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GB12
01-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Holmgren returns to Green Bay, Thompson faces the team he helped build, Koren Robinson against the team that drafted him, Matt Hasselbeck faces his mentor, We want the ball and we're going to score, etc.

Get ready to hear a lot of that this week. There are many ties between these teams so it's always fun to play each other.

The Legend
01-06-2008, 10:05 PM
Holmgren returns to Green Bay, Thompson faces the team he helped build, Koren Robinson against the team that drafted him, Matt Hasselbeck faces his mentor, We want the ball and we're going to score, etc.

Get ready to hear a lot of that this week. There are many ties between these teams so it's always fun to play each other.


this game is going to be really good i guess 27-14 packers win thats if he stop Hasselback

Football Fan
01-06-2008, 10:48 PM
Green Bay favored by 8 vs. seattle with 40.5 as the over/under.
NE favored by 11.5 vs. jack 48 over/under
Indi favored by 8 over SD 47 over/under
dallas by 7.5 over giants 47 over/under

Favre4ever
01-07-2008, 08:07 AM
If we score first and and make them one dimensional we win this game.

drowe
01-07-2008, 09:44 AM
for me, this game is all about the packer's offensive line. as ya saw in the wild card round, seattle gets some funny looking pass rushes. if the packers can establish a run and give favre time, the packers should win...but if the 'hawks are in the backfield all day, it's gonna be trouble.

Sportsfan486
01-07-2008, 10:07 AM
I expect Seattle to come out and try to spread the D with 3 and 4 receiver sets while running the ball. If we can blow that up, I think they'll fall back completely on the passing game and become one dimensional. The main issue there is hoping our reserve corners and our safeties can handle the extra receivers, Burleson and Engram, who are above average #3 and #4 targets.

They shouldn't have a running game against us, even if we only utilize 6-7 man fronts a lot of the game.

Defensively they've relied on the pass rush all year to succeed and Favre has always been incredible against the blitz, both in avoiding it and getting the ball out so quickly they never have a shot. The rest of their defense can be exploited and I believe we will hone in on that. I see Grant bashing them and Favre going over top a couple times. They like to go after the ball, though, so Favre needs to have a smart game and work into the deep routes instead of forcing them.

Bottom line, I actually think we'll come out blasting in this one. I'm going with 38-13.

NickCollins36
01-07-2008, 01:29 PM
my boy nick collins gonna do work son!
hopefully bigby decides not to suck this saturday
or we can just start rouse :)

Favre4ever
01-07-2008, 02:09 PM
my boy nick collins gonna do work son!
hopefully bigby decides not to suck this saturday
or we can just start rouse :)

That would be the best case scenario for me. Rouse and Collins were togheter for a few series against Detroit also but with Bigby winning D player of the month i dont see management sitting him even if i think the award doesnt tell the whole story.

RockJock07
01-07-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah, Shawn Alexander hasn't been himself this year, i think he was hurt for a bit and generally looks like he's aged alot since 2005 when he was the MVP. I also agree that if the packers get a lead, say by 10-14 points, game over, grant will pound it for the rest of the game and we move on to dallas.

the Packers need to do two main things to win this game. 1) pressure Hassellbeck, he looked shaky in their playoff game and without a run game he's gonna have to step up and make plays with a average WR corp. 2) establish the line on offense, that SEA pass rush is brutal, But Brett and the O have made a living on short/medium (Slants/bubble screens) passes all season. I believe that the seahawk pass rush plays to the strengh of what we can do.

I would have feared this team more if they were playing like they were in the middle part of the season, but losing to Carolina and Atlanta says to me that this team isn't very good away from Qwest field and is unable to take over the game with the running attack. I think pack win 27-17.

RockJock07
01-07-2008, 02:56 PM
By the way, cloudy and 26 on saturday in Gb, thank god no more 60's

The Legend
01-07-2008, 03:53 PM
WOW theres alot of new rookies lol

but i think we have to let Aaron Kampman off his leash let the big dog eat and go crazy on Sean Locklear

ImBrotherCain
01-07-2008, 04:09 PM
WOW theres alot of new rookies lol

but i think we have to let Aaron Kampman off his leash let the big dog eat and go crazy on Sean Locklear

Not really new here... ive been reading these forums for almost 2 years i just dont post alot. Trying to start more now.


