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energizerbunny
01-05-2008, 03:28 PM
X = Coin Flip
Y = To be determined
*= Underclassmen


1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.

2. St. Louis - 3-13 - Chris Long - DE - Virginia
Considered a very safe pick, along with Adam Carriker will help build up the dline as a area for strength for the Rams. Leonard Little is on the wrong side of 30. Great pick to bring some attitude and toughness to a traditionally “soft” defense.

3. x - Atlanta - 4-12 - Matt Ryan - QB - Boston College
Atlanta has to find some building blocks to build around, from a value standpoint this is a reach. From a need prespective its not, depending on who gets the head coach job this could change.

4. x - Oakland - 4-12 - Glen Dorsey - DT – Louisiana State
Sapp is gone, interior pass rush is needed. One of the worst run D’s in the league… hard to pass on a prospect many consider one of the top DTs to come around in the last 10 years. Especially when you have the 2nd worst run D in the league.

5. x - Kansas City - 4-12 –*Ryan Clady – OT – Boise St.
Kansas City likes there Olineman athletic, Clady is predicted to test well. I think he moves a little bit better than Long. Many think he is a better LT prospect than Jake Long, Chiefs need to address the oline.

6. NY Jets - 4-12 – *Darren McFadden - RB - Arkansas
With a lot of the 34 prospects seeming like reaches at this point, David Harris playing phenomenal football last year and with Thomas Jones having an above average year, and closing in on the feared age of 30 the Jets opt for possibily the best player in the draft, the ultimate gift for QB Kellen Clemens and someone to help keep that Defense off the field.

7. New England (San Fran - 5-11) - *James Laurinaitis - LB – Ohio State
With all their LBs closing in on, or being on the other side of 30 this pick is necessary if they would like to continue to run the 34 defense with efficiency. Laurinaitis would be a prototypical inside backer with the knack for making plays.

8. Baltimore - 5-11 - Mike Jenkins – CB- South Flordia
Chad Johnson, Braylon Edwards and Holmes…. To win the divison the Ravens will need to cover these guys, McAlister is getting up in age and Rolle’s best days are behind him. They seem set at Saftey with Ed Reed and Dawan Landry but its time to address the corner issue and start looking to the future. I don’t think they will draft a QB, but rather give next season to Troy Smith. They could go Jake Long here but being traditionally a defensive first team I think they’ll choose to select the best Corner in the draft and go find a Otackle later in the draft… as this is a very,very deep Tackle draft.

9. Cincinnati - 7-9 – Jake Long – OT - Michigan
Willie Anderson has been the definition of stability for his entire career. However he missed significant time last season and is getting up in age. They need to protect the franchise in Carson Palmer, and help out there run game. At this point its to hard pass on Long who can combine with Levi Jones to have one of the best tackle tandems in the entire league. They feel they can address some of their defensive problems later in the draft, great value in this pick.

10. New Orleans - 7-9 - * Malcolm Jenkins - CB - Ohio St.
Its time to get someone who can play opposite of Mike McKenzie and eventually take over for him. They’ve looked to FA to find someone, but they have failed in doing so. Ohio State has a proven track record of Dbs and Saints cannot pass up possibly the best corner in the draft at this spot.

11. Buffalo - 7-9 –* Kenny Phillips - DB - Miami
You’d like to add a playmaker to your WR corps with this pick, but there truly isn’t a player out there that is good enough to be selected this high. Playing in the AFC East you need to build a team to beat the patriots, Donte Whitner has been great at SS for them… with both top CBs off the board and Jim Leonhard starting at FS the Bills opt for the best safety in the draft, a real playmaker and the next great Cane. Phillips offers the bills great versatility as he can walk out and cover the slot, play deep in the cover 2 or come up and lay lumber in the run game. Safety is no longer a undervalued position.

12. Denver - 7-9 - Sedrick Ellis – DT – Southern Cal
Denver’s run defense was anything but spectacular. Ellis brings a great set of tools to the table, he can either play the 1 or 3 and overall looks to be a great penetrator in the NFL. Arguably the biggest need the Broncos have. They feel they can address Oline,WR, RB and S later in the draft.

13. Carolina - 7-9 – Brian Brohm – QB - Louisville
Carolina is really entering a stage of flux. Its time to get a franchise signal caller and build a team around him. Brohm is a polished field general who will be able to distribute the ball so the panthers playmakers.

14. Chicago - 7-9 – *Rashaad Mendenhall – RB - Illinois
Carolina takes the guy they really want, however with Cedric Benson being a disappointment behind an above average oline they Bears opt for possibly the best all around back in the draft. Mendenhall has a great burst and is very impressive coming out of the backfield. He can be an elite back in the nfl, with him around Benson will be allowed to step back into the backup/platoon role and provide a great 1-2 combo, much like back when Thomas Jones was in Chicago. Mendenhall and Benson’s skills compliment each other very well. Chicago grabs a signal caller later in the draft, as Andre Woodson is to big of a reach at this point…

15. Detroit - 7-9 – Calais Campbell – DE - Miami
Its hard to find a word to describe how bad the Lions defense was last year. Some of that probably has something to do with them always being on the field and Mike Martz not wanting to ever run the ball, but some blame has to be put on the defense itself. Calais was a consensus top underclassmen before the year began, he had a subpar season at Miami but he still is going to be a great pro. With his athletic ability and his ablilty to hold the point in the run game will be prototypical for playing Strong side end in the Cover2. His ability to help out in the run game as well as being a plus pass rusher gives him the nod over some better pass rushers.

