnt they just leave? or tell talk about it to their parents?

[Moses]

yeah i can agree with that, but it is a film that both of didnt watch the whole thing of. maybe the documentary only showed the bad and none of the good? who knows, im just saying if the coaches acted like that and the kids didnt like it wouldnt they just leave? or tell talk about it to their parents?

Leave? And go where? A lot of these kids have scholarships lined up.

It doesn't even matter if they like it or not. The coaches are doing a disservice to those kids. Coaches are like teachers. They need to operate with a certain level of dignity and professionalism.

[bantx]

Leave? And go where? A lot of these kids have scholarships lined up.

It doesn't even matter if they like it or not. The coaches are doing a disservice to those kids. Coaches are like teachers. They need to operate with a certain level of dignity and professionalism.

they can leave and go to a different school, scholarship doesnt matter what school u go to...you can still get the scholarship if they offered it already. I know a few people who moved from a different school to our school and still get their scholarship so leaving is an option

[Moses]

they can leave and go to a different school, scholarship doesnt matter what school u go to...you can still get the scholarship if they offered it already. I know a few people who moved from a different school to our school and still get their scholarship so leaving is an option

That's not exactly the best option in the middle of a season. Plus, you expect their family just to pack up and move? It's not as easy as you think. It's a moot point anyway, the coaches are doing these kids a disservice and I have no clue why you would want meatheads like that running your football program.

[iowatreat54]

yeah i can agree with that, but it is a film that both of didnt watch the whole thing of. maybe the documentary only showed the bad and none of the good? who knows, im just saying if the coaches acted like that and the kids didnt like it wouldnt they just leave? or tell talk about it to their parents?

yea or you know, get the coaches fired if they really want...because the coach tackling the kid alone would prolly at least warrant a suspension...but it's obvious the kids don't really care and for the ones like Taureen, are looking past this toward leaving, where they think they will be able to act like that in college and do whatever they want, then go to the NFL and do the same...the bottom line, like moses said, is that those coaches are there to teach kids how to play football and how to live life with dignity and respect for other people, and it's obvious that just isn't the case there

[bantx]

That's not exactly the best option in the middle of a season. Plus, you expect their family just to pack up and move? It's not as easy as you think. It's a moot point anyway, the coaches are doing these kids a disservice and I have no clue why you would want meatheads like that running your football program.

you dont need to move....not all schools is a one town school,you can just transfer to a different school. After watching that video u didnt think that he wasnt pushing the coach either?

[iowatreat54]

you dont need to move....not all schools is a one town school,you can just transfer to a different school. After watching that video u didnt think that he wasnt pushing the coach either?

so just because a 16-18 year old kid is yelling at a 30+ year old man, he has the right to swear, threaten, and tackle him? again, neither has any respect for the other in the video, but coaches/teachers are expected to show control and act appropriately...if a kid is yelling at you like he was, kick him out of practice or off the team, there is absolutely no reason to swear back or use physical force on a kid in that situation

[Moses]

you dont need to move....not all schools is a one town school,you can just transfer to a different school. After watching that video u didnt think that he wasnt pushing the coach either?

Kids are always going to push parents/teachers/coaches. Coaches have a responsibility to act like adults in those situations. That means not resorting to fist fights and spitting matches.

[bantx]

so just because a 16-18 year old kid is yelling at a 30+ year old man, he has the right to swear, threaten, and tackle him? again, neither has any respect for the other in the video, but coaches/teachers are expected to show control and act appropriately...if a kid is yelling at you like he was, kick him out of practice or off the team, there is absolutely no reason to swear back or use physical force on a kid in that situation

how times have i said this? i agree with u jesus, i know tackling and fighting with the kid is wrong.. its a differnt envornmient, at alot of schools in rough area's you'll see a similar attitude, I guess its the only way to get to kids from areas like that, but who knows the documentary only showed what they wanted to show

[kwilk103]

not all schools let you transfer; in the middle of the season in pa, the ad has to sign off

at my school, to transfer in is like $5000 per year

[bantx]

not all schools let you transfer; in the middle of the season in pa, the ad has to sign off

at my school, to transfer in is like $5000 per year

u have to pay to transfer? not in texas where im at, just need to sign some papers and make sure the school isnt already full

[kwilk103]

yea, one of my bros friends looked to transfer in cuz his mom taught there, but you had to pay

[iowatreat54]

how times have i said this? i agree with u jesus, i know tackling and fighting with the kid is wrong.. its a differnt envornmient, at alot of schools in rough area's you'll see a similar attitude, I guess its the only way to get to kids from areas like that, but who knows the documentary only showed what they wanted to show

ok, you're right, we agree, but it just made it seem like when you said "you don't think the kid was pushing him too" that you justified how the coaches acted...yea we don't know what the rest of the documentary shows, but I find it hard to believe that in the rest of the movie the coaches pull a 180 or even make a 90 degree turn around from what was shown...and I understand it is a different environment and I'm no expert in dealing with kids, but to me the only time to threaten/use violence or those kind of actions shown is if you feel immediately threatened by the situation, which I find hard to believe there

