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king2am
12-11-2007, 05:39 PM
The trades can be viewed as quite aggressive, but it made it interesting for me to do this, and it gives a different look.

You may not agree with some or any of these picks, but keep
it pleasant.

1. Miami Dolphins: Glenn Dorsey. I tried to come up with a
trade that would benefit them, but I just don't see any
suitors for the number one spot. With that said, McFadden is
the most electric player on the board but if Miami really
wanted a two headed RB system, Brown and Chatman would fit
the bill. Dorsey it is.

2. St. Louis Rams: Jake Long. Chris Long could also go here
and it wouldn't make much difference to the organization.
However, I think Jake would make more of an impact, helping
out that offensive line.

3. New England Patriots: Darren McFadden. If the only reason
for picking McFadden is to spite the rest of the NFL, then
that would be enough. But on top of that, their offense
would hit the field with Brady, Moss, Welker, Stallworth,
Watson, and then McFadden and/or Maroney. Unfair I know.

4. New York Jets: Chris Long. He's their guy, unless
McFadden falls.

5. Atlanta Falcons: *Trade* 1st in 2008 to Chicago Bears.
Receive Chicago's 1st and 2nd in 2008.

The Falcons have more wrong with their football team than
just the QB, where as Chicago, I feel, is a QB away from
getting back to where they should be. So, Atlanta trades
down, gains an extra pick, and Chicago gets...

Chicago Bears: Matt Ryan, arguably the best QB in the draft,
the Bears will target him early, and won't be able to settle
with Woodson or Brohm.

6. Oakland Raiders: *Trade* 1st in 2008 to Cincinnati
Bengals. Receive Cincy's 1st, 3rd, and 6th in 2008.

With Dorsey, Long, Long, McFadden, all off the board the
Raiders narrow their choice down to Sedrick Ellis or Calais
Campbell. I believe the Bengals want the presence inside
their Defensive Line more than the Raiders, so Oakland
allows this trade and lets Cincy narrow it down for them.

Cincinatti Bengals: Sedrick Elllis. He's that type of high
motor high intensity defensive lineman that can have an
immediate impact. Marvin Lewis needs to get this guy.

7. Kansas City Chiefs: Phillip Loadholt. The Chiefs have
been searching for an offensive line ever since Shields and
Roaf left. They get a mammoth of a man to replace one of
those spots.

8. Baltimore Ravens: Andre Woodson. Matt Ryan is the other
QB I think Baltimore is looking at, because I think Brian
Brohm has the best chance to succeed in Atlanta, and other
teams are looking for different things. Woodson is the guy
who can get this aging franchise going in the right
direction.

9. Philadelphia Eagles: Malcom Jenkins. It's just the way it
went down. The Eagles catch a break and get the best
secondary player in the draft.

10. Oakland Raiders (from Cincinatti): Calais Campbell. As
stated above, it was between two players, both D-Line, so
the Raiders got an extra pick and an impact player.

11. Atlanta Falcons (from Chicago): Brian Brohm. When all is
said and done, they get Brohm, and in the process load up on
picks.

12. Carolina Panthers: Ryan Clady. Both of their offensive
tackles are free agents at the end of this season, and if
that team is going to get any better they're going to need
bodies up front.

13. Washington Redskins. Frank Okam. Campbell, Ellis,
Dorsey, Long. All of them are gone by now and the need for
the Skins is to get a Defensive lineman. Okam demands
attention inside the trenches, and I think makes a great fit.

14. New Orleans Saints: Dan Connor. The type of hard noses
player that can alter the attitude of this sometimes shaky
defense.

15. Houston Texans. Sam Baker. They could also go
runningback here, but I believe they value Matt Schaub a
little more. Baker is the guy that can keep Schaub from
looking up from the ground.

16. Detroit Lions. James Laurinitais. Well look who fell to
number sixteen. I'm a firm believer that the Lions need an
entire makeover up front on offense. However, the
combination of Ernie Sims, James Laurinitais, and Boss
Bailey is too much for me to pass up. Detroit would have the
best Linebacking corp in the NFC North and that's saying
something.

17. Denver Broncos: Kenny Phillips. With the recent release
of Sam Adams, I could see Frank Okam landing here if he gets
past Washington, which is very possible. However, Kenny
Phillips is the playmaker at safety that Denver is going to
need, especially after Lynch leaves.

18. Arizona Cardinals: Vernon Gholston. I'm just as
surprised as you are. Fits in nicely with their new 3-4
attack and can really energize that new stadium.

19. Tennessee Titans: Malcom Kelly. The big, reliable target
that Vince has been waiting for.

20. Minnesota Vikings. Reggie Smith. Although they are
getting better at defending the pass, Reggis Smith is a
playmaker who can elevate the secondary.