16. Arizona - 8-8 - * Derrick Harvey – DE - Florida
34 or 43 Harvey offers some nice versatility for the cardinals, They had a pretty good run Defense last season, but now its team to start putting QBs on their back. Harvey would make a great rush end opposite Smith. Or if the Cardinals want to go the 34 route Harvey could be a great compliment opposite Calvin Pace.

17. Minnesota - 8-8 - Fred Davis – TE – Southern Cal
Sure they could add a pass rusher, but there isn’t a true pass rusher who would be a great pick at this point. Its hard to find De’s at this point who would be much of a upgrade over Ray Edwards, Udeze and Brian Robison. With having AD in town they are going to have the box constantly stacked until Jackson can prove he can move the ball downfield. What better way to stretch the defense then with the best Tight end in the draft? Much like Chad Lewis helped Donovan McNabb’s development in Philly; Davis will do the same for Tarvaris. There isn’t really a WR worth taking in this spot, Desean Jackson would be a viable option but he doesn’t offer the same benefits that Davis offers. Wrs can be found later in the draft. Davis will help move the chains and offer Jackson a security blanket when he is consistently facing 8 and 9 man fronts. Deep threat Wrs can be found later.

18. Houston - 8-8 - * Jonathan Stewart – RB- Oregon
Mass x Velocity = Jonathan Stewart….. although he doesn’t get many opportunities to show it in Oregon’s offence Stewart is a very good downhill runner. Adding a back with this type of talent will make Kubiak’s running game lethal. Deep year for Oline, and its really way to hard to pass this type of talent up at this point.

19. Philadelphia - 8-8 – Keith Rivers – LB – Southern Cal
A talent made for Jim Johnson’s defense, a guy who can step out of the box and run with WRs, bring the heat on the blitz or drop back and play zone. It takes a year or 2 to learn the complicated system Johnson runs so a year being a situational player behind Takeo and Rivers will be set loose. A LB that can play all downs, would be a great weakside and would fit perfectly with Gaither and Chris Gocong.

20. y - Tampa Bay - 9-7 – *Desean Jackson – WR - California
The WCO is dependant on WRs making YAC, Jackson is one of the best at that, he could get overdrafted because of his return ability but don’t get fooled, he is a polished WR as well, and runs some of the best, most consistent routes in the nation. With the success Joey Galloway has had in Tampa its hard to believe Jackson cannot be his successor as they are both very similar players.

21. y - Washington - 9-7 – Lawrence Jackson – DE – Southern Cal
How many years have they been looking for pass rushers? Jackson has been great for USC for it seems forever. Brings some great skills the the table and can be a great Strongside End if Carter is the answer at Weakside.

22. Dallas (Cleve - 10-6) - * Aqib Talib - CB - Kansas
A true playmaker, has special teams potential… good tackler, can be a great nickel back early and then step in for Anthony Henry.

23. y - Seattle - 10-6 - * Felix Jones - RB - Arkansas
Shaun Alexander is over the hill, Maurice Morris will never be more than an average starter in the nfl. Felix Jones offers a unique blend of talents and can really be eased into the starter role much like Alexander was nearly 7 years ago. Felix is a break away threat and can make things happen, its time to address RB for Seattle.

24. y - Pittsburgh - 10-6 - Jeff Otah - OT - Pittsburgh.
If Otah shows well in workouts/Senior bowl he will be long,long gone by this point. A prototypical Steelers lineman, and in typical Steelers fashion build through the trenches.

25. y - Tennessee - 10-6 – Dre Moore - DT - Maryland
If he has the type of Combine many expect this will probally be where his value will be. A big penetrating body, Tennessee has other needs, but its hard to add a WR at this point as they Titans have an abundance of young WR talent on the roster. Its really just a matter of having Vince progressing and working with the WRs he has. With Haynesworth looking to fetch big money on the open market DT becomes a need…. If the Titans keep Haynesworth whats wrong with having 2 massive human beings manning the middle?

26. y - NY Giants - 10-6 - * Reggie Smith - DB - Oklahoma
Versatile, S or CB he is a great talent, could start opposite Aaron Ross at Corner or opposite Gabe Wilson at Saftey. With the giants stable of DE’s its not really necessary to add this type of talent to the secondary but this selection could take an already good pass defense to elite levels.

27. y - San Diego - 11-5 - * Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma
A hard team to mock for because, even though they have sure a talented roster they could go several ways to provide depth… they could add a Otackle to bookend with McNeil and slide Olivea inside to guard, they could opt to provide some extra Dline depth. In this senario I think its hard to not add a talent like Kelly, a big tall,strong body who has great body control. Kelly is a good blocker and would be a good fit for Sand Diego. With Buster Davis, Vincent Jackson and Gates it would provide Rivers will enough talent to atleast move the chains.

28. y - Jacksonville - 11-5 - * Phillip Merling - DE - Clemson
A freak physically, the last 5-7 years the Jags have built a team on these type of raw/physically gifted prospects. DE should be addressed early by Jacksonville, they would build an even more dominant Dline with this monster coming off the edge.

29. y - Green Bay - 13-3 - * Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona
Al Harris and Charles Woodson, although one of the best tandems in the league are not getting any younger. Its time to get some young talent in there so they can begin grooming for the future, Cason can contribute early.

