Parcells: Miami's new VP of Operations

[D-Unit]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3160597

The jealous side of me hopes he declines. He's too damn good at it. The Falcons would get turned around in a flash.

Chris Long would be his #1 pick over anyone.

[bearsfan_51]

That'd certainly increase Mike Zimmer's chance of being their new head coach.

[D-Rod]

or Garnett, apparently...

[WMD]

Looks like it's as good as done.

[Brent]

McKay might be on his way to the Niners...

[DiG]

thatd be huge for their franchise. i hope it doesnt happen.

[bsaza2358]

Parcells as a talent evaluator and team builder is great. I do question his ability to pick and work with a coach at this stage, though. BP doesn't seem flexible or understanding enough to forge a long-term relationship with a coach who can really get it done. His ego and coaching instincts could cause friction.

[D-Rod]

While I'd be delighted to have Parcells around, I think there's lots of potential for friction - and given Atlanta's luck, it's almost bound to go wrong.

A three headed monster of BP, GM and HC is going to be very difficult to make work. BP will want to have his say in both levels, and there's a decent chance that he'll piss off both guys at some point. Hopefully he will choose guys with enough guts to stick it out.

[bored of education]

This could be very interesting.

[Sveen]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Falcons owner Arthur Blank is currently in New York to finalize a deal with Bill Parcells.
Parcells is expected to be named executive VP of the Falcons and have full control over football operations. There is speculation that Parcells will pursue Patriots GM Scott Pioli, who is the tuna's son in law, and possibly along with him offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to be Atlanta's next head coach.

Source: Rotoworld

[bored of education]

WOW. Good bye Dynasty. Hello Tom Brady in ATL LOL

[Jughead10]

Bill will clean house. There are too many problem players in Atlanta. I really don't think McKay has done a great job these past few years. And I don't think this past years draft class will help much.

[Shiver]

Scott Pioli as GM please!

[bored of education]

I would love you the see Pioli and McDaniels in ATL. Take them away from the Pats!! I remember Bill Parcells being high on Matt Ryan in one of his talks about future prospects. That could be interesting.

[Jughead10]

Obviously Parcells likes Ryan. He isn't a moron. I think he will really clean house in Atlanta. Not many will be safe in my opinion.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

I'm gonna miss his insight on ESPN... uughh. But good for Atlanta to get a lot of class and accountability starting at the top on down

[Scotty D]

Anyone think this pushes Deangelo Hall out the door?

[Sveen]

It might. Or Hall can become to new "the player" Parcells talks about in his press conferences ;)

[Iamcanadian]

I'm not at all sure that Parcells will be a good front office type. His strength as a HC never involved being much of an innovator or an X's and O's type of HC. His draft history is full of mistakes, heck, he traded Orlando Pace for a bunch of picks that didn't amount to much. His strength was in evaluating his own players and being a great modivator who got his players to play tough, above their skill level but as a strong team player.
He did have a good track record for hiring coaches and that might serve him well.
As for cleaning house, HC's usually decide who stays and who goes not front office people unless they are the interfering types, not a quality you want in your front office. Parcells if he turns out suited for his new position will have the authority to hire the new HC, after that he has the responsibility to draft good players and sign good FA's so his HC's has enough talent to compete. He doesn't make on the field decision about players, that's the HC's responsibility. Parcell's ability in the draft is suspect as he has made many mistakes in that area, his strength is in evaluating the players he has to work with, modivating them to play well and playing tough football.
I'm not at all sure his strengths will be suitable for a front office guy but I guess time will tell.

[Jughead10]

I wouldn't say his draft history is full of mistakes. Everybody has mistakes in the draft, especially if you have been around as long as him.

[Geo]

Interesting, and good news for the Falcons if this turns true. Hopefully Parcells does a weekly press conference too, those are golden.

[Shiver]

I think he will really clean house in Atlanta. Not many will be safe in my opinion.

That is exactly what the Falcons need. Rich McKay did a horrible job of constructing this roster. Fortunately for Parcells/(whoever he gets as GM) they will have nine draft picks, including a top-3 pick and two 2nd round picks, to use to reshape the roster.

Anyone think this pushes Deangelo Hall out the door?

Why? Just because he didn't like Petrino? No one liked Petrino.

[scar988]

That'd certainly increase Mike Zimmer's chance of being their new head coach.
or at worst staying DC.