21. Buffalo Bills: Adarius Bowman. I avoided Desean Jackson
because, as I've said before I think Lee Evans and Jackson
are too similar of players. And at the request of Bills fans
to grab a bigger framed wide receiver. Kelly was gone two
spots before, so Bowman is the guy.

22. Tampa Bay Buccanneers: Desean Jackson. A little run on
Wide Receivers, and the Bucs land the most explosive. Can
help immediately in the return game.

23. San Diego Chargers: Erin Henderson. Something has to be
done about the interior of that 3-4.

24. Dallas Cowboys: Johnathan Stewart. Picking just ahead of
Seattle ensures that Stewart, the best PURE runningback in
the draft, ends up wearing a Start on his helmet. Julius
Jones can walk now, without any reprocussions.

25. Seattle Seahawks: Rashard Mendenhall. Stewart is gone,
but Mendenhall is a nice settle for them.

26. Pittsburgh Steelers: Michael Oher. I'm willing to put
any offensive lineman here for Pittsburgh. But Oher's
ability to play guard and tackle makes him the pick.

27. New York Giants: Keith Rivers. They have enough D-
lineman, and while I think Reggie Smith is the favorite for
Gaints fans, he's unfortunately not available. Keith Rivers
is a gem of a LB though and will be a great fit in NY.

28. Jacksonville Jaguars: Derrick Harvey. I still think this
is the hardest spot to pick for, but Harvey gives them that
edge rush.

29. San Francisco 49ers: Quentin Groves. In all honesty, I
could see the aggressive draft day Nolan regime going up and
getting Gholston if he falls past a certain number, but
Groves is a guy you can put on the opposite side Manny
Lawson and tell em to go get the QB.

30. Green Bay Packers: Mike Jenkins. Not a lot of holes on
this packer's team, and a young team at that.

31. Dallas Cowboys: Aqib Talib. After getting Stewart with
their first pick, I could see a pick go to WR, but Talib
could play nickel right away and eventually push Henry to
start opposite Newman.

32. They Cheated.

33. Miami Dolphins: Gosder Cherilus

34. St. Louis Rams: Laurence Jackson

35. San Francisco 49ers: Limas Sweed

36. New York Jets: Kentwan Balmer

37. Atlanta Falcons: Roy Scheuring

38. Oakland Raiders: Barry Richardson

39. Kansas City Chiefs: Antoine Cason

40. Baltimore Ravens: Jack Ikegwuonu

41. Philadelphia Eagles: Shawn Crable

42. Cincinnati Bengals: Ali Highsmith

43. Atlanta Falcons (from Chicago): Red Bryant

44. Carolina Panthers: Erik Ainge

45. Washington Redskins: Jonathan Hefney

46. New Orleans Saints: Zack Bowman

47. Atlanta Falcons: Jordy Nelson

48. Detroit Lions: Tony Hills

49. Denver Broncos: Dre Moore

50. Arizona Cardinals: Tracy Porter

51. Tennessee Titans: Xavier Adibi

52. Minnesota Vikings: Earl Bennett

53. Buffalo Bills: Demarrio Presley

54. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Kirk Barton

55. Miami Dolphins: Early Doucett

56. Cleveland Browns: J. Leman

57. Seattle Seahawks: Thomas Decoud

58. Pittsburgh Steelers: Eric Young

59. New York Giants: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

60. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dejuan Tribble

61. Indianapolis Colts: Ray Maualuga

62. Green Bay Packers: Phillip Wheeler

63. Dallas Cowboys: DJ Hall

64. New England Patriots: Tommy Blake

king2am
12-11-2007, 05:41 PM
Okay let me be the first to say, that I just saw that Bobby Petrino is leaving Atlanta for the Arkansas Job. This mock was written down on paper before the headline broke, and I copied and pasted it.

After I posted this mock, I went to espn, making my rounds, and saw this. So I apologize ahead of time, but I wasn't aware.

princefielder28
12-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Like what you did with Green Bay

king2am
12-11-2007, 05:45 PM
Hey Fielder, do you go to CMU games?

scar988
12-11-2007, 05:52 PM
trade down - good
Brohm - good
Scheuring over Richardson? - no go. we get Barry Richardson at the first 2nd rounder cause OT is a bigger need than OG.
Bryant - good pick
Nelson - WHO? and a WR? DIDN'T I TELL YOU LAST TIME THAT WE HAVE ZERO NEED FOR A DAMN WR!!!! WE DON T NEED A DAMN WR!!!! WE need OT, NT, QB, MLB, power RB. WR is noty a need at all. give us Phillip Wheeler here.