30 y - Dallas - 13-3 - * Duke Robinson - OG – Oklahoma
Add to an area of strength, With Duke, Gurode and Big Leonard Davis who would want to play this team and dual with them in the trenches? Kyle Kosier is adequate to good but the Duke can be an elite Guard. Romo just signed a massive contract and they need to protect him, although the biggest dividends with this selection would be paid in the run game. You could add a tackle if you wanted to strengthen the oline here, but I don’t think your going to get as big of impact with any of the remaining tackles as you will with this big,mauling man from Oklahoma.

31. y - San Fran (Indianapolis - 13-3) – Shawn Crable - LB - Michigan
Alex Smith looks horrible, but Mike Nolan will not draft another QB in the first round…. The only way this is a QB is if Nolan is fired. That said this pick will probally be another pick to bolster the defense, Crable would be a good fit in the 34 but he may be a little to similar to Manny Lawson. Ideally you would like to add a Dlineman as having a average at best Dline is what Is keeping this Defense from being good. I think at this point its too hard to pass up adding another Outside pass rush threat, and they hope they can address the Dline later on.
32. y - New England - 16-0 (forfeited pick)

iloxygenil
01-05-2008, 03:50 PM
Poor Falcons pick

SuperMcGee
01-05-2008, 03:56 PM
Ko Simpson starts when he doesn't break his ankle, so I'd like the Bills to go elsewhere with the pick. Not exactly a proven player but enough to ward off picking a safety amidst other pressing needs. Keith Rivers or maybe even Sed Ellis would be better if you don't like the WR talent

jdb1972
01-05-2008, 04:03 PM
13. Carolina - 7-9 – Brian Brohm – QB - Louisville
Carolina is really entering a stage of flux. Its time to get a franchise signal caller and build a team around him.
Or they could stick with the Pro Bowl QB they have returning from injury and the promising rookie who looked good in three starts. Especially since 2008 is "win or collect unemployment" time for both the coach and GM.

scottyboy
01-05-2008, 04:03 PM
good giants pick, along with explanation. nice work

RaiderNation
01-05-2008, 04:17 PM
great raider pick

Bills2083
01-05-2008, 04:20 PM
Leonhard is the 3rd string FS.
Ko Simpson is our starter.

We should go with Keith Rivers/Sedrick Ellis there.

Jakey
01-05-2008, 04:32 PM
Good Steelers pick (obviously) :)

Yung Flippa
01-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Mike Jenkins is a good pick for the Ravens, would rather have Malcolm, but it's okay, either one will do well. Good Texans pick as well.

T-RICH49
01-05-2008, 04:38 PM
NO CHANCE KC passes on Long!!!!!!!

thebow305
01-05-2008, 04:45 PM
Love It!!!!

energizerbunny
01-05-2008, 05:37 PM
obviously, I'm just throwing a senario out there...

I don't think its that extreme to see Clady go ahead of Long.... I think when its all said and done after the combine and workouts the consensus will be on Clady that he has the higher ceiling then Long. Obviously it looks kind of foolish right now but alot crazier things have happened. I've been very impressed with that footage i've watched of Clady though and its entirely possible he ends up being taken higher.



As far as Brohm goes, who says the franchise won't look to find Delhomme's replacement? IMO this franchise is closer to being a team picking in the top 10 then they are a playoff team.


As for Kenny Phillips, imo throwing the entire BPA out on this pick... he is a steal at this point, although I wouldn't be surprised to see him dip further.
The Cover2 is dependant on a great pass rush and saftey's that can cover deep... I'm not completely sold on Ko Simpson, i'm not sure he can be that guy and Sedrick Ellis is a very similar prospect to John McCargo. Somehow if you want to win in that divison you need to disrupt that Patriots offence.

However Keith Rivers would be a great fit in that system.

Lionsfan93
01-05-2008, 05:40 PM
for the Lions here's my list

1. Antoine Cason
2. Aqib Talib
3. Calais Campbell

TACKLE
01-05-2008, 05:41 PM
Solid Mock. Clady over Long is an interesting pick though I'm not sure it would happen. You said in your explanation that the Cheifs like athletic lineman but I think they lean more towards big strong lineman. When there OLine was dominant they had Roaf, Shields, and Waters. All big physical guys who excell at run blocking. Hey but who knows. Clady's upside may give him the edge. All in all I like this mock.

Babylon
01-05-2008, 05:43 PM
Not sure how Keith Rivers continues to carry a 1st round grade, he isnt the biggest linebacker in the world, is pretty much an olb only and didnt have a good year. Trojan logic i guess.

Finsfan79
01-05-2008, 05:44 PM
1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.

i would say the most important part of the 3-4 is a NT honestly. Gholston is nice but I dont see him yet as the "elite" OLB type that we had a few years ago in the draft like mario to be taken number 1, if miami drops down a few picks then sure

energizerbunny
01-05-2008, 05:54 PM
1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.

i would say the most important part of the 3-4 is a NT honestly. Gholston is nice but I dont see him yet as the "elite" OLB type that we had a few years ago in the draft like mario to be taken number 1, if miami drops down a few picks then sure

Im not sure Glen Dorsey can be a nose tackle to tell you the truth... its a huge waste of money from what i've seen, I don't think he truely has that nose tackle mentality and will kind of be like forcing a square peg into a round hole.... something you obviously don't want to do when your talking about 60 million dollars. Just look at the Jets with Dewayne Robertson, he could be an elite DT in a 43 but they are just wasting him in that 34, along with him making 10 million dollars a year eating up blocks.... not exactly a great situation


Glen Dorsey is far to much of a penetrator, he wants to hit you and get in the backfield and make plays..... thing is, if you do that in a 34 your going to get run all over and your ILBs are going to hate you!


to be a successful Nosetackle you need to have the mentality that you will take as many guys with you as possible and not get pushed back, not even an inch!