But to the game... I think we can win it but i think Favre cant throw INTs and Grants got to have a good game. On the Defensive side Bush has to play a good game and i want to see Kampman come out with 2 sacks. Im gonna say Pack by a touch down

GB12
01-07-2008, 04:11 PM
Not really new here... ive been reading these forums for almost 2 years i just dont post alot. Trying to start more now.


But to the game... I think we can win it but i think Favre cant throw INTs and Grants got to have a good game. On the Defensive side Bush has to play a good game and i want to see Kampman come out with 2 sacks. Im gonna say Pack by a touch down
Williams will be the nickelback. Bush has dropped down the depth chart. I'm not even sure where he stands at this point.

Boston
01-07-2008, 04:21 PM
I think this game is going to come down to our interior line play. If they give Favre a pocket to step up in, forget about it. Tauscher/Clifton will be able to handle Tapp and Kerney, though Kerney may pose some problems, but nothing we can't handle.

GB12
01-07-2008, 04:41 PM
I think this game is going to come down to our interior line play. If they give Favre a pocket to step up in, forget about it. Tauscher/Clifton will be able to handle Tapp and Kerney, though Kerney may pose some problems, but nothing we can't handle.
The interior line has been fine all season when it comes to pass protectiong. It was the run game that they had trouble with. Favre's only been sacked 15 times during the whole regular season. Yes, the Seahawks have a very good pass rush and they'll get their hits on Favre, but I'm not too worried about it.

Primetime21
01-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Hows the weather look for this weeks game?

The Legend
01-08-2008, 09:56 PM
Hows the weather look for this weeks game?


25f cloudy

also did anyone see that punter in that the redskins game he was blasting them very impressive, 4 kicks in the 10 yards line

PackerFan20
01-09-2008, 10:51 AM
The only thing that worries me is Favre. If he comes out and plays like he did at the beginning of the Dallas game before he got hurt, we are in trouble. No launching passes down the field early or holding onto the ball trying to make something happen when the pocket breaks down. He needs to get the ball out quick, but he also needs to throw it a little higher than usual. It seems to me that he has had quite a few passes knocked down recently, and with Seattle probably bringing the pressure a lot, he needs to make sure he gets the passes over the D-Line's hands. It seems like every tipped ball from Favre always ends up getting picked off, and we don't need Seattle getting any big momentum changers.

Football Fan
01-09-2008, 02:21 PM
The only thing that worries me is Favre. If he comes out and plays like he did at the beginning of the Dallas game before he got hurt, we are in trouble. No launching passes down the field early or holding onto the ball trying to make something happen when the pocket breaks down. He needs to get the ball out quick, but he also needs to throw it a little higher than usual. It seems to me that he has had quite a few passes knocked down recently, and with Seattle probably bringing the pressure a lot, he needs to make sure he gets the passes over the D-Line's hands. It seems like every tipped ball from Favre always ends up getting picked off, and we don't need Seattle getting any big momentum changers.The o-line played terrible against dallas, Favre had people in his face constantly till they knocked him out of the game. That cant happen in the playoffs or the packers will be out.
I thought before the game that that was what the packers needed to do to Romo, but I think the dallas o-line would make it harder to do. I do expect to see the giants come after romo big time and if they can get to him often enough romo will be making the same mistakes favre did and the giants will win that game.

Nitschke-Hawk
01-10-2008, 04:02 PM
"We wanted to kick some wet balls and snap some wet balls and hold some wet balls, and we did all that, it was good," Stock said.

GB12
01-10-2008, 10:19 PM
If Blackmon cannot play, Tramon Williams would replace him as the nickel back and punt returner. Williams also will return kickoffs. Robinson, who also returns kickoffs, was replaced by Vernand Morency during practice Thursday
Hmmm. I don't understand why we would take Robinson, a former probowler, off kick return duty.

TitleTown088
01-10-2008, 10:28 PM
Hmmm. I don't understand why we would take Robinson, a former probowler, off kick return duty.

Because Robinson was rehabbing his knee?