[sdpads24]

yea, one of my bros friends looked to transfer in cuz his mom taught there, but you had to pay

I'm sure what your talking about are private schools. Public schools aren't allowed to charge you for anything. (Where I live at least)

[bored of education]

what a ***** that kid is

[bored of education]

he doesnt want to get injured. you dont practice you dont play. i dont care where the hell you going AFTER the season

[kwilk103]

I'm sure what your talking about are private schools. Public schools aren't allowed to charge you for anything. (Where I live at least)

no i go to public; he lives in the city school district (but the part where he lives is real nice) and the school isnt as good as the one i went too

he goes to a private school now since he cant go to ours; its like 45 min away

you also cant transfer for athletics; there was a wrestler in our section that transferred to our rival; his parents said he had a learning disability and our rival had a better program; state found it was due to athletics and he had to sit out the year

[Cashmoney]

damn i cant believe they have idiots like that coaching at high schools. If i was that player that got tackled that coach wouldnt have gotten away from me without cleat marks all over his ass.

[j05son]

They could transfer, open enrollment. If the school has it, you don't have to live within their limits.

I liked the coach, I just thought he went to far on the fight. I don't think you can get that physical. The headslaps [with helmets] and such is old school.

I like coaches that have that fire ex) Bobby Knight.

[bantx]

They have this at blockbuster if anyone wants to watch the whole thing

['cuse-213]

My coach is 10x the coach he is. And I dont think Ive ever heard him raise his voice. Its about respect. And my team arent scrubs. AA NY state champs this year.

[jballa838]

Spoiler: Taurean Charles eventually makes it to the University of Florida on a football scholarship when the movie ends. Since then - at UF he was arrested twice, suspended for the entire 2004 season after beating another student up and throwing a keg at his head (second arrest), then finally dismissed in March 2005. Watch how his HS football coaches teach him how to act at UF, and you won't be surprised at how he ended up.

[bantx]

spoiler? most people should know all that :P

[bantx]

My coach is 10x the coach he is. And I dont think Ive ever heard him raise his voice. Its about respect. And my team arent scrubs. AA NY state champs this year.

eh highschool football in the south is much more different

[iowatreat54]

eh highschool football in the south is much more different

obviously, so is grammar...jk ;)

[someone447]

you dont need to move....not all schools is a one town school,you can just transfer to a different school. After watching that video u didnt think that he wasnt pushing the coach either?

That isn't allowed in most places. In Texas you had to go to the school in whichever district you were in, unless you wanted to transfer for academic reasons(like an IB program.)

I had a ****** coach in HS, I hated him. He was a ******* prick and didn't know anything about football. Yet I didn't quit, why? Because dealing with a ****** coach was worth it to play football. As much as I hated the guy, I can't look back and regret continuing to play, because I am playing in college now. No thanks to my coach.

Seriously, tell their parents? Have you ever been in a football locker room? As soon as word gets out that you got the coach fired because you told your parents on him, you are getting your ass beat for being a little *****. It doesn't matter if everyone else hated the coach. You were the ***** who couldn't deal with it. You will be treated like a *****. Peer pressure is probably the biggest influence on teens actions.

[someone447]

eh highschool football in the south is much more different

It is completely different. My family moved from El Paso(probably the worst HS football in the state of Texas) to Milwaukee, WI. My dad and little brother said that my high school would beat everyone up there by 3 tds.

[someone447]

I can promise you that after you play under a coach like that, you wouldn't rather have a coach like that. Coaches have almost as big of an impact as parents. When you have a coach that beats you down like that, you lose all confidence. It happens in college still. When you are developing your personality, a coach like that can ruin you, both on and off the field.

[jballa838]

i think those kids are screwed for life. they will not change
Taurean Charles eventually makes it to the University of Florida on a football scholarship when the movie ends. Since then - at UF he was arrested twice, suspended for the entire 2004 season after beating another student up and throwing a keg at his head (second arrest), then finally dismissed in March 2005. Watch how his HS football coaches teach him how to act at UF, and you won't be surprised at how he ended up.
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[kwilk103]

my wrestling coaches were tough on us---in the room

outside the room, they were like overgrown kids; heck, one of the assisstant coaches helped us trash a hotel room, by holding wwe in it

[someone447]

my wrestling coaches were tough on us---in the room

outside the room, they were like overgrown kids; heck, one of the assisstant coaches helped us trash a hotel room, by holding wwe in it

There is a difference between being tough and being a complete ass. Being tough is good, being an ass like the coaches in the video is not.