Babylon
01-05-2008, 05:55 PM
1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.

i would say the most important part of the 3-4 is a NT honestly. Gholston is nice but I dont see him yet as the "elite" OLB type that we had a few years ago in the draft like mario to be taken number 1, if miami drops down a few picks then sure


Curious to see which Gholston shows up against LSU, the one that played against Michigan or the one that was sort of silent against Illinois.

Caddy
01-05-2008, 05:55 PM
Perfect Buccaneer pick.

energizerbunny
01-05-2008, 05:58 PM
Solid Mock. Clady over Long is an interesting pick though I'm not sure it would happen. You said in your explanation that the Cheifs like athletic lineman but I think they lean more towards big strong lineman. When there OLine was dominant they had Roaf, Shields, and Waters. All big physical guys who excell at run blocking. Hey but who knows. Clady's upside may give him the edge. All in all I like this mock.



Waters is one of he most athletic Guards around, maybe not so much now but he is no slouch, He was even a TE at north texas... Will Shields was also very athletic for his size and had great feet.
Willie Roaf was not your traditional mauler, he had great feet and could seal block with the best of them, you don't play LT in the NFL for 10+ years being a bad athlete.

Casey Wiegmann is a tremendous athlete as well.


Whenever I watched this oline back when they were the best in the league they consistently were making blocks downfield and getting out in front of backs, constantly pulling, trapping and going downfield.

neko4
01-05-2008, 08:39 PM
Nice Packers pick

Good overall effort

Twinblade
01-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Bad falcons pick

WMD
01-05-2008, 09:27 PM
Calais Campbell! I'd like it.

bolts2388
01-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Do people always forget that we have Chris Chambers... We don't need no WR or RB. Our needs are Secondary,Oline,Dline,LB depth maybe.

MasterShake
01-05-2008, 10:15 PM
Predicting the Colts-Patriots Superbowl....

It's a bold move...lets see if it pays off....

aNYtitan
01-05-2008, 10:53 PM
25. y - Tennessee - 10-6 – Dre Moore - DT - Maryland
If the Titans keep Haynesworth whats wrong with having 2 massive human beings manning the middle?

Whats wrong is that we still don't have a #1 receiving option for Vince Young, and there is a perfect one that still hasn't been drafted in Malcolm Kelly. It would be alright in round 2 or round 3 to get a DT, but if their is someone such as DeSean Jackson or Malcolm Kelly available in the first, there shouldn't even be a decision

etk
01-05-2008, 11:24 PM
20. y - Tampa Bay - 9-7 – *Desean Jackson – WR - California
The WCO is dependant on WRs making YAC, Jackson is one of the best at that, he could get overdrafted because of his return ability but don’t get fooled, he is a polished WR as well, and runs some of the best, most consistent routes in the nation. With the success Joey Galloway has had in Tampa its hard to believe Jackson cannot be his successor as they are both very similar players.


I like the pick, but I like the analysis even better. Very well done.

jdb1972
01-05-2008, 11:27 PM
As far as Brohm goes, who says the franchise won't look to find Delhomme's replacement?
They may already have. His name is Matt Moore. Just was named offensive rookie of the month for December. The organization likes him a lot.

As I said, Fox and Hurney have to put together a winning year next year to keep their jobs. There are simply much bigger holes to fill (both OTs, improving a pass rush, getting a second RB to go with Williams) and they don't have the 3-4 years to wait for a rookie QB to maybe develop. Especially when they have a rookie QB who posted a 85+ PR in three starts against playoff teams. And, given that the Panthers are near the top in cap space committed for '08 and near the bottom in players under contract for '08, there is only so much $$$ to fill these holes without creating larger ones.

Fox and Hurney are very predictable in their draft tendencies. It's always the position that makes the most sense, and players that fit the system Fox and friends run. If they already have one or more players to fill a spot, they won't go there first day.

Right now, I'd be looking at LTs who will excel in zone blocking (assuming they really want to go with that experiment, which they mostly abandoned early in the season).

BaLLiN
01-05-2008, 11:30 PM
Good giants pick

Gay Ork Wang
01-05-2008, 11:30 PM
No way the Bears gonna pick Mendenhall, i dont care how he fits, with no Oline and no Qb, id put RB at 3 or 4 of our needs

DaBear89
01-06-2008, 12:15 AM
14. Chicago - 7-9 – *Rashaad Mendenhall – RB - Illinois
Carolina takes the guy they really want, however with Cedric Benson being a disappointment behind an above average oline they Bears opt for possibly the best all around back in the draft. Mendenhall has a great burst and is very impressive coming out of the backfield. He can be an elite back in the nfl, with him around Benson will be allowed to step back into the backup/platoon role and provide a great 1-2 combo, much like back when Thomas Jones was in Chicago. Mendenhall and Benson’s skills compliment each other very well. Chicago grabs a signal caller later in the draft, as Andre Woodson is to big of a reach at this point…

lol, i think i peed a little when i read the bold/italics. u dont have an above average OL when your fans are screaming for almost half the line to be replaced

