Limas Sweed

[Nick22401]

I brought this up in another thread and would like to here more opinions.

I don't understand why some people give so much love to Limas Sweed. Having him as the #1 WR is just a joke IMO. He's basically a deep threat guy that doesn't have good speed at all. Not a player that translates all that well to the NFL or atleast enough to be considered the #1 WR in the draft after missing a large portion of the year with an injury.

So for the people with him so high, can you please say why?

[theogt]

I agree that he doesn't translate well at all to the NFL. Tall, slow receivers just don't do well in the NFL.

[Babylon]

I think he could show similar to a Vincent Jackson of the Chargers, big possession type receiver that could get deep on occasion, needs to have a good workout to probably get into round 2. If he goes round 1 i would be shocked personally.

[etk]

I brought this up in another thread and would like to here more opinions.

I don't understand why some people give so much love to Limas Sweed. Having him as the #1 WR is just a joke IMO. He's basically a deep threat guy that doesn't have good speed at all. Not a player that translates all that well to the NFL or atleast enough to be considered the #1 WR in the draft after missing a large portion of the year with an injury.

So for the people with him so high, can you please say why?

What's more important is how Sweed is ranked 19 spots ahead of JordyZZZ!

I actually don't understand the hype either. He's like a poor man's Dwayne Jarrett coming off of a major injury. His only strength is catching jump balls on fade routes. I'd be shocked to see him drafted in the 1st day, but then again I'm shocked that people actually like him.

[MidwayMonster31]

His 40 is probably going to be the most important thing for his stock. Personally, I'd take Devin Thomas or Adarius Bowman over him for big receivers, but there's probably something Scott Wright knows that I don't.

[Texas Homer]

He has better speed than people give him credit for. He has really good hands too. A possession receiver with a little speed that makes big time catches.

[needled24_7]

how physical is he? is he a grown ass man like anquan boldin or a big tall softy

[Nick22401]

He has better speed than people give him credit for. He has really good hands too. A possession receiver with a little speed that makes big time catches.

Even if you think it's better then people give him credit for, it's not nearly good enough to be the #1 wr or even close to that.

[LonghornsLegend]

During his career I mostly saw him do a few routes, alot of fade routes and he did have seperation to run them in college, but even im not sold he can do it in the pros...His best case scenario is a poor mans Roy Williams, his acceleration isnt as good as Roy's, and he doesnt run as well after the catch with the ball in his hands either...

He could be a playmaker in the league regardless, some people act as if your not drafted in the first 2 rounds you wont amount to anything...I think he runs a mid 4.5, and he has a shot to go late 2nd rd off just stats or where he went to school vs a guy from a smaller conference...I wouldnt draft him to be my #1 wr though, but I still think he will make a solid nfl wr just nothing special

Also wouldnt be surprised if tennessee took him before he should come off the board, ive noticed a trend in players they are bringing in via the draft of FA, I think its a very high possibility that the Titans take him or Jermichael Finley in the draft

[MetSox17]

Limas Sweed isnt all that bad. He's a more than solid player, and is as experienced coming out as any other WR in the class. He was at Texas for five years i believe, and has played significantly in all his years there (except for his injured sr year). I like the comparison that was made to vincent jackson, which is what i believe he can become. Great hands, decent speed, and as they say, "you cant teach height". solid 2nd rounder IMO

[JoeSixPac]

I agree that he doesn't translate well at all to the NFL. Tall, slow receivers just don't do well in the NFL.
Tall slow receivers don't do well in the NFL? Roy Williams, Marques Colston, and Plaxico Burress aren't doing well? These guys are tall and as far as I know they aren't burners.

[Bobo]

Roy Williams is not slow. Yet some slow WR's can make it, if they have other really good characteristics.

Some thought Mike Williams had those other good traits....ugh.

[Gi-15]

Tall slow receivers don't do well in the NFL? Roy Williams, Marques Colston, and Plaxico Burress aren't doing well? These guys are tall and as far as I know they aren't burners.


Roy Williams ran a 4.35 at the combine...


Also, Vincent Jackson is running a 4.4, he was really a physical freak out of Northern Colorado.

[Gi-15]

Sweed looks like Reggie Williams to me, which is OK, but not Elite.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

I think he will be a steal anything out of round 1. Reminds me of TO.

[jnew76]

Limas Sweed has a lot of questions to answer coming off a serious injury. I think his speed is adequate for his size, but not blazing. I would guess 4.50-4.54. I am interested in watching him in change of direction drills at the combine. I think his ability to maintain speed in and out of his breaks will make all the difference. He rarely caught the ball over the middle in college and needs to prove he can do so to succeed in the NFL.

