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Thunder&Lightning
01-08-2008, 03:55 PM
ray rice declares for the nfl draft. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=3186871

can he be a 1-2 rounder with a good combine?

BeerBaron
01-08-2008, 03:57 PM
ray rice declares for the nfl draft. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=3186871

can he be a 1-2 rounder with a good combine?

with a fantastic combine sure...but i think this is one junior who should have stayed. Another big year next year would have gotten him even stronger heisman consideration and may have moved up up the draft boards further....

Flyboy
01-08-2008, 03:58 PM
Jesus A. Christ. This is looking like the deepest draft at the RB position I've ever seen (as long as I've been watching the draft).

Thunder&Lightning
01-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Jesus A. Christ. This is looking like the deepest draft at the RB position I've ever seen (as long as I've been watching the draft).

ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT TOO

D-Unit
01-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Jesus A. Christ. This is looking like the deepest draft at the RB position I've ever seen (as long as I've been watching the draft).
It's deep, but there is only 1 elite prospect... and even he has concerns that scouts have to deal with.

scottyboy
01-08-2008, 04:02 PM
HEYYYY!!!!!! this was MY THREAD!!!! I'm supposed to make the Ray Ray thread.... HE'S MINE!!!




DONT GO RAY RAY!!!! I LOVE YOU DONT GO

foozball
01-08-2008, 04:03 PM
i think most people knock on his size at 5'9 205lbs or so and lack of top end speed and predict he'll run low 4.5's...compare that to maurice jones drew who is a truck at 5'7 210lbs and ran 4.39 and was taken in mid-late round 2

Sveen
01-08-2008, 04:05 PM
No surprise to see him go. 2nd rounder (I think) :)

Flyboy
01-08-2008, 04:09 PM
No surprise to see him go. 2nd rounder (I think) :)

We're probably going to take a RB either in round 2 or round 3 of the draft. Bank on it.

D-Unit
01-08-2008, 04:11 PM
3rd Round Prediction

oldLibid21
01-08-2008, 04:14 PM
with a fantastic combine sure...but i think this is one junior who should have stayed. Another big year next year would have gotten him even stronger heisman consideration and may have moved up up the draft boards further....

He's got nothing else to accomplish. I don't think Heisman really had any thing to do with why he declared and whatnot.

Forenci
01-08-2008, 04:14 PM
HEYYYY!!!!!! this was MY THREAD!!!! I'm supposed to make the Ray Ray thread.... HE'S MINE!!!




DONT GO RAY RAY!!!! I LOVE YOU DONT GO

Did you jump off the George Washington bridge yet, or are you still contemplating?

It's too bad that the Giants won't pick him, unless he slips to the 4th-5th round. Which I doubt. Right now I view him as a solid 3rd round pick. He could get a higher grade if he performs well at the combine. I don't see him running well though. 4.50 flat on the 40, maybe.

diabsoule
01-08-2008, 04:15 PM
Jesus A. Christ. This is looking like the deepest draft at the RB position I've ever seen (as long as I've been watching the draft).

I was getting ready to say the same thing.

Sportsfan486
01-08-2008, 04:16 PM
It's deep, but there is only 1 elite prospect... and even he has concerns that scouts have to deal with.

Hmm? I see two to three prospects that rate out as highly as anyone in the past 5 years not named Adrian Peterson and not *that* far off AD.

(McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, in that order atm.)

Plus you add in people like *Felix Jones, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice and James Davis whom all have some sort of fighting chance at the 1st with a good enough combine and that's quite a class.

*I think Felix Jones will end up staying.

energizerbunny
01-08-2008, 04:23 PM
well, he can't possibiliy improveh is stock more..... he is really a prospect I like and I feel he can be a good productive nfl back

Thunder&Lightning
01-08-2008, 04:30 PM
Hmm? I see two to three prospects that rate out as highly as anyone in the past 5 years not named Adrian Peterson and not *that* far off AD.

(McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, in that order atm.)

Plus you add in people like *Felix Jones, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice and James Davis whom all have some sort of fighting chance at the 1st with a good enough combine and that's quite a class.

*I think Felix Jones will end up staying.

agree completely this class is deep and Mcfadden is elite prospect and the rest that sports fan named are potential 1st rounders give me a year that there were more than 6-7 1st rounders then you will have an agrumeant

Cashmoney
01-08-2008, 04:39 PM
If he runs in the 4.4s he'll find a way to get in the second round.

Texas Homer
01-08-2008, 04:42 PM
2nd rounder in my opinion.

badgerbacker
01-08-2008, 04:54 PM
Hmm? I see two to three prospects that rate out as highly as anyone in the past 5 years not named Adrian Peterson and not *that* far off AD.

(McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, in that order atm.)

Plus you add in people like *Felix Jones, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice and James Davis whom all have some sort of fighting chance at the 1st with a good enough combine and that's quite a class.

*I think Felix Jones will end up staying.I think you're forgetting how amazing everybody thought Reggie Bush would be. Sure he hasn't looked great in the NFL, but as a prospect, people were talking about him like he was the second coming. That being said, I really like this year's RB class and even though I really think the Packers are set with Ryan Grant, I could see us picking up somebody that drops to the end of the 3rd or maybe 4th round, possibly Rice.

Addict
01-08-2008, 05:16 PM
this draft is insanely deep at RB, there's a few bound to fall because of need.

scottyboy
01-08-2008, 05:17 PM
i made my own Ray Rice thread. I can't open it without getting slightly aroused

Tampa 2 4 life
01-08-2008, 05:17 PM
Hes Out Of The Big East Yesyesyes!

etk
01-08-2008, 05:20 PM
It's deep, but there is only 1 elite prospect... and even he has concerns that scouts have to deal with.

Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall still might declare. I think you can make a case for them being better prospects than McFadden.

T24L: It's not Rice you need to leave the Big East, it's Sosa, Zuttah and Fladell. #24 on Rutgers (don't know his name) is a better athlete, and would shred USF if they kept their OL.

scottyboy
01-08-2008, 05:23 PM
etk, 24 is TRUE FRESHMAN Mason Robinson, kids a complete athlete and total burner. I'm bummed about losing Zuttah, Sosa and Fladell, but RU has VERY capable back ups, most notable is OG Haslaam who started to start the year but lost his spot to Davis who'll take over at OT. We'll see what happens, we've got some good OL guys waiting in the wings. We're losing 3 guys to the draft, which hurts, but we'll still have a very good OL

etk
01-08-2008, 05:24 PM
etk, 24 is TRUE FRESHMAN Mason Robinson, kids a complete athlete and total burner. I'm bummed about losing Zuttah, Sosa and Fladell, but RU has VERY capable back ups, most notable is OG Haslaam who started to start the year but lost his spot to Davis who'll take over at OT. We'll see what happens, we've got some good OL guys waiting in the wings. We're losing 3 guys to the draft, which hurts, but we'll still have a very good OL

Sounds like you've found a candidate...see thread 2.

scottyboy
01-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Sounds like you've found a candidate...see thread 2.

i responded there... I'll wait on Mason. Kordell Young(coming off knee surgery) is the starter as of now. Watch out for him, he's got blazing speed.

From now on, I'll just respond in my thread cuz it has sexy pics.

Travis 24
01-08-2008, 06:20 PM
This is what I wanted...although I'll miss him, hopefully I can see him in Philly next year. :D

BamaFalcon59
01-08-2008, 06:40 PM
One of my favorite prospects.

toonsterwu
01-08-2008, 06:52 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if Ray Rice went in the first. I think he'll end up a 2nd rounder, but I wouldn't be stunned in the first. If it wasn't for all these underclassmen, he could go higher. A lot of folks seem to really like him. In some respects, he might compare somewhat similarly to how people viewed Carnell Williams, as a guy who might not have elite level tools, but knows how to get the job done, has good vision, and shows some toughness (I'm not comparing them physically).

I think Ray is a guy who, the 40 time might not hurt him too much if it's bad ... but it also might not help him too much. Those that are wary of him as a first rounder will likely be wary anyways (size, number of carries, etceteras), even with a good 40 time. If he runs a poor 40 time, enough people will buy that he has better playing speed and can be productive that I don't anticipate him falling further than say, early 3rd in a worst case scenario.

But that's me. A lot could happen to change my mind.

Sportsfan486
01-08-2008, 06:54 PM
I think you're forgetting how amazing everybody thought Reggie Bush would be.

I, personally, never had Reggie Bush slated as an elite RB prospect. I had him marked as a superb change-of-pace back and good return specialist and, at best, that's the niche he's found for himself in the NFL.

But yes, he was extremely touted as a prospect and honestly I just forgot about him. I kept thinking "wait, who else was there?" and it was Bush. The only one of the three I mentioned from this class that I would put Bush ABOVE, however, would be Mendenhall.

I believe McFadden and Stewart are superior RB prospects than Bush was and slightly inferior to AD. Mendenhall needs a great combine to really hit that elite level and, speaking of great combines, if Felix Jones was to declare and have a great combine he could really show himself as a top-tier prospect. The same with Jamaal Charles.

I see James Davis going in the 2nd, I've never been particularly fond of him. I don't think Ray Rice has the measurables for the first and will also be a 2nd rounder.

I have 2 RBs locked for the first (McFadden + Stewart), 2 very likely (Mendenhall + Jones if he declares), 1 with a fighter's chance (Charles), and 2 with an outside shot (Davis + Rice.)

If I was to do a mock right now I'd have 3 going in the first (I don't think Jones will declare) and 3 in the 2nd. Heck, I might just go ahead and write up a draft.

Sportsfan486
01-08-2008, 06:56 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if Ray Rice went in the first. I think he'll end up a 2nd rounder, but I wouldn't be stunned in the first. If it wasn't for all these underclassmen, he could go higher. A lot of folks seem to really like him. In some respects, he might compare somewhat similarly to how people viewed Carnell Williams, as a guy who might not have elite level tools, but knows how to get the job done, has good vision, and shows some toughness (I'm not comparing them physically).


I actually compare him more to a DeAngelo Williams. Hugely productive, great intangibles, a lot of wear and tear but with a lot of toughness. Also the same sort of size going for them, although Rice could be a tad smaller. I don't think he will run as well but otherwise they're very similiar in my eyes.

etk
01-08-2008, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if Ray Rice went in the first. I think he'll end up a 2nd rounder, but I wouldn't be stunned in the first. If it wasn't for all these underclassmen, he could go higher. A lot of folks seem to really like him. In some respects, he might compare somewhat similarly to how people viewed Carnell Williams, as a guy who might not have elite level tools, but knows how to get the job done, has good vision, and shows some toughness (I'm not comparing them physically).



I'll have to disagree with you there toon. Cadillac was very shifty, explosive and fast, especially for a 215 pounder. Rice is better in other areas but Cadillac had much better physical tools.

I actually compare him more to a DeAngelo Williams. Hugely productive, great intangibles, a lot of wear and tear but with a lot of toughness. Also the same sort of size going for them, although Rice could be a tad smaller. I don't think he will run as well but otherwise they're very similiar in my eyes.

They're similar in terms of what you said, but physically they're nothing alike. Rice is a power back while Williams is pure explosiveness.