Allpro44athlete
01-06-2008, 12:22 AM
X = Coin Flip
Y = To be determined
*= Underclassmen


1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.
2. St. Louis - 3-13 - Chris Long - DE - Virginia
Considered a very safe pick, along with Adam Carriker will help build up the dline as a area for strength for the Rams. Leonard Little is on the wrong side of 30. Great pick to bring some attitude and toughness to a traditionally “soft” defense.
3. x - Atlanta - 4-12 - Matt Ryan - QB - Boston College
Atlanta has to find some building blocks to build around, from a value standpoint this is a reach. From a need prespective its not, depending on who gets the head coach job this could change.
4. x - Oakland - 4-12 - Glen Dorsey - DT – Louisiana State
Sapp is gone, interior pass rush is needed. One of the worst run D’s in the league… hard to pass on a prospect many consider one of the top DTs to come around in the last 10 years. Especially when you have the 2nd worst run D in the league.
5. x - Kansas City - 4-12 –*Ryan Clady – OT – Boise St.
Kansas City likes there Olineman athletic, Clady is predicted to test well. I think he moves a little bit better than Long. Many think he is a better LT prospect than Jake Long, Chiefs need to address the oline.
6. NY Jets - 4-12 – *Darren McFadden - RB - Arkansas
With a lot of the 34 prospects seeming like reaches at this point, David Harris playing phenomenal football last year and with Thomas Jones having an above average year, and closing in on the feared age of 30 the Jets opt for possibily the best player in the draft, the ultimate gift for QB Kellen Clemens and someone to help keep that Defense off the field.
7. New England (San Fran - 5-11) - *James Laurinaitis - LB – Ohio State
With all their LBs closing in on, or being on the other side of 30 this pick is necessary if they would like to continue to run the 34 defense with efficiency. Laurinaitis would be a prototypical inside backer with the knack for making plays.
8. Baltimore - 5-11 - Mike Jenkins – CB- South Flordia
Chad Johnson, Braylon Edwards and Holmes…. To win the divison the Ravens will need to cover these guys, McAlister is getting up in age and Rolle’s best days are behind him. They seem set at Saftey with Ed Reed and Dawan Landry but its time to address the corner issue and start looking to the future. I don’t think they will draft a QB, but rather give next season to Troy Smith. They could go Jake Long here but being traditionally a defensive first team I think they’ll choose to select the best Corner in the draft and go find a Otackle later in the draft… as this is a very,very deep Tackle draft.
9. Cincinnati - 7-9 – Jake Long – OT - Michigan
Willie Anderson has been the definition of stability for his entire career. However he missed significant time last season and is getting up in age. They need to protect the franchise in Carson Palmer, and help out there run game. At this point its to hard pass on Long who can combine with Levi Jones to have one of the best tackle tandems in the entire league. They feel they can address some of their defensive problems later in the draft, great value in this pick.
10. New Orleans - 7-9 - * Malcolm Jenkins - CB - Ohio St.
Its time to get someone who can play opposite of Mike McKenzie and eventually take over for him. They’ve looked to FA to find someone, but they have failed in doing so. Ohio State has a proven track record of Dbs and Saints cannot pass up possibly the best corner in the draft at this spot.
11. Buffalo - 7-9 –* Kenny Phillips - DB - Miami
You’d like to add a playmaker to your WR corps with this pick, but there truly isn’t a player out there that is good enough to be selected this high. Playing in the AFC East you need to build a team to beat the patriots, Donte Whitner has been great at SS for them… with both top CBs off the board and Jim Leonhard starting at FS the Bills opt for the best safety in the draft, a real playmaker and the next great Cane. Phillips offers the bills great versatility as he can walk out and cover the slot, play deep in the cover 2 or come up and lay lumber in the run game. Safety is no longer a undervalued position.
12. Denver - 7-9 - Sedrick Ellis – DT – Southern Cal
Denver’s run defense was anything but spectacular. Ellis brings a great set of tools to the table, he can either play the 1 or 3 and overall looks to be a great penetrator in the NFL. Arguably the biggest need the Broncos have. They feel they can address Oline,WR, RB and S later in the draft.
13. Carolina - 7-9 – Brian Brohm – QB - Louisville
Carolina is really entering a stage of flux. Its time to get a franchise signal caller and build a team around him. Brohm is a polished field general who will be able to distribute the ball so the panthers playmakers.
14. Chicago - 7-9 – *Rashaad Mendenhall – RB - Illinois
Carolina takes the guy they really want, however with Cedric Benson being a disappointment behind an above average oline they Bears opt for possibly the best all around back in the draft. Mendenhall has a great burst and is very impressive coming out of the backfield. He can be an elite back in the nfl, with him around Benson will be allowed to step back into the backup/platoon role and provide a great 1-2 combo, much like back when Thomas Jones was in Chicago. Mendenhall and Benson’s skills compliment each other very well. Chicago grabs a signal caller later in the draft, as Andre Woodson is to big of a reach at this point…
15. Detroit - 7-9 – Calais Campbell – DE - Miami
Its hard to find a word to describe how bad the Lions defense was last year. Some of that probably has something to do with them always being on the field and Mike Martz not wanting to ever run the ball, but some blame has to be put on the defense itself. Calais was a consensus top underclassmen before the year began, he had a subpar season at Miami but he still is going to be a great pro. With his athletic ability and his ablilty to hold the point in the run game will be prototypical for playing Strong side end in the Cover2. His ability to help out in the run game as well as being a plus pass rusher gives him the nod over some better pass rushers.
16. Arizona - 8-8 - * Derrick Harvey – DE - Florida
34 or 43 Harvey offers some nice versatility for the cardinals, They had a pretty good run Defense last season, but now its team to start putting QBs on their back. Harvey would make a great rush end opposite Smith. Or if the Cardinals want to go the 34 route Harvey could be a great compliment opposite Calvin Pace.
17. Minnesota - 8-8 - Fred Davis – TE – Southern Cal
