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The Legend
01-11-2008, 09:35 PM
Who Are Your Top 10 Corners That Already Declared

Mike Jenkins, South Florida, CB
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. 40 Time: 4.40.

Aqib Talib, Kansas, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.45.

Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.35.

Antoine Cason, Arizona, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 185. 40 Time: 4.45.

Terrell Thomas, USC, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.40.

Tracy Porter, Indiana, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 180. 40 Time: 4.30.

Leodis McKelvin, Troy State, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.40.

DeJuan Tribble, Boston College, CB
Height: 5-9. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.40.

Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech, CB
Height: 5-10. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.45.

GET LOOSE
01-11-2008, 09:39 PM
i have eveyone on your list w/o Tribble and i will put in Cromartie

TACKLE
01-11-2008, 11:37 PM
Talib is too high. I have a feeling he will struggle at the next level. He has good ball skills but he has some technique issues and I his speed is a little overrated. I don't see him being very physical or make many plays in the run game. He's been productive but I think he may slide a bit come draft day.

On another note, I think that Jack Ike will challenge Mike Jenkins as the Number 1 corner as long as Ikegwuonu's "character issues" don't effect where he is drafted. Jack is fast, physical, versatile, and productive. Jenkins has smoother hips but I think Jack Ike is faster and more physical. Should be interesting where they end up.

btw, you only ranked 9 corners, not 10.

KCJ58
01-12-2008, 12:22 AM
my top 10 (Malcolm Jenkins is staying he was #1)

1. Mike Jenkins (South Florida) Sr.
2. Reggie Smith (Oklahoma) Jr.
3. Aqib Talib (Kansas) Jr.
4. Antonie Cason (Arizona) Sr.
5. Jack Ikegwuonu (Wisconsin) Jr.
6. Leodis McKelvin (Troy) Sr.
7. Terrell Thomas (USC) Sr.
8. Brandon Flowers (Virginia Tech) Jr.
9. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Tennessee State) Sr.
10. DeJuan Tribble (Boston College) Sr.

The Legend
01-12-2008, 03:38 AM
my top 10 (Malcolm Jenkins is staying he was #1)

1. Mike Jenkins (South Florida) Sr.
2. Reggie Smith (Oklahoma) Jr.
3. Aqib Talib (Kansas) Jr.
4. Antonie Cason (Arizona) Sr.
5. Jack Ikegwuonu (Wisconsin) Jr.
6. Leodis McKelvin (Troy) Sr.
7. Terrell Thomas (USC) Sr.
8. Brandon Flowers (Virginia Tech) Jr.
9. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Tennessee State) Sr.
10. DeJuan Tribble (Boston College) Sr.


i would have him on my list but he hasnt enter yet

toonsterwu
01-12-2008, 04:22 AM
My current top 10 (not including any undeclared; this isn't my personal preference list):

1. Mike Jenkins - Good height, good size, good athleticism. Can even help out on special teams. Has gotten markedly better in the past year. Top 15.

2. Leodis McKelvin - Corners with man ability and good athleticism always get a lot of love (Pacman). Top 25.

3. Jack Ikegwuonu - What's not to like? Okay ... there's the character thing that needs to be fully investigated. But he has all the tools, and it's a matter of tightening up his technique. The instincts may be ahead of Mike Jenkins'. Late first.

4. Aqib Talib - I like him. But he is somewhat of a limited player in some respects. Teams that run predominantly man coverage won't be able to use him. He doesn't really have top level quickness, and his tackling is at best average. His instincts are good though. Honestly, if New England can trade down, Talib feels, to me, like the type of corner they might gamble on. Late first/early 2nd.

5. Patrick Lee - Good size, good athleticism. Is a bit raw and may need some time, but there's no reason he can't end up as the best corner in the draft long run. Late first/early 2nd.

6. Charles Godfrey - early-mid 2nd.
7. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - mid-2nd.
8. Brandon Flowers - mid 2nd.
9. Antoine Cason - mid-late 2nd.
10. Trae Williams - late 2nd/early 3rd.