[scar988]

I'm not at all sure that Parcells will be a good front office type. His strength as a HC never involved being much of an innovator or an X's and O's type of HC. His draft history is full of mistakes, heck, he traded Orlando Pace for a bunch of picks that didn't amount to much. His strength was in evaluating his own players and being a great modivator who got his players to play tough, above their skill level but as a strong team player.
He did have a good track record for hiring coaches and that might serve him well.
As for cleaning house, HC's usually decide who stays and who goes not front office people unless they are the interfering types, not a quality you want in your front office. Parcells if he turns out suited for his new position will have the authority to hire the new HC, after that he has the responsibility to draft good players and sign good FA's so his HC's has enough talent to compete. He doesn't make on the field decision about players, that's the HC's responsibility. Parcell's ability in the draft is suspect as he has made many mistakes in that area, his strength is in evaluating the players he has to work with, modivating them to play well and playing tough football.
I'm not at all sure his strengths will be suitable for a front office guy but I guess time will tell.
this is why I think he'll be a good GM. he'll hire a guy like Singletary, keep Zimmer as DC, bring in a good OC, and then figure out the right help for hte draft which has been Bill Devaney's main job recently (scouting/personnel)
Anyone think this pushes Deangelo Hall out the door?
no, because UNLIKE Johnson or TO, he isn't a ME first player, he's a team layer who was sick of the HC because no one in the club house wanted him as HC.

[Jughead10]

One thing I gaurantee Bill and the next coach does, is make everyone on the Falcons forget about Mike Vick. They won't go for this Vick sentiment that they have been displaying.

[scar988]

One thing I gaurantee Bill and the next coach does, is make everyone on the Falcons forget about Mike Vick. They won't go for this Vick sentiment that they have been displaying.
I agree. and Vick will be CUT with post june 1 designation whether he gives the money back or not.

[Shiver]

Interesting, and good news for the Falcons if this turns true. Hopefully Parcells does a weekly press conference too, those are golden.


Do my eyes deceive me?

[no love]

Deangelo is fine. He is a CB they are the cockiest sob's on the face of the planet.

Everyone thinks that Tuna can't coexist with head cases, but they forget that he had the biggest head case in LT with the Giants. Tuna just doesn't deal with players that are selfish

[scar988]

Deangelo is fine. He is a CB they are the cockiest sob's on the face of the planet.

Everyone thinks that Tuna can't coexist with head cases, but they forget that he had the biggest head case in LT with the Giants. Tuna just doesn't deal with players that are selfish

exactly. and at CB, Hall has been a good leader for our secondary and the other CB's. Houston has been learning a lot from him because Hall wants to see Houston succeed because it will help the team AND it will help the defense more specifically.

[Shiver]

And while some may perceive Hall's feud with Petrino as a poor sign of character, he was the only player who stood up and backed Jim Mora when it was apparent he was going to get fired.

[scar988]

And while some may perceive Hall's feud with Petrino as a poor sign of character, he was the only player who stood up and backed Jim Mora when it was apparent he was going to get fired.
exactly. Hall is a team player, not a super selfish guy. yeah he talks trash, but he's more of a Chris McAllister than Deion Sanders.

[Geo]

Do my eyes deceive me?
Yeah, seems like it's been a while since the Falcons had good news. Plus you know I heart Parcells.

And while some may perceive Hall's feud with Petrino as a poor sign of character, he was the only player who stood up and backed Jim Mora when it was apparent he was going to get fired.
Eh, he was losing his buddy-buddy in Mora who he would give rides to in his Lamborghini, in favor of an actual and authoritative coach who would command the locker room.

[Shiver]

TUNA GOING IRISH?
There's talk in league circles that Bill Parcells plans to pursue Cowboys V.P. of college and pro scouting Jeff Ireland to become the next General Manager of the Atlanta Falcons (http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm#).
Ireland was Parcells' right-hand man in Dallas, and word is that Parcells actually let him run the draft (subject to the periodic involvement of owner/G.M. Jerry Jones).
Ireland is well respected, but largely unknown because he seeks no attention or notoriety.
The pursuit of Ireland could get sticky. Per league rules, Ireland is free to leave only if his contract has expired or if he's getting "final say" authority. Parcells could take the position that "final say" will be delegated to Ireland, but we're not sure anyone will believe it.


http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[Shiver]

Yeah, seems like it's been a while since the Falcons had good news. Plus you know I heart Parcells.