Sure they could add a pass rusher, but there isn’t a true pass rusher who would be a great pick at this point. Its hard to find De’s at this point who would be much of a upgrade over Ray Edwards, Udeze and Brian Robison. With having AD in town they are going to have the box constantly stacked until Jackson can prove he can move the ball downfield. What better way to stretch the defense then with the best Tight end in the draft? Much like Chad Lewis helped Donovan McNabb’s development in Philly; Davis will do the same for Tarvaris. There isn’t really a WR worth taking in this spot, Desean Jackson would be a viable option but he doesn’t offer the same benefits that Davis offers. Wrs can be found later in the draft. Davis will help move the chains and offer Jackson a security blanket when he is consistently facing 8 and 9 man fronts. Deep threat Wrs can be found later.
18. Houston - 8-8 - * Jonathan Stewart – RB- Oregon
Mass x Velocity = Jonathan Stewart….. although he doesn’t get many opportunities to show it in Oregon’s offence Stewart is a very good downhill runner. Adding a back with this type of talent will make Kubiak’s running game lethal. Deep year for Oline, and its really way to hard to pass this type of talent up at this point.
19. Philadelphia - 8-8 – Keith Rivers – LB – Southern Cal
A talent made for Jim Johnson’s defense, a guy who can step out of the box and run with WRs, bring the heat on the blitz or drop back and play zone. It takes a year or 2 to learn the complicated system Johnson runs so a year being a situational player behind Takeo and Rivers will be set loose. A LB that can play all downs, would be a great weakside and would fit perfectly with Gaither and Chris Gocong.
20. y - Tampa Bay - 9-7 – *Desean Jackson – WR - California
The WCO is dependant on WRs making YAC, Jackson is one of the best at that, he could get overdrafted because of his return ability but don’t get fooled, he is a polished WR as well, and runs some of the best, most consistent routes in the nation. With the success Joey Galloway has had in Tampa its hard to believe Jackson cannot be his successor as they are both very similar players.
21. y - Washington - 9-7 – Lawrence Jackson – DE – Southern Cal
How many years have they been looking for pass rushers? Jackson has been great for USC for it seems forever. Brings some great skills the the table and can be a great Strongside End if Carter is the answer at Weakside.
22. Dallas (Cleve - 10-6) - * Aqib Talib - CB - Kansas
A true playmaker, has special teams potential… good tackler, can be a great nickel back early and then step in for Anthony Henry.
23. y - Seattle - 10-6 - * Felix Jones - RB - Arkansas
Shaun Alexander is over the hill, Maurice Morris will never be more than an average starter in the nfl. Felix Jones offers a unique blend of talents and can really be eased into the starter role much like Alexander was nearly 7 years ago. Felix is a break away threat and can make things happen, its time to address RB for Seattle.
24. y - Pittsburgh - 10-6 - Jeff Otah - OT - Pittsburgh.
If Otah shows well in workouts/Senior bowl he will be long,long gone by this point. A prototypical Steelers lineman, and in typical Steelers fashion build through the trenches.
25. y - Tennessee - 10-6 – Dre Moore - DT - Maryland
If he has the type of Combine many expect this will probally be where his value will be. A big penetrating body, Tennessee has other needs, but its hard to add a WR at this point as they Titans have an abundance of young WR talent on the roster. Its really just a matter of having Vince progressing and working with the WRs he has. With Haynesworth looking to fetch big money on the open market DT becomes a need…. If the Titans keep Haynesworth whats wrong with having 2 massive human beings manning the middle?
26. y - NY Giants - 10-6 - * Reggie Smith - DB - Oklahoma
Versatile, S or CB he is a great talent, could start opposite Aaron Ross at Corner or opposite Gabe Wilson at Saftey. With the giants stable of DE’s its not really necessary to add this type of talent to the secondary but this selection could take an already good pass defense to elite levels.
27. y - San Diego - 11-5 - * Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma
A hard team to mock for because, even though they have sure a talented roster they could go several ways to provide depth… they could add a Otackle to bookend with McNeil and slide Olivea inside to guard, they could opt to provide some extra Dline depth. In this senario I think its hard to not add a talent like Kelly, a big tall,strong body who has great body control. Kelly is a good blocker and would be a good fit for Sand Diego. With Buster Davis, Vincent Jackson and Gates it would provide Rivers will enough talent to atleast move the chains.
28. y - Jacksonville - 11-5 - * Phillip Merling - DE - Clemson
A freak physically, the last 5-7 years the Jags have built a team on these type of raw/physically gifted prospects. DE should be addressed early by Jacksonville, they would build an even more dominant Dline with this monster coming off the edge.
29. y - Green Bay - 13-3 - * Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona
Al Harris and Charles Woodson, although one of the best tandems in the league are not getting any younger. Its time to get some young talent in there so they can begin grooming for the future, Cason can contribute early.
30 y - Dallas - 13-3 - * Duke Robinson - OG – Oklahoma
Add to an area of strength, With Duke, Gurode and Big Leonard Davis who would want to play this team and dual with them in the trenches? Kyle Kosier is adequate to good but the Duke can be an elite Guard. Romo just signed a massive contract and they need to protect him, although the biggest dividends with this selection would be paid in the run game. You could add a tackle if you wanted to strengthen the oline here, but I don’t think your going to get as big of impact with any of the remaining tackles as you will with this big,mauling man from Oklahoma.
31. y - San Fran (Indianapolis - 13-3) – Shawn Crable - LB - Michigan
Alex Smith looks horrible, but Mike Nolan will not draft another QB in the first round…. The only way this is a QB is if Nolan is fired. That said this pick will probally be another pick to bolster the defense, Crable would be a good fit in the 34 but he may be a little to similar to Manny Lawson. Ideally you would like to add a Dlineman as having a average at best Dline is what Is keeping this Defense from being good. I think at this point its too hard to pass up adding another Outside pass rush threat, and they hope they can address the Dline later on.
32. y - New England - 16-0 (forfeited pick)



