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soybean
12-20-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20071220&Kategori=UPDATE&Lopenr=712200490&Ref=AR&Show=0

you'd think he'd at least keep ron english. but im sure he knows what it takes to build a strong defense. [/sarcasm]

Turtlepower
12-20-2007, 10:03 PM
Rich Rodriguez is going to change Michigan... For the worse.

kwilk103
12-20-2007, 10:15 PM
hahahaha

say hello to the 3-3-5 um and 5 plays

duckseason
12-20-2007, 10:28 PM
I heard Terrelle Pryor really liked Scot Loeffler. I guess you can't expect Rodriguez to keep him around though. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

RyanLeaf#1
12-20-2007, 10:29 PM
I don't blame him. If I was a coach, and I wanted to bring in my own people I would do the same thing.

duckseason
12-20-2007, 10:41 PM
Rich Rodriguez is going to change Michigan... For the worse.

I think it'll be tough for him to do much worse than Lloyd Carr. Winning is the bottom line, and it's tough to picture Rodriguez not building a consistently dominant team in the Big10. Of course they've been dominant in the past, but I see them being much better in the big games that Carr's squads struggled so greatly in. Michigan will always be able to beat the Minnesota's and Northwestern's regardless of HC. I see this as a major upgrade for UM. There are a lot of HS kids out there that love playing in his style of offense, and love playing for a prestigious university such as that of Michigan. Once he gets his pieces in place, watch out Tressel.

P-L
12-20-2007, 10:43 PM
There is a good chance that Rich Rod hires some of these guys back. He said in his press conference that he wasn't going to retain anyone, but he would possibly re-hire some of them.

kwilk103
12-20-2007, 10:43 PM
lol at big games....rod chokes when hes the favorite

see:

pitt 04
bc 04
ul 06
usf 06
usf 07
pitt 07

now, if hes the underdog youre good to go

duckseason
12-20-2007, 10:46 PM
lol at big games....rod chokes when hes the favorite

see:

pitt 04
bc 04
ul 06
usf 06
usf 07
pitt 07

now, if hes the underdog youre good to go
I was more pointing to what Carr has done at Michigan, and what I think Rodriguez will do at Michigan.

P-L
12-20-2007, 10:47 PM
kwilk, Rich Rod can't choke anymore than Lloyd did at Michigan.

kwilk103
12-20-2007, 11:06 PM
idk how much carr choked at um, but being 28 pt favorite with a chance at the NC against your rival is a pretty big choke

soybean
12-20-2007, 11:08 PM
idk how much carr choked at um, but being 28 pt favorite with a chance at the NC against your rival is a pretty big choke

hey hey hey you leave USC out of this.

P-L
12-20-2007, 11:11 PM
idk how much carr choked at um, but being 28 pt favorite with a chance at the NC against your rival is a pretty big choke
1-5 in last six bowls, 1-6 in last seven games vs Ohio State.

reigle9
12-20-2007, 11:13 PM
There is a good chance that Rich Rod hires some of these guys back. He said in his press conference that he wasn't going to retain anyone, but he would possibly re-hire some of them.

I'm having trouble figuring out the reason for that? Is there some logical reason to go about it that way?

504 to ATL
12-20-2007, 11:23 PM
expect a recruiting fall out. Loss of interest in all the big profile names.

P-L
12-20-2007, 11:24 PM
expect a recruiting fall out. Loss of interest in all the big profile names.
We'll lose 1, maybe 2 recruits. Nothing major.

reigle9
12-20-2007, 11:29 PM
1-5 in last six bowls, 1-6 in last seven games vs Ohio State.

ND laughs at your bowl record. I think I was still watching scrambled porn the last time they won a bowl game.

apisallday
12-20-2007, 11:29 PM
How folks can bag on Hot Rod is beyond me. Sounds a little bit more like "Michigan hating" then anything else.

Jeez, given Carr's ineptitude you would think folks would give this guy a shot.

504 to ATL
12-21-2007, 05:02 AM
We'll lose 1, maybe 2 recruits. Nothing major.

I know nothing of the recruits you have, so I will most likely speak in ignorance. By all accounts McGuffie does not seem happy, and Pryor will turn a complete blind eye to Mich. I do not know the situation with Cissoko but some people feel he might abandon ship.

Plus you never know who might transfer, if you believe any of the R Mall to Arky rumors.

duckseason
12-21-2007, 05:17 AM
I know nothing of the recruits you have, so I will most likely speak in ignorance. By all accounts McGuffie does not seem happy, and Pryor will turn a complete blind eye to Mich. I do not know the situation with Cissoko but some people feel he might abandon ship.

Plus you never know who might transfer, if you believe any of the R Mall to Arky rumors.