PackerFan20
01-11-2008, 02:24 PM
The o-line played terrible against dallas, Favre had people in his face constantly till they knocked him out of the game. That cant happen in the playoffs or the packers will be out.
I thought before the game that that was what the packers needed to do to Romo, but I think the dallas o-line would make it harder to do. I do expect to see the giants come after romo big time and if they can get to him often enough romo will be making the same mistakes favre did and the giants will win that game.

Exactly - Favre had constant pressure, but he was holding onto the ball too long and trying to force it down the field, instead of taking the short passes they had been getting all season. The only reason Jennings gets his long TD passes is because everything is short, short, short, then BOOM! (Madden style), over the top. If you are getting tons of pressure, you throw the short passes, and that is what has made this offense great this season. Throw it short, and let the receiver make some moves.

The Legend
01-11-2008, 08:28 PM
also i think we need robinson more in the superbowl / championship game
so we shouldnt risk him 2mmro on kick offs

Boston
01-12-2008, 01:58 AM
also i think we need robinson more in the superbowl / championship game
so we shouldnt risk him 2mmro on kick offs

I hope that was sarcasm...

The Legend
01-12-2008, 03:27 AM
I hope that was sarcasm...

well if hes not healty then why should he do kick off returns today?

its not worth to risk anything when Williams or Morency can do it

that way he dont push him and next week he can be more healty
not to metion if hes not healty then he wont play as good

NickCollins36
01-12-2008, 06:40 PM
ohhhhhh babyyyyy atari bigby showed up to play son!!!
our whole defense today played lights out
oh yea that favre guy played pretty good today too :P
BRING ON DALLAS OR NEW YORK!!

cordscords
01-12-2008, 06:41 PM
I'm so f'n happy right now!

TitleTown088
01-12-2008, 07:12 PM
I was very happy the entire game. Man, it was sweet.

wiscbadgerfootball
01-12-2008, 09:14 PM
I Love Ryan Grant!!

neko4
01-12-2008, 09:59 PM
i was scared for like 5 mins, then Favre just tore it UP! And Ryan Grant, what great resiliancy he showed, he played mad all day!

PackerLegend
01-12-2008, 10:24 PM
Favre has definitely changed alot this season and doesn't force the ball as much. You could definitely see it today because earlier in his career down 14-0 he might start to force it but man he didnt and just played lights out. If our team plays like it did minus the first 2 series we are going to be tough to beat. It would have been 42-6 minus the first 2 series and we coasted through the 4th quarter. People talked about our inexperience but we showed that had no effect because after going down 14-0 we didnt panic and a big reason which i said we wouldn't be affected in a different thread was Brett Favre.

NickCollins36
01-12-2008, 10:34 PM
what got into Bigby..
dayummm

The Legend
01-12-2008, 10:47 PM
what got into Bigby..
dayummm

i think hes proving himslef

Nitschke-Hawk
01-12-2008, 10:58 PM
The guy is an impact player. Sure he makes mistakes but he is an impact safety and every great team needs that now.

[edit]


Oh yeah I LOVED the defense today, I mean they kicked it up another notch, they were SO PHYSICAL. They imposed their will on Seattle. Just about everybody played great. Al Harris was hitting like a monster too.

PackerLegend
01-12-2008, 11:20 PM
I was tough on Bibgy earlier in the season but man as of late he has been playing great. Keep it up

umphrey
01-13-2008, 01:27 AM
It was fun to watch, our secondary just beat them up.

lod01
01-13-2008, 11:40 AM
Favre has definitely changed alot this season and doesn't force the ball as much. You could definitely see it today because earlier in his career down 14-0 he might start to force it but man he didnt and just played lights out. If our team plays like it did minus the first 2 series we are going to be tough to beat. It would have been 42-6 minus the first 2 series and we coasted through the 4th quarter. People talked about our inexperience but we showed that had no effect because after going down 14-0 we didnt panic and a big reason which i said we wouldn't be affected in a different thread was Brett Favre.

Because he doesn't have to and he knows it. Over the last few years the D has sucked, the Favre weapons have consisted of Driver and nothing other than 1 J.Walker year. Now even a WR injury doesn't mean anything. The difference from years before is the team is very good.