Eh, he was losing his buddy-buddy in Mora who he would give rides to in his Lamborghini, in favor of an actual and authoritative coach who would command the locker room.


The problem was Petrino did none of those things.

[Jughead10]

The problem was Petrino did none of those things.

Was that his fault or the players though?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Was that his fault or the players though?



His. He came in with his big-time college ego, and tried to do the same thing he did with 18 year olds, to veterans. It just isn't going to work. A big part of being a new coach is getting players to buy into what you are doing. Petrino did not.

[Shiver]

Was that his fault or the players though?

Considering the track record of college coaches and the fact that well respected players like Warrick Dunn and Lawyer Milloy voiced their complaints make it seem that Petrino just didn't know what he was doing.

[WMD]

Er.. ESPNews says Bill Parcells is NOT joining the team.

[Geo]

Parcells apparently has an offer from the Dolphins as well. Seriously, you can't bank on it happening unless Parcells actually signs a deal. Learn from the past.

[Shiver]

Wait, what? This sucks badly.

[Shiver]

Do my eyes deceive me?


Apparently they do....

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Apparently they do....



Wow. This would just add onto this mess.

[draftguru151]

Come to Miami Bill.

[Geo]

I've been saying for a while that I think too much of the blame in Miami has gone to rookie head coach Cam Cameron, and instead should be directed at general manager Randy Mueller. So if he gets dumped thanks to a Parcells hire and his own GM, that's definitely a stellar move by the Dolphins.

[WMD]

BILL! Why don't you overthrow somebody in the Lions? We could use a competent executive.

[skinzzfan25]

Come be a GM for the Skins :)

[bored of education]

Kansas Cityyy Needs You William

[Geo]

Come be a GM for the Skins :)
Unlikely, Cowher has his guy in mind already.

[bsaza2358]

Snyder already has his GM in Vinny Cerrato, the guy who has no eye for talent and does whatever his boss says.

[T-RICH49]

Kansas Cityyy Needs You William

YES!come restore store the pride Bill

[Jughead10]

It looks like he may in fact be going to Miami. The deal with the Falcons is officially squashed.

[Flyboy]

LOL, wow, Atlanta keeps getting screwed. I almost feel bad for them.

[Namy]

LOL, wow, Atlanta keeps getting screwed. I almost feel bad for them.

I do feel sorry for them. How much can one franchise endure in a month!

[Flyboy]

I do feel sorry for them. How much can one franchise endure in a month!

I can only have so much empathy for a division rival.

[no love]

And the ship keeps sinking. Mckay is as good as gone, which some might view as a good thing... unless they can't find anyone better.... If they get the wrong guy, then he will hire the wrong head coach and they are up ****-creek for another 2-3 years. This is a critical time for the Falcons to not screw things up.

[BX]

ESPN just confirmed that Parcells rejected the Falcons deal.

[JagHombre22]

hahaha...

he'd be smart to take the Dolphins job...they have already got a head coach and a quarterback that could be the future...all they need is a oline and some defensive help...

[The Legend]

change the name to Parcells: Miami's new VP of Operations?

lol

[Addict]

hahaha...

he'd be smart to take the Dolphins job...they have already got a head coach and a quarterback that could be the future...all they need is a oline and some defensive help...

plus he couldn't mess up that franchise if he tried, hell, two victories and fourteen shutouts would be a result twice as good as this year.

[Twiddler]

It looks like he may have a four year deal with Miami coming up according to SI. Good news for the Fins, although I feel for the Falcons fans in this one.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Glenn Dorsey or Jake Long is a lock.

[D-Unit]

Glenn Dorsey or Jake Long is a lock.
Don't rule out Chris Long. I'd actually put him as the front runner.

Parcells will be there long enough to dethrown the Patriots as the Division champs. So I say that happens in 3 years and Bill retires with 1 year remaining on his contract.

[BehrenMan007]

i hope he brings cowher with him

[FinChase]

i hope he brings cowher with him

I didn't think Bill had any ties to Cowher. He likes guys he's worked with before. Bill, keep your paws off Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano!

[Ewing]

He needs fire Cam Cameron the moment the regular season ends and bring in someone like Cowher or Singletary.

[ks_perfection]

hahaha...

he'd be smart to take the Dolphins job...they have already got a head coach and a quarterback that could be the future...all they need is a oline and some defensive help...

They have a coach and a young QB but thats all we know.