I agree with Dallas first pick at 22, but i dont see them going OLine with their second first round pick. I see them going WR In Early Doucet from L.S.U.

Crickett
01-06-2008, 12:29 AM
1st Round
1. Miami - 1-15 – * Vernon Gholston - Rush – Ohio State
Parcell’s traditionally runs a 34 defence, the most important piece of that defense Is OLBs. If he chooses coaches that want to run a 43 Gholston can be a all-pro there as well. A Physical freak, has shown potential to take over games. Hard to find weaknesses with Vernon Gholston.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Parcells is the VP of football operations. Not the coach.

3. x - Atlanta - 4-12 - Matt Ryan - QB - Boston College
Atlanta has to find some building blocks to build around, from a value standpoint this is a reach. From a need prespective its not, depending on who gets the head coach job this could change.

A couple of people have criticized this selection. And you know what? It is a bad pick. It's also a plausible pick. Remember, teams do reach. More than they should.


6. NY Jets - 4-12 – *Darren McFadden - RB - Arkansas
With a lot of the 34 prospects seeming like reaches at this point, David Harris playing phenomenal football last year and with Thomas Jones having an above average year, and closing in on the feared age of 30 the Jets opt for possibily the best player in the draft, the ultimate gift for QB Kellen Clemens and someone to help keep that Defense off the field.

I would think the ultimate gift for QB Kellen Clemons would be an upgraded offensive line so he isn't running for his life. #6 is a bit of a reach for a right tackle, but it is a huge need. Especially when the Jets current right tackle is getting out rushed and over powered by defensive ends 50 lbs smaller than him.


17. Minnesota - 8-8 - Fred Davis – TE – Southern Cal
Sure they could add a pass rusher, but there isn’t a true pass rusher who would be a great pick at this point.

You have one going four picks later.

21. y - Washington - 9-7 – Lawrence Jackson – DE – Southern Cal

See?

johbur
01-06-2008, 12:56 AM
Predicting the Colts-Patriots Superbowl....

It's a bold move...lets see if it pays off....

Funny, but cruel...

I like GB taking Cason in R1, so that's a nice selection.

DiG
01-06-2008, 01:09 AM
if otah is available then hes the better value for the skins.

energizerbunny
01-06-2008, 02:56 AM
Predicting the Colts-Patriots Superbowl....

It's a bold move...lets see if it pays off....

I just put the Patriots last, and the Colts 2nd last because I felt like it....

At this point what does that final order really mean? the wildcard games aren't even complete yet.

Stop knit-picking, this is a early mock.

energizerbunny
01-06-2008, 03:02 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Parcells is the VP of football operations. Not the coach.



A couple of people have criticized this selection. And you know what? It is a bad pick. It's also a plausible pick. Remember, teams do reach. More than they should.




I would think the ultimate gift for QB Kellen Clemons would be an upgraded offensive line so he isn't running for his life. #6 is a bit of a reach for a right tackle, but it is a huge need. Especially when the Jets current right tackle is getting out rushed and over powered by defensive ends 50 lbs smaller than him.




You have one going four picks later.



See?



I stated that Gholston is a great selection for whatever system Parcells' coach decides with, Gholston is going to be an elite edge rusher.


Why would the Vikings take Lawrence Jackson? they have the #1 Run defense in the league, and on top of that they have 2 guys in Edwards and Udeze who are almost exactly like him.... no one has invested as many high picks in DEs an not seen much of a return on their investment then the vikings.

Why would they take another DE? TE is a possibily, especially considering how crucial Chad Lewis and LJ Smith were in Philly under Brad Childress.


Yes, your right.... teams do reach, and they also go BPA... its the reality of the NFL and it will never change.


You want the Jets to pass on Run DMC so they can take a RT in the first round when they can add a great tackle in the 2nd round in one of the deepest tackle drafts in quite some time? that seems quite foolish

energizerbunny
01-06-2008, 03:12 AM
25. y - Tennessee - 10-6 – Dre Moore - DT - Maryland
If the Titans keep Haynesworth whats wrong with having 2 massive human beings manning the middle?

Whats wrong is that we still don't have a #1 receiving option for Vince Young, and there is a perfect one that still hasn't been drafted in Malcolm Kelly. It would be alright in round 2 or round 3 to get a DT, but if their is someone such as DeSean Jackson or Malcolm Kelly available in the first, there shouldn't even be a decision


Like last year when they opted to pass on Dwayne Bowe?