I have no idea how some people could not see this going into the year. He knows who he is (that I'm talking about). That is why I made the prediction I made.

johbur
01-14-2008, 12:24 AM
That game was so good, I'm going to watch it again, skipping the first five minutes. I hit the pause button on my DVR and went and watched the last 15 minutes of a local college basketball game I was so irritated. After their second TD, this just became almost the perfect game to watch. Dominating defense with Atari Bigby laying big hits and Al Harris delivering crushing tackles on coverage. The O-line abused Seattle, which is not what I expected in this game at all. I thought we'd be doubling Kerney all day. He got doubled only 25% of the plays. Tauscher PWNED Kerney! Tatafufu was a non-factor and obviously Barnett loves playing against guys that get more recognition but really aren't his equal. Favre managed the game, made great decisions, under-hand tossed a little excitement and even showed he's an under-study of becoming a Asst. Coach. I also LOVED the snow images. It is 68 degrees or so here with blue sky and a few white clouds and I was in shorts, a t-shirt and sandles all day. I never tire of seeing snow games like that. All-in-all, the only thing that made this win better was Dallas losing and GB getting another home game.

GO PACKERS!!!

Empire
01-14-2008, 10:17 AM
Brandon Jackson played decently in spot duty. 8 carries/ 34 yards. 1 catch/ 12 yards and a touchdown. He seems to be creating a nice niche for himself as the number two back behind Grant and has played well the past two ball games. Hopefully he continues to develop and play well. Ideally I think a 2:1 ratio for Grant's carries to Jackson's carries would be the best situation. That will hopefully keep Grant fresh and injury free.

Empire
01-14-2008, 10:34 AM
I heart BF51

I'd give the nod to Seattle if they meet in the playoffs at this point. Favre has thrown 7 interceptions in his last 4 games, and they haven't beaten a good team since Minnesota almost two months ago (if you consider Minnesota good).

Favre4ever
01-14-2008, 11:56 AM
I heart BF51

What a hater this guy is lol. Gotta love him.

Boston
01-14-2008, 03:46 PM
I heart BF51

Is he ever right in his predictions with the Packers?

princefielder28
01-14-2008, 05:10 PM
Is he ever right in his predictions with the Packers?

Just a typical Bears fan

jackalope
01-14-2008, 05:28 PM
Bigby has really stepped up his play recently. I had been in favor of benching him for Rouse earlier in the season, but he has really improved and it looks like we've found ourselves a solid SS.

someone447
01-15-2008, 01:13 AM
Is he ever right in his predictions with the Packers?

Marquand Manual.

It is really quite odd. He is very knowledgeable, and his predictions are usually pretty good, but when it is about the Packers he lets his homerism get in the way.

Football Fan
01-15-2008, 01:42 AM
Is he ever right in his predictions with the Packers?
The day after the packer game I went back and read the divisional playoff thread and kinda got a kick out of these comments from him:

"They are respecting Green Bay's running game way too much."
"Nice juke by Jennings. They're still respecting the run way too much."
"Haha...normally I would but I hate the Seahawks too, they play girly football.
That said, my eyes light up with joy everytime Favre throws a pick."
"I love cold weather games, unforunately teams don't know how to man up and run the ball anymore, which is why they look so terrible.
""Originally Posted by neko4
Green Bay still plays man2man" BF51 responded:
"Yeah but they run the ball like girly-men. They're offense is essentially dink and dunk just like the Seahawks. The WCO is usually effective but it's terrible to watch IMO."
"Brett Favre can't start forcing things
Translation: Brett Favre will probably force things."
Said after grants 2nd fumble:
"Probably a good idea to not change your opinion of a player based on one play.

EDIT: Check that, he sucks. Hahahaha.."

Some of this might appear to be out of context, so feel free and read it for yourself. Also this was written before Grant exploded for 200 yards.

Also dont get me wrong, I dont mind the guy. Im ok with someone wanting their division rival to screw up, as long as he tries to be realistic in his criticism and he does try to be.
I just find these comments kinda humorous after I saw the outcome of the game.

To be fair I will put down a few good things he wrote:

"Ok I'm really impressed by Greg Jennings today."
"Packers need to go for the jugular here."
"Damn Atari can lay the wood."