Why would Pryor turn a blind eye to Michigan? You are aware that he was strongly considering WVU, and loves Rodriguez's offense, right? Seems to me as though Michigan has a better chance than ever at landing Pryor now that they have RR. In fact, Pryor was one of the first people to be notified when Rodriguez jumped the WVU ship. Based on his quotes, it sounds as though he's excited about the prospect of attending Michigan.

But, there is no question that it will take a few years for Rodriguez to cleanse the program of Carr's players, and install his own.

Michigan
12-21-2007, 11:07 AM
I know nothing of the recruits you have, so I will most likely speak in ignorance.

Nailed it right on the head.

Don Vito
12-21-2007, 11:34 AM
We'll lose 1, maybe 2 recruits. Nothing major.

Did Christian Wilson decommit when Rodriguez came?

Shane P. Hallam
12-21-2007, 12:30 PM
Why would Pryor turn a blind eye to Michigan? You are aware that he was strongly considering WVU, and loves Rodriguez's offense, right? Seems to me as though Michigan has a better chance than ever at landing Pryor now that they have RR. In fact, Pryor was one of the first people to be notified when Rodriguez jumped the WVU ship. Based on his quotes, it sounds as though he's excited about the prospect of attending Michigan.

But, there is no question that it will take a few years for Rodriguez to cleanse the program of Carr's players, and install his own.

Comes down to Michigan and OSU once again. Man, if he goes to UM, I will cry...

P-L
12-21-2007, 01:05 PM
Fred Jackson is getting re-hired. It looks like up to two more will be re-hired. This is huge for Michigan. Jackson was one of our best recruiters and he has recruiting ties in the states of Louisiana and Texas. This pretty much assures that McGuffie is coming, in my opinion.

P-L
12-21-2007, 01:10 PM
Did Christian Wilson decommit when Rodriguez came?
Wilson is still committed as of right now. Although, he could possibly look around.

Michigan has only lost one recruit, and that is QB John Wienke. While some Michigan fans were high on him, I don't even really consider it a loss since Steven Threet transfered here last season.

P-L
12-21-2007, 01:19 PM
I know nothing of the recruits you have, so I will most likely speak in ignorance. By all accounts McGuffie does not seem happy, and Pryor will turn a complete blind eye to Mich. I do not know the situation with Cissoko but some people feel he might abandon ship.

Plus you never know who might transfer, if you believe any of the R Mall to Arky rumors.

McGuffie is coming to Ann Arbor. Rich Rod re-hired Fred Jackson, the man who recruited McGuffie, and that will pretty much assure it. I will be absolutely shocked if McGuffie is anywhere else next season. Why would Pryor turn a blind eye to us? Michigan hasn't been in the mix since very early in the process. Now he's excited about us and we're #2 behind Ohio State. Even if he does go to OSU, which I suspect he will, it won't be a huge deal. We never had him in the first place and until last week, we never even thought we had a chance. Pryor choosing to go elsewhere is not a "lost recruit." Cissoko is still up in the air, but I'd bet on him staying at Michigan. All of the Michigan recruiting "insiders" believe he's going to stay with us. He recently canceled visits to Illinois and Tennessee and only has one more scheduled for Penn State.

The only guys I could see possibly leaving are Christian Wilson, Mike Cox, and Boubacar Cissoko and I think we keep BooBoo for sure. Like I said, nothing major.

Michigan
12-21-2007, 01:26 PM
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071221/UPDATE/712210448/1361

At the end of this article it says:

Sources indicated Thursday that defensive line coach Steve Stripling also could be re-hired. Jackson said he was told two other assistants potentially could be re-hired.


I'd guess that the remaining assistants will be any combination of Soup, Stripling, Lefty, or English.

Marino13
12-21-2007, 02:00 PM
I know nothing of the recruits you have, so I will most likely speak in ignorance. By all accounts McGuffie does not seem happy, and Pryor will turn a complete blind eye to Mich. I do not know the situation with Cissoko but some people feel he might abandon ship.

Plus you never know who might transfer, if you believe any of the R Mall to Arky rumors.

as already mentioned, Jackson was rehired so McGuffie is probably staying. but from all I've read is that McGuffie is as true blue as they come. The only way we lose him IMO is if RichRod says he doesn't want him.

I also don't think we lose Cissoko since A)He grew up a michigan fan and B)Illinois was our toughest competitor for him and he cancelled his visit.

CC
12-21-2007, 03:31 PM
idk how much carr choked at um, but being 28 pt favorite with a chance at the NC against your rival is a pretty big choke

If he sucks so much how come every hilljack from WV is cursing his name and essentially throwing a giant temper tantrum?