Patriots16-0
01-12-2008, 09:40 AM
1. Mike Jenkins (South Florida) Sr. - Top 15
2. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Tennessee State) Sr. - Top 25
3. Reggie Smith (Oklahoma) Jr. - late 1st
4. Aqib Talib (Kansas) Jr. - early 2nd
5. Leodis McKelvin (Troy) Sr. - early-mid 2nd
6. Antonie Cason (Arizona) Sr. - mid 2nd
7. Brandon Flowers (Virginia Tech) Jr. - mid-late 2nd
8. Jack Ikegwuonu (Wisconsin) Jr. - late 2nd
9. Terrell Thomas (USC) Sr. - late 2nd/early 3rd
10. DeJuan Tribble (Boston College) Sr. - mid 3rd

bored of education
01-12-2008, 10:57 AM
2. Jenkins
3. Ike
4. Godfrey
5. Cason
6. Trae Williams
7. FLOWERS
8. McKelvin
9. Talib
10. Patrick Lee
11. Tracy Porter

Cashmoney
01-12-2008, 11:25 AM
Im disappointed that Reggie Smith hasn't declared yet.

Tampa 2 4 life
01-12-2008, 11:29 AM
1. Mike Jenkins
2. Mckelvin
3. Cason
4. Ike
5. Talib
6. Trae Williams
7. Godfrey
8. Flowers
9. Porter
10 Terell Thomas

Grave Digger
01-12-2008, 11:46 AM
I don't think Godfrey will be a guy who can start right away but if he can learn for a season or two, I think he could be a pretty dang good corner. He's raw right now but he has a lot of potential and upside.

foozball
01-12-2008, 01:07 PM
1 Mike Jenkins
Best combo of physical tools and size.

2 Antoine Cason
Skills are polished and he has the instincts. Physical with room to put on a few more pounds. Speed is his only question

3 Jack Ike
Similar to Mike with good combo of tools and size. Not as polished but upside may be higher.

4 Leodis Mckelvin
Good all around ability but not polished due to lower level of competition.

5 Aqib Talib
Maybe the best ballskills of them all. Speed and physicality may be a question.

6 Brandon Flowers
Physical and pretty good all around corner but character issues are questionable and he doesnt stand out in any one area, but all around is a good CB.

7 Terrell Thomas
Physical with good size and experience at S. Can get burned at times but should be a good CB. Similar to Flowers in that he doesn't really stand out in any one area.

8 Dominique Rogers Cromartie
Dominated lower level of competition. Has speed and size potential. Team taking him is betting on potential, not current ability.

9 Dejuan Tribble
Physical CB with good all around tools. Questions on his height and recovery speed, but has the ballskills needed.

10 Charles Godfrey
Physical ballhawk but not much experience. Honestly I see him as a future FS because of his size and ballskills. Also started out his college career as a FS.

keylime_5
01-12-2008, 01:12 PM
1-Mike Jenkins
2-Aqib Talib
3-Leodis McKelvin
4-Brandon Flowers
5-Antoine Cason
6-Jack Ikegwuono
7-Tracy Porter
8-Dominique Cromartie
9-DeJuan Tribble
10-Terrell Thomas

Not the best CB class, but I think most of these guys will be fine players. I would have Tribble higher if he were bigger, and I think Ikegwuono might be a safety in the NFL depending who taking.

PACKmanN
01-12-2008, 01:52 PM
1. Brandon Flowers
2. Mike Jenkins
3. Jack Ikegwuonu
4. Aqib Talib
5. Charles Godfrey
6. Antoine Cason
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Tracy Porter
9. Leodis McKelvin
10. Orlando Scandrick

619
01-12-2008, 02:05 PM
1. Aqib Talib
2. Leodis McKelvin
3. Mike Jenkins
4. Jack Ikegwuonu
5. Brandon Flowers
6. Antoine Cason
7. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
8. Tracy Porter
9. Dwight Lowery
10. Orlando Scandrick

619
01-12-2008, 02:08 PM
1. Brandon Flowers
2. Mike Jenkins
3. Jack Ikegwuonu
4. Aqib Talib
5. Charles Godfrey
6. Antoine Cason
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Tracy Porter
9. Leodis McKelvin
10. Orlando Scandrick

Interesting, I thought no one else would consider Scandrick in the top 10. I really like the guy and cant wait to see how he does in the combine.

Babylon
01-12-2008, 02:48 PM
Who Are Your Top 10 Corners That Already Declared

Mike Jenkins, South Florida, CB
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. 40 Time: 4.40.

Aqib Talib, Kansas, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.45.

Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.35.

Antoine Cason, Arizona, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 185. 40 Time: 4.45.

Terrell Thomas, USC, CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. 40 Time: 4.40.

Tracy Porter, Indiana, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 180. 40 Time: 4.30.

Leodis McKelvin, Troy State, CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.40.

DeJuan Tribble, Boston College, CB
Height: 5-9. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.40.

Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech, CB
Height: 5-10. Weight: 190. 40 Time: 4.45.

Quite generous with those 40 times.

diabsoule
01-12-2008, 03:22 PM
I'm a big fan of Charles Godfrey. I think he'll turn into a great CB if he stays there.

bored of education
01-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Godfrey reminds me of Winfield/Lito Sheppard type physical big corner

Sniper
01-12-2008, 03:43 PM
Godfrey reminds me of Winfield/Lito Sheppard type physical big corner

Lito's not that physical. More of a pure man coverage type guy.

Bills2083
01-12-2008, 06:18 PM
what round do you think Ike will go in?

BamaFalcon59
01-12-2008, 06:53 PM
Quite generous with those 40 times.

I agree.

Brandon Flowers might be the best of the pack if he has no character concerns. Underrated athlete, great ball skills, amazing instincts. Can read the QB with the best of them. Reminds me of Asante Samuel. People have said Ronde Barber but I think that would be underestimating his ability to go stride for stride with wide receivers. His physicality and ball insticts are up there with Ronde Barber's though.

619
01-12-2008, 06:55 PM
what round do you think Ike will go in?

Hes a late first round talent. Could end up going to the local Packers.

badgerbacker
01-12-2008, 08:22 PM
Hes a late first round talent. Could end up going to the local Packers.God, I hope so. I think his draft position will be very closely related to how he runs though. If he's in the 4.45 range, I think he'd be at the end of the first, he could go earlier or later though depending on his time.

BamaFalcon59
01-12-2008, 08:52 PM
Now you have to add in Macho Harris.

mancl
01-12-2008, 10:30 PM
The Packers are looking for a physical man to man corner, no later than the 2nd round Which of the players mentioned above fit in that scheme?

adschofield
01-12-2008, 10:38 PM
Where would you guys rank Macho Harris???

619
01-12-2008, 10:41 PM
The Packers are looking for a physical man to man corner, no later than the 2nd round Which of the players mentioned above fit in that scheme?

Talib and Ikegwuonu are the best fits for the Packers defensive scheme. One or both of them should still be there at their pick in round one.

619
01-12-2008, 10:52 PM
The NFL advisory committee projected Macho Harris as a third round pick. He should now be in the top 10 CB discussion.

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/01/virginia-tech-star-cornerback-victor-%E2%80%9Cmacho%E2%80%9D-harris-declares-nfl-draft

T.Smith
01-12-2008, 11:15 PM
I think Ikegwuonu will rise the most, #1 or #2 CB off the bored.

619
01-12-2008, 11:18 PM
I think when we look back at this draft a few years from now I wouldnt be surprised if Ikegwuonu turned out to be the best corner of the pack.

GB12
01-12-2008, 11:21 PM
The Packers are looking for a physical man to man corner, no later than the 2nd round Which of the players mentioned above fit in that scheme?
1. Jack Ikegwuonu
2. Brandon Flowers
3. Charles Godfrey
4. Antoine Cason
Talib and Ikegwuonu are the best fits for the Packers defensive scheme. One or both of them should still be there at their pick in round one.
I don't think Talib is a good fit for us. I could definitely live with drafting him, but there are a lot of guys that are better fits. Also with Malcom Jenkins staying I doubt Ikegwuonu lasts until our pick.

bored of education
01-12-2008, 11:28 PM
1. Jack Ikegwuonu
2. Brandon Flowers
3. Charles Godfrey
4. Antoine Cason

I don't think Talib is a good fit for us. I could definitely live with drafting him, but there are a lot of guys that are better fits. Also with Malcom Jenkins staying I doubt Ikegwuonu lasts until our pick.


I think Godfrey as a Packer would be a gift from GOD!

Thn hopefully Cason falls to KC 2nd round!

bored of education
01-12-2008, 11:29 PM
2. Jenkins
3. Ike
4. Godfrey
5. Cason
6. Trae Williams
7. FLOWERS
8. McKelvin
9. Talib
10. Patrick Lee
11. Tracy Porter



I think Id put Harris at 5 or 6.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-12-2008, 11:30 PM
I really like Ikegwu, Brandon Flowers and of course, Jenkins. Flowers reminds me a lot of the physical Colts CBs, and could end up being a steal if he drops due to character concerns. After that, McKelvin and Porter intrigue me. Not a fan of many zone guys and haven't looked at Rodgers-Cromartie at all. In fact, I think I like Dwight Lowery more than most of the guys listed in the bottom half of these top 10s.