Again im not trying to call him out, anyone can go back and find past comments someone posted that look silly after the fact. I just like how the whole game changed after 8 minutes in the packers favor and a bear fan eager for the packers failure had eventually fallen silent.

someone447
01-15-2008, 10:10 AM
Said after grants 2nd fumble:
"Probably a good idea to not change your opinion of a player based on one play.

EDIT: Check that, he sucks. Hahahaha.."


That one was a joke.

LonghornsLegend
01-27-2008, 05:15 PM
The day after the packer game I went back and read the divisional playoff thread and kinda got a kick out of these comments from him:

"They are respecting Green Bay's running game way too much."
"Nice juke by Jennings. They're still respecting the run way too much."
"Haha...normally I would but I hate the Seahawks too, they play girly football.
That said, my eyes light up with joy everytime Favre throws a pick."
"I love cold weather games, unforunately teams don't know how to man up and run the ball anymore, which is why they look so terrible.
""Originally Posted by neko4
Green Bay still plays man2man" BF51 responded:
"Yeah but they run the ball like girly-men. They're offense is essentially dink and dunk just like the Seahawks. The WCO is usually effective but it's terrible to watch IMO."
"Brett Favre can't start forcing things
Translation: Brett Favre will probably force things."
Said after grants 2nd fumble:
"Probably a good idea to not change your opinion of a player based on one play.

EDIT: Check that, he sucks. Hahahaha.."

Some of this might appear to be out of context, so feel free and read it for yourself. Also this was written before Grant exploded for 200 yards.

Also dont get me wrong, I dont mind the guy. Im ok with someone wanting their division rival to screw up, as long as he tries to be realistic in his criticism and he does try to be.
I just find these comments kinda humorous after I saw the outcome of the game.

To be fair I will put down a few good things he wrote:

"Ok I'm really impressed by Greg Jennings today."
"Packers need to go for the jugular here."
"Damn Atari can lay the wood."

Again im not trying to call him out, anyone can go back and find past comments someone posted that look silly after the fact. I just like how the whole game changed after 8 minutes in the packers favor and a bear fan eager for the packers failure had eventually fallen silent.



this seems a bit stalkish no?

Football Fan
01-27-2008, 07:16 PM
this seems a bit stalkish no?Actually bf51 has been commenting on the packers and the nfc north since ive been on this site and likely longer. The guy has his own appreciation thread for the nfc north, because everyone particularly in the north is very familiar with him. I know that over the last couple years I have had several agreements or dissagreements with him. So when he writes something involving the nfc north I usually read it if I come across it and sometimes comment on it.
You on the other hand seem to be displaying some stalker issues, concidering the last (and probably only) time I talked to you I called out cowboy fans like yourself that would embrace another dirtbag like pacman on your team and compared him to michael Irvin whom you defended. In fact here is the thread which got locked out before I could respond to you.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17198&page=2
Me:
"A guy like pacman on the cowboys would be fitting, simiar to a scumbag like Irvin. Sickening how a team that embraces scumbags some way conciders itself "americas team".
You:
"thats funny, could you please compare how irvin was a scumbag during his tenure with the team the way pacman has for the titans?"
Me:"You must be young or have a short memory. Maybe I will list some of Irvins history later, but Im going to work now".
You:
"riiiight...you cant even compare the two in terms of the type of trouble pacman has gotten into, he is in a class of his own first off...No one has ever been in trouble consistently the way he has and stayed in the league for as long as Irvin did"

I have no problem comparing the 2 of them, here you go:
Sexual assault charges, slicing a teamates neck in a dormroom fight and various drug charges.

So yeah I say Irvin is as big a scumbag as pacman.
Here sift through this and enjoy one negative story after another about irvin and his troubles with the law and the PR headache he was for the team.
http://www.texnews.com/1998/2000/cowboys/randy0811.html
http://www.texnews.com/cowboyscamp/index00.html
http://www.lubbockonline.com/news/123196/williams.htm
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/010197/cowboys.html
Just dont blame me for his his legal history, Im just telling you irvin was a big scumbag much like pacman and if a team wants to designate itself americas team they shouldnt have garbage like this on there roster.