[bsaza2358]

Bill Parcells excels at building OLine and defenses. He's a 3-4 kind of guy, and he knows the draft. As long as Cameron is on board, he will work to help them rebuild that D very quickly. I think it is an excellent hire for the Dolphins.

[bsaza2358]

The best part about the hire for the Phins is that the old generation of "Parcells players" that kind of hamstrung his teams is gone. The likelihood of him overpaying for fading veterans is gone. He can just focus on building the team, which I expect him to do quickly.

[Geo]

I actually think Parcells and Cameron could work together fine, but I could see if Tuna wanted to bring someone he had experience with.

[princefielder28]

He needs fire Cam Cameron the moment the regular season ends and bring in someone like Cowher or Singletary.

Singletary would be more likely b/c I don't see Cowher stepping into a rebuilding team

[draftguru151]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3162909

It's official!

[bored of education]

Wow, good news for the Phins.

[D-Unit]

Bill Parcells excels at building OLine and defenses. He's a 3-4 kind of guy, and he knows the draft. As long as Cameron is on board, he will work to help them rebuild that D very quickly. I think it is an excellent hire for the Dolphins.
Maybe so, but Parcells definitely failed in building the OL in Dallas. His only hit was reviving Columbo's career. He missed on everyone else.... off the top of my head... Al Johnson (Rnd 2), Jacob Rogers (Rnd 2), Stephen Peterman (Rnd 3), Marco Rivera, Ryan Young, EJ Whitney (Rnd 7), Kyle Kosier, etc...

He definitely gets a Grade F for building the OL in Dallas. A+++++++++++++++ for everything else.

[D-Unit]

The best part about the hire for the Phins is that the old generation of "Parcells players" that kind of hamstrung his teams is gone. The likelihood of him overpaying for fading veterans is gone. He can just focus on building the team, which I expect him to do quickly.
I could see him going for Julius Jones, Jacque Reeves, Nate Jones or Patrick Crayton in FA this year.

[DMWSackMachine]

Maybe so, but Parcells definitely failed in building the OL in Dallas. His only hit was reviving Columbo's career. He missed on everyone else.... off the top of my head... Al Johnson (Rnd 2), Jacob Rogers (Rnd 2), Stephen Peterman (Rnd 3), Marco Rivera, Ryan Young, EJ Whitney (Rnd 7), Kyle Kosier, etc...

He definitely gets a Grade F for building the OL in Dallas. A+++++++++++++++ for everything else.

Um.......no? He transformed Flozell from a classic underachiever into a dominant force at times (though still inconsistent, obviously).

Al Johnson was a solid, though unspectacular, starter for us. He wasn't really a "miss" in the classic sense. The real reason why he is gone/out of the lineup, is because Parcells was able to transform Gurode from a scatter-brained, unfocused POS into a perennial Pro Bowler and the best C in the conference. Otherwise Johnson would be still starting.

Kosier has been a solid acquisition. The truth is that you have to have some "solid" guys who are spectacular or dominant particularly, because the salary cap won't allow for too many high-priced guys. Kosier makes 3mil a year, which is about right for a solid starter, which he is. Definitely not a miss.

And then, of course, you have Colombo.

So that is 4 out of 5 starters that he can be directly credited for, on the best line in the conference and maybe the league this year.

Sure, Parcells struggled, but how was he supposed to know that Rivera would herniate a disc in his back 2 weeks after signing? Or that Flozell would tear his ACL in 05? Granted, his drafting of Peterman and Rogers was indefensible, but he made up for it by grabbing McQ in the 7th and reviving Colombo's career.

Parcells was only there 4 years, and while we did struggle at times to get the unit together, it did improve basically every year that he was there, and the success we are having now can be almost entirely credited to him. If Parcells can build the Dolphins a dominant line in 4 years, he will be hailed as a savior.

[Finsfan79]

nice pick up for us but no need to get overjoyed there is a long work ahead after the disaster that wannstache and nick satan turned our team into.

One thing about Wayne H. He loves to make the big time splash and if someone is "the best" he always goes to get them.

aka
jimmy
satan
almost carroll
and now parcells

then he steps out of the way gives them whatever they want to work with even a 50 million dollar practice bubble for nick satan.


Hopefully Bill can pull some strings and find us a future star QB

[D-Unit]

Um.......no? He transformed Flozell from a classic underachiever into a dominant force at times (though still inconsistent, obviously).