We're happy with him, WVU will likely revert to being a non-factor on a national stage as far as football goes.

kwilk103
12-21-2007, 03:56 PM
he was mediocre before white arrived

everyones upset about how he handled the whole situation

have fun with 5 plays and the pathetic defense known as the 3-3-5

CC
12-21-2007, 05:54 PM
he was mediocre before white arrived

everyones upset about how he handled the whole situation

have fun with 5 plays and the pathetic defense known as the 3-3-5

He ran the 3-3-5 because he couldn't recruit talent to play any other defense at WVU and has to use it out of necessity.

Michigan on the other hand, can get the players to run any sort of defense it desires. If we do run the 3-3-5, it won't be because we have to.

kwilk103
12-21-2007, 10:36 PM
the 3-3-5 is harder to recruit for----you have to have the athletes to run it

their defenses were better under nehlan and he ran a 4-3; casteel ran a 4-3, but rod made him switch to the 3-3-5

rod has an ego and was being overshadowed by fan favorite huggins

rod ran off one of the best oline coaches in rick trickett; he said he would return to morgantown (his hometown) if rod ever left; he might be coming back (depending on who the new coach is)

lock up your cheerleaders and real estate agents

gsoturf
12-26-2007, 04:13 PM
I have a feeling McGuffie will go to A&M now like most of his teammates, but I could be wrong.

Blatz
01-03-2008, 04:33 PM
I have a feeling McGuffie will go to A&M now like most of his teammates, but I could be wrong.

According to Rivals, McGuffie has given Michigan a solid verbal.

NGSeiler
01-03-2008, 08:26 PM
I wonder if the hiring of Bill Stewart as head coach at WVU means Rich Rod won't get to take as many of his assistants as he'd like to. I believe Coach Stew has said he'd like to keep WVU's staff intact. Could get interesting.

kwilk103
01-03-2008, 09:21 PM
I wonder if the hiring of Bill Stewart as head coach at WVU means Rich Rod won't get to take as many of his assistants as he'd like to. I believe Coach Stew has said he'd like to keep WVU's staff intact. Could get interesting.

he was having them over at his house and was gonna try to convince them to stay

i would love it if magee, casteel, and barwis all stayed

P-L
01-03-2008, 09:22 PM
I wonder if the hiring of Bill Stewart as head coach at WVU means Rich Rod won't get to take as many of his assistants as he'd like to. I believe Coach Stew has said he'd like to keep WVU's staff intact. Could get interesting.
Well, Tony Gibson has already resigned and I've heard from Michigan and West Virginia people that Calvin Magee is probably going to follow Rich Rod. However, it seems like Casteel is having second thoughts about leaving...

kwilk103
01-03-2008, 09:31 PM
gibson is the only one to resign

casteel will prob stay; same with barwis if huggins gets his way

with rich's buyout covering stewarts contract, we're gonna offer magee more money to stay---and be able to call his own plays without being overruled

thats what im hearing

NGSeiler
01-03-2008, 11:24 PM
i would love it if magee, casteel, and barwis all stayed

I think retaining two of the three would be a big deal. All three... amazing, but not probable IMO.

If I were Magee though, I'd want to get out of Rich Rod's shadow and be more than just an OC-by-title. I think he has that chance here on this staff.

My dad knows Barwis and loves the guy, I'd love to see him stay but everything I've heard has been leaning with him leaving. Hopefully that changes.

kwilk103
01-04-2008, 08:12 AM
from todays dominon post (morgantown paper)

“I’d love to stay,” Barwis said. “I think West Virginia is in a great situation as far as where the program is. I love the state, it’s where my wife’s from and I’d love to be there next year. “I think this is the best thing that could have happened to the program. Coach Stew is a man who’s a proven leader, the kids respect him, coaching staff respects him, I’m happy for him and his family.”

NGSeiler
01-04-2008, 12:33 PM
from todays dominon post (morgantown paper)

“I’d love to stay,” Barwis said. “I think West Virginia is in a great situation as far as where the program is. I love the state, it’s where my wife’s from and I’d love to be there next year. “I think this is the best thing that could have happened to the program. Coach Stew is a man who’s a proven leader, the kids respect him, coaching staff respects him, I’m happy for him and his family.”

Four words: SHOW HIM THE MONEY!!! $$$$$$ :D

Edit: Apparently Frey and Smith are leaving, Tall is staying.

NGSeiler
01-04-2008, 03:35 PM
On ESPN Radio right now, Stewart just said that WVU offensive coordinator Calvin Magee is going to go to Michigan.