and dude, put positions with the names cause some of these players I have no position what they play off the top of my head,

king2am
12-11-2007, 05:59 PM
trade down - good
Brohm - good
Scheuring over Richardson? - no go. we get Barry Richardson at the first 2nd rounder cause OT is a bigger need than OG.
Bryant - good pick
Nelson - WHO? and a WR? DIDN'T I TELL YOU LAST TIME THAT WE HAVE ZERO NEED FOR A DAMN WR!!!! WE DON T NEED A DAMN WR!!!! WE need OT, NT, QB, MLB, power RB. WR is noty a need at all. give us Phillip Wheeler here.

and dude, put positions with the names cause some of these players I have no position what they play off the top of my head,


First of all, I respect your passionate opinion regarding your team. I do.
And I would gladly give the Falcons OT before OG, I just figured they needed help up front. With that said I still believe whichever qb they bring in (not so sure it's brohm now after petrino leaves) is going to need more than Roddy White as his #1 receiver.

Brian Brohm
Roy Scheuring (Barry Richardson, he's available)
Red Bryant
Jordy Nelson

Franchise Qb, helpu up front, an impact D player, and then GOOD VALUE for the pick and a helpful presence on the field for that young qb.

Sorry Scar, that's just how I see it. Thank you for looking it over though.

regoob2
12-11-2007, 06:00 PM
I don't know if the Bears would tradethe whole draft to move up a couple spots to gain a guy that wouldn't help for 2 to 3 years. If he fell to us I'd be ok with it but we never trade up especially not in round one. I could never see that happening.

scar988
12-11-2007, 06:02 PM
First of all, I respect your passionate opinion regarding your team. I do.
And I would gladly give the Falcons OT before OG, I just figured they needed help up front. With that said I still believe whichever qb they bring in (not so sure it's brohm now after petrino leaves) is going to need more than Roddy White as his #1 receiver.

Brian Brohm
Roy Scheuring (Barry Richardson, he's available)
Red Bryant
Jordy Nelson

Franchise Qb, helpu up front, an impact D player, and then GOOD VALUE for the pick and a helpful presence on the field for that young qb.

Sorry Scar, that's just how I see it. Thank you for looking it over though.

Jenkins is our #2 and has been doign well. White has been sick, we don't need a WR. and will not WASTE a pick in the first day on a WR> White is good, Robinson has been emerging and Jenkins is solid on pace for 600 yards and 5 Td's is not a bad year for a #2. and Richardson over Scheuirng makes mroe sense to me because OG is not nearly as big of a need as a franchise LT is. we won't watse a pick on a WR in the first 5 rounds. mainly because our top 4 are fine. and honestly, I don't care if you think Jenkins and White and Robinson and Hron aren't enough cause Rich McKay likes them.

king2am
12-11-2007, 06:02 PM
I don't know if the Bears would tradethe whole draft to move up a couple spots to gain a guy that wouldn't help for 2 to 3 years. If he fell to us I'd be ok with it but we never trade up especially not in round one. I could never see that happening.

Fair enough.

It was just something to change up mock a little bit.

skinzzfan25
12-11-2007, 06:04 PM
Frank Okam at 13 seriously made me gag. Yeah he demands double teams, too bad he can't stay on the field long enough to play. Griffen has a little left in the tank, Anthony Montgomery is developing into a great 2-gap DT, and Golston provides good pressure for a DT.

First round I'd take Gholston, Baker, or Kelly.

And just because Sean died doesn't mean we need FS help. Landry is coming into his own, AT FREE SAFETY. Doughty is a decent SS, at least thus far. I'd wait till the end of the season to see if we need to use a 2nd round pick on pretty much a luxury.

Second round I'd take Nelson, Moore, Pressley or DJ Hall depending on the 1st round selection.

Worst Redskin mock I've seen so far.

EDIT: Your older mock was better :(

king2am
12-11-2007, 06:10 PM
Frank Okam at 13 seriously made me gag. Yeah he demands double teams, too bad he can't stay on the field long enough to play. Griffen has a little left in the tank, Anthony Montgomery is developing into a great 2-gap DT, and Golston provides good pressure for a DT.

First round I'd take Gholston, Baker, or Kelly.

And just because Sean died doesn't mean we need FS help. Landry is coming into his own, AT FREE SAFETY. Doughty is a decent SS, at least thus far. I'd wait till the end of the season to see if we need to use a 2nd round pick on pretty much a luxury.

Second round I'd take Nelson, Moore, or DJ Hall depending on the 1st round selection.

Worst Redskin mock I've seen so far.



Who would the first rounder be then? I didn't know which way to go with all the other popular picks gone already.

king2am
12-11-2007, 06:25 PM
Who would the first rounder be then? I didn't know which way to go with all the other popular picks gone already.

I guess I view Vernon Gholston as more of a 3-4 guy, but I probably should have put him in there at 13.