I'm not convinced the titans will invest a first round pick on a WR... I think Tennessee thinks they can surround Vince with talented mid-round picks and make it work. Its very similar to their approach with Steve McNair, the last time the Titans selected a WR in the first round was 10 years ago...

JagHombre22
01-06-2008, 10:07 AM
don't like the Jags pick...he's not as "gifted" as many people think...

TitanHope
01-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Like last year when they opted to pass on Dwayne Bowe?


I'm not convinced the titans will invest a first round pick on a WR... I think Tennessee thinks they can surround Vince with talented mid-round picks and make it work. Its very similar to their approach with Steve McNair, the last time the Titans selected a WR in the first round was 10 years ago...

Bowe wasn't rated as highly as Griffin on the Titans Board. At that time, DB was a bigger need for them due to the questions at FS and CB, and the young WR's on roster possibly developing. But, that was last season.

You're right that we rarely pick WR's in the 1st RD, but Kelly is probably the 2nd best WR in the Draft. I love Dre Moore, so the pick is good with me and he fits our defense. But, Kelly is a bigger need and a better value. It may seem unlikely, but you can't deny that it wouldn't be a good pick.

And now, I'm not too certain that we'd pass on a top WR if he were available. Maybe even Martellus Bennett, as TE is a big need also.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-06-2008, 12:02 PM
Matt Ryan over Darren McFadden?

:(

Young Legend
01-06-2008, 01:15 PM
good raider pick..Dorsey is the only player i would take over McFadden

Crickett
01-06-2008, 02:08 PM
Why would the Vikings take Lawrence Jackson? they have the #1 Run defense in the league, and on top of that they have 2 guys in Edwards and Udeze who are almost exactly like him.... no one has invested as many high picks in DEs an not seen much of a return on their investment then the vikings.

Hey, you're the one who said they could take a pass rusher.


You want the Jets to pass on Run DMC so they can take a RT in the first round when they can add a great tackle in the 2nd round in one of the deepest tackle drafts in quite some time? that seems quite foolish

In short..... yes.

1. Sure, they can get a quality RT in the second round, but they could add a pass rusher or defensive lineman too. Both of which are huge needs for the Jets.
2. Is there any position in the NFL more dime a dozen in the NFL than running back?
3. Unless the Jets make significant upgrades to their offensive line (specifically LG and RT), I have no reason to believe that Darren McFadden will do any better for the Jets than Thomas Jones and Leon Washington have.

CincinnatiBengals15
01-06-2008, 02:21 PM
Noway we take offense in the first round too many needs on defense.

energizerbunny
01-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Hey, you're the one who said they could take a pass rusher.





key word there was "pure pass rusher"..... Lawrence Jackson is far from a pure pass rusher....

go_ravens94
01-06-2008, 06:17 PM
OK Ravens pick, but if Jake Long's there....

energizerbunny
01-09-2008, 12:37 AM
OK Ravens pick, but if Jake Long's there....

With Gaither as a project i'm not sure its the biggest need you have.... especially considering the tackle depth later on.

Vikes99ej
01-09-2008, 01:00 AM
Wow, a different Vikings pick, but I really like it. Definitely an upgrade over **** hands Shiancoe.

BlindSite
01-09-2008, 01:56 AM
Panthers need play makers, not a manager. We've got 2.

BaLLiN
01-09-2008, 09:26 AM
good giants pick

Don Killuminati
01-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Oakland's defense is bad. Ya didn't have to harp on them that much though.

energizerbunny
01-09-2008, 05:39 PM
Panthers need play makers, not a manager. We've got 2.

I've actually had a change of thought on this situation as of late, Fox needs to win early.... this team might have 1 maybe 2 more runs at the playoffs in such a weak divison but then they are truely going to need to start over. Delhomme is comming back and Moore didn't play too horrible..... they are alot further away then a future QB and need to rather rebuild their Dline or perhaps add a linebacker.... If Fox retains his job I don't think QB is even a possibility, because that is basically tells the franchise its time to start over, they could still probally muster out a 10-6 or 9-7 next season if EVERYTHING falls into place for them and they get some breaks.



I think a development prospect such as a Ainge,Henne,Flacco or Brennan later in the draft is a much better option for them at this point.



In short they need to get some more pieces in place before they draft a QB and throw him into this situation.

energizerbunny
01-09-2008, 05:42 PM
Oakland's defense is bad. Ya didn't have to harp on them that much though.



lets be honest here and call a spade a spade, You have some good talent in your secondary that you can build on but they are seriously lacking in talent in the front 4. Howard and Morrison are both going to be good players but they need some help up front.


This is also the 2nd year they have had a poor run D...... you cannot with in the AFC WEST unless you have a above average+ run D, that is probally the hardest divison to defend the run with some of the best runningames in the league

Ewing
01-10-2008, 01:55 AM
I'd stop watching football if the Titans picked Dre Moore with Malcolm Kelly still on the board.

Ewing
01-10-2008, 01:57 AM
Like last year when they opted to pass on Dwayne Bowe?


I'm not convinced the titans will invest a first round pick on a WR... I think Tennessee thinks they can surround Vince with talented mid-round picks and make it work. Its very similar to their approach with Steve McNair, the last time the Titans selected a WR in the first round was 10 years ago...

Huge difference. We needed a free safety; Thompson was the worst in the league.