In all he needs to answer all of these questions to even have a chance to sniff the first round.

[keylime_5]

Limas has top ten pick skills, but his production hasn't been living up to its full potential, and the injury that sidelined him basically the entire senior year of his career hurt his stock a little. I think he'll be a steal in mid-late round 1 or early round 2.

[dbtb135]

Rich man's Maurice Stovall IMO. Mid second round, I think he's a solid pick. Top 15, I think he's a massive misuse of a high pick.

[constant cough]

I agree. People try and say Early Doucet is overrated. Well if Early is overrated then this guy sure as hell is too. What's he done that's so impressive other than just being tall?

[Sniper]

I agree. People try and say Early Doucet is overrated. Well if Early is overrated then this guy sure as hell is too. What's he done that's so impressive other than just being tall?

Limas can at least average 10 ypc.

[stretch14]

Unless someone runs a blazing speed at the combine (other than Desean Jackson) Limas Sweed is the best WR in this class right now. He might not have as much upside as Malcom Kelly or Hardy but I think he has the least risk out of all of them. I could see Desean Jackson being selected ahead of him but the only reason for that would be because Desean Jackson's returning skills and even then I really don't see a team reaching for him after Miami reached for Ginn last year and that didn't really show much promise this past year.

[etk]

Rich man's Maurice Stovall IMO. Mid second round, I think he's a solid pick. Top 15, I think he's a massive misuse of a high pick.

Stovall has the same size as Sweed, but is way more athletic and physical. I agree on the comparison, but I don't agree that he's a rich man's Stovall.

[constant cough]

Limas can at least average 10 ypc.


Early Doucet missed 5 games due to a groin injury and wasn't 100% healthy when it got back.

Early Doucet:

2004 - 14.3 avg
2005 - 15.0 avg
2006 - 13.1 avg

At least get your facts straight before you talk out of your a**.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Well, Sweed was injured too, but with a wrist injury and was never close to 100% and eventually shut it down for the year after 6 games.

2004 23/263/0 11.4
2005 36/545/5 15.1
2006 46/801/12 17.4
2007 19/306/3 16.1

just for a comparison

[constant cough]

Well, Sweed was injured too, but with a wrist injury and was never close to 100% and eventually shut it down for the year after 6 games.

2004 23/263/0 11.4
2005 36/545/5 15.1
2006 46/801/12 17.4
2007 19/306/3 16.1

just for a comparison


Yes but Sweed put up his 2007 average before he was injured. Most of Sweeds average for 2007 was put up against Arkansas St. for 18.6 and Rice for 27.8. He only had 6.5 avg against TCU and 9.0 against UCF(one reception)


Early's average also includes the games where he came back and played with a nagging groin injury.

Even then Early's first two games back:

7 for 93 yards 13.3 avg 1 TD against Auburn
5 for 67 yards 13.4 avg 2 TDs against Alabama one of which was a game tying TD on 4th and 4 late in the 4th Qtr.

They both have similar numbers throughout their careers both get hurt this year only Early comes back and plays even breaks 3 tackles on a touchdown against Ohio St.'s #1 Defense yet his stock drops while Sweeds rises?

Only difference I can see is that Sweed is taller. But I'll bet Early is stronger than Sweed.

[Macarthur]

I too think Sweed is very overrated.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Yes but Sweed put up his 2007 average before he was injured. Early's average also includes the games where he came back and played with a nagging groin injury.


Sweed was injured in the spring, he was never 100%

[constant cough]

Sweed was injured in the spring, he was never 100%

Ok but even if you look at Early's stats in the two games before injury:

9 for 78 yards 8.1 avg 1 TD against State
6 for 75 yards 12.5 avg 1 TD against VT

Ok so he had one game before his injury where he averaged less than 10. But he wasn't being asked to win the games all by himself LSU has other receivers/tight end on the team who are also NFL talents.

His stats before injury seem pretty respectable to me. Yet for some reason people want to drop his stock while Sweed's rises.

I'm not trying to knock Sweed he seems like a good receiver it's just if Early's stock has dropped then Sweeds should as well.

[Gchu83]

As a Longhorn who has seen every game Sweed has played, I will admit that Sweed is a bit overrated. He tends to disappear in games but will show up big in others. With that said, I think Sweed would be a solid pick late in the 1st (where he's projected to go). He has great size to go with good athletic ability, he may not have 4.4 speed but he is plenty fast for his size and he has shown that he can go up and get the ball almost over any defender.