Crazy_Chris
12-11-2007, 06:26 PM
Reggie Smith and Earl Bennet would be great for the vikings.

skinzzfan25
12-11-2007, 06:30 PM
I guess I view Vernon Gholston as more of a 3-4 guy, but I probably should have put him in there at 13.

I view him that way as well. Preferably I'd like to trade down there if possible. But will Calais off the board, the next best thing is Gholston. Gregg could use him very similar to the way he uses Marcus Washington who's getting old and costly.

Hand in the dirt some plays, in a stance the other.

derza222
12-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Nice job with the Jets, our front 7 definitely needs an infusion of talent and those two would go a long way towards helping that. One question. Do you have Long playing OLB for us? Because if so that's fine, but if you think he settles in at DE I'd rather not go DE with the first 2 picks because we have a ton of needs.

Bills2083
12-11-2007, 06:38 PM
Good Bills draft. I would be ecstatic if we could get Fred Davis and a CB in the 3rd. Then we'd just have to sign Landon Johnson in the offseason, and our defense would be pretty much set...

bored of education
12-11-2007, 06:51 PM
A+ for KC, good work.

king2am
12-11-2007, 06:54 PM
I view him that way as well. Preferably I'd like to trade down there if possible. But will Calais off the board, the next best thing is Gholston. Gregg could use him very similar to the way he uses Marcus Washington who's getting old and costly.

Hand in the dirt some plays, in a stance the other.


Yeah, hindsight 20/20 I guess. However lol, my gag reflex doesn't kick in for Frank Okam, I think he could be solid.

But more than fair enough stance, and good point.

T-RICH49
12-11-2007, 08:45 PM
7. Kansas City Chiefs: Phillip Loadholt. The Chiefs have
been searching for an offensive line ever since Shields and
Roaf left. They get a mammoth of a man to replace one of
those spots.

Love this pick

39. Kansas City Chiefs: Antoine Cason


If he fell to us in the 2nd I'd throw a parade

Xonraider
12-11-2007, 08:54 PM
Hey are you a Bengals fan? This is a HORRIBLE trade for Oakland.

6th overall pick:
1600

for

10th overall pick:
1300
74th overall pick:
220
170th overall pick:
24.4

That is 1554.4 points against 1600, which is no even, usually the one trading up exceed the value. Plus I am not even counting next years first. It'll take A LOT more to pull that trade for the Bengals.

DiG
12-11-2007, 08:59 PM
way way way too early for okam. give us gholston in rd 1 then o line or dre moore rd 2.

cordscords
12-11-2007, 09:27 PM
Like what you did with Green Bay

Me too. I like Aqib and Jack a little bit better, but thats a personal preference. CB and OLB makes me happy :)

RaiderNation
12-11-2007, 09:51 PM
good oakland trade. good 1st, dunno about 2nd cuz idk what position he plays

Jensen
12-11-2007, 09:56 PM
Great Cardinals picks.

Travis 24
12-11-2007, 10:13 PM
I like the Eagles draft...Jenkins would be a big help next year as the nickel or even starting. Crable..eh, I mean if he can play WLB..wonderful, I'm just not 100% sure he fits in here. I'd love to see Jordy there in round 2...that would be a sensational draft..but good regardless

urinemonkey
12-11-2007, 10:54 PM
Could not ask for a better Broncos draft.

Vikes99ej
12-11-2007, 11:08 PM
Nice pick for the Vikings, Reggie Smith is an interesting prospect.

aNYtitan
12-12-2007, 12:10 AM
Respectful Titans draft as both positions being addressed would be areas of need. Malcolm Kelly in the first would be lovely, as I view him as a perfect compliment to Young. Adibi, I should know more about him, but I think the Titans would jump all over Maulagua in the second, as I have him evolving into a top flight linebacker. If you expand to a third, I think the Titans would address TE

TACKLE
12-12-2007, 12:20 AM
I don't think Kenny Phillips will make it past Carolina, New Orleans, and Houston. Denver would sure be lucky if he did.

king2am
12-12-2007, 11:26 AM
Nice job with the Jets, our front 7 definitely needs an infusion of talent and those two would go a long way towards helping that. One question. Do you have Long playing OLB for us? Because if so that's fine, but if you think he settles in at DE I'd rather not go DE with the first 2 picks because we have a ton of needs.

I think Long could play anywhere for Mangini actually, and as my Niners are finding out, you can never have enough capable bodies up front in the 3-4

king2am
12-12-2007, 11:28 AM
I don't think Kenny Phillips will make it past Carolina, New Orleans, and Houston. Denver would sure be lucky if he did.

The only one I could see taking him is Carolina.

New Orleans would value Connor higher, and Houston has to decide between RB and OT.