[bantx]

other than that fight i liked the way they do things, yeah they cussed but get real its the real world kids cuss like that, coaches muffing the players helmet what coach doesnt doing that, the speeches they gave would have motivated me before the game...but other than the fight i liked the way they did things

[someone447]

other than that fight i liked the way they do things, yeah they cussed but get real its the real world kids cuss like that, coaches muffing the players helmet what coach doesnt doing that, the speeches they gave would have motivated me before the game...but other than the fight i liked the way they did things

Speaking from someone who has had a coach like that, it wears on you incredibly quick. I don't have a problem with the cussing, it is the complete lack of respect they show.

[ironman4579]

Anyone that likes those coaches obviously haven't seen the whole movie. When that scene was filmed, Charles was coming back off a serious neck injury. He was knocked unconcious in game, lost feeling in his extremities(I believe, haven't seen it in awhile) and was taken off the field in an ambulance on a back board with his head and neck immobilized. This was his first time back on the field since the injury. Charles was a head case, that's true, and I'm not sticking up for him here. But that's bush league coaching, regardless if he's fighting with the players or not. You expect a high school kid who's just had the scare of his life, of thinking his dreams might have been taken away in a flash, to come back and instantly be who he was, as a player and a person? The coaches need(ed) to grow up and act like adults and men, as well as be a little more concerned with the welfare of the players, and less with winning games.

[bantx]

Anyone that likes those coaches obviously haven't seen the whole movie. When that scene was filmed, Charles was coming back off a serious neck injury. He was knocked unconcious in game, lost feeling in his extremities(I believe, haven't seen it in awhile) and was taken off the field in an ambulance on a back board with his head and neck immobilized. This was his first time back on the field since the injury. Charles was a head case, that's true, and I'm not sticking up for him here. But that's bush league coaching, regardless if he's fighting with the players or not. You expect a high school kid who's just had the scare of his life, of thinking his dreams might have been taken away in a flash, to come back and instantly be who he was, as a player and a person? The coaches need(ed) to grow up and act like adults and men, as well as be a little more concerned with the welfare of the players, and less with winning games.

yeah i need to see the movie i was just basing with what i saw

[Mr. Stiller]

There's a difference between tough love and commanding respect... and what those jackasses do.

Lets beat our players, berate them.. Yes that will get them to respect me.

Just like when I go home... I beat my wife and kids.. why? Tough love.. they'll respect me?

My coach in high school was a hardass, and the only time he or any of the assistants put their hands on a player was to refine technique or to point something out. I know he'd tap us on the head or something.. but I never have seen a coach in my 7 years of playing football, attack their own players like that.

Did you see that coach running after the ball carrier? The kid feared him and started backing up to the road. There should be respect, not fear. Fear can create harmful environments. Respect is completely different.

If you want that kind of coach, build a time machine and dial into 1940's Germany.

['cuse-213]

eh highschool football in the south is much more different

True. Our QB is very legit, a little short but one of the best (hs) ive seen. and hes barely getting recruited.

['cuse-213]

Did you see that coach running after the ball carrier? The kid feared him and started backing up to the road. There should be respect, not fear. Fear can create harmful environments. Respect is completely different.


Yeah, I felt bad for the kids.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I didn't watch all of this, but I for one hate coaches like this. Belittling me, hitting me, and cursing me isn't going to pump me up. It's not going to make me play harder. If anything it's going to lower my desire to play at all, because I'd have to deal with this ********.

['cuse-213]

I didn't watch all of this, but I for one hate coaches like this. Belittling me, hitting me, and cursing me isn't going to pump me up. It's not going to make me play harder. If anything it's going to lower my desire to play at all, because I'd have to deal with this ********.

Yeah, I like knowing that if I **** up in a game, my coach isnt going to fist fight me.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

My friend's dad, and my other friend's uncle(same guy) is a coach on the intense side. I was talking to my friend I said "Dude, watch this video, this coach is 10 times more intense than your uncle" and he said "i unno guy, my uncle punched a guy in the head". Then he watched the video and agreed with me. He punched a kid once cuz it was right at the end, they were losing, and the opponent ran out of bounds, and one of the kids he was coaching(I think he was on the bench at the time) went and tackled the guy who ran out of bounds. So that's deserving of a punch to the helmet.

He's coached, at least a bit, on all three of the teams I've been on, but he only actually coached me a bit this year, when I played some defense as well as offense. He definitely makes you respect him, because he's a fantastic coach, and used to be a pro football player.

[bantx]

Yeah, I like knowing that if I **** up in a game, my coach isnt going to fist fight me.

ok now ur over exaggerating im not saying it was right to fight, and i now know that taurean was injured real bad before this, but he refused to do the drill and continued to run his mouth and they get into it

['cuse-213]

ok now ur over exaggerating im not saying it was right to fight, and i now know that taurean was injured real bad before this, but he refused to do the drill and continued to run his mouth and they get into it

I was being a little sarcastic. Im never completely serious.

[bantx]

well its hard to detect sarcasm over the internet