Al Johnson was a solid, though unspectacular, starter for us. He wasn't really a "miss" in the classic sense. The real reason why he is gone/out of the lineup, is because Parcells was able to transform Gurode from a scatter-brained, unfocused POS into a perennial Pro Bowler and the best C in the conference. Otherwise Johnson would be still starting.

Kosier has been a solid acquisition. The truth is that you have to have some "solid" guys who are spectacular or dominant particularly, because the salary cap won't allow for too many high-priced guys. Kosier makes 3mil a year, which is about right for a solid starter, which he is. Definitely not a miss.

And then, of course, you have Colombo.

So that is 4 out of 5 starters that he can be directly credited for, on the best line in the conference and maybe the league this year.

Sure, Parcells struggled, but how was he supposed to know that Rivera would herniate a disc in his back 2 weeks after signing? Or that Flozell would tear his ACL in 05? Granted, his drafting of Peterman and Rogers was indefensible, but he made up for it by grabbing McQ in the 7th and reviving Colombo's career.

Parcells was only there 4 years, and while we did struggle at times to get the unit together, it did improve basically every year that he was there, and the success we are having now can be almost entirely credited to him. If Parcells can build the Dolphins a dominant line in 4 years, he will be hailed as a savior.
DWM, you know I am a huge Parcells supporter, but he is not without some fault. I am not criticizing him for his coaching... never have. However, his talent evaluation of OL stunk while he was here.

If you wanna say he "made" Flozell into what he is, I won't discredit that. If you wanna say he "made" Gurode into what he is, I'll give into that one too. But let me throw this out there... food for thought... for all the guys you give him credit for his "coaching up" of... there are all these guys that "coaching up" never worked for while Bill was here.

Ryan Young - Flop
Al Johnson - Flop
Marco Rivera - Flop, I wish we had gone for Mark Whale
Stephen Peterman - Flop
Jacob Rogers - Flop
EJ Whitley - Who? Flop
Matt Lehr - Flop
Tyson Walters - Flop
Torrin Tucker - Flop
Kurt Vollers - Flop
Ben Noll - Flop
Matt Tarullo - Flop
Rob Petitti - Flop
Pat McQuistan - So many Cowboys fans want to crown him because of reports outta camp. We heard the same thing of Rob Petitti. Until I see something become of him, there is not "credit" to give to anyone yet.


Al Johnson was never a "solid" starter for us. He was simply a starter. To this day, he still stinks. As a 2nd round draft pick, I'm calling it a busted pick and you can't blame me for thinking that. There's no logic to support anything other than that. If Gurode hadn't developed, we'd be looking or have found a replacement for Johnson a long time ago. He would NOT be the starter today.

The Kosier signing definitely was not a "bargain" deal at the time he got signed. Is he ok? Sure, he's ok. Is he some great thing that BP needs to get glory for? No. I'll bet we'll be looking to acquire an OG through the draft to start prepping a replacement/upgrade.

The Columbo move was a genius move, so props to him.

As far as evaluating OL talent and piecing the OL together, he gets credit for Kosier and Columbo.

Oh and his handling of Larry Allen during his entire time here was just TERRIBLE.

[Jughead10]

How can you call Rivera not being coached up by Parcells. Rivera was a very good guard for the Packers. He was signed with a terrible back. Is Parcells to blame for that or does that fall on Jerry?

And I'm not familiar, other than just recognizing the name, with many of those guys. But anyone picked in round 5-7 can't be considered a flop. If they are on the team for two or three years and provide depth, I can't consider anyone picked that late a flop.

As far as the O-line I have to think the biggest thing Parcells did was to get the most out of Gurode.

[D-Unit]

How can you call Rivera not being coached up by Parcells. Rivera was a very good guard for the Packers. He was signed with a terrible back. Is Parcells to blame for that or does that fall on Jerry?

And I'm not familiar, other than just recognizing the name, with many of those guys. But anyone picked in round 5-7 can't be considered a flop. If they are on the team for two or three years and provide depth, I can't consider anyone picked that late a flop.

As far as the O-line I have to think the biggest thing Parcells did was to get the most out of Gurode.
Actually, Rivera was not signed with a terrible back. He injured it on a tread mill after he was signed. That signing was all Parcells. The connection between Parcells and Rivera was that they shared the same agent. We should've went with Wahle. He was younger and they thought he would be out of their price range... well he wasn't as his contract was similar to Rivera's. I wasn't calling Rivera a flop coaching wise... it was a flop signing.