The one thing I'll give Sweed is that his stats don't tell the whole story IMO. We were a running team when VY was here, VY's passing made major strides while he was here but between Benson/VY/Charles, we weren't a dominating passing team. When Colt got here (a more traditional QB), you definitely saw what Sweed is capable of...17ypc 12 TDs. The guy is a HUGE target in the redzone and even though he doesn't have blazing speed, he is as big as a deep threat than any other person in the draft.

[BrabbitMcRabbit]

I am very surprised to see how high Scott has Sweed. Sweed is not impressive IMO. He has good hands, but can't run and isn't agile. I see him as the wide receiver version of Leonard Pope.

I definitely like Kelly, Bowman, Jackson, Arrington, and some of the other guys before Sweed. Kelly and Bowman have the same type of size and skills, and they're much more explosive and agile running routes and after the catch.

[Travis 24]

If Limas Sweed played for Minnesota, he'd be projected as a 5th-6th round pick.

[Sniper]

If Limas Sweed played for Minnesota, he'd be projected as a 5th-6th round pick.

And people wonder why your rep sucks......

[Travis 24]

And people wonder why your rep sucks......

I don't care about my rep...I'm rarely ever wrong, I just tell the truth. Limas Sweed sucks, tell me the difference between him and Rasheed Rancher:


I believe this site had John Beck as the 9th or 10th rated QB around this time last year...I think I heard "2nd day at best" quite a few times, while I had him as a late first-early 2nd rounder since about september of 2006. Shows how much I know...I guess : /

[Sniper]

I don't care about my rep...I'm rarely ever wrong, I just tell the truth. Limas Sweed sucks, tell me the difference between him and Rasheed Rancher:


I believe this site had John Beck as the 9th or 10th rated QB around this time last year...I think I heard "2nd day at best" quite a few times, while I had him as a late first-early 2nd rounder since about september of 2006. Shows how much I know...I guess : /

You're rarely ever wrong? Wow don't allow facts to get in your way. Congrats on pegging John Beck correctly. One thing clearly shows you're always right.

[Travis 24]

What facts?

I watch players, then make judgments. I can tell by reading some reports of players I've seen, that people make things up. I think he said Beck has a "Average arm strength" or something...Beck then went to the combine and had the 2nd strongest arm of all the QB's...I watched Texas, and I can tell Sweed is no good...not really hard to see.

[etk]

If Limas Sweed played for Minnesota, he'd be projected as a 5th-6th round pick.

I think this is more accurate:

If Limas Sweed played for Nebraska, he'd be projected as a mid-rounder.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/mauricepurify.html
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/justinharper.html
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[Gchu83]

I don't care about my rep...I'm rarely ever wrong, I just tell the truth. Limas Sweed sucks, tell me the difference between him and Rasheed Rancher:


I believe this site had John Beck as the 9th or 10th rated QB around this time last year...I think I heard "2nd day at best" quite a few times, while I had him as a late first-early 2nd rounder since about september of 2006. Shows how much I know...I guess : /

Yay!! You were right on John Beck!! You should apply to be a scout for a NFL team, I mean, you're rarely ever wrong right?

[LonghornsLegend]

Actually, I think Sweed is underrated on these boards because this would of been his biggest year in terms of production and he never got a chance to go at it fully healthy

He's really not as slow as Dwayne Jarrett, but ill just wait until the combines so he can get timed, but people are making him out to be a bust before he even does anything...Scott has him pretty high ill admit, but he has done his homework on players and most those guys he has seen play more then once, I dont think he would have him as the first wr off the board if he thought there was no chance he would become a good nfl wr

[etk]

Actually, I think Sweed is underrated on these boards because this would of been his biggest year in terms of production and he never got a chance to go at it fully healthy


So we should reward him for getting injured? That makes absolutely no freakin' sense.

[LonghornsLegend]

So we should reward him for getting injured? That makes absolutely no freakin' sense.

no but what im saying is his being injured and not playing has him underrated...As was Antonio Cromartie going into the draft, because he didnt have a huge year going into the draft...Where did I saw reward him for getting injured? I just said had he played alot of people would be thinking alot higher of him

[etk]

Of course he would be ranked higher if he played and didn't get injured. However, no team is gonna say to themselves "oh he would've done this if he didn't get injured". He will be evaluated based on his Junior season film and workouts. It's a tough break to get injured but I can't see where you get the idea that it makes him underrated.

[OzTitan]

I think he just means if Sweed didn't get hurt and had the season he very likely would have had then general perception of him would be better. Not sure it is making a huge difference myself as most negative remarks seem to be relating to his fundamental style/type of WR, but it's probably true to an extent - if he came out and had even just a slightly better senior year than his junior year, he'd probably have a more favorable stance amongst average fans, and I think it was very likely he would have barring the somewhat freak injury.