P-L
01-05-2008, 12:57 PM
According to the Pittsburgh Tribune Review and Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Mike Barwis and three members of his staff have resigned from WVU and are headed to Michigan. Considering this is from Pittsburgh, and not West Virginia, take it fwiw.

kwilk103
01-05-2008, 01:30 PM
barwis hasnt decided yet; meeting with stewart today

P-L
01-06-2008, 08:53 PM
Well, Barwis is officially coming to Michigan. We FINALLY have a strength and conditioning program.

kwilk103
01-06-2008, 09:04 PM
yea, well huggins will find a good one

you took all our offensive coaches, but we can upgrade by getting the app st oline and qb coach; some thoughts on the ones you took

rod smith (qb coach)---was gonna get fired from usf as the oc until rod brought him back; uncle lives in tampa, said no one liked him

magee---good playcaller; too bad rod changes the play 90% of the time

dews (wr)----seeing rods ego for the 1st time; it was only his 1st or 2nd year as a wr coach; rod got rid of one of the best for one of his "boys"

tall (safeties)---still undecided; good recruiter; ok coach

gibson (secondary)----sucks a coach; good recruiter; to quote former wvu cb aaron beasley (3rd round pick by jags; all-american sr year) "Clueless, the guy is just clueless. Our kids have no technique and are in desperate need of being 'coached up' ....".; that was a quote by him this summer

P-L
01-06-2008, 09:08 PM
yea, well huggins will find a good one

you took all our offensive coaches, but we can upgrade by getting the app st oline and qb coach; some thoughts on the ones you took

rod smith (qb coach)---was gonna get fired from usf as the oc until rod brought him back; uncle lives in tampa, said no one liked him

magee---good playcaller; too bad rod changes the play 90% of the time

dews (wr)----seeing rods ego for the 1st time; it was only his 1st or 2nd year as a wr coach; rod got rid of one of the best for one of his "boys"

tall (safeties)---still undecided; good recruiter; ok coach

gibson (secondary)----sucks a coach; good recruiter; to quote former wvu cb aaron beasley (3rd round pick by jags; all-american sr year) "Clueless, the guy is just clueless. Our kids have no technique and are in desperate need of being 'coached up' ....".; that was a quote by him this summer
Other than Barwis, I'm not really too excited about any of the coaches coming over. I really wish we would've kept Lefty instead of getting Smith.

kwilk103
01-06-2008, 09:15 PM
theyre all rods "boys"---if you know what im sayin

but lucky for us we have huggins who will basically pick the next s/c coach

and we're already looking at elliot (oline coach) and satterfield (qb coach) from app st; trickett (our former oline coach and one of the best in the country; left cuz of rod) said elliot is a top 3 oline coach in the country

plus stewarts a likeable guy, so we should get some quality coaches; plus they can come in, run the white/slaton/devine show, then the brown/devine/kerns show and greatly increase their stock as a coach; theyd be on the fast track to becoming hc

P-L
01-07-2008, 09:32 PM
Bruce Tall and Tony Dews are the final coaches from WVU coming over. Michigan is reportedly set to hire Southern Miss Defensive Coordinator Jay Hopson, to take the same position. Also it is rumored that Michigan's former DL Coach Steve Stripling will be re-hired.

kwilk103
01-07-2008, 10:19 PM
should have kept english and soup

DChess
01-08-2008, 06:09 PM
anybody have any idea on who is in line to be coaching at wvu next year (coordinators/assistans ect)

kwilk103
01-08-2008, 06:15 PM
only 2 for sure
casteel---dc
kirlav----dline

lockwood----db (current uk db); been offered
steve dunlap---lb; current marshall dc; former wvu/syracuse dc; been offered
doc holliday---safeties/assoc. hc/recruiting coord; same at uf; former coach at wvu; been offered

speculation on offense

herb hand---current tulsa oc
shawn elliot----app st oline coach; trickett thinks hes a top 3 oline coach
scott satterfield---app st qb/oc

DChess
01-08-2008, 06:19 PM
only 2 for sure
casteel---dc
kirlav----dline

lockwood----db (current uk db); been offered
steve dunlap---lb; current marshall dc; former wvu/syracuse dc; been offered
doc holliday---safeties/assoc. hc/recruiting coord; same at uf; former coach at wvu; been offered

speculation on offense

herb hand---current tulsa oc
shawn elliot----app st oline coach; trickett thinks hes a top 3 oline coach
scott satterfield---app st qb/oc

would you be happy with these. i like herb hand. also i doubt doc leaves the same postition he has at florida for wvu.

kwilk103
01-08-2008, 06:28 PM
yea, especially the app st guys

and the rumor i've read (not confirmed yet) is doc would be getting $400,000; he currently makes $200,000; plus hes a wvu alumni and is from wv

and lockwood and dunlap have been rumored to have accepted, while doc is still thinking about it

i wouldnt accept any announcements until thursday at the earliest since everyone is at the coaches conventions in anaheim

and the offensive coaches will be named later; stewart already said he wanted to finish the defensive staff, then work on the offensive staff since that will take longer (dont have anyway, plus getting quality spread guys)