Al Johnson - 2nd Round Pick
Jacob Rogers - 2nd Round Pick
Stephen Peterman - 3rd Round Pick

My point about crediting Parcells with "coaching up" players... is that there are 2 sides to every story. Good and Bad.

[Jughead10]

Actually, Rivera was not signed with a terrible back. He injured it on a tread mill after he was signed. That signing was all Parcells. The connection between Parcells and Rivera was that they shared the same agent. We should've went with Wahle. He was younger and they thought he would be out of their price range... well he wasn't as his contract was similar to Rivera's. I wasn't calling Rivera a flop coaching wise... it was a flop signing.

Al Johnson - 2nd Round Pick
Jacob Rogers - 2nd Round Pick
Stephen Peterman - 3rd Round Pick

My point about crediting Parcells with "coaching up" players... is that there are 2 sides to every story. Good and Bad.

Those guys are decently high picks, especially for guards or centers. But the long list of flops you gave was a little misleading. It makes it seem like there were a ton of busts when half the guys were scrubs to start with.

[D-Unit]

Those guys are decently high picks, especially for guards or centers. But the long list of flops you gave was a little misleading. It makes it seem like there were a ton of busts when half the guys were scrubs to start with.
When you have Parcells drafting for you... you get spoiled because 6th and 7th rounders turn into the Jason Fergusons, Patrick Craytons, Jay Ratliffs of the world. I dunno how it's misleading to include them. I think it's misleading to exclude them. ...and then say what a good job of coaching he did.

[Jughead10]

When you have Parcells drafting for you... you get spoiled because 6th and 7th rounders turn into the Jason Fergusons, Patrick Craytons, Jay Ratliffs of the world. I dunno how it's misleading to include them. I think it's misleading to exclude them. ...and then say what a good job of coaching he did.

I personally just don't count on anything from a 6th or 7th round draft pick except depth for two of three years or special teams play. If they turn into anything more than that, then I consider it a great success. For the Giants from 2003-2006, 4 drafts, we only have one guy still on our team that was picked in the 6th or 7th round.

[DMWSackMachine]

lawl, dude. All of those guys were trash to start with. Peterman and Rogers are the only true busts. Johnson gave us 30+ quality starts. He wasn't great, but he was in the range of what your average starter at the position is. There is no way you can call him a flop. He was decent, that's not earth shattering, but look at the 2nd round over the last 30 years and you will find that over half of the players selected there have been as good or worse than Al Johnson. We draftniks tend to overvalue draft picks, and think that anything less than a star player in the 2nd round is bad value. Draft picks real worth is that they provide cheap labor with lots of upside if you can get an edge in the scouting and development aspects of the game. Johnson was a decent starter for very cheap. That's an "ok" pick in my book.

The biggest problem with Parcells is that he doesn't believe in spending real high picks on the OL. He thinks he can find gems in the later rounds and develop a big-time line that way. Well, he wasn't really able to do it that way here, but the end result is a great offensive line--one that he is 80% responsible for putting together.

Btw, don't think I'm accusing you of attacking BP. I know you have been a supporter of his, and that's one of your best qualities, imo.

Parcells got a lot of flack for his inability to field a dominant line. However, a big part of that was a perception issue, because he had Bledsoe standing back there like a statue making his guys look bad. If you want to say that was his biggest problem area, I can agree with you on that, but that's mainly because of the resources that were being invested there. Rivera was the only real major investment they made, and his freak injury prevented him from ever panning out. Jacob Rogers and his pansy ass attitude kinda soured Bill on going the high-draft-pick route, so we never got to see what he could do with a guy like Jammal Brown or McNeill. Just imagine what would have happened if we were able to get Shawn Andrews in 04 like he wanted to so badly. That one move right there could have changed the whole tenor of this argument.

[Iamcanadian]

I'm not sold on Parcells as a drafter. He was a great HC but that doesn't necessarily mean he will be good in the front office. as a drafter. In Dallas, a lot of solid football people had imput into the draft not just Parcells.
His strength as a HC was his ability to get his team to play better than the individual parts would indicate. He was a great modivator and I'm not sure at all that it will translate well to the front office.
One thing is for certain, his judgment about coaches was very solid but his actual drafting skills is yet to be tested if he completely controls the draft.

[jballa838]

Ok Question for you guys:
With Bill in, how does that impact Ricky Williams future?
I think Ricky is as good as gone, because Bill wants his types of players in there.