[bryanGENE]

During his career I mostly saw him do a few routes, alot of fade routes and he did have seperation to run them in college, but even im not sold he can do it in the pros...His best case scenario is a poor mans Roy Williams, his acceleration isnt as good as Roy's, and he doesnt run as well after the catch with the ball in his hands either...

He could be a playmaker in the league regardless, some people act as if your not drafted in the first 2 rounds you wont amount to anything...I think he runs a mid 4.5, and he has a shot to go late 2nd rd off just stats or where he went to school vs a guy from a smaller conference...I wouldnt draft him to be my #1 wr though, but I still think he will make a solid nfl wr just nothing special

Also wouldnt be surprised if tennessee took him before he should come off the board, ive noticed a trend in players they are bringing in via the draft of FA, I think its a very high possibility that the Titans take him or Jermichael Finley in the draft

Titans are just picking up the Longhorn Rose Bowl Championship team.

At this point, I would have Sweed somewhere in the second round. He's still a big physical receiver with potential.

[BroadwayJoe10]

After a pretty rough senior bowl week and reinjuring his wrist, I have just been waiting for him to make it official that he won't be attentind the combine. Does anyone know when texas' pro days are??

"Texas WR Limas Sweed (wrist) isn't expected to take part in February's NFL Scouting Combine.
Sweed aggravated the injury for a second time during Senior Bowl week practices. After an unproductive senior year, this can only hurt his draft stock."

[Babylon]

After a pretty rough senior bowl week and reinjuring his wrist, I have just been waiting for him to make it official that he won't be attentind the combine. Does anyone know when texas' pro days are??

"Texas WR Limas Sweed (wrist) isn't expected to take part in February's NFL Scouting Combine.
Sweed aggravated the injury for a second time during Senior Bowl week practices. After an unproductive senior year, this can only hurt his draft stock."


I dont think it would be a good idea to blow off the combine, he obviously doesnt have to lift but if he can run a good time it would help him out. Anyone that has him in round 1 right now is either a diehard Texas fan or is out of touch with reality.

[BroadwayJoe10]

I dont think it would be a good idea to blow off the combine, he obviously doesnt have to lift but if he can run a good time it would help him out. Anyone that has him in round 1 right now is either a diehard Texas fan or is out of touch with reality.

I agree, because I felt a lot of the knocks on him weren't his hands, but how he would time out in the 40. Depending on the severity of the reinjury, I have a feeling he will forego the combine and just bring it hard on his proday.

[iloxygenil]

I just want to know how far this injury drops him now...or if it does at all...obviously its a risk...but how early will someone take him?

[LonghornsLegend]

He should still go in the 2nd, if he last till the 3rd thats incredible value...his injury is limiting him so much on what he can do, he should of sat out the senior bowl and attempted for the combines, doctors told him not to do the senior bowl anyway...

Once again ill say teams fall in love with the 40 too much, because obviously its not helping Matt Jones cause that he runs a 4.3 as big as he is, last I checked he was still about to be cut...Sweed is going to be a good pro, he's just not a 1st rd guy right now

[Gchu83]

I dont think it would be a good idea to blow off the combine, he obviously doesnt have to lift but if he can run a good time it would help him out. Anyone that has him in round 1 right now is either a diehard Texas fan or is out of touch with reality.

Pretty much every mock I've seen has Sweed going in the 1st.

[Babylon]

Pretty much every mock I've seen has Sweed going in the 1st.

They all had Woodson going in the 1st and his stock is going down. In a year where the top half dozen or so receivers are all bunched together i dont think you reward a guy for being injured most of the season and then measuring at 6-4 210 when everyone thought he was 6-5 and 220. If he runs better than expeceted he might get in but speed never was one of his strong suits, just my take.

[darnik44two]

Limas Sweed is a lot like Plaxico Burress if you ask me. He was hurt all year so a lot of people have written him off. Easily a top 60 pick.

[DraftKidWonder]

Not like he's the next Roy Williams. One good forty and I'm sure you'd agree.

[Kid_Ego]

Sweed seems to be more of a long strider doucet offers electricty but your comparisons here are kinda of senseless they play in two diffrent types of offense. This is like comparing Harrison to Moss. they are used so diffrently i dont see how you can compare the two.

[Sniper]

Sweed seems to be more of a long strider doucet offers electricty but your comparisons here are kinda of senseless they play in two diffrent types of offense. This is like comparing Harrison to Moss. they are used so diffrently i dont see how you can compare the two.

9.2 ypc is electricity nowadays?

[Kid_Ego]

Have you ever watched the guy play? he has explosive quickness reguardless of his 9.2 yds per catch. Again those stats say as much about the passes being throw to